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Children of GraceGuestisode: Daniel RasmussenWe are very proud of Daniel Rasmussen, who joined us to discuss his history with Greater Grace - as well as the positive impacts he's making on his community today!
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TW: strong warning for abuse (including CSA), trauma, bullying, and mental health topics
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IMPORTANT RESOURCES:
**The Baltimore Banner Landing Page: https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/specials/greater-grace/
**The Millstones: https://linktr.ee/themillstones
**MCASA: Maryland Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
**RAINN: Get help 24/7. Call the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network by dialing 800.656.HOPE.
**The Reclamation Collective: A network of therapists who specialize in religious trauma. Visit ReclamationCollective.com for more.
**National Mental Health Hotline: 866-903-3787, https://mentalhe2025-05-0455 min
Children of GraceEaster Guestisode: Other HalvesOur very brave partners agreed to join us for this special holiday edition of our Guestisode series!
TWs: abuse and strong religious verbiage (and yes we're still swearing now)
Feel free to reach out to us anytime at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com :)2025-04-201h 00
Children of GraceGhostologyWe've had a lot of guests come on recently (and more are coming!), but we felt like it was a good time to catch up and go over some recent events. We also learned that when we record late at night, things get a little...unhinged.
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Enjoy!
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TWs: ghosts, demons, exorcisms, mental health topics, abuse (spiritual, mental, physical, child)
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Important Resources:
*Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline* CALL OR TEXT (800)422-4453
https://www.childhelphotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline* 866-903-3787 https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2025-03-231h 14
Children of GraceGuestisode: Glorianne (Chute) Schott"Great podcast. Here is a challenge. Do you know how I connect to your topic?"
And boy, did we ever.
We are beyond excited to have Glorianne (Chute) Schott join us for this Guestisode. It's been a long time coming, and we hope you enjoy!
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Important Resources:
*Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline* CALL OR TEXT (800)422-4453
https://www.childhelphotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline* 866-903-3787 https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2025-03-091h 27
Children of GraceGuestisode: Sam PinkavaSam Pinkava is our guest this week! Tune in as he discusses his fascinating past with Greater Grace, a rather illuminating class lecture from everyone's least favorite head pastor, and his plans for the future.
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Links to Sam's Campaign sites:
Official FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61572736883281
Donations: https://donorbox.org/2025-friends-of-sam-campaign
Canvassing: https://donorbox.org/events/735848/steps/choose_tickets
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An important resource we'd like to share based on this episode:
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2025-02-231h 22
Children of GraceGuestisode: Tom SulloIn this episode, Tom Sullo joins us to discuss his time at The Bible Speaks in Lenox, Greater Grace in Baltimore, and beyond. This winding tale of highs (pun intended) and lows kept us fascinated throughout, so buckle up!
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TW: Domestic violence, mentions of abuse of minors (included a brief mention of the Ray Fernandez case), drug use, and alcohol use.
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An important resource we want to share based on this episode:
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*Suicide and Crisis Hotline (Including Addiction Services)*
Call or Text 988 (US)
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*Recovery Centers of America*
1-800-RECOVERY
https://recoverycentersofamerica.com/
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Children of GraceGuestisode: Carol and DavidSiblings Carol (Bakalyan) Ames and David Bakalyan join us to discuss their experiences with The Bible Speaks, later known as Greater Grace World Outreach.
From traveling hours upon hours on school nights for services, to selling their family home for the church, to Lenox and "Divine Design" marriages, this episode is at times devastating and amusing - but remains powerful throughout.
TW: Mentions of various forms of abuse (including sexual, financial, religious, and mental abuse), abandonment/neglect, bullying, and trauma.
An important resource we want to share based on this episode:
*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903...2025-01-261h 24
Children of GraceCompeting With Who?We're baaaaaack! In this episode, we wrap up 2024/Season 1 stats, discuss the immediate plan going forward, and muse over a conversation had with a listener.
PSA: As our listeners are presumably all adults and we mark our content as "explicit", we have decided to not bleep out swears. If you have any concerns about that, we welcome you to reach out.
Email us anytime at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com or follow us on any major social networking platform.2025-01-1231 min
Children of GraceSeason Finale, ft. The Millstones: Jon & CalebTwo members of the Millstones were kind enough to join us for our final episode of season 1! This is one you certainly won't want to miss - though it is rather heavy, so listen with care.
TW: various forms of abuse including CSA, trauma, mental health topics
IMPORTANT RESOURCES:
The Baltimore Banner Landing Page: https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/specials/greater-grace/
The Millstones: https://linktr.ee/themillstones
RAINN: Get help 24/7. Call the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network by dialing 800.656.HOPE.
The Trevor Project: A nonprofit focused on preventing LGBTQ suicide. Visit TheTrevorProject.org or text 678-678.
The Reclamati...2024-11-241h 40
Children of GraceThe Appeal (Kudos to Jonas)As we near the end of Season 1, we finish off the court drama by covering the final appeal decision in the Massachusetts Court of Appeals.
TW: Manipulation and Brainwashing
Feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com and follow us on any major social media platform :)2024-11-111h 35
Children of GraceThus Sayeth the Judge-WHO: Judge James F. Queenan Jr., US Bankruptcy Judge
-WHAT: Opinion Allowing Claim of Elizabeth Dovydenas
-WHERE: United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of Massachusetts
-WHEN: May 19, 1987 (Amended June 12, 1987)
-WHY: Carl just couldn't help himself, apparently
TW: Manipulation and Brainwashing
Feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com and follow us on any major social media platform :)2024-10-271h 32
Children of GraceOne Year Later (ft. A Very Special Guest)As we've hit the one year mark in this podcast journey, we'd like to say thank you to all of our supporters! Listen in as we celebrate and reflect on the past year. We're also joined by an incredibly special guest, and trust us, you won't want to miss this one!
Thanks again - we can't wait to see what this next year will bring!
Reach out to us anytime at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com or follow us on any major social networking platform.2024-10-131h 18
Children of GraceEverything All at OnceThis episode has everything! Information on Rachael Denhollander, GRACE, Greater Grace's statement, the Millstones' statement, and of course, our usual rantings and ravings ;)
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IMPORTANT RESOURCES:
*Rachael Denhollander: https://rachaeldenhollander.com/about/
rjd.requests@gmail.com
*The Millstones: https://linktr.ee/themillstones
*GRACE: https://www.netgrace.org/
*MCASA: Maryland Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
*RAINN: Get help 24/7. Call the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network by dialing 800.656.HOPE.
*The Reclamation Collective: A network of therapists who specialize in religious trauma. Visit ReclamationCollective.com for more.
*National Mental Health Hotline: 866-903-3787, https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Feel free to reach out to us directly at childrenofgracep...2024-09-291h 07
Children of GraceRevisiting the CRI/Martin ReportWe know, we know, we promised information on Rachael. We swear it's still coming - but with something this important, we'd rather take our time and get it right than do it quickly.
Instead, we're revisiting the CRI/Martin Report and comparing it to current events and responses by Greater Grace! To hear the Martin Report in audio form, go to https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=56arCqtocdw&t=2599s. To read a text version of the report, email us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com and we will send you the file.
No trigger warnings this time (phew!) beyond the general...2024-09-151h 12
Children of GraceA Quick Update: Rachael DenhollanderWe spoke with Rachael Denhollander. We will be sharing the content of that conversation in our next episode, so hang tight!
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IMPORTANT RESOURCES:
*Rachael Denhollander's Website: https://rachaeldenhollander.com/about/
*The Millstones: https://linktr.ee/themillstones
*MCASA: Maryland Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
*RAINN: Get help 24/7. Call the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network by dialing 800.656.HOPE.
*The Trevor Project: A nonprofit focused on preventing LGBTQ suicide. Visit TheTrevorProject.org or text 678-678.
*The Reclamation Collective: A network of therapists who specialize in religious trauma. Visit ReclamationCollective.com for more.
*National Mental Health Hotline: 866-903-3787, https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Feel free to reach out to us dire...2024-09-0117 min
Children of GraceGuestisode: Dana CaronWe're joined by Dana Caron, who discusses her experiences growing up in Greater Grace and finding herself after leaving.
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TW: Mentions of kidnapping, suicide, various forms of abuse (including against minors), bullying, eating disorders, drug and alcohol use
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Some important resources we want to share based on this episode:
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*Suicide and Crises Lifeline* - just dial 988
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline - Call. Text. Chat. (988lifeline.org)
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*National Domestic Violence Hotline*
800-799-7233
https://www.thehotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2024-08-181h 13
Children of GraceThe Albatrosses: Nicole and SaraNicole and Sara, of the protest group "The Albatrosses", join us to discuss the group, the experience of protesting, and what they hope to see in the future.
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TW: brief mentions of religious abuse, sexual abuse of minors, and drug use
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IMPORTANT RESOURCES:
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The Baltimore Banner Landing Page: https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/specials/greater-grace/ _____
The Millstones: https://linktr.ee/themillstones _____
RAINN: Get help 24/7. Call the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network by dialing 800.656.HOPE _____
The Trevor Project: A nonprofit focused on preventing LGBTQ suicide. Visit TheTrevorProject.org or text 678-678 _____
The Reclamation Collective: A network of therapists who specialize in religious trauma. Visit Reclamat...2024-08-041h 13
Children of GraceWhat's Going On?Karen and Elita recap and react to recent events within the GGWO sphere.
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TW: brief mention of allegations of CSA
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IMPORTANT RESOURCES:
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*The Millstones: https://linktr.ee/themillstones
*MCASA: Maryland Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
*RAINN: Get help 24/7. Call the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network by dialing 800.656.HOPE.
*The Trevor Project: A nonprofit focused on preventing LGBTQ suicide. Visit TheTrevorProject.org or text 678-678.
*The Reclamation Collective: A network of therapists who specialize in religious trauma. Visit ReclamationCollective.com for more.
*National Mental Health Hotline: 866-903-3787, https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Feel free to reach out to us directly at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2024-07-211h 10
Children of GraceHigh Demand Relationships, featuring Dr. Laura AndersonWe were so honored and excited to be joined by Dr. Laura Anderson, PhD! She is a licensed psychotherapist, religious trauma expert and coach, speaker, educator, and author of the book "When Religion Hurts You: Healing from Religious Trauma and the Impact of High-Control Religion".
In this episode we discuss the connections and similarities between high control religious groups and domestic violence/controlling relationships. This is definitely one you won't want to miss!
TW: religious trauma, domestic violence
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Some important resources we want to share based on this episode:
"When Religion Hurts You", Dr. Laura E. Anderson
https://a.co...2024-07-0749 min
Children of GraceBehind the Banner: A Conversation with Julie ScharperKaren and Elita are joined by Julie Scharper of the Baltimore Banner to discuss the Millstone group and the recent allegations of abuse at Greater Grace World Outreach churches.
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TW: spiritual abuse, sexual abuse, and rape
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IMPORTANT RESOURCES:
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The Baltimore Banner Landing Page: https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/specials/greater-grace/
The Millstones: https://linktr.ee/themillstones
MCASA: Maryland Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
RAINN: Get help 24/7. Call the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network by dialing 800.656.HOPE.
The Trevor Project: A nonprofit focused on preventing LGBTQ suicide. Visit TheTrevorProject.org or text 678-678.
The Reclamation Collective: A network of therapists who specialize in religious trauma...2024-06-2354 min
Children of Grace10K Giveaway!Friends, Romans, Countrymen...lend us your listens!
We are almost at 10,000 listens across Apple and Spotify (truly incredible!) so we decided to do a giveaway! We've created some merch - a hat and a shirt - and will be giving away one of each :)
There are multiple ways to win, so check out this episode and our socials for all the info. And once again, thank you all so much for being part of this podcast!2024-06-1503 min
Children of GracePurity CultureHere we go folks! This one got deep (so deep)...buckle up!
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TW: mental health topics, various forms of abuse (including sexual assault), suicide, sexual content
Some important resources we want to share based on this episode:
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choosingtherapy.com
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*National Domestic Violence Hotline*
800-799-7233
https://www.thehotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2024-06-091h 15
Children of GraceGuestisode: Andrea and DeannaSister, sister! Sisters Andrea and Deanna join us to discuss their time with Greater Grace, how it impacted their family, and where they are now!
TW: various forms of abuse (including sexual abuse), neglect, alcohol/drug use, cancer and death, mental health topics, and...spoilers for the show Succession, because of course we did haha
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Important Resources:
*Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline*
CALL OR TEXT (800)422-4453
https://www.childhelphotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2024-05-261h 51
Children of GraceOde to MomsHappy Mother's Day everyone! We're very excited to have our mom join us for this one :) She offers a glimpse into her story and some deep wisdom on the struggle of women and mothers in our society and in "the church".
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Some important resources we want to share based on this episode:
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*National Domestic Violence Hotline*
800-799-7233
https://www.thehotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2024-05-1242 min
Children of GraceThe Path to EmpathJoin Elita and Karen as they consider the impacts of trauma and abuse on personality and empathy. This one gets heavy at times, so take care when listening!
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Trigger Warnings: Abuse, Death, Cancer, Mental Illness, Trauma
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Important Resource:
*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2024-04-2855 min
Children of GraceGuestisode: JonathanJonathan joins us to discuss his history with TBS/GGWO, our access to pop culture as children within the ministry, and various mental health topics. It was such a great conversation - thank you for joining us Jonathan!
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TW: Mental Health Topics, Thoughts of Self Harm, Brainwashing, and Various Types of Abuse
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Important Resources:
*National Mental Health Hotline* 866-903-3787 https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and as always, please respect the privacy of our guests. Feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2024-04-141h 25
Children of GraceUpdates and Future Things!This podcast has everything! Updates, mistakes, Carl "apologizing", Hitler-esque salutes (I wish I was joking), fires, future plans...oh, and Happy Easter :)
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Mild trigger warning - brief mention of allegations of SA against minors.
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Reach out to us anytime at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com and find us on practically every social media platform known to man! It'll be under some variation of our name with the same photo for everything.2024-03-3157 min
Children of GraceGuestisode: Betsy DovydenasWe are so incredibly excited to say this - Betsy Dovydenas was kind enough to join us for an interview! We had a lovely time with her, and we hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.
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Find Betsy's book, "If You Want To Know How I Got Brainwashed" on Amazon!
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TW: Abuse, Spiritual Abuse, Grooming, Sexual Abuse, Child Abuse, Disordered Eating
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Important Resources:
*Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline*
CALL OR TEXT (800)422-4453
https://www.childhelphotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at ch...2024-03-1754 min
Children of GraceLenox in the 80s (Icing on a Really Gross Cake)Lenox, Massachusetts. The early-mid 80's. The scandals, the sermons, the audacity.
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email - childrenofgrace@gmail.com,
instagram - @childrenofgrace_podcast,
facebook - facebook.com/ChildrenOfGracePodcast,
tiktok - @children.of.grace2024-03-031h 39
Children of GraceThe Road to Lenox (was Paved with Good Intentions)God (Carl) picked Lenox, and off we go! Covering the first few years in Lenox, from 1976-1979 (with a couple trips down memory lane, of course). See you in the 80s!
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email - childrenofgrace@gmail.com _____
instagram - @childrenofgrace_podcast _____
facebook - facebook.com/ChildrenOfGracePodcast _____
tiktok - @children.of.grace2024-02-181h 23
Children of GraceGuestisode: Dan and Jami, Part 2Siblings Dan and Jami are back to discuss their time growing up in Carl's looming shadow, all the way from Woolwich-Wiscasset to Lenox.
TW: Child Abuse, Violence, Death of a pet
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Important Resources:
*Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline*
CALL OR TEXT (800)422-4453
https://www.childhelphotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2024-02-041h 08
Children of GraceGuestisode: Dan and Jami, Part 1We have our first brave guests! Siblings Dan and Jami join us to discuss their time growing up in Carl's looming shadow, all the way from Woolwich-Wiscasset to Lenox.
TW: General Abuse, Child Abuse, Spiritual Abuse, Sexual Abuse
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Important Resources:
*Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline* CALL OR TEXT (800)422-4453
https://www.childhelphotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline* 866-903-3787 https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2024-01-211h 02
Children of GraceA Little LevityHey there! Slight change in plans, we'll explain I promise. Thank you for listening and for your support over the past year :) We appreciate all of you, and we can't wait to see what 2024 brings!
-Elita & Karen2023-12-3131 min
Children of GraceThe Bible Speaks (Through Carl Apparently)Welcome back everyone! In this episode we discuss the beginning of "The Bible Speaks" ministry in South Berwick. As always, please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com or follow us on Instagram @childrenofgrace_podcast :)2023-12-171h 13
Children of GraceGetting to Know You, Part 2In this episode, Karen dives in and sheds light on some of her experiences at home and within the church.
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Some important resources we want to share based on this episode:
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*National Domestic Violence Hotline*
800-799-7233
https://www.thehotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2023-12-0347 min
Children of GraceGratitude & Lessons LearnedIn the spirit of Thanksgiving, Elita and Karen take a pause from the storytimes to reflect on what they're grateful for! It felt like a good time for a more lighthearted episode :)
Feel free to email us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com or reach out via instagram @childrenofgrace_podcast - we'd love to hear from youI2023-11-1942 min
Children of GraceGetting to Know You, Part 1In this episode Elita tells a little more of her story. We hope that through this, you can get to know us a bit better!
Some important resources we want to share based on this episode:
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*National Domestic Violence Hotline*
800-799-7233
https://www.thehotline.org/
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*National Mental Health Hotline*
866-903-3787
https://mentalhealthhotline.org/
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Thank you for listening, and please feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com!2023-11-0554 min
Children of GraceIn the Beginning (Carl's Version)In this episode, Elita and Karen discuss the early history of Carl Stevens - the man who would go on to found what's now known as Greater Grace World Outreach (GGWO).
Enjoy!2023-10-2223 min
Children of GraceWhat is Normal, Anyway?For their first official episode, Elita and Karen discuss the moments in their lives when they realized they weren't living in a typical situation. This mainly pertains to life within their home, but extends out into the church as well!
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As you listen, be aware that there are sensitive topics discussed in this episode. Please take care of yourself - only listen if that's something that feels right for you, and take breaks if you need them :)
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Some important resources to share based on this episode:
*National Domestic Violence Hotline*
800-799-7233
https://www.thehotline.org/
*National Mental...2023-10-0817 min
Children of GraceHello, and Welcome!Welcome to Children of Grace - a podcast about two sisters growing up in a high demand religion and how that has shaped our lives.
Please bear with us as we get started! This is our first time podcasting, and as we get more experience the audio (and our ability to speak English properly apparently) will get better!
Feel free to reach out to us at childrenofgracepodcast@gmail.com with any questions, concerns, corrections, or anything you’d like to share!2023-10-0107 min