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Real Job TalkEpisode 100: Day to Day Life as an Employee: Employee Experience Series, Part 3Exciting new idea: we are doing a series on employee experience! Today’s episode is number 3 talks about the employee experience of every day life as an employee.
This is about understanding what each employee needs and wants and providing the training, tools, mentorship, and guidance to help them be successful.
And for employees, it means showing up and being the best you can be.
Generally, people leave companies because of lack of a supportive manager and/or a fear about the company’s future. They also leave because of career development, compensation, and...2024-12-1720 min
Real Job TalkEpisode 99: Onboarding - Employee Experience Series, Part 2We're doing a series of podcast episodes on employee experience! Today’s episode is number 2, which talks about the importance of the onboarding process.
This episode is for EVERYONE AND ANYONE who is involved with the onboarding process -- managers, leaders, candidates, and interviewers. "Onboarding" is the term used for the plan and process for welcoming someone to a company and getting them trained up for their new role.
Onboarding is a, if not THE, critical piece of employee success. According to a Jobvite 2020 survey, 1 in 3 hires leaves a job in the first 90 days. In a...2024-12-1026 min
Real Job TalkEpisode 98: The Recruiting Process - Employee Experience Series, Part 1We had an exciting new idea -- with today's episode, we kick off a series of episodes looking at the employee experience from many different angles. Today’s episode is number 1 in the series. We start by talking about the very beginning of the employee experience: the recruiting process. Future episodes will include onboarding, being an employee, career development, and leaving a company.
This episode is for EVERYONE AND ANYONE who is involved with the recruiting process -- managers, leaders, candidates, and interviewers. We've talked a lot about the recruiting process from the applicants perspective many times, bu...2024-12-0335 min
Real Job TalkEpisode 97: Difficult Conversations at Work - guest episode with the Truth, Lies & Work podcastA special episode: Liz and Kat are guests on the Truth, Lies, & Work Podcast, where they talked about difficult conversations at work.
Check out this episode with Liz and Kat on Difficult Conversations at Work, epsiode 137 of the Truth, Lies & Work podcast.
Listen to the episode right here or listen to this bonus episode right here in your Real Job Talk feed.
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Welcome to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning psychology podcast brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network. Join hosts Leanne Elliott, chartered psychologist, and Al Elliott, business...2024-11-0653 minReal Job TalkEpisode 96: All is Good, But I’m Restless - Listener QuestionWe have a letter! A listener asks us what they should do if everything is just good. They’re restless: work is good, they make good money, have work/life balance, but they're wondering if this is it. Our listener’s name is “Restless” and we explore how they should approach this mid-career moment.
First - everything is relative. The grass can be greener on someone else’s hill, but your grass may be really green to someone else. We tell Restless that they need to explore why they’re feeling this way. What is at the root of thei...2024-08-0612 minReal Job TalkEpisode 95: Red Flags in the Job Search ProcessWe’re talking from experience about red flags, especially in the job search process, where your gut fits into decision making and how to listen for those flags.
Kat tells her story from 20 years ago about her first HR Leadership role where she joined a company working for a husband and wife team. The offer was lower than her comfort zone with a bonus to get her there. She then needed to clock in, which is unknown in leadership roles. When Kat got home from her first week on the job, she said to her husband, “One week...2024-06-1129 minReal Job TalkEpisode 94: Golden Handcuffs- What Do I Do?We have a letter! One of our listeners wrote to us with a question. They are stuck with what to do with their golden hancuffs. Their current employer was acquired by a larger company. The company wants them to stay, and has given them a year-long series of bonuses and severance if they stay long enough. But they'd also like to look around to see if there are other opportunities. They don’t know what to do about their bonus package in the job search: can they disclose it? Can they use it as leverage it as part of a...2024-02-2017 minReal Job TalkEpisode 93: How to Handle Your Company CardToday we’re talking about all things Company-Paid. We're here to help you understand and navigate the world of expenses. Here are the Real Job Talk guidelines for using your company credit card.
Guideline 1: Look at your company handbook/rulebook and familiarize yourself with the company’s policies around expenses. There may be limits on hotels, guidelines around flights, and per diems for meals and drinks.
If you see friends during time in a new city, that needs to be on your dime - just like when you see friends at home. Your per diem is t...2023-12-0521 minReal Job TalkEpisode 92: This Was All An Accident with Kat KibbenWelcome back to Real Job Talk, Kat Kibben! Kat (pronouns they/them) is the founder of Three Ears Media, a speaker, advocate, and leader in the HR space around inclusivity and job descriptions. We're really pleased to have Kat join us for a second time on the podcast. (Check out their first appearance, Episode 38: Write a Resume that Gets Past the Screeners with Katrina Kibben)
Every week, Kat writes a letter with their thoughts from that week. They started writing their letters as a marketing exercise, but found the letters got more personal and they eventually evolved...2023-10-1839 minReal Job TalkEpisode 91: Networking with a Purpose with Robert GilbreathWelcome to Real Job Talk Robert Gilbreath! Robert talks to us about his career journey as a solopreneur, entrepreneur, and an employee and how he treats each role like he’s the owner of the company.
Robert Gilbreath is an experienced solopreneur and entrepreneur, and joins the show to share his insights on work mindset, ownership of roles, networking, and evaluating side gigs. He has a diverse background that spans SaaS, ecommerce, partnerships, marketplaces, and product, with experience on both sides of the table across all those areas.
Tune in as he delves into the im...2023-08-2832 minReal Job TalkEpisode 90: Advance Your Career with Kelli ThompsonWelcome to Kelli Thompson! Kelli is a speaker, coach, author, and HR executive who left the corporate world to pursue her passion for helping women advance their careers. She is driven to help more women make it to the board room, advance their careers, and bring their best, most authentic selves to the office. Today we’re going to be focusing on talking with Kelli about the very important topic of salary negotiation.
Kelli’s career started in banking, where in her journey in HR and leadership development she noticed that most of leadership were men. She foun...2023-06-1638 minReal Job TalkEpisode 89: Feedback Conversations at WorkToday we're talking about giving feedback at work.
In talking with managers at work, Liz encouraged people to ask their people how they wanted to get feedback and how to deliver news positive and negative.
Feedback, when given in a timely and kind manner, can be a gift. But often we forget key steps like finding out how someone likes to receive feedback or framing it in a way that makes sure your point is conveyed.
Feedback tip #1 is to make it as timely as possible. When you finish something, talk about what...2023-05-0429 minReal Job TalkEpisode 88: Layoffs and Severance -- What Should You Know?We talk about a topic that has come up extensively over the last few months -- severance packages. What are they? What aren't they? Why do they exist? What do you do when you get them? Our goal is to answer all of the questions we get around them to help you learn and be prepared if you’re faced with them.
Question 1: What is a severance package and what is the point of them especially if I’m an at will employee?
"At Will" means that you don’t belong to the company.
Why do compan...2023-02-2726 minReal Job TalkEpisode 87: Change in Careers with Mpume Ncube-DakaLiz and Kat Zoom in with Mpume Ncube-Daka all the way from South Africa to talk about change conversations. Mpume works with people to drive the best decisions in their growth and development. She is passionate about personal and professional development and learning through change.
Mpume thought she’d be a doctor when she grew up, but realized she needed to change direction after a failed math class. She then became an accountant and has built a career on change.
After laughing at humanities students in college, Mpume finds herself a student of people and pa...2023-01-1339 minReal Job TalkEpisode 86: How to avoid job abandonmentToday we’re talking about job abandonment -- something we’ve each seen a handful of times in our corporate careers. (Kat saw it more with people working in retail.)
We want you to know what job abandonment is, how to avoid it, and what the ripple effect can be when someone abandons their job.
What is job abandonment? Job abandonment is when you just disappear from work and nobody knows where you are for a certain period of time, even just a few days. It often leads to you losing your job.
When...2022-11-3016 minReal Job TalkEpisode 85: Personal Branding and Resume Strategies with Angela LoebWelcome to Real Job Talk, Angela Loeb! We refer our clients who need their resumes done to Angela because she literally wrote the book(s) on resumes and job searching. Angela started out helping people to get into beauty school- she interviewed people and helped them get into classes. Angela got into recruiting by answering an online ad (a rarity!) and worked at an agency for many years until the 2009 recession. She wrote a book, conducted seminars, and hosted a radio show on “blog talk radio” on the job search process.
We asked Angela about going out on h...2022-10-0448 minReal Job TalkEpisode 84: Your company was acquired! Now what?In this episode we advise on what to do when your company gets acquired. Most of us don’t know if our company is going to change structure, ownership, or leadership, so when something big is announced it can be a bit shocking and can cause us to ask, “What happens to me?”
What do you do that day? Acknowledge your feelings - you’re going to get flooded with emotion. It’s scary. The number 1 thing you can do is take care of yourself. Continue to breathe. Take a walk. Understand that the feelings of uncertainty are normal...2022-08-3018 minReal Job TalkEpisode 83: Top Secret! Taking about NDAsTop secret! We’re talking about NDAs, non-disclosure agreements. What’s an NDA? It’s an agreement between you and the company saying that you won’t share information about the company outside of the company. These are shared whether you’re an employee or a contractor.
Sometimes you sign an NDA when you’re interviewing, which means that whatever you learn during the process you can not take back to your current employer.
If you’re working on a secret project at work, your NDA says that you don’t tell anyone about what you’re working o...2022-06-2809 minReal Job TalkEpisode 82: Truth in Background ChecksToday we’re talking about background checks. Background checks are a standard piece of company’s hiring processes. The company takes the resume and verifies education, employment, and criminal records. Sometimes they also do things like drug tests.
Both of us have had to rescind offers or eliminate employment based on background investigations, and each of those situations could have been avoided.
The net net: be honest. It establishes trust.
Background checks include references. A bad reference check can cause doubt and we’ve seen offers get rescinded because of them. So be aware...2022-05-1717 minReal Job TalkEpisode 81: Managing Gen Z and intergenerational communication with Dr Carrie RootWelcome to Dr. Carrie Root, who joins us to share her book The Other Soft Skill that teaches about intergenerational communication and connection. Carrie has had a number of career twists and turns, breaking barriers as an IT consultant with the Navy and now as an educational consultant.
Carrie tells us that she ignored the gender differences she found in her early career by pretending there wasn’t one.
With her work consulting with the Navy on pause, she did some consulting with NASA and thought about everything she’d learned and saw a lack in t...2022-04-1242 minReal Job TalkEpisode 80: Millennial Management with Emily TsitrianWelcome to Professional Service Manager and author of the new book Make Me The Boss: Surviving as a Millenial Manager in the Corporate World, Emily Tsitrian! We talked with Emily about being a “newer career” manager, why she wrote her book, and lessons she learned along the way.
We asked Emily how she got into professional services (which is a lot of project management, implementation, and customer success), and she told us about how in college she wanted to be in tech, since tech changes the world (for better or worse). She started at an enterprise health solu...2022-02-2245 minReal Job TalkEpisode 79: Be Prepared for Networking!In this episode we’re taking a lesson from something that happened to Liz and using it to help people be prepared for networking meetings, especially when networking with executives.
Liz posted on Linkedin about how her company is hiring, why it's great to work there, and told people to sign up for time with her if they were interested. Well, her calendar was FILLED….mostly with job seekers looking for pretty significant career changes.
When people met with Liz, a lot of them didn’t know how to maximize their time with her. We decide...2022-01-1823 minReal Job TalkEpisode 78: Career Rehab with Kanika TolverWelcome to Kanika Tolver, speaker, CEO/founder, and author of Career Rehab. Kanika is a tech program manager who has build a business around helping people find and get the jobs they really want and will really love. Kanika inspires people around the globe to pursue their dreams, build their personal brands, and she is part of our tribe of people urging people to be the CEOs of their careers.
In 2014 Kanika was unhappy in her job as a project manager at a Federal agency, and she decided to check herself into Career Rehab and work on...2022-01-0436 minReal Job TalkEpisode 77: Bereavement LeaveToday we’re talking about bereavement and bereavement leave and what to do when you need to take bereavement.
Many companies offer very little bereavement leave. A leae of 3 days for a close loved one is typical, which we think is crazy, as our stance is that most people will not be able to come back after losing a family member after 3 days. AND, if they do come back, they won’t be at anywhere near full capacity.
We hope that company cultures support people when they are grieving, and we ask our listeners to give...2021-12-2120 minReal Job TalkEpisode 76: Follow Your Path with Dr Carol Parker WalshToday we’re welcoming Dr. Carol Parker Walsh, whose tagline we love: she helps high-achieving professional women at midlife courageously design a career, brand & life they love. Carol is a coach, a speaker, best-selling author and business owner.
Carol followed her path to go to school, get degrees, and go down a life path -- when she realized she that this path was doing what was important to others vs what was important to her. Carol realized that the thread in her career was teaching and helping others with their careers and inspiring and motivating women, and sh...2021-12-0856 minReal Job TalkEpisode 75: How to give notice at a new jobWe have a listener question!!! We got a great email from a global listener that we had to record right away (we sent them the raw recording). The letter was as follows:
Hi ladies
I have recently discovered this podcast and it has already helped me so much.
I am a lawyer. I began working at a firm run by two people that I know very well and have a long (20 year) history with. Prior to accepting this role, I had another 6 week stint at a smaller law firm, but left that role to...2021-11-2310 minReal Job TalkEpisode 74: New Job ChecklistYou're starting a new job. Congrats! OK, now what's next?
Every company does onboarding differently: some bigger companies tend to have more structured onboarding and some start-ups less so. HR onboarding is more about paperwork, but the true onboarding that we are talking about is how the existing team and managers can help new people understand what’s needed in the role, how to do the job and how to maneuver around the company.
First thing in a new job is to meet with your manager to get the lay of the land and talk ab...2021-11-0920 minReal Job TalkEpisode 73: Job search and resume tips from a recruiter - with Michele OlivierWelcome Michele, resume coach, recruiter, and LI influencer extraordinaire. Michele is a seasoned global HR professional who is the owner of O&H Consulting. We brought Michele to RJT to talk about resumes, job searches and to give insider tips around job seeking.
Michele’s big picture resume rules:
The top one-third of your first page needs to answer who you are, what you want, and why does the reader care?
Depending on which ATS (applicant tracking system) we’re working on, we either see the actual resume you uploaded, or we get a parsed version whic...2021-10-2656 minReal Job TalkEpisode 72: Divisiveness at workThis week we talk about divisiveness at work. Divisive opinions at work are an example of divisiveness in the world ... people seem to be on one side or the other of so many issues, and we can’t remember a time when people have been so polarized.
We love the saying “Let’s agree to disagree." -- thank you David Campt for going deeper on that with us in Episode 52 -- and we try to use it whenever possible.
By diviseness, we’re talking about when there are different camps who don’t come together - or peopl...2021-10-1225 minReal Job TalkEpisode 71: When a Colleague QuitsWe have a letter from a listener who doesn’t think they reacted properly when a colleague quit. They reacted with a big “Really? Why? I thought you liked it here!?!” and then felt like a bad colleague when the person looked visibly uncomfortable and showed them that they’d overstepped.
For the colleague, we referenced Episode 55 “The Art of Quitting”.
We discussed why the person might have quit that had nothing to do with the workplace or were reasons they didn’t want to share. Things like a personal illness or illness of a family member...2021-09-2810 minReal Job TalkEpisode 70: Realities of working parents with Whitney CasaresWelcome to Real Job Talk, Whitney Casares- the author of the Working Mom Blueprint, pediatrician, mom, and supporter of moms in the workplace through her community at www.modernmommydoc.com. We invited Whitney to join us to talk about the realities of being a working mom, and also to discuss how managers, teams, and companies can support working parents.
The pandemic has shed a light on the experience of being a working mom, and has given us a behind-the-scenes look at all of the things parents are juggling while also showing up at work. Whitney is the...2021-09-1454 minReal Job TalkEpisode 69: Getting Productive with Don KhouriWelcome, Don Khouri! Don is a PhD in Human and Organization Systems who works with leaders and individual contributors to build their presence, improve communication, and be more productive. It’s this last area where we’ve asked Don to join us and talk about his book, When to Say YES, to help our listeners learn more about being productive, especially in the workplace.
Don held a number of roles in the corporate world, mostly at Fidelity Investments, and for the last 12 years he’s been coaching leaders around productivity and leadership skills.
Don’s definiti...2021-08-3145 minReal Job TalkEpisode 68: Going Back to the OfficeThis episode is discussing the complex question of going back into the office as companies are beginning to open up their offices and asking workers to return. We talk about options around going back to work, questions to ask, obstacles, and how to communicate with your team around your availability.
The emotions around back to work are complicated. Talk with your manager before making a decision around what to do around back-to-office, no matter how uncomfortable that may be. You need to do what you have to do to keep yourself and your loved ones safe. Assuming...2021-08-1723 minReal Job TalkEpisode 67: Overcoming Fear and Doubt in your CareerFear and doubt come in so many forms, including imposter syndrome, self-deprecation, and holding yourself back in other ways. We’re here to talk about how to overcome these things in the workplace.
Kat comes from a position of normalizing fear and doubt and accepting them as a part of the human experience.
How do we recognize fear and doubt? Awareness and acceptance. It’s about “oh -- I recognize this! It's fear and doubt!” and then allowing ourselves to address and combat those thoughts to take away the power we give to them. We have to...2021-08-0329 min
Real Job TalkEpisode 66: Being a Woman in Tech with Kat CosgroveWelcome to Real Job Talk, Kat Cosgrove, Staff Developer Advocate from Pulumi. We invited Kat to join us to talk about her experience as a technical woman in the technology industry. After a conference, Kat tweeted about being hit on in the virtual hallways, and Liz and Kat Troyer talked about how people really need to be more aware of appropriate behavior in professional settings.
Kat started as an engineer, taught at a bootcamp, and then found her way to being a Developer Advocate for the last 2 years.
Kat tells us how she’s always as...2021-07-1347 minReal Job TalkEpisode 65: Telling Your StoryCheck out our new tagline!!! We’re evolving, and while we loved our water cooler, it’s been sitting dormant since March, 2020. Real Job Talk is the podcast for mid-career professionals looking for practical career guidance.
Today we’re talking about vulnerability and telling our stories, inspired by some training Liz has been doing. A great way to get to know someone and to hear how other people have found success is to ask “How did you get to where you are today?”
Many people believe that careers happen to people vs people managing their own career...2021-06-2917 minReal Job TalkEpisode 64: Build Solid Professional RelationshipsToday’s episode is about building and deepening professional relationships at work, and small changes that can have a big impact on your work relationships, personal brand, and people’s experience working with you.
Tip #1. No ghosting. We discuss the person, who we never know if they are going to show up to our meetings, and therefore we wonder how much they respect our time. The key here is to look at your calendar regularly to avoid double bookings and no-shows, and to let someone know AHEAD OF TIME (vs after the fact) when you won’t make t...2021-06-1525 minReal Job TalkEpisode 63: Pivot to Win with Jordan BabineauxWelcome to Real Job Talk, Jordan Babineaux! Jordan was an NFL player for 10 years, is a sports broadcaster, runs serveral businesses, is receiving his MBA, and is a true entrepreneur. Jordan joins us to talk about his new book, Pivot to Win, and we ask him all about pivoting towards both success and happiness.
Jordan defines leadership as being a facilitator: how do I bring the best out of other people and get different people aligned to the same goal? Jordan sees routine as a key to his success and it helps him to focus and avoid...2021-06-0137 minReal Job TalkEpisode 62: How can you tell if your workplace is toxic?May is mental health awareness month, and we want to tell you to take care of yourself. Yes, you hear us talk about self care, but we also want you to know that you’re not alone and that your employer may have resources for you.
Today we’re talking about toxicity and how to tell if a work environment is healthy or toxic. Liz has a coaching client who is looking for a new role after leaving a toxic culture, and she wants to make sure she ends up in a better place. Of course, the bran...2021-05-1834 minReal Job TalkEpisode 61: Managing up with Mary AbbajayWelcome to Real Job Talk, Mary Abbajay! Mary is a speaker, consultant, and trainer who works with managers and teams to create productive workplaces. She also teaches at the university and post-graduate level, speaks at numerous conferences, and is an active volunteer. Mary is the CEO of the Careerstone Group, and the author of Managing Up: How to Move Up, Win at Work, and Succeed with Any Type of Boss.
Mary wants to make the world a better place by making the workplace a better place. We asked Mary what the biggest challenge has been in the...2021-05-0443 minReal Job TalkEpisode 60: Communicating Globally with Raúl Sánchez and Dan BullockWelcome to Real Job Talk to NYU Professors Raúl Sánchez and Dan Bullock. Raúl and Dan teach a the Center for International Studies and write for the Wall Street Journey while also conducting training on international communication for organizations such as The UN and International Student group. Dan and Raúl wrote the book How to Communicate Effectively with Anyone, Anywhere to help people communicate better across geographical, language, and cultural boundaries.
How did the book come up? Well, one night over Arby’s, Raúl, Dan, and Raúl’s twin (and book artist) Ro...2021-04-1953 minReal Job TalkEpisode 59: Follow Your Energy with Chris GaitherWelcome back, Chris Gaither! Chris is a leadership coach, writer, and "career pivoter extraordinaire." Chis is somebody who listens to his own energy to make career decisions. Chris has tailored his coaching practice to work with sustainability leaders, an area where he is knowledgable, passionate, and impactful. We are talking with Chris about listening to and following our personal energy in both career decisions and life. Welcome, Chris!
Since visiting us over a year ago, Chris feels like he took the craziness of 2020 to reflect and build a coaching/leadership practice that he loves. He has divorced...2021-04-0652 minReal Job TalkEpisode 58: Look out for your career as you get started with Bob and Nick SlaterWelcome to our first podcast guests who are a father-son duo, Bob and Nick Slater, authors of the new book _Look Out Above!_This book is aimed at helping people enter the job market, pivot in their careers, and make the most out of the first few years of their careers. Bob is a professor from UNC & Duke, and his son, Nick, is an entrepreneur.
We ask Bob and Nick about critical workplace skills that they teach; these are actually soft skills, not something that you’re taught in school. The book is aimed at teaching you ho...2021-03-2352 minReal Job TalkEpisode 57: Recruiters: understanding the different typesToday we’re talking about the world of recruiters: who they are and what you can expect from them. We’re deep diving into types of talent professionals to help you navigate your job search in a more educated way.
Types of Recruiters
Retained. Given money up front to start a search (fees are 25-40% of 1st year compensation). Usually very connected, know their industry, and able to deliver good results. Paid a retainer, some in the middle and some at the end. It’s about quality over quantity and expertise. They have exclusive relationships with t...2021-03-0929 minReal Job TalkEpisode 56: Real Leadership with Jennifer MackinLIZ AND KAT ARE OFFERING CAREER COACHING!!! Our intro rate is $100/hr for BOTH of us! Email realjobtalk@gmail.com to schedule a 1:1 unrecorded session.
Welcome Jennifer Mackin, author of the book Leaders Deserve Better, and a trainer who helps managers become better leaders. Jennifer considers herself a change agent dedicated to helping businesses and leaders be change agents for the greater good.
2020 forced leaders to reflect and change, which became a tough opportunity for Jennifer. She had to pivot from face-to-face to virtual, and has had to embrace change.
We asked Jennifer...2021-02-2346 minReal Job TalkEpisode 55: The Art of QuittingQuitting is an art- there’s a right way (leave with your head high and relationships strong) and a wrong way (think bull in a china shop or loud ranting with everyone breathing a sigh of relief when you’re gone) to quit your job. In this episode, Liz and Kat walk you through the delicate process of quitting, how to deal with a counter offer, and how to handle your final days at a job.
This episode was inspired by a friend of Kat’s who was quitting his job and was ready to give his almost...2021-02-0934 minReal Job TalkEpisode 54: Envisioning 2021 with L’areal LipkinsWelcome to L’areal Lipkins, a sales trainer and expert in goal setting, vision boards, and how to make your goals a reality by adopting the right plan and mindset.
L’areal does NOT believe in SMART goals (specific, measurable, attainable, relevant and timebound) , and we get right into it asking about her approach to goal setting. L’areal is a “recovering SMART goals user,” and she pivoted to her CLARITY method when she saw clients coming back year after year with the same goals. CLARITY stands for:
C- crystal clear
L- linked to a bigger g...2021-01-2654 minReal Job TalkEpisode 53: Landing a real job in this virtual world with Jason LevinWelcome Jason Levin, founder and CEO of Ready, Set, Launch. We’re talking with Jason about launching a job search in a virtual world.
Jason grew up with a happy family whose lives changed dramatically when his father lost the only job he had ever had in New York's garment district. Suddenly Jason and his brothers were the kids getting free lunch in school, and the family was struggling. Jason was always the person who would help with mock interviews and resume review in school; later his MBA program asked him to be a coach, and that be...2021-01-1245 minReal Job TalkEpisode 52: Coming Together to End 2020 with David CamptDr. David Campt is a national expert on inclusion and intergroup dialogue. David has worked with groups from large corporations to the White House, and has appeared on The Daily Show. He speaks about about how we talk with each other, and how to help people come together. In 4th grade, David had a teacher tell him that “People are more alike than they are different,” and in his critical work, David shows audiences how to use dialogue in order to connect and come together.
David tells us about how the world has changed over the last 20 year...2020-12-2254 minReal Job TalkEpisode 51: Imposter Syndrome with Joep PiscaerThis week we welcome Joep Piscaer, who has grown his career by moving up the ranks in a technical organization, from sys admin to CTO, and now is an independent consultant focused on creating content in the devops space.
Throughout his career, Joep has struggled with Imposter Syndrome, and despite numerous indications to the contrary, he has had to work on how to control his impulses to hold himself back. We invited him on for this very open conversation to help listeners understand that imposter syndrome can happen to any and all of us.
Joep’s...2020-12-0834 minReal Job TalkEpisode 50: Quitting your job to balance multiple jobs, multiple roles with Adam BertramThis week we welcome Adam Bertram, aka Adam the Automator. Adam wrote a post called “I told my boss I quit and……” which went viral, so we invited Adam to join us. Our goal for having Adam on RJT is to learn from his personal journey of career discovery.
Adam’s a tech pressional/sys admin, blogger, and content creator.
We asked Adam to share his journey before he quit. At the beginning of Adam’s career, he hopped jobs for money. He started a side hustle selling used books on Amazon. With the freedom of making ex...2020-11-2454 minReal Job TalkEpisode 49: Should I quit my job to be a consultant?We have a letter!!! Our writer (Ready to Be Independent) asks about being a consultant: what does it take, what do they need to do, and what is the pros and cons list? We break it down.
Some of the things to consider as you're looking at making a leap like this: to consider are: inconsistent revenue as a consultant vs a regular paycheck and salary. What’s your brand and what do you uniquely offer? Are you ok with instability? If you’re a consultant, you’re a small business person and you have to assess your r...2020-11-1034 minReal Job TalkEpisode 48: Navigating Politics at WorkThe US election is heating up, and Liz and Kat want to help you navigate politics, voting, and all related topics at work.
First of all, know your company’s rules around voting and if you have time off to vote. Make a plan to vote! And do it within your employer’s rules.
Know that social media is public, and if you are choosing to be political on social media, our advice is to be as minimalist as your integrity allows and you feel that the situation calls far. Being aware of what you’re put...2020-10-2714 minReal Job TalkEpisode 47: Dare to LeadBoth Kat and Liz are BIG fans of Brene Brown’s Dare to Lead. This book is about leadership; we adhere to the belief that we’re all leaders of our own lives and careers, and so we think that this book applies to everyone.
Having the ability to "rumble," whether it’s in your personal or work life, will help you authentically connect with people around you to solve hard problems and come together with shared goals.
Brene Brown defines rumble like this:
A rumble is a discussion, conversation, or meeting defined by a c...2020-10-1341 minReal Job TalkEpisode 46: Getting Federal Job Results with Corliss JacksonOn this episode, we welcome to Corliss Jackson, the founder and CEO of Federal Job Results and author of Cracking the Federal Job Code. Corliss is a speaker and panelist, and her company mission it to help people find jobs with the US federal government.
Corliss started as a consultant after college; she decided that she wanted to work for the government but didn’t know how. She figured it out, and she learned a lot about what to do -- and what not to do in the process. She also realized that many other people would ne...2020-09-2951 minReal Job TalkEpisode 45: Take a vacationVacation is important for relaxation and connection, even in times of COVID. Our goal is to encourage you to take vacation, especially during this strange and difficult period.
It takes trust and confidence to take time away from your desk, but we want you to unplug and take vacation, even if it means you aren’t leaving your house.
Plan vacation around times when your job/group aren’t busy so you don’t end up having to log on. For example, if you’re in sales, plan it for the 1st week of the quarter...2020-09-1521 minReal Job TalkEpisode 44: Surviving Business Travel with Stephen AndertOn this episode, we’re learning more about traveling for work. Despite most of us not travelling now, we all have had to travel before, and some of us are slowly starting to travel again for work. Our guest, Stephen Andert, has taken business travel and turned it into an art form. His book, Surviving Business Travel, helps others get the most out of their business travel. (Use code REALJOB for 15% off on the book.)
Stephen is an introvert who has learned about public speaking and found ways to enjoy being out of his comfort zone. He is...2020-09-0135 minReal Job TalkEpisode 43: Title: Building your personal brand and evolving with Carla BirnbergWelcome to RJT, Carla Birnberg! Carla is a friend of both Kat and Liz, and today we’re talking with Carla about her fascinating career journey as a solo-prenuer, marketer, writer and blogger. Carla has SO much information to offer, and she’s a wonderful example of someone who hustles and creates opportunities through talent, grit and ingenuity.
Carla’s career was never planned. At the beginning of her career, she thought she would go into academia, and she landed a job at the University of North Carolina. Unfortunately, that job got eliminated before she even started! This...2020-08-1849 minReal Job TalkEpisode 42: How to prepare for a job interviewThis episode, we caught ourselves; we talk a lot about interviewing, but we forgot to talk about how to prepare for an interview. Get out your notebook and listen closely …. this episode will teach you how to be prepared for your interviews.
Behavioral Interviewing became popular about 25 years ago, and is based on the assumption that past performance will predict future performance. It’s usually based on competencies that come out of the responsibilties of the job, and the interviewers will each cover a different part of those competencies with you.
The key to behavioral inte...2020-08-0435 minReal Job TalkEpisode 41: Ask for what you need at workWe recorded this episode to help people ask for what they need at work, without also feeling like they are asking for too much, impairing their career, or being high maintenance.
We start with the request, which we hear coming up quite a bit, to continue to work from home because of health or childcare concerns with the virus when your company wants you to come back to the office. Many companies are built around having junior employees learning from more senior ones, and the expecation in many companies have been that employees will return as soon...2020-07-2126 minReal Job TalkEpisode 40: Deep Listening with Oscar TrimboliDeep listening affects every area of your life, including creating stronger relationships at work and at home. Our guest, Oscar Trimboli, is a former technology exec who has dedicated his life to helping over 10M people become deep listeners.
Growing up an immigrant, Oscar had to learn how to listen to different languages by paying attention to body language and other ways to understand what people were saying. In his corporate gigs, Oscar became known for asking “Have we asked a customer?” Had the company actually listened?
Oscar is trying to get 100M deep listeners arou...2020-07-071h 01Real Job TalkEpisode 39: Managing UpWe’re excited to talk in this episode about reverse management, or managing up. We’re going to get into it, and talk about how to work with a manager, how to talk with your manager, and how to excel even when your manager isn’t very good at managing...
We discuss how sometimes people don’t manage up well because they don’t want to be a burden, but rule #1 is to communicate and sometimes over-communicate. A CC on an email is an FYI, and it helps your boss have the information they may need.
When a m...2020-06-2330 minReal Job TalkEpisode 38: Write a Resume that Gets Past the Screeners with Katrina KibbenWe welcome Katrina Kibben in this episode of Real Job Talk to talk with us. We're always glad to find another Kat! Katrina is a writer and recruiting professional who has built Three Ears Media around her interests in communication and marketing to teach companies how to excel around employment branding, writing for recruiting, and representing themselves with authenticity.
Katrina came into recruiting by accident after an executive met her while she was tutoring his daughter. She took her writing background and wrote copy around recruiting. Now she spends the majority of her time teaching recruiters to...2020-06-0950 minReal Job TalkEpisode 37: Building teams, connections, trust, and card games with Jason TreuJason Treu talks with Liz & Kat about building teams, trust, social wealth, and his game, Cards Against Mundanity.
This week Liz and Kat welcome Jason Treu, author of the book Social Wealth, whose goal is to help teams get to know each other. He gives us his advixe to building a career with real connections, including telling us about his game that's designed to help you start making those connections, Cards Against Mundanity, .
Jason started his career in Silicon Valley, working with companies like Apple and eBay. He saw great leaders doing all types of...2020-05-2753 minReal Job TalkEpisode 36: Find a “career peer” for collaboration and support: Emily Kurze and Nate KartchnerCan you find a "career peer" - a partner for deep work - at work? Emily Kurze and Nate Kartchner met at work and began to collaborate on projects, on personal and professional growth, and eventually came together with a business collaboration. They combine personal and business growth in their own podcast, Good. Working. Order.
This week Emily Kurze and Nate Kartchner talk with Kat. Emily and Nate are colleagues and friends who met at work and now collaborate as business partners.
Nate: Has been working for 15 years in marketing, mostly in digital.
Emily...2020-05-1257 minReal Job TalkEpisode 35: Coworkers and communication: live coaching session with Vince WoodIn this episode, Liz and Kat tackle some questions about communications with coworkers in this session with Vince Wood, a Houston-based IT professional and podcaster.
Vince brought to the session a few questions and scenarios around effective communication within a team, taking into account their different and unique perspectives and experiences. We also talk about the general challenges of working with others and how to optimally communicate with others in this episode.
Vince framed his overall problem this way: bringing people to work together effectively is a challenge, specifically getting a team to gel to...2020-04-2840 minReal Job TalkEpisode 34: How a small tech company competes for talent: with Scott LoughmillerHow does a tech company in San Francisco compete with Google & Facebook to get and keep the best talent? Kat and Liz talk with Scale Computing's Scott Loughmiller.
This week we welcome Scott Loughmiller, the chief product officer and co-founder of Scale Computing. He is a serial start-up person who has focused his career on engineering management. He has worked with his co-founders at Scale several times, and has hired a lot of employees many times over. Scott has passion around finding and retaining a great team, and he has a great track record of doing just...2020-04-1448 minReal Job TalkEpisode 33: Taking a sabbatical wherever it leads with Becky ElliottThis week, we're doing a live career coaching session. We welcome Becky Elliott, a technologist and writer who is looking at what comes next in her career.
The career coaching session was recorded live and unscripted, but this time we weren't talking about a book or specific topic - we were tackling a real person thinking out loud about where they are and where they want to go. We thank Becky for coming on the show with vulnerabilty and honesty. The episode was recorded during a Stay At Home order in March 2020 from our homes in California...2020-03-3145 minReal Job TalkEpisode 32: Working from homeThis week, we talk about working from home. A lot of people are suddenly working from home because of the current coronavirus pandemic. A lot of teams are suddenly 100% remote in cultures where this wasn't a normal pratice, and a lot of managers are suddenly trying to manage those teams.
We're also sending our thoughts to those who are feeling displaced, uncertain, underemployed, or even unemployed. Keeping things together and at home is going to help all of us.
Both Liz and Kat have worked from home for many years. We have some things we've...2020-03-1733 minReal Job TalkEpisode 31: Career pivot away from corporate to podcasting with Adrienne GarlandThis episode we welcome Adrienne Garland to RJT. Adrienne is the CEO of She Leads Media, building a community of women entrepreneurs, starting with a successful conference and now adding a new podcast network.
Adrienne started her career in one of the most "corporate" parts of corporate America in investment banking and finance in the 1990s. She switched to marketing, media entertainment and technology. She worked her way up through the marketing org chart, working at places like PR Newswire and Price Waterhouse Coopers.
At PWC, Adrienne had the best career on paper, but it...2020-03-1048 minReal Job TalkEpisode 30: Resilience and mentoring with Phil StrazzullaThis week we welcome Phil Strazzulla. Phil has an interesting journey as a startup CEO, speaker, educator, mentor, and investor. Phil always knew he wanted to go into business and be a CEO, but what happens when that career vision seems stalled out before you really get started?
Phil started in college interning at a start-up, and always wanted to be an entrepreneur. He went into investment banking after school -- but that career goal seemed far away when he got laid off in 2008. At that point, what do you do? Phil was able to do some...2020-02-2536 minReal Job TalkEpisode 29: Flat, Fluid, and Fast with Brynne KennedyWelcome Brynne Kennedy - author, entrepreneur and congressional hopeful for CA’s 4th district.
Brynne started Topia- an HR and talent resources software company that she grew to a global company with 100s of staff, wrote a book called Flat, Fluid, and Fast and and now is running for Congress!
What can companies do to mobilize the workforce. Look at developing a portfolio of skills and marketing them across different verticals. If companies hire for skills, they can open up their definitions of employment and give more people opportunities to people in all stages of th...2020-02-1142 minReal Job TalkEpisode 28: Overlapping circles of career and parenting with Kim LindauerThis week we welcome Kim Lindauer. Kim is the owner of Kim’s Gym and founder of My Venn Life, her new endeavor built to help and support moms who are entrepreneurs.
After 18 years of owning her own gym, Kim started My Venn Life to support other moms who own businesses. She saw a lot of support for male business owners, and wanted to support business people who are also moms in a space that was tuned to them. It's a community of like-minded women to support each other in building their businesses.
Moms can’t tu...2020-01-2835 minReal Job TalkEpisode 27: Setting Career and Work-Related GoalsWelcome to Season 2 of Real Job Talk! We are kicking off this season talking about setting goals at the beginning of the year.
First up in this episode, Kat and Liz both describe their process to set career and job-related goals.
Kat’s process has been built over the last 10 years and includes a year-end completion process. Acknowledging the wins and the emotions around the goals that were not met, and then putting them all to bed.
Kat has an audio recording that she uses with her clients to walk through a completion pr...2020-01-1432 minReal Job TalkEpisode 26: Leadership, training, and neurodiversity with Sarah Noll WilsonThis episode, Kat and Liz talk about leadership development, theater training, and neurodiversity with Sarah Noll Wilson.
Sarah is a leadership consultant and also a proponent for working with neurodiverse people. Sarah started her career in leadership and teaching as a camp counselor and ropes course instructor. After a degree in theater performance and education, she took a day job in the insurance industry, and began to connect the dots in how to use creative drama in learning and development in a corporate context.
Why do good people become crappy managers? Because we don’t gi...2019-12-1746 minReal Job TalkEpisode 25: Adaptive Workplaces with Chris CreelCan you organize a company around collaborative projects and break free from your org chart? Liz and Kat talk with author Chris Creel, who says yes!
Chris Creel, a technologist and futurist, is the author of Adaptive: Scaling Empathy and Trust to Create Workplace Nirvana. Adaptive is the result of years of research and re-thinking about how work gets down through collaboration and organizational design.
The Adaptive project started in 2013, when Chris was tasked with improving productivity by 10-fold. He began thinking about what type of organization could adapt to the technology advances that were...2019-12-0341 minReal Job TalkEpisode 24: Surviving business travel with Erick BronsonAlways wanted to be a road warrior with lots of travel to faraway places and with super status at hotels and airlines? The real thing is not so glamourous. We looked far and wide for a great guest to talk about the ups and downs of work travel, and found him in Liz’s house! In this episode, Liz’s husband Erick joins us to talk about his life traveling in tech sales.
Erick has been a b2b software salesperson at both large and smaller companies, both sales direct to customers as well as working with dist...2019-11-1942 minReal Job TalkEpisode 23: Listener Question: What do you do if your boss is unethical?We have a letter! This one addresses an issue that happens too often in the workplace: an unethical boss from a friend who signed off as, “My Boss is a Fraud With a Nice Car”. Ugh.
The bottom line for our friend: it’s time for a new job!
People act funny for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes it means something is going on that is not being communicated with the staff. If you sense something shady, do your research and see if it might be a bigger company issue like bankrupcy or acquisition.
If s...2019-11-0525 minReal Job TalkEpisode 22: Coaching through change with Tracy AsamoahLiz and Kat talk today with Tracy Asamoah, a coach and psychiatrist who works with people around life transitions. If you’re stuck, she will move you forward in a calm, mindful way.
Tracy’s background: she describes her journey from academic/non-profit work as a psychiatrist to private practice to a coach, mostly working with women, focusing around transitioning in their life and career.
Tracy and her partners are building an unusual practice, combining the skills of physicians, psychiatrists and coaches together.
We talk about career transitions. First, Tracy gets to the bott...2019-10-2224 minReal Job TalkEpisode 21: Active ListeningWelcome! We’re talking about active listening in the workplace this week.
What do we mean? In Active Listening, the listener fully listens, contemplates, and responds. The more we can actively listen, the more we can practice and the better we get.
As a manager, active listening empowers employees and supports them in coming up with solutions, which helps employees thrive and builds trust. If instead you aren't really listening, you're either not taking advantage the value of the rest of your team, or you're doing most of the talking and just using the rest of...2019-10-0832 minReal Job TalkEpisode 20: Career change perspective with Andrew MillerHow do you go about considering and executing a job change? Liz & Kat talk with technologist Andrew Miller about his thoughtful process: when to leave, what to go towards, playing to your strengths, taking sabbaticals, and activating your network.
Andrew is a technologist based out of South Carolina. He started as a consultant, implementing IT systems, and then went into pre-sales consulting. He then joined the fast-growing Silicon Valley startup Rubrik where he managed a team of other technologists. After taking some time off, he is now working for Pure Storage, another Silicon Valley leader.
...2019-09-2443 minReal Job TalkEpisode 19: Building a Human-First Culture - Carlos HidalgoWelcome Carlos!!
Carlos tells us his background from non-profit to marketing to consulting. He talks through how giving it all to his business and not nourishing his relationships led to burnout, which made him re-start his career and write The UnAmerican Dream.
What is a human first culture? Thinking about employees as people, not assets. We think about what causes behavior, and then figure out what drives people to bring out their best. When you set expectations, care about people and trust them, you bring out the best. People who don’t thrive in your cu...2019-09-1037 minReal Job TalkEpisode 18: Conferences, Parties, and EventsIn this episode we’re talking about the fun stuff at work. Parties, conferences….the not in the office “fun times”. What do I need to remember- what’s the difference between having fun and too much fun?
Conferences, off-site gatherings, Club/kickoffs.
General rules across all off-site/off-hours rules:
IT”S A WORK EVENT! Keep your “work mask” on. Keep behavior appropriate and professional.
Alternate water and cocktails
Don’t drink too much-
Network- think of it as an opportunity to get to know other people at your company. Not just your frie...2019-08-2537 minReal Job TalkEpisode 17: Oversharing at WorkWe’re people, and we bring our lives to work, but what are the lines and what can we share and not share at work?
Bottom line: be yourself, but maybe you should be your work self. Try not to let your personal life affect your work product.
We break it down into three categories: Health, Relationships, and Family.
Health:
We all have our own filters, and your health issues may bring up issues for others. You going on about health issues can make a co-worker feel badly for cutting you of...2019-08-1332 minReal Job TalkEpisode 16: Building Effective Teams with J. Mike SmithWelcome to Liz and Kat’s former boss, J. Mike Smith from BackWest Consulting! We invited Mike on to talk about teams, building teams, what makes good teams, and how to be good team member.
First, Mike breaks down for us the difference between teams and work groups. What are the interdependencies? Building a goal, vision and figure out what the team is trying to do?
Process of building a team- Mike calls it the Road Trip. 1. Figure out destination. 2. Figure out milestones 3. Who does what? 4. How do we want to work together?...2019-07-3045 minReal Job TalkEpisode 15: Questions to ask in a job interviewA lot of the job interview is other people asking you questions. But we've always told you that you should be asking them questions as well! But our bad -- we tell people to ask questions, but we didn’t help them figure them out what to ask. Oops!
This epsiode takes you through some of our thoughts and advice around making the interview a two-way street.
Look at your must-have list that you made after you heard episode #2, and ask questions that make sure your must have lists are met.
Listen to th...2019-07-1627 minReal Job TalkEpisode 14: Mindfulness at WorkAlexis Pokorny is our guest for this epsiode. Alexis’ background in sales at Cisco, and how she turned around a team using mindfulness and how she rolled out a mindfulness program for Cisco’s 70,000 employees. This program became her passion, and she launched Open Deltas to help more teams incorporate mindfulness into companies from mom and pop shops to Fortune 50.
We ask Alexis for her goals of Open Deltas. She helps people see that the ways they are working isn’t sustainable.
How does Alexis structure her day to work smart? She focuses on 3 high priori...2019-07-0243 minReal Job TalkEpisode 13: Tips for New ManagersOur Resources for New Managers page
Listener question! Yay!!!
Today we answer a listener's questions about becoming a new manager, and how to go from individual contributor to manager without looking like a newbie.
We discuss the potential lack of development opportunities for new managers, and how to learn how to managing people and being someone your team will look up to and respond to.
First, do you want to be a manager? Do you want to be dealing with the people stuff?
If you do, how do you...2019-06-1851 minReal Job TalkEpisode 12: Imposter syndrome, risks, and self-reflection with Amy LewisWelcome Amy Lewis, aka @commsninja! Amy is an incredible influence marketer in the tech world, and we’re so excited for her to join us to talk about her experience, and our topic du jour- Imposter Syndrome.
Amy shares about public speaking being a trigger for Imposter Syndrome. We talk about how Imposter Syndrome kicks in when we’re being spotlighted for our expertise, and how we feel like an imposter at different times in our mastery of a new topic.
We talk about the moment of risk taking, and how you feel like your stom...2019-06-0445 minReal Job TalkEpisode 11: Negotiating Your OfferDo you talk about compensation in the job talk process?
Quick answer- YES! Don't game the process- be clear on what you want.
Holding back information puts you at a disadvantage with your offer- it will end up with low results until they know what you expect.
Answer the question with what you WANT to make- what it will take for you to sign on the bottom line.
How do you find out what you're worth? Ask ex-colleagues, do research online....and look at the whole package and the whole package...2019-05-2139 minReal Job TalkEpisode 10: Surviving a layoffOur goal with this episode is to help you prepare for a layoff, to know what to look for before it happens, to be ready for it, to leave your current role gracefully, and how to go about a post-layoff search.
Before the layoff:
Follow your company news, and look for signs the company, or your group, isn't doing well. Listen for indicators like, "We're phasing out your product", or know if there is a scandal.
Update your resume, start networking, think about what your "must have" list will be, and listen to Episodes 2,3, and 5.
...2019-05-0733 minReal Job TalkEpisode 9: Guest: Chris Gaither - Burnout Advice Around Reinventing YourselfLiz and Kat introduce Chris (who Liz has known forever!).
We talk about human sustainability and reflection on staying healthy within the work that you do. We discuss feeling stuck and working past it.
Advice around listening to that "wise voice inside yourself". Our brains and bodies have a lot of wisdom in them, and we need to listen.
We talk about burnout, signs on burnout and how to listen to what's happening from our physical, emotional and happiness perspectives, and how to take care of ourselves.
Quiet time: great stuff...2019-04-1851 minReal Job TalkEpisode 8: Help! I Don't Know How To Ask For a Raise!Liz and Kat answer a listener question around how to ask for a raise. We talk about the best ways to approach the topic, how to read the situation before you ask, and ultimately how to be successful in getting yourself paid more for your job.2019-04-0932 minReal Job TalkEpisode 7: Asking friends for professional advice: what's appropriate?Have you been wondering if you've been taking too much of your friends' time asking questions in their area of expertise? Join Kat and Liz and their guests John Troyer and Dr. Michelle Natinsky as we talk about how to be friends with people with expertise in areas of our lives without overstepping.
A marketer, a shrink and 2 career coaches walk into a podcast.....what happens? You get practical advice about how to work with your friends without making it awkward and overstepping boundaries. Win-win! 2019-03-2144 minReal Job TalkEpisode 6: Ever worked with a real a-hole?Today Liz and Kat giggle and swear as we discuss a bunch of aspects of working with tough characters who “never do anything wrong”. Listen in for tips on how to sniff out assholes in the interview process, how to succeed on a team with them, how to coach them, and how to manage them.
After you listen, you should be able to navigate your relationships with assholes in the workplace with ease, grace and without losing your cool.2019-03-0731 minReal Job TalkEpisode 5: Even after the interview, you're still not doneYou aced the interview, but you don't have the new job until you accept the offer! Liz and Kat cover how you navigate in the period after the interview.
After the interview, should you send thank you notes?
Would a thank-you gift make you stand out?
When can you check back if you haven't heard anything?
What do you do if you realize you totally screwed up an answer?
What's the number one thing you should do while you're waiting to hear back from your dream job?
When do you give up?
Do people lose offers becaue of...2019-02-2138 minReal Job TalkEpisode 4: How do they find you? Secrets of the Sourcers with Angie VerrosThis week, Kat and Liz sit down with our very first guest- super sourcer and recruiter Angie Verros, owner of Vaia Talent and host of the recruiting conference Talent 42. Angie breaks down the difference between sourcing and recruiting, helps us figure out HOW that person got your name and contact information, and teaches us the different ways recruiters and sourcers work together. Join us to uncover more secrets behind the recruiting process, and learn how to make yourself more findable by the people who you want to contact you about your next career opportunity.2019-02-0744 minReal Job TalkEpisode 3: You Got the Interview...Now What?In this episode of Real Job Talk, Liz and Kat talk about how to prepare for a job interview. What do you do to get ready to go in and meet with a hiring manager, recruiter or team? Should you ask questions? Should you have examples ready? How do you study before the interview? What do hiring managers want to hear from you? How do you talk about your accomplishments without bragging? What are red flags you want to avoid?
After you listen to Episode 3, you will have the tools to nail your next interview, impress the...2019-01-2438 minReal Job TalkEpisode 2: Starting your new job searchIn this episode, Kat and Liz talk about finding a new job. So you're looking for a new job, right? First of all, are you sure you want to jump? There may be advantages to staying. Next, do you know what you're really looking for in a job?
It's a good time to take a good look in the mirror and talk to your informal board of advisors. What kinds of patterns do you have in your job history: Which jobs did you like? How did they play to your strengths? How did you find them? What...2019-01-1037 minReal Job TalkEpisode 1: Careers, jobs, and recruiters -- what's this podcast all about?Meet the hosts! Guest MC John Mark Troyer interviews the two hosts of the podcast, Liz Bronson and Kathleen Nelson Troyer, about their backgrounds and what this podcast is all about - jobs, careers, and what doesn't get said at the water cooler. They talk about their backgrounds, including stints in-house and indepdent recruiters, HR professionals, career coaches, and entrepreneurs).
John then leads our intrepid hosts on a lightning round of questions he has about getting a job and working with recruiters. We all are not very good at sticking to short answers for the lightning round...2018-12-2132 min