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Uncensored CMO
Dan Ariely: the hidden forces that shape your customers' decisions
In this episode, we deep dive into the irrational world of customer behaviour with legendary behavioural economist Dan Ariely. Dan reveals why we’re all predictably wrong, how tiny invisible cues can radically change price perception, and why effort makes things feel more valuable. We also unpack the real reason people fall for misinformation, how to rebuild trust in broken industries like insurance, and why letting customers choose their own price might just be your smartest move. If you want to understand what truly drives decisions — and how to use that insight to become a better marketer — this one’s unmiss...
2025-04-16
1h 19
Uncensored CMO
Prof G on AI eating itself, social media rage & the end of the CMO
Scott Galloway (Prof G) has returned to the Uncensored CMO podcast for a second time, in a special live episode. Galloway is Professor of Marketing at NYU Stern School of Business and host of the Prof G and Pivot podcasts. He joins Jon in a special live episode in London and lives up to his billing as the most uncensored guest of all time. Scott takes big swings at the advertising industry throughout the episode - despite the audience of CMOs - claiming that the days of the CMO are numbered. He continues with his damning commentary on why...
2025-04-02
57 min
Uncensored CMO
AI agents - personalisation, productivity & performance with Adobe, ServiceNow and IBM
Live from Adobe Summit in Las Vegas, in this bonus triple header, Jon speaks with Colin Fleming (ServiceNow), Stacy Martinet (Adobe) and Billy Seabrook (IBM) about the hot topic in marketing today, AI, and what a new wave of agentic AI technology means for marketers.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:51 - Part 1: Colin Fleming01:51 - The things people don’t understand about B2B marketing03:32 - How AI is having an impact on marketing05:29 - ServiceNow’s relationship with Adobe06:21 - Advice to marketers to stay on cutting edge of AI08:47 - Pa...
2025-03-31
35 min
Uncensored CMO
Oreo’s playful positioning, bold innovation and brand partnerships - Eugenia Zalis
Today Jon talks with Eugenia Zalis, CMO for one of the most iconic sweet brands in the world, Oreo. We talk about their "stay playful" positioning, incredible brand collaborations (with the likes of Coca-Cola and Post Malone) and some of the interesting innovations the brand has worked on.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:46 - Eugenia’s marketing journey01:33 - What can we learn from the Unilever approach to marketing?02:27 - How Dove turned into the brand it is today05:42 - How Eugenia started with Oreo06:33 - The “stay playful” positioning09:49 - The best w...
2025-03-19
47 min
Uncensored CMO
Cadillac’s re-launch of an iconic car brand for a new era
Cadillac is an iconic American brand who are navigating the shift to electrification in the automotive industry and have partnered up with 72andSunny to launch their brand new campaign “Let’s Take the Cadillac. So today, Melissa Grady Dias, CMO of Cadillac, and Marianne Malina, President of 72andSunny join Jon to talk about working with a new agency and launching their first campaign together.Timestamps00:00 - Intro03:53 - Marianne’s background06:49 - How to manage a brand like Cadillac08:34 - How EV’s are changing the industry13:53 - How do you change y...
2025-03-12
45 min
Uncensored CMO
Rob Mayhew on the untapped creator opportunity in B2B, London vs New York and using social media as a brand
Rob Mayhew joins Jon for bonus episode, talking about his big move to New York City, becoming a full-time content creator and how brands can work with creators like him effectively.Timestamps00:00 - Intro01:39 - Why Rob moved to NYC04:20 - Rob’s new YouTube show05:47 - London vs New York for marketers08:00 - Rob’s approach to content in 202511:00 - Rob’s view on the future of the social platforms14:17 - How System1’s ad testing works17:27 - Rob’s funniest posts on LinkedIn18:46 - Rob’s process fo...
2025-03-10
32 min
Uncensored CMO
Samsung CMO on Tech Innovation, Flying Ostriches & Doing More with Less - Benjamin Braun
Today Jon sits down with Benjamin Braun, CMO at Samsung Europe, for a fascinating conversation that spans from innovative tech demos to Olympic marketing strategies. Benjamin shares insights on Samsung's role as a 40-year Olympic sponsor, demonstrates the latest AI capabilities in Samsung devices, and discusses how the company balances long-term brand building with short-term sales goals. The conversation takes a personal turn as Benjamin opens up about his experience with dyslexia and how neurodiversity can be a strength in business leadership. From product innovation to marketing effectiveness in the boardroom, this episode offers a glimpse into the mind...
2025-02-05
1h 12
Uncensored CMO
Mark Ritson on the fall of Nike, KitKat’s perfect positioning and whether Liquid Death is more than just water in a can
Mark Ritson is back on the podcast for a review of the most read stories this year. We debate if Liquid Death is more than just water in a can, why Nike’s focus on DTC was a mistake and what we can all learn from KitKat’s perfect positioning. Recorded in a pub in London, expect some uncensored opinions from everyone’s favourite marketing professor.00:00 - Start05:40 - Mark #5: Brand purpose doesn’t need a commercial excuse14:13 - Jon #5: Liquid death article21:15 - Mark #4: There's no such thing as performance branding25:47 - Jon #4...
2024-11-13
55 min
Uncensored CMO
Jon Evans Uncensored; what makes a great CMO and other lessons from 150 episodes with guest host Antonia Wade
In this episode, Antonia Wade, CMO of PwC, turns the tables and interviews our usual host, Jon Evans. From tax intern to marketing podcast host, we delve into Jon's journey through entrepreneurial endeavours at Britvic, through to being fired at Lucozade to finding a successful role in B2B at System1. We also discuss lessons Jon has learned from 150 podcast episodes with CMO's, agency creatives, founders and more.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:43 - Jon’s journey from tax to marketing10:18 - Deciding if you’re more suited to corporate or entrepreneurial life12:35 - Why Jon got fire...
2024-09-11
1h 01
Uncensored CMO
Brand of the year CMO on Innovation, TED talks and what B2B can learn from B2C - Rebecca Hirst
Rebecca Hirst is the Chief Marketing Officer of EY UK, a TEDx Speaker and a winner of Campaign's 40 over 40. Before joining EY and making the switch to B2B, Rebecca was Marketing Director at Samsung and working on brands including Coca-Cola, Schweppes, Kellogg’s, Kleenex, Microsoft, IBM, United Airlines, Lufthansa and Star Alliance.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:54 - Winning Campaign’s 40 over 4004:33 - Being a Ted Talk speaker08:01 - Rebecca’s time at Samsung13:08 - Why Jon loves being a challenger brand17:08 - Working at Coca Cola vs Pepsi23:00 - How Re...
2024-08-21
56 min
Uncensored CMO
The Marketoonist on why humour is good for business - Tom Fishburne
In this episode I speak with Tom Fishburne, better known as the Marketoonist. Tom likes to poke fun at our industry through his entertaining cartoons saying what we're all thinking. We recently had him join as as our cartoonist in residence at Cannes Lions, where he shared his experience through a cartoon each day. We also discuss some of Tom's greatest cartoons and why humour is good for business.Timestamps00:00 - Start01:16 - How Tom Fishburne became a cartoonist05:00 - Why is humour so important in the workplace06:29 - Going full time as the Marketoonist12:42...
2024-07-03
1h 00
Uncensored CMO
How e.l.f built a billion dollar beauty brand - Kory Marchisotto
Kory Marchisotto is the Chief Marketing Officer of e.l.f Beauty, a beauty company that surpassed over $1b in annual sales. They're digital first brand builders, taking the internet by storm and connecting closely with their customers. In this episode we talk about why Kory invests heavily in their brand, how every employee is a shareholder and why they collaborated with Liquid Death.Timestamps:00:00 - Intro01:15 - Kory’s background06:11 - Founding story of e.l.f08:39 - How do e.l.f make their products so affordable11:30 - Why e...
2024-06-26
46 min
Uncensored CMO
How Gymshark built a unicorn with influencers - Noel Mack
We're again talking about one of my favourite topics; challenger brands. In this episode we've got one of the most successful challenger brands in the world, Gymshark. They're one of the original influencer and social media creative brands, growing to be Britain's fastest growing Unicorn. I'm joined by their Chief Brand Officer, Noel Mack, to give me the inside scoop on exactly how they did it.Timestamps00:00 - Intro02:29 - Gymshark Origins04:49 - How Noel Mack bet Ben Francis07:59 - What is a Chief Brand Officer?09:28 - How Gymshark do influencer...
2024-06-19
50 min
Uncensored CMO
B2B brand building in the era of AI with Jon Lombardo and Peter Weinberg
Listeners of have shown me time and again that you want more B2B content, so in this episode I'm joined again by the Les and Peter of B2B, Jon Lombardo and Peter Weinberg (previously of the LinkedIn B2B Institute). We discuss why B2B marketing departments need to put their focus on building brands rather than talking about product features, why distinctive assets continue to be an essential part of any brand, and we find out what the B2B boys will be doing now they've left LinkedIn.Find out more about Jon & Peter's...
2024-06-12
50 min
Never Mind The Adverts
IRN-BRU and Paddy Power new Euro's ads, podcast vs performance marketing and Nicola Wardell special appearance
Orlando Wood and Jon Evans are back discussing the most important news in advertising this week. From the best ads for the upcoming Euro 2024 tournament to Rory Sutherland suggesting podcasting might be more effective than performance marketing...Timestamps00:00 - Start00:28 - Grand fromage clarification02:05 - The news07:20 - Ad of the week - Irn Bru and Paddy Power11:25 - Drinks trolley12:27 - Break from the commercials14:48 - Phone a friend - Nicola Wardell
2024-06-10
20 min
Uncensored CMO
Cannes Lions CEO on the power of creativity, the creator economy and making connections - Simon Cook
Every year, the advertising industry descend upon the south of France to meet up in Cannes over a glass of rosé to celebrate the power of creativity. So I thought it was about time that I caught up with the CEO of Lions, Simon Cook, to discuss why creativity matters.The conversation ranges from how can you make the case for creativity in business while budgets are strained, to what you can expect this year from Cannes Lions.Timestamps00:00 - Start01:37 - Origins of Cannes Lions03:38 - The scale of Cannes Lions05:19 - Creative m...
2024-06-05
40 min
Uncensored CMO
How Cadbury turned "Glass and a Half in Everyone" into one of the most effective campaign ideas in the world
In this episode, we talk about one of my all time favourite brands, Cadbury. They're also one of the best performers on the System1 database, consistently creating five star work. To find out more about the work I'm joined by David Boscawen from VCCP, also known as Bosco, and Gui Ferreira who's recently joined Cadbury, bringing an outside perspective on what it means to take over an iconic brand with 200 years of heritage.Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:46 Gui's background03:27 David's background04:20 How VCCP and Cadbury started working together in 201714:24 David and Gui's favourite Cadbury ads21:08 Compound creativity and...
2024-05-29
54 min
Uncensored CMO
From Hamlet to Haribo: the serious case for humour - Trevor Robinson
In this episode, we're talking about a very, very serious topic. Humour. It turns out humour is not just funny, but it's good for business. In fact, humour in advertising is one of the most effective things you can do to make people remember you and buy your products.I'm catching up with someone who knows all about humour. Trevor Robinson was the creative behind some of the most iconic and funniest ads of all time, including Tango from the 1990s. And I caught up with Trevor to find out more about what makes advertising funny, how...
2024-05-22
50 min
Never Mind The Adverts
Never Mind The Adverts Trailer
Welcome to Nevermind the Adverts where we share our news and views each week on what makes advertising work and what's made us laugh. Each week, Jon Evans and Orlando Wood will be dissecting the latest ads, the biggest breaking news and the most controversial opinions about advertising.
2024-05-20
00 min
Uncensored CMO
How Monzo used emotional advertising, a hot coral card & customer obsession to become Britain's best bank - AJ Coyne
Monzo Bank has fast become Britain's favourite bank, offering a customer focused online banking approach that consumers were craving. When Monzo started in 2015 they managed to challenge the incumbent banks with their distinctive "hot coral" card and referral scheme. 9 years later they are an established brand in the category and AJ Coyne has been tasked with creating emotional advertising to help continue to grow their market share.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:44 - AJ’s marketing background02:49 - What can clients learn from agencies07:40 - AJ’s time at Klarna09:48 - Taking the CMO job at Monzo10:49 - The...
2024-05-15
42 min
Uncensored CMO
Snapchat CMO on fixing social media, being creative leader of the decade and lessons from Dan Wieden - Colleen DeCourcy
Colleen DeCourcy is the Chief Creative Officer at Snap, having previously spent over a decade at Wieden+Kennedy as co-president and Chief Creative Officer, working on some of the largest brand accounts in the world. In this episode we talk about Colleen's time at W+K, some of her favourite quotes from Dan Wieden and how she's now tackling brand at Snapchat.Timestamps00:00 - Intro01:22 - Colleen DeCourcy background03:30 - Winning creative leader of the decade06:30 - Colleen’s tenure at Wieden+Kennedy13:50 - The TIME Interview18:39 - From retirement to jo...
2024-05-08
42 min
Uncensored CMO
Scott Galloway on the end of the brand era, monetising rage and how to create wealth
Scott Galloway is Professor of Marketing at NYU Stern School of Business and host of the Prof G and Pivot podcasts. In this episode Prof G lives up to the billing as the most uncensored guest on the podcast ever. We cover lots of ground, including his secret to success with Prof G media, what the #1 skill for all marketers should be, why brand is dead and how to build wealth. We recorded this episode as Scott releases his new book The Algebra of Wealth: A Simple Formula For Success, buy on Amazon UK, or US.Links
2024-05-01
1h 11
Uncensored CMO
From bust to Boom! How Red Bull, ITV and Lloyds supercharge their people for serious growth - Scott Morrison
Today we're talking about more Boom! and less bust with Scott Morrison, the inspirational, energizing coach that teaches marketing teams how to be more successful, how to turn around business, how to win pitches and more.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:47 - Where did the name Boom come from01:31 - Scott’s background at Saatchi&Saatchi04:57 - What is Nike’s secret sauce09:48 - Scott’s career failures13:27 - Working on the Diesel brand17:37 - How to go from bust to Boom!40:11 - How to pitch to CMOs
2024-04-24
49 min
Uncensored CMO
A CMO Masterclass - how John Lewis redefined emotional advertising - Craig Inglis
Today we're talking about what makes a great CMO. One of the CMOs that I've admired throughout his career is Craig Inglis, who famously was a CMO for John Lewis for many years, making those ads that you saw at Christmas and really defining the genre of Christmas advertising.Timestamps00:00:00 - Intro00:00:50 - Craig’s marketing background00:02:25 - Craig’s biggest marketing failures00:09:34 - How to have a long tenure as a CMO00:13:24 - How to be a great CMO00:23:53 - Guessing the most emotional John Lewis ads00:28:50 - How to move from rational to emotional stra...
2024-04-17
1h 02
Uncensored CMO
Should’ve gone to Specsavers, how a simple brand idea created a winning vision for the company - Peter Wright & Nicola Wardell
One of my favourite campaigns of all time is "Should've Gone to Specsavers" an idea that has completely transformed the Specsavers business. I speak to their CMO, Peter Wright and the MD of their in house creative team, Nicola Wardell, about how they've taken the idea and produced some of the best advertising on the System1 database.Watch the episode on YouTube.Timestamps:00:00 - Intro00:59 - How Peter and Nicola ended up on Guernsey03:02 - The Specsavers story04:37 - The secret to Specsavers’ success09:04 - Family owned vs corporate business10:38 - How the “should’ve gon...
2024-04-10
57 min
Uncensored CMO
How Guinness became Britain's favourite pint - Stephen O'Kelly, Global Brand Director
How does someone create advertising for a brand that is over 150 years old? That is exactly what Stephen O'Kelly has been tasked with as Global Brand Director at Guinness, one of the most iconic brands in the world. Recorded from the Connoisseur bar at the Guinness Storehouse in Dublin, this episode of Uncensored CMO is special. Not just because of how much history is involved in the brand, but the fact that Stephen is a fourth generation employee, carrying on the legacy of his family.
2024-04-03
48 min
Uncensored CMO
Copy that works, a copywriting masterclass with Vikki Ross
Vikki Ross is a copywriting expert. Having worked for some major brand in the past two decades, she knows a thing or two about branding and tone of voice. This episode is a copywriting masterclass. We start by delving into the principles of great copy, before looking at it in action with our very own Copy Safari (where we go out into the world to find real ads), and then round off by asking the big question; is AI going to replace copywriters?LinksEats, Shoots and Leaves bookElements of F*cking Style bookBland BookVikki's TwitterVikki's...
2024-03-27
1h 06
Uncensored CMO
Ritson on Advertising Effectiveness with special guest Guilherme Ferreira VP Global Marketing Cadbury
We're doing things a little bit differently this week. I've just recorded a webinar with Mark Ritson on advertising effectiveness with a very special guest, the VP for global marketing, Gui Ferreira from Mondelez. They are responsible for some of the epic Cadbury work that has scored right at the top of the System1 charts. We discussed what makes their advertising so good, what are the principles of advertising effectiveness and what can we learn?Watch the ads referenced in this podcast:Cadbury GarageOreo TwistTimestamps:00:00 Intro03:23 Why creativity matters04:31 Investing in creativity08:00 Being...
2024-03-20
48 min
Uncensored CMO
How Liquid Death founder, Mike Cessario, created a billion dollar water brand
Today I'm joined by Mike Cessario, the founder and CEO of Liquid Death, a water brand worth $1.4b. With the use of creative brand marketing and punk aesthetic, Mike was able to break into the biggest beverage category in the US and disrupt market dominated by huge brands such as Coke and Pepsi. This is a truly inspirational story on how you can defy the odds, break convention, disrupt a category and do it all on a shoestring budget. If you're a challenger brand, this is a must listen.Timestamps00:00:00 - Intro00:01:10 - Mike’s ba...
2024-03-13
1h 04
Uncensored CMO
Creativity driven performance, CPG lessons for SaaS and the power of distinctive assets - Michelle Taite, Mailchimp
As Chief Marketing Officer, Michelle Taite leads Intuit Mailchimp’s Marketing teams and is responsible for the business’ end-to-end brand, acquisition, performance, product, and lifecycle marketing activities globally in addition to Mailchimp's in-house creative agency Wink. Joining just after Mailchimp's $12b acquisition, Michelle had the task of integrating their marketing into the wider Intuit team.Intro00:00 - Intro00:48 - Starting out desigining sneakers02:39 - From New Balance to Unilever04:13 - Doing purpose work for Dove05:15 - Michelle’s favourite work at Unilever06:27 - From CPG to SaaS09:29 - What is Mai...
2024-03-06
44 min
Uncensored CMO
Amazon’s Chief Creative Officer on the power of emotional advertising, distinctive brand assets and delivering at speed
Jo Shoesmith is the Global Chief Creative Officer at Amazon. She leads lead brand creative, design, production, social, and brand identity functions, as well as agency partnerships, in the largest fixed marketing portfolio investment at Amazon. 00:00 - Intro01:04 - From rural Australia to Los Angeles01:58 - From agency to client side04:44 - That famous Jeff Bezos marketing quote05:50 - What does the Chief Creative Officer at Amazon do07:41 - Creating emotional, brand building advertising09:22 - Using the brand distintive assets10:33 - Creating inclusive advertising13:05 - Advice for writing a r...
2024-02-28
37 min
Uncensored CMO
How a new brand character challenged Whisky conventions to help The Woodsman double market share
Today I'm speaking with Whyte and Mackay Marketing Director Janice McIntosh and Mr President (their agency) CCO Jon Gledstone about the launch of their new campaign for The Woodsman brand. The "Well Earned" campaign score a whopping 4.8 stars on the System1 test and saw the launch of a brand character, Barry the Beaver, in a move that defies convention in the traditional Whisky category. From internal battles to hurdles presented by the regulators, both Whyte and Mackay and Mr President had to overcome some barriers to bring this campaign to life.Timestamps00:00 - Intro01:01...
2024-02-21
38 min
Uncensored CMO
Rising from the ashes: the inspirational story of overcoming tragedy with Bozoma Saint John (former Netflix CMO)
Bozoma Saint John is a Hall of Fame Inducted Marketing Executive, Entrepreneur and Author of her memoir, The Urgent Life. Her career has included roles as the Global CMO of Netflix, CMO of Endeavor, CBO of Uber, Head of Marketing of Apple Music & iTunes and Head of Music and Entertainment Marketing at PepsiCo.Follow BozInstagramLinkedInTwitter/XHer book - This Urgent LifeFollow JonJon's LinkedInJon's TwitterWatch the Uncensored CMO on YouTubeTimestamps00:00 - Start01:34 - Why Boz wrote such an emotional book05:02 - The reception to the book
2024-02-14
54 min
Uncensored CMO
The secrets to Super Bowl success with Michelob ULTRA's Ricardo Marques
Today we’re diving deep into the high-stakes world of Super Bowl advertising with a very special guest—Ricardo Marques, the VP of Marketing for Michelob ULTRA. Ricardo, a veteran with 19 years at AB Inbev and the marketing maestro behind Michelob ULTRA's growth. He is here to share his playbook on how to score big during the most anticipated advertising event on American television.In this episode we get an exclusive look at how Michelob ULTRA prepares for the Super Bowl. Ricardo breaks down the importance of the Super Bowl as a platform, not just...
2024-02-07
49 min
Uncensored CMO
The flamingo effect: how Very made their retail brand sparkle - Jessica Myers Very CMO
Today we're joined by Jessica Myers, CMO of The Very Group. Previously Jess was CMO at Metro Bank and has since made the transition to the highly competitive retail market. At Very, she has overseen the launch of a brand new fluent device; the pink flamingoes. The campaign featuring the new characters scored a whopping 5.7 stars on the System1 scoring platform, Test Your Ad, amongst the very best ads made this year.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:52 - Jess’ background06:11 - Marketing academy fellowship07:13 - From big brand to challenger brand10:46 - The mo...
2024-01-31
49 min
Uncensored CMO
Creating the Metaverse, lessons from Google Glass and the Whitehouse - Dave Kaufman, Meta
Dave Kaufman is responsible for the marketing for one of the biggest tech bets of all time; the Metaverse. As Director of Global Marketing for VR and the Metaverse for Meta (formerly Facebook), it's fair to say Dave has a pretty sizeable task on his hands. He's no stranger to large marketing bets, having been on the marketing team for Google Glass, which ultimately failed. But sandwiched in-between working for Google and Meta, Dave worked for Obama's Whitehouse for the United States Digital Service.In this episode we discuss if the US is behind the UK in...
2024-01-24
59 min
Uncensored CMO
A B2B marketing masterclass with PwC's Global CMO, Antonia Wade
Today I'm joined by Antonia Wade, Global CMO at PwC and Author of The B2B Buyer Journey. This episode is a true B2B masterclass. We break down the importance of brand, reputation and relationships vs what people traditionally think is important in B2B. We also break down each stage of the marketing funnel to find out how best to reach them at every point in the buyer journey.LinksAntonia's LinkedInAntonia's BookJon's LinkedInJon's TwitterWatch the Uncensored CMO on YouTubeTimestamps00:00:00 - Intro00:01:10 - Antonia’s background00:06:01 - How does B2B an...
2024-01-17
1h 05
Uncensored CMO
Les & Sarah’s big review of the year
One of the most popular episodes of all time was my first with Sarah Carter and Les Binet, so I'm bringing them back to do a review of 2023. We talk about what makes Les cry and if AI is going to take over our jobs.LinksJon's LinkedInJon's TwitterWatch the Uncensored CMO on YouTubeTimestamps00:00:00 - Intro00:01:05 - Les’ favourite ads of 202300:04:45 - Sarah’s favourite Christmas ads00:07:15 - Wear out00:12:30 - Why familiarity breeds contentment00:17:42 - Have we rediscovered homour in 2023?00:19:47 - The role of purpose in advertising00:29:17 - Diversity and representation00:34:53 - Kevi...
2024-01-10
1h 25
Uncensored CMO
How confused.com challenged the meerkats on smaller budgets - Sam Day
Now in this episode, we're talking about one of the most competitive markets in the world - insurance comparison. Anyone who's followed this market will know just how intense it is. And how do you build a brand when you don't have a product yourself, but you're selling someone else's product? Well, it's one of those situations where marketing is all important and advertising can make all the difference to your success.I'm catching up with Sam Day, who's been the CMO of confused.com, for the past 6 years, who successfully challenged this market and taken it...
2024-01-03
52 min
Uncensored CMO
Reloaded: How to be a successful challenger - Adam Morgan (2020)
Today I'm revisiting episode 3, with Adam Morgan, founder of eatbigfish and author of Eating The Big Fish, The Pirate Inside and A Beautiful Constraint to find out what it takes to become a successful challenger. Adam shares his tips for creating a challenger brand, transforming your culture and the power of constraints to driving innovation.In this episode:Why being No.2 is betterHow he turned the anger of his project being shelved into a career-defining opportunityBeing turned down by Phil Knight and where the idea of a Challenger brand came fromThe importance of over-commitment and...
2023-12-27
56 min
Uncensored CMO
Top 10 marketing and behavioural science insights with Nudge host, Phill Agnew
Today I'm joined by Phill Agnew, senior product marketer at Buffer and host of Nudge, the only podcast dedicated to consumer psychology, and the other podcast that regularly hits the top spot of the UK marketing charts. In this episode we share 5 behavioural science "nudges" and 5 marketing lessons that we've taken from our respective podcasts and careers.LinksNudge podcastJon's LinkedInJon's TwitterPhill's LinkedInPhill's TwitterTimestamps00:00 - Intro01:19 - How did Phill get into podcasting04:03 - Bonus Nudge - The Halo Effect06:29 - Nudge 5 - The Labour Illusion09:40 - Marketing...
2023-12-18
1h 02
Uncensored CMO
How Just Eat used celebrities and jingles to help them become market leader - Susan O'Brien
Today I'm joined by Susan O'Brien, who is the VP Brand at Just Eat Takeaway. Just Eat are famous for their ads with celebs such as Snoop Dogg and Katy Perry, but are even more well known for their catchy jingle "Did somebody say...?". In this episode we break down Susan's career and how to make such an effective campaign.Timestamps00:00 - Start01:16 - How Susan got into marketing03:43 - Freelancing07:30 - The secret to longevity as a marketer09:44 - The realities of being a CMO14:25 - The CMO’s view on Cannes16:44 - The “Did Some...
2023-12-13
43 min
Uncensored CMO
No GUT no glory; from startup to Cannes Lions agency of the year in 5 years - Anselmo Ramos
Anselmo Ramos is the co-founder and Creative Chairman of GUT, a global independent creative agency with offices worldwide. He, along with his co-founder Gaston Bigio, opened GUT in 2018 with the goal of being the go-to agency for the world’s biggest brands, including Popeyes, Philadelphia Cream Cheese and Tim Hortons, among others, who are looking to do brave work and long-term bold brand building. Prior to co-founding GUT, Anselmo was the co-founder of award-winning global creative agency DAVID, and he was also previously the Chief Creative Officer of Ogilvy Brazil.Timestamps00:00:00 - Start00:01:04 - Wh...
2023-12-06
1h 07
Uncensored CMO
Creativity, Christmas and a Cardiac Crisis - Vicki Maguire, Havas
Vicki Maguire is the Chief Creative Officer at Havas London, responsible for some of the best ads of all time. Notably Asda's Elf ad in 2022 which is the happiest ad we've ever seen at System1, and the British Heart Foundation campaign with Vinnie Jones that literally saved lives.Timestamps00:00 - Start02:41 - Vicki’s background07:32 - How Vicki got into advertising11:53 - British Heart Foundation and Vinnie Jones20:30 - The Asda Elf Ad with Will Ferrell35:39 - Taika Waititi and Michael Buble campaign46:13 - Cannes Lions judging
2023-11-29
52 min
Uncensored CMO
How Airbnb bounced back from losing 80% of their business with long term brand building - Nancy King
Nancy King is the VP of Marketing at Airbnb. She leads Airbnb's global brand marketing team, performance marketing, marcom and social media teams. Prior to Airbnb, Nancy 20 years working across a mix of agencies, start-ups and as a founder of a strategy consultancy.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:48 - Nancy’s background as a creative05:16 - What can people learn from both agency and client side experience07:08 - Origins of Airbnb08:42 - The phases of Airbnb09:54 - Losing 80% of the business overnight17:47 - Deciding to re-invest in advertising21:23 - The challenges of not owning your product25:03 - The be...
2023-11-22
44 min
Uncensored CMO
The divided brain, attention and how we see the world - Dr Iain McGilchrist
Dr Iain McGilchrist is a psychiatrist, writer, and former Oxford literary scholar. McGilchrist came to prominence after the publication of his book The Master and His Emissary, subtitled The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World. His work formed the basis of Orlando Wood's books on advertising, Lemon and Look Out.Timestamps00:00 - Intro01:09 - Iain McGilchrist background06:05 - Hasn’t the myth of the right and left brain been debunked12:48 - The changes in society based on right brained dominance16:36 - Are we seeing a left to left br...
2023-11-15
48 min
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The Mac is back: how Wieden+Kennedy gave McDonald's its swagger
In this episode I'm joined by Tass Tsitsopoulos, Strategy Director, and Brandon Pracht, Managing Director for the McDonald's global advertising team at Wieden+Kennedy. I catch up with them to find out how they brought McDonald's swagger back with some of their most memorable and effective work in recent years, including the "Famous Orders" and "As Featured In" campaigns.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:56 - The difference between UK and US agencies03:15 - How did Brandon get into advertising04:52 - What makes the culture special08:07 - How W+K won the McDonald’s ac...
2023-11-08
47 min
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How NBCU harnesses the power of entertainment; iconic shows, reality TV and the Olympics - Josh Feldman
Josh Feldman serves as Global Chief Marketing Officer, NBCUniversal Advertising and Partnerships. Feldman is responsible for driving how the NBCUniversal’s Advertising and Partnerships division shows up in the marketplace, leading creative executions that span Upfronts and industry-first events. He oversees the entire Marketing and Content Partnerships group, comprising the division’s Commerce, Content and Talent Partnerships, Creative, Marketing, Strategic Initiatives, and Trade Marketing teams. This group operates the division’s full scale creative agency; leads NBCU’s development of an innovative suite of commerce solutions, such as One Platform Commerce; and furthers the company’s...
2023-11-01
33 min
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How Salesforce built the world's most successful B2B brand - Colin Fleming
One thing we don't talk enough about on the Uncensored CMO is B2B. Specifically, B2B companies that are investing in their brand. One such company is Salesforce, who are a true force in the B2B tech world. I caught up with their EVP of Brand Marketing, Colin Fleming, a former Red Bull Racing driver, who gave us an insight into why their brand marketing has been so effective. From Super Bowl ads and partnering with Matthew McConaughey, to building recognisable brand characters and even creating their own huge event, Dreamforce.Links:Follow ColinFollow...
2023-10-25
43 min
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The state of D2C and nailing your personal brand; advice from serial entrepreneur Tash Courtenay-Smith
Tash Courtenay Smith is a serial entrepreneur, renowned digital marketing expert, and best-selling author. Starting out as a journalist for the Daily Mail, Tash went on to found Talk to The Press, the Notting Hill Shopping Bag Company, Luminositie and now runs Bolt Digital. Tash also runs D2C Live, an event bringing together the best minds in Direct-To-Consumer. This conversation with a true entrepreneur covers topics such as the state of D2C, building a personal brand and inspiring the next wave of entrepreneurial talent with Biz Kids.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:45 - Starting...
2023-10-18
1h 02
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Mark Ritson on the best campaign of the year, Britain's favourite pint & why being different still matters
The Gary Vee of Australia is back in the Uncensored CMO hot seat. That is, of course, everyone's favourite marketing professor, Mark Ritson. In this episode we talk about the best campaigns of the year, Mark's most popular articles and why he thinks the US is lagging behind the rest of the world.Watch Cadbury GarageTimestamps:00:00 - Intro00:31 - What’s going on in marketing in 2023?02:19 - Why US marketers are off the pace05:10 - Ehrenberg Bass and academic literature06:53 - Mark’s contradicting viewpoints07:23 - The Gary Vee of A...
2023-10-11
1h 08
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How LEGO used play time to unlock creativity - Julia Goldin, Global CMO, LEGO
Julia Goldin is the Global Chief Marketing and Product Officer for the world's no. 1 toy brand, LEGO. Prior to joining the LEGO Gin 2014, Julia was Global CMO at Revlon. She also had a 13-year career with Coca-Cola, where she held several senior global and regional marketing roles, including Division Marketing Director of Northwest Europe and deputy Chief Marketing Officer of Japan.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:53 - Julia’s background01:57 - How did Julia become a CMO?04:46 - What’s the secret to being a successful CMO?07:51 - The secret to a long CMO tenu...
2023-10-04
43 min
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The myths of marketing live with Tom Goodwin
Tom Goodwin is back for our first ever live event in London. As uncensored as ever, we cover all things digital transformation to the biggest myths in marketing, this time with some thought provoking questions from a live studio audience.Timestamps:00:00 - Start01:06 - Tom’s background03:21 - Why Tom kept getting fired05:08 - What technology will change our lives?08:34 - We don’t care about consumers10:21 - What opportunites are there?12:45 - Things that aren’t changing16:52 - Jingles18:02 - Are brands dead?20:32 - Questions20:53 - The...
2023-09-27
55 min
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TikTok sensation Rob Mayhew on turning his passion into a business
For a very special edition of the podcast (episode 100!) I'm joined by a very special guest, Rob Mayhew, TikTok sensation and Creative Director at Gravity Road. Rob's witty commentary on the industry comes in the form of his hugely entertaining short-form videos, which often go viral on TikTok and on LinkedIn. Having found himself between jobs during COVID, Rob dug into his comedy roots and started posting up to 8 videos a day on TikTok which have grown in popularity exponentially over the past few years. He now finds himself striking some impressive brand partnerships who all want a slice...
2023-09-20
1h 19
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The business of creativity - Sir John Hegarty
Advertising legend Sir John Hegarty returns to the podcast to discuss why he created a course focused on the business of creativity. If you've listened to the podcast before you'll know how important I think creativity is to drive business results, and so when Sir John announced he was creating this course, I had to get him back on the podcast to discuss.Learn more about the course here.About Sir John HegartyHe was a founding partner of Saatchi and Saatchi in 1970. And then TBWA in 1973. He founded Bartle Bogle Hegarty in 1982 with...
2023-09-13
55 min
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The extraordinary cost of being dull - Peter Field and Adam Morgan
Marketing waste is one of the biggest issues facing our industry. So when marketing legends Peter Field and Adam Morgan reached out to me to talk about their new work on the impact of dull advertising on brands, I immediately got them on the podcast.In this fascinating episode we discuss why you really can’t afford to bore your audience with your ads anymore. What have Adam and Peter learnt over 40 years about the actual cost of dull marketing to businesses, to brands and even to your career?And for those ma...
2023-09-06
56 min
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How Lucky Saint created the non-alcoholic beer category - Luke Boase, Founder
How do you create a brand in a sub-category where only a handful of major brands operate a product line, from scratch, having never worked in the industry before? Well, Luke Boase did exactly that when he founded Lucky Saint, the worlds first alcohol free only brand. From finding a brewing partner to create an enjoyable alcohol free beer, raising money from investors to almost losing the business during COVID, this episode has it all.Timestamps:00:00 - Intro01:23 - Life before Lucky Saint for Luke06:02 - Coming up with the Lucky Saint idea
2023-08-30
1h 03
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Orlando Wood on Advertising
Long time returning guest Orlando Wood is back in the hot seat, talking all things advertising. We look back on his two IPA bestselling books, Lemon and Look Out, to discuss how the two sides of the brain attend to the world differently and how this impacts advertising both on TV and digital. We also discuss some of Orlando's favourite recent adverts and why he likes them.Timestamps:00:00 - Intro01:32 - Who is Orlando Wood02:50 - Orlando’s latest work03:54 - Is Orlando only talking about digital?05:18 - How to build br...
2023-08-24
47 min
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"Who Gives a Crap" on DTC vs retail, small budgets and their first TV campaign - Emily Kraftman, Managing Director UK
Emily Kraftman is the Managing Director for UK & Europe for a brand who are disrupting a category no one else thought to, toilet paper. That brand is, of course, Who Gives A Crap. Their quirky nature, fun packaging and strong stance on sustainability are helping them make a dent in a big-brand dominated category. Emily has had quite the career, starting out working on Stella Artois, before leaving the corporate life to join a young Deliveroo to head up their "Rider Marketing" division. She's since made the switch from Marketing Director to Managing Director, learning to deal with all...
2023-08-09
45 min
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What the marketing industry is truly terrified of - Tom Goodwin
The return of Uncensored CMO podcast legend Tom Goodwin. In this final flourishing episode recorded from Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity, in what has become our annual chinwag, we riff on everything from how advertising thinking can build big businesses to why marketeers invest in celebrities, despite the data not backing the value equation. What would our ideal Cannes festival look like? What would we do differently next year…. and where? And why we want to bring back the Tango Campaign!If you want more Tom, we'll be holding a LIVE Uncensored CMO at The Curzon Soho (no...
2023-08-02
58 min
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Selling Uncommon, the death of advertising and a British original - Nils Leonard
Nils Leonard is returning to the Uncensored CMO podcast after selling his agency, Uncommon to Havas. We discuss what's next, why he feels it's an investment not an acquisition, what AI means for creativity, culture and more.Timestamps00:00:00 - Intro00:01:11 - Selling Uncommon to Havas00:02:10 - What does partnering with Havas allow them to do?00:08:22 - How did the team react?00:09:50 - Expanding to the US00:12:22 - What’s changing?00:14:42 - Part 2: What’s new with Uncommon?00:16:33 - Keeping creativity alive00:19:20 - Is advertising dead?00:21:21 - Getting Chat...
2023-07-27
1h 08
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Sir Martin Sorrell on the 5 biggest ways AI will change marketing
In this episode, I am talking to one of the titans of our industry, someone who I think has had a bigger impact on our industry than perhaps anybody else. He is Sir Martin Sorrell founder of WPP, the biggest holding company in the world.He has since gone on to set up S4 capital, so now finds himself in the challenger position rather than the dominant player. I wanted to talk to Sir Martin about what he sees as the biggest challenges facing our industry today and what are the disruptions coming down the line that...
2023-07-20
53 min
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MAD//Fest LIVE - how to ride the storm with Britain’s leading retail CMO’s
In a special live from MAD//Fest edition of Uncensored CMO, I'm joined by some of the country's top CMO's on a panel about riding the storm in retail. Very’s Jessica Myers, Alex Rogerson from Morrisons, Adam Zavalis (formerly Aldi) and Pete Markey from Boots join me on the panel.But, ladies and gentlemen, there is more! This is a double header of Uncensored CMO, as I also caught up with some people live on the floor at MAD//Fest, including Heineken CMO Michael Gillane and revealing some new research from System1, JCDecaux and Specsavers....
2023-07-14
40 min
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From selling Tea to the British to Latin America's largest e-commerce business - Sean Summers, Mercado Libre
In a career that's spanned selling Tea to the British as Marketing Director at Twinings, to now CMO at the largest e-commerce business in Latin America, Sean Summers knows a thing or two about marketing (at all levels). I catch up with him at Cannes to discuss his career, what it's like scaling a business from $300m to $10b in revenue and what he thinks of the latest trends like AI.Timestamps00:00 - Intro01:04 - Why is Sean in Cannes?02:25 - What creates an award winning campaign?03:21 - How to make the...
2023-07-12
55 min
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Marketing Britain’s largest supermarket in a cost of living crisis - Alessandra Bellini, Tesco
Allessandra Bellini is the Chief Customer Officer at Tesco, the largest supermarket in the UK. Previously she's held roles at agencies, before 21 years at Unilever rising up through the ranks to some very senior positions. Tesco are a huge household brand to represent in the UK, and Allessandra and her team have created some exceptional work over the years, including the well received "Food Love Stories" campaign. We talk all about those campaigns, how they scored on the System1 database and what it takes to run such a large brand.LinksFollow JonWatch UCMO on YouTube
2023-07-05
58 min
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MAD//Fest - From contemporary dance to craft beer revolution? - Tom Rainsford, Beavertown Brewery
Tom Rainsford has been named as one of the Top 50 creative minds in the country. After a surprising start to his career (that still stands him in great creative stead even now), Tom has grown a challenger brand into a household name and now leads the Marketing at one of the coolest brands on the planet – Beavertown Brewery.What does Tom see as the magic ingredients for successful brand growth, why does he believe culture and fact-based emotion are they key and how is he going to top his show stopping MadFest opener from last yearDan...
2023-06-29
1h 07
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Rory Sutherland, the Master of Madfest, on why behavioural science should get awards
Live from Cannes, third time returning guest Rory Sutherland gives us his views on just how good this year’s Festival of Creativity is, what should be awarded, AI vs AI, what we should be looking for as marketeers in current trends and the value that behavioural science brings to creativity.He also talks about what he is looking forward to on the road to another great festival – Madfest, and why he is doing his Mad Masters course.What we covered in this episode:Why Rory thinks this Cannes Lions Festival is the most wond...
2023-06-27
41 min
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Cannes Lions - The Triple Opportunity of Attention with Karen Nelson-Field, Orlando Wood, Rob Brittain
In this episode I'm joined by three more effectiveness titans in my Cannes special coverage. Karen Nelson-Field, Rob Brittain and fan favourite Orlando Wood join me to talk about the triple opportunity of attention.
2023-06-23
23 min
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Cannes Lions - The 3rd Age of Effectiveness with Les Binet, Grace Kite & Tom Roach
Following on from the IPA EffWorks and WARC session on the Terrace Stage in Cannes, I speak to effectiveness legends, Les Binet, Grace Kite and Tom roach to outline the big shifts in advertising effectiveness in the digital era, suggesting that we’re leaving the trough of disillusionment and moving onto the plateau of productivity.Register for the IPA webinar: https://ipa.co.uk/events-listing/the-3rd-age-of-effectivenessDigital once promised so much in terms of effectiveness, efficiency, tracking, and accountability. But the reality didn’t live up to the hype. And now we’re entering a new er...
2023-06-21
24 min
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Managing the biggest beauty brand in the world - Lex Bradshaw-Zanger, L'Oreal CMO
Lex Bradshaw-Zanger is the Chief Marketing & Digital Officer for L’Oréal South Asia Pacific, Middle East & North Africa Region. Prior to this role, Lex was the CMO for the UK & Ireland, held roles in the Western Europe Zone and was Chief Digital Officer for the L’Oréal Middle East and Africa Region. Prior to L’Oréal, Lex was with McDonald’s and Facebook. He is a recovered ad-man having spent over 10 years in the agency world, with both WPP and Publicis – his last role was Regional Director for Digital Strategy & Innovation for Leo Burnett MENA.
2023-06-14
51 min
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A marketers guide to a squiggly career - Helen Tupper, Amazing If
Work is fundamentally important to the quality of our lives and we are surrounded by more change and choice than ever before. Our careers have become far less predictable and increasingly 'squiggly'. In this episode I have a chat with Helen Tupper, co-founder of Amazing If and co-author of "The Squiggly Career: Ditch the Ladder, Discover Opportunity, Design Your Career".Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube ->Find out more about Helen:The Squiggly Career BookSquiggly Careers PodcastAmazing IfHelen's LinkedInWhat we covered in this episode:How Helen and Sarah started their...
2023-06-07
55 min
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Managing the worlds largest drinks brands (Guinness, Johnnie Walker, Smirnoff & more) - Ed Pilkington, CMO Diageo NA
Edward Pilkington is the Chief Marketing & Innovation Officer at Diageo North America, managing a portfolio of the biggest brands in the world, including Guinness, Johnnie Walker, Baileys, Smirnoff and more. If theres anyone that understands how to run marketing for huge brands, it's Ed, and he certainly brings his wealth of experience to this conversation.
2023-05-31
45 min
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How Google put humanity into technology - Nishma Robb, Google UK
Nishma is responsible for leading brand and reputation marketing for Google in the UK. She has led many of Google’s acclaimed projects and campaigns including Digital Garage, This is My YouTube, the Google Executive Summit, Brandcast, ThinkwithGoogle and Be Internet Legends. Nishma is a Board Director at the School of Marketing and is proud to be a Fellow of the Marketing Society. Her accolades include Ad Age’s Woman to Watch, Europe (2018), Campaign A List (2017, 2018 and 2019), Drum Digerati and was recognised in the Hospital Group’s h100 list as one of the most influential and innovative people...
2023-05-24
1h 03
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Mastering the client-agency relationship - Richard Warren, prev. Lloyds Banking Group & Lowe
Richard Warren has spent his career working in and growing agencies, but most recently has worked in house at one of the UK's largest banking group, Lloyds. In 2000 Richard founded DLKW as Director of Strategy, which grew to become the the UK’s largest independent agency, before merging with Lowe in 2010. As someone who has spent time on both sides, I wanted to catch up with Richard to find out how to make the most of the agency-client relationship.
2023-05-03
53 min
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From start up to £10 billion; building the ultimate challenger brand - Rebecca Dibb-Simkin
Rebecca Dibb-Simkin is the Chief Product and Marketing Officer at Octopus Energy Group. Previously at British Gas, Rebecca has helped scale Octopus into an impressive challenger brand with over 50k customers and $10b in revenue.What we covered in this episodeResponding to a job ad written by Rory SutherlandFrom the tax department to marketingBeing rejected on graduate schemesPoetic job applicationsMarketing jargon that needs to be ditchedWhy being close to the customer mattersThe marketers role in the middle of the spiders webFrom energy industry giant to start upThe spontaneous moment that led to Octopus energyJon blags...
2023-04-26
49 min
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Humour, purpose & beating imposter syndrome - Jo Arden, Ogilvy UK
Jo Arden is the Chief Strategy Officer of Ogilvy UK, and she joins me on the podcast to talk all things strategy. What's involved, why it's important and how to make a career of it. Jo's experience is vast, not landing a "strategy" role until her 30's and since has had senior roles at Publicis•Poke and MullenLowe.Here's what we covered in our chat:How Jo got into strategyHer winding path from PR through business development and into strategyWhat does a Chief Strategy Officer do?The role of generosity in being a great CSOThe business ca...
2023-04-19
46 min
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Eyebrow raising McDonald's advertising - Chaka Sobhani, Leo Burnett
Chaka Sobhani is Chief Creative Officer of Leo Burnett London. With 20 years of experience as an award winning director, writer and creative director, she has worked for the biggest broadcasters, brands and agencies worldwide. She hasn’t had a conventional advertising career, having spent over 10 years as a film maker and in television. Chaka was recruited by ITV to set up and ECD their first in-house creative agency, production company and design studio. She has worked on countless brands including McDonalds, Boots, Coca Cola & more.Watch the McDonalds ad.Talking points:Celebrating Campaign Creative Le...
2023-04-12
43 min
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Better Brand Health - Jenni Romaniuk, Ehrenberg-Bass
Professor Jenni Romaniuk is the International Director of the world-famous Ehrenberg-Bass Institute and author of Building Distinctive Brand Assets and How Brands Grow Part 2 - revised. Jenni is a leading expert in brand equity, mental availability, brand health metrics, advertising effectiveness, distinctive assets, word of mouth and the role of loyalty and growth. Through her work at the Ehrenberg-Bass Institute she has advised many of the world’s biggest brands.Jenni is an engaging and entertaining keynote speaker that has presented her research at leading industry conferences globally. Her latest book Better Brand Heal...
2023-04-05
1h 06
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Feel free to ignore this podcast episode - Richard Shotton
A return for podcast guest number 1, Richard Shotton, following the launch of his brand new book "The Illusion of Choice: 16½ psychological biases that influence what we buy"."Every day, people make hundreds of choices.Many of these are commercial: What shampoo to pick? How much to spend on a bottle of wine? Whether to renew a subscription?These choices might appear to be freely made, but psychologists have shown that subtle changes in the way products are positioned, promoted and marketed can radically alter how customers behave.The Illusion of Choice i...
2023-03-29
1h 06
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How not to plan - Les Binet & Sarah Carter
Les Binet and Sarah Carter are planning royalty. Starting out at the iconic BMP, the agency which evolved over time to become adam&eve today, they are the planners behind many famous campaigns. Not least John Lewis which lasted an impressive 14 years. A few years ago their popular myth busting column turned into the well known book ‘How Not to Plan’ taking conventional wisdom and turning it on its head. I catch up with the dynamic duo to pick their considerable brains on the topics they think marketers least understand.Talking points from this episode:The real...
2023-03-15
1h 02
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Why every marketer should be more pirate - Sam Conniff
In this episode I'm joined by Sam Conniff, the author of Be More Pirate, creator of Uncertainty Experts and stand-up comedian. I speak to Sam about what marketers can learn from the pirates (which is a genuinely interesting look back in time), how we can deal with uncertain times and find out what his best joke is in his new hobby, stand-up comedy.To win a copy of Sam's book, you just have to guess the number of books he's sold. Send me a message on LinkedIn with your guess.What we covered: Why h...
2023-03-02
1h 10
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How to build habit-forming products - Nir Eyal, Part 2
Nir Eyal is back for the second part of this 2-part Uncensored CMO series. This episode, we talk about the book that made him famous - Hooked - and how you can apply habit-forming techniques to your own marketing work.Some more about Nir:Nir Eyal writes, consults, and teaches about the intersection of psychology, technology, and business. Nir previously taught as a Lecturer in Marketing at the Stanford Graduate School of Business and the Hasso Plattner Institute of Design at Stanford. Nir co-founded and sold two tech companies since 2003 and was dubbed b...
2023-02-15
46 min
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AdContrarian on why online advertising is a scam - Bob Hoffman
Why the AdContrarian decided to end his weekly newsletterThe irony of Bob getting an award for best speaker at an AdTech conferenceA surprising honour from Byron SharpThe freedom that comes from being an independentBob’s most contrarian ever statementThe shocking amount of personal data gather about every personHow the marketing industry is complicit in on-line tracking and division in societyThe issue of tracking and how we managed just fine beforehandWhy advertising works better when it isn’t pe...
2023-02-01
55 min
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Indistractable: the marketer's secret weapon - Nir Eyal, Part 1
Nir Eyal writes, consults, and teaches about the intersection of psychology, technology, and business. Nir previously taught as a Lecturer in Marketing at the Stanford Graduate School of Business and the Hasso Plattner Institute of Design at Stanford. Nir co-founded and sold two tech companies since 2003 and was dubbed by The M.I.T. Technology Reviewas, “The Prophet of Habit-Forming Technology.” Bloomberg Businessweek wrote, “Nir Eyal is the habits guy. Want to understand how to get app users to come back again and again? Then Eyal is your man.”He is the author of two bestselli...
2023-01-19
54 min
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Mark Ritson's uncensored review of the best ads of 2022
Mark Ritson is back on the Uncensored CMO podcast, and he's more uncensored than ever. This episode brings his ever candid thoughts on the best ads of 2022, who f*cked up and who he's been most impressed by. Strap in for Ritson's Review of 2022.Watch Uncensored CMO on YouTube here.What we covered in this conversation:Biggest marketing cock up of 2022The 2022 new entry on Mark’s Marketing Bulls**t Top 10The biggest surprise of 2022Which brand impressed him the most in 2022Who taught him the most in 2022The short term pay off of lo...
2023-01-04
1h 21
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Making iconic high street retailer, Boots, relevant again - Pete Markey, Boots
What does it take to be the CMO of an iconic British high-street retailer, like Boots? Pete Markey shares his valuable wisdom and insights from a career at the very top.What we covered in this episode:The difficult second album making Boots Christmas AdRediscovering the joy of Hall & OatesWhy Retailers are so good at making Christmas adsMaking people feel more festiveThe importance of escaping reality at ChristmasHow Boots landed on Joy as a proposition for BootsThe purpose of making gifting easier and more joyfulBeing CMO of a high st retailer during covid & recessionHow Boots is...
2022-12-12
49 min
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Lessons from Aldi's IPA Gold winning Kevin the Carrot - McCann
As Christmas ad season is in full swing, I speak to the planning and strategy team from McCann Manchester, the agency that created Aldi’s Kevin the Carrot.What we cover in this episode:Why Darren and Jamie bring a life size Kevin’s to meetingsThe benefit of doing strategy as a pairConvincing a sceptical customer to shop at Aldi for ChristmasTaking inspiration from John Lewis the reigning king of ChristmasHow the humble carrot being the big ideaSelling the idea into AldiWhy they didn’t want to recreate a brand new campaign every yearThe challenge to beat K...
2022-11-30
1h 14
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Advertising creativity in times of crisis
The most returned guest in Uncensored CMO history, Orlando Wood, is back. He made a brief cameo last episode but I wanted to dive deeper into creative styles that work in difficult times and if you should re-use old creative.What we covered in this episode:How Hovis proved the power of wear-in with an almost 5 StarCreative inspiration from an ad that is almost 50 years oldHow the romantic era is reflected in the Hovis adThe role of the right-brain in capturing attentionWhat covid taught us about creative wear-in vs wear-outThe accidental creative experiment that occurred during...
2022-11-21
31 min
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Ritson on Recession: what every marketer needs to know
Storm clouds continue to gather over the global economy. With the latest quarterly UK GDP figures released on November 11 and the US and other parts of the world also bracing for a recession, this special recording of System1’s webinar dives into how brands can navigate tough times.However, tough times also bring opportunity. As the late great F1 driver Ayrton Senna once said, ‘You cannot overtake 15 cars in sunny weather… but you can when it’s raining.’In possibly the most comprehensive study of recession, Nitin Nohria found that 9% of companies come out of a r...
2022-11-14
56 min
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How entertainment, brand mascots and creative testing delivered a winner for Tourism Australia - Susan Coghill
Susan Coghill is the Marketing Director at Tourism Australia and they've got one of the best performing ads on the System1 database, with their new campaign "G'Day". But this wasn't without taking some risks, such as introducing a new brand mascot, getting high profile stars to feature and producing a 9 minute film.Watch the ad here.What we covered in this episode:Why Susan has the best job in the WorldHow to set KPI’s for a tourism brandWhy Tourism Australia kept advertising through the pandemicWhat System1 learnt about advertising during covidWinning the only Ef...
2022-11-08
52 min
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How the world’s best leaders lead with speed - Sophie Devonshire
Sophie is the CEO of The Marketing Society and the author of Superfast: Lead at Speed, in which she offers insight into energy management, purposeful leadership, and keeping pace with breakneck innovation. She is also a passionate advocate of flex work as the future of effective companies, and regularly speaks about innovative approaches to balance business and family life. Her career began at Procter & Gamble and Coca-Cola Great Britain, Interbrand, and then Leo Burnett Dubai. She went on to become CEO of The Caffeine Partnership, an innovative consultancy helping leaders with purpose and pace. Most recently, in July 2020, Sophie...
2022-11-01
44 min
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Why reach-based media planning is broken and how to fix it - Karen Nelson-Field
Professor Karen Nelson-Field is Founder and CEO of Amplified Intelligence, and Professor of Media Innovation at The University of Adelaide. Karen is a globally acclaimed researcher in media science, is a regular speaker on the major circuits, including Cannes and SXSW, and has secured research funding from some of the world’s largest advertisers. Her first book, Viral Marketing: the science of sharing, set the record straight on hunting for ‘viral success’. Her most recent book The Attention Economy and How Media Works explains the stark reality of human attention processing in advertising. Karen’s commercial work combines tech and inno...
2022-10-24
28 min
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Why all car adverts are the same - Kirsten Stagg, Skoda
Now, a topic in this episode very close to my heart. Why are car ads all so bad? I spoke with Kirsten Stagg from Skoda, who's the UK Marketing Director and has made some pretty good ads herself. In fact, Skoda are responsible for the best ad on the System1 database. We also talk a lot about the move to electric vehicles, the biggest revolution since the combustion engine. How do we get more people into electric vehicles over from petrol? And what are the car industry doing to save the planet? So, no shortage of big questions in...
2022-10-12
42 min
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Can marketing save the planet? - Leo Rayman, Eden Lab
Leo is the founder of Eden Lab, a new kind of consultancy and venture studio, they don't just advise on how to win in the Net Zero future, they build it with you. He's the former CEO and Chief Strategy Officer of ad agency Grey London, founder of Grey Consulting, speaker, writer and start-up mentor.He believes businesses can help shape the planet for the better. To do that he says we need to invent - and reinvent - companies for a post-carbon world. He scouts, designs and assembles new business models, products and services that actively...
2022-09-22
37 min
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How a great culture led to creativity at KFC - Meghan Farren, KFC CMO
Meghan Farren spent 10 years at KFC UK, spending the last 5 as CMO. What does it take to run a marketing department of one of the biggest consumer brands? What do you do when you run out of chicken as a fast food chicken joint? How do you change your strapline when it involves licking fingers during a global pandemic? And how a strong culture is pivotal for all this creativity to happen.What we covered in this episodeGoing back to KFC after a year - back to school vibeThe realness of working in a KFC...
2022-09-13
42 min
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5 ways to make effective advertising - Jon Evans
Now it's the summer holidays, and that means everybody's taking a well earned break from all their hard work. And that includes the Uncensored CMO, but producer James never wants to let me off an episode, And he said, why before you go away, why don't you just do a quick episode. So, I thought, why not do a little bonus episode?It got me thinking, what subject do I know a little bit about that might be useful to my listeners? And, this is where I have to put my System1 hat back on, because what...
2022-08-09
36 min
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Why we should all give a s**t about B2B - Jon Lombardo and Peter Weinberg, LinkedIn B2B Institute
Peter Weinberg and Jon Lombardo are the heads of research and development at the B2B Institute, a think tank at LinkedIn that studies the laws of growth in B2B. You can follow Peter and Jon on LinkedIn. What we covered in this episode:Introducing the youngest B2B marketers on the planetJon & Peters favourite Super Bowl adsThe very low hurdle of writing a B2B articleHow half the economy is in fact B2BIs B2B really different to B2CSales vs Product led B2B companiesThe Product Delusion and why it damages marketingHow...
2022-03-23
52 min