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Naughty vs Nice: A Christian Podcast66: Interview: Luke from What's the Point Anyway? PodcastFrom Secularism to Sacrament: Luke’s Journey into Faith and Fatherhood
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In this deeply personal and thought-provoking episode of Naughty vs Nice, Todd and Laura sit down with Luke McInnes from the What’s the Point Anyway podcast to explore his unexpected journey from secularism to Christianity—and eventually to Catholicism.
Luke shares how the upheaval of the pandemic opened the door to belief, how becoming a father transformed his understanding of love and responsibility, and how his search for truth led him through hard questions, uncomfortable realizations, and ultimately into the tradition...2025-07-141h 11
What's The Point Anyway?Episode #43 - From Military to Faith, a Life of Service with Jeff JonesA mutual contact on X reached out to me and recommended I get in touch with Jeff and I'm glad that I did. Jeff shares his journey from military service to civilian life, discussing the challenges and rewards of transitioning out of the military. He reflects on the connection between his faith and military values, the cultural shifts in attitudes towards Christianity, and the unique challenges faced by the Catholic Church in America. The discussion also touches on the importance of understanding life, the role of science in faith discussions, and the insights provided by Jeff's book, 'Unforeseeable: a...2025-07-131h 00What's The Point Anyway?Episode #42 - From Calvinist Pastor to Catholic Theologian: Dr. John Bergsma on the Church, the Kingdom, and the End of the World🔥 Show Notes:In this powerhouse episode of What’s the Point Anyway, host Luke sits down with Dr. John Bergsma—renowned biblical scholar, convert, and senior fellow at the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology—for a theologically rich, deeply personal, and spiritually moving conversation.🚨 You’ll hear:Dr. Bergsma’s journey from Dutch Calvinist pastor to Catholic theologianWhy sola scriptura and sola fide didn’t hold up under biblical scrutinyHow Catholicism reveals the Church as the Davidic KingdomA stunning breakdown of the Eucharist, the priesth...2025-06-261h 04What's The Point Anyway?Episode #41 - Wading Through Christian Cults And Finding Peace with Catherine GavinCatherine is a fellow Aussie who I was connected to via our mutual friend and former guest, Rick Welch. Though we both have come to similar conclusions on our Biblical studies, we recorded this episode right after I'd converted to the Catholic Church and it was interesting to 'compare notes' given Catherine grew up Catholic but has arrived at a different conclusion to myself.We spoke about the importance of understanding the spiritual implications of biblical knowledge, the role of authority in church dynamics, and the personal journeys that lead to shifts in belief. Catherine shares her...2025-06-171h 00What's The Point Anyway?Episode #40 - A walk through all the 'isms' with Ray Alex WilliamsAs I reach episode #40 in this series, I was fortunate enough to connect with Ray Alex Williams who may just be my most interesting guest yet.As the title suggests, this is an episode where we walk through just about every single 'ism' that you've ever heard of - and Ray has experienced all of them. Starting out in new atheism, then spending an decade in academia where his political views became typically left wing, he ended up venturing into transgenderism and identified as a female for a period of time. He was able to m...2025-05-301h 23What's The Point Anyway?Episode #39 - Finally Discussing the End Times with Todd from Naughty Vs NiceAnyone who has listened to this show for a while would have heard me talk about how much I've wanted to bring a guest on who is a Christian that believes we're living in the end times. Well I finally got my wish, because Todd who hosts the Podcast Naughty Vs Nice reached out to me after we'd had some debate. he was a great guy and we had a really fun chat here, despite our differences. Particularly given that in the week before our recording I had made the decision to become Catholic, meanwhile Todd holds to the...2025-05-161h 10What's The Point Anyway?Episode #38 - Davey Lloyd was a contestant on the Bachelor who died during a drug induced seizure, now he's rebuilding his life.I heard Davey's story when he appeared on Behind the Smile with one of my former guests Ash Butterrs and was very keen to bring him on for a chat. I recognised Davey because I'd seen his face on TV - a 3 time contestant on the reality TV show The Bachelor, he'd spent his teens, 20's and early 30's partying hard as an archetypical modern male. Chasing girls, doing lots of cocaine and any other addiction to provide a short term boost. But behind the visage, he knew he was covering some deeper issues and after literally dying and...2025-05-091h 42What's The Point Anyway?Episode #37 - The World of Gold & Silver with Eric YeungFor as long as I can remember, I've always been interested in financial markets and it was actually in the process of studying this that I really started to get interested in broader things like history, philosophy and faith. Anyone who is a skeptic and studies finance ultimately ends up being very interested in gold - the shiny yellow rock that has shaped empires for as long as man has been on the earth.I reached out to Eric Yeung, a Hong Kong based gold & silver investor who is one of the most prominent content producers on...2025-05-021h 00What's The Point Anyway?Episode #36 - Politics, Patriotism, American Exceptionalism and Theology with Steve AKA the American PirateThis conversation was a long time coming, with my guest someone who I had been told I had to get on the show quite some time ago and we've just struggled to line up schedules.Steve is someone who is the same as as me, but has lived a very full life - having spent time in prison in his early 20's after a long drug habit which became the turning point in his life. He's a proud MAGA American, but at the same time he's someone who is quite comfortable being critical of Trump and has...2025-04-251h 38What's The Point Anyway?Episode #35 - Discussing Catholic Apologetics with Elijah YasiAs guests who have been listening to recent episodes have noticed, I'm in the midst of a deep dive into Catholicism, so my guest today was a well renowned Catholic apologist Elijah Yasi.We started out by discussing how a Catholic faith impacts worldview and perspective on 'whats the point anyway' in a way which might be different to other Christian denominations. We delved into the complexities of church authority, the interpretation of early church writings, and the evolution of doctrine over centuries. We also discussed the role of church fathers, the implications of Vatican councils, and...2025-04-171h 07What's The Point Anyway?Episode #34 - Talking all things theology with my friend Chris DeguidoI became friends with Chris a couple of years ago and since that time, the two of us have constantly been bouncing ideas and questions off each other. Chris, like me, is a full preterist Christian so we are very aligned in our views but I'd like to think we both approach things with a high level of curiosity which means we're always challenging our currently held positions.This was a fun discussion which was centred around theology and the questions we're both grappling with. Chris spoke a lot about the Israel centric narrative of the Bible...2025-04-101h 28What's The Point Anyway?Episode #33 - Greg Chacon's tumultuous journey from being a teenage gangster to speaking in tongues & casting out demonsA few months ago a friend said to me that I need to reach out to this guy Greg Chacon, because he was a true unicorn in his theology with a crazy backstory. Greg lived as a gangster in his teenage years, getting kicked out of multiple schools and spending prolonged periods of time incarcerated. Then at 17 he began a journey of discover which ultimately led him to find God. In his worship of God, just like his life beforehand, he hasn't done anything in halves and is someone that you'd describe as being all in. He has a...2025-04-041h 50What's The Point Anyway?Episode #32 - Jenn Guskin on life as a CT survivor who experienced Epstein IslandNot that you'd hear about it in the mainstream news, but there's been lots of chatter over the past month about the release of the 'Epstein files' so I wanted to bring someone on to the show who could talk about that.Jenn is a prominent voice online as a survivor of child sex trafficking and she was all too willing to share her story with me. Like my other recent guest Jessica Ella, Jenn suffered from trauma induced memory loss as a result of her experiences but over the past decade has begun to piece together...2025-03-2842 min
ABC NRL DailyBeing Less Flash and Growing Stronger TogetherA couple of weekend winners on NRL Sunday. The Gold Coast Titans had to show their defensive resolve to beat the Knights and hooker Sam Verrills (32:57) reckons that's part of their plan to focus less on the flashy part of their game. Cronulla skipper Cam McInnes (2:50:50) steered his to an impressive win over South Sydney with the growing understanding between halves Braydon Trindall and Nicho Hynes a stand-out. Andrew Moore, Luke Lewis and John Gibbs also ran through the issues of the week in 6 Again (8:34), get to know Ryan Hoffman better (1:28:10), and chat with one of the game's great...2025-03-233h 37What's The Point Anyway?Episode #31 - Craig Harper from The You Project on the ever evolving nature of 'The Point'Craig Harper is somewhat of a local legend in my hometown of Melbourne and a man who hosts my mum's favourite podcast - The You Project. So as any good son would do, I reached out to him to get him on the show. Craig Harper is a successful businessman, speaker and podcaster - his current project has a whopping 1,830 episodes! He has spoken to all sorts of people, from celebrities to nobodies, and given the nature of his work he has a really valuable perspective on the question of what the point is anyway. He's 'looked under the...2025-03-201h 03What's The Point Anyway?Episode #30 - How Jessica Ella went from believing there is no point to finding her purposeA couple of months back I was chatting with a good friend of mine who listens to the show about any guests that I should try to bring on, and her immediate answer was to reach out to Jessica Ella.I'd never heard about Jess before, despite the fact that she lives locally but after listening to her story I agreed that I needed to chat to her!She's only in her mid 30's, but may have had the most tumultuous and difficult first 30 years of any one I've ever spoken to. As she said...2025-03-141h 00What's The Point Anyway?Episode #29 - Delving into the Conspiracy World and Battle for Control with Jim AteoiI reached out to Jim Ateoi (an alias) to come on the podcast after I had been following him on X for some time and found his perspectives quite novel and interesting.Jim is a quintessential 'truther' and he's very focused on how the world of geopolitics and culture comes together, and he has strong views on the power structure that are the 'apex players' as he calls them. I love a good discussion on conspiracies, though I usually find myself sitting somewhere in the middle between normies who follow the evening news and people who believe...2025-03-101h 08What's The Point Anyway?Episode #28 - Sean McMahon on how an agnostic half-Jewish free spirited musician became CatholicAfter interviewing Mesh Mesha on this podcast several weeks ago, I've been fascinated by how a Protestant Christian can become a Catholic. Catholicism gets a bad wrap in general, but as a 'Bible believing Christian' I've held a particular negative view towards the institution - having written about its deceptions and even spoken about them on this show many times.Speaking to Mesh with an open mind has made me realise that some of my presuppositions are very wrong. Now this does not mean that I am all of a sudden a Catholic, but it has forced...2025-03-031h 15What's The Point Anyway?Episode #27 - Learning about perspective the hard way with Ryan LeafIn 1998 Ryan Leaf was in contention to be the #1 pick in the NFL draft. In the end, Peyton Manning went 1 and Ryan Leaf went 2. Manning went on to become one of the most celebrated players in the games history, whereas Leaf was out of the game within 4 years and just over a decade later he spent several years in Montana state penitentiary.That journey of the extreme highs to extreme lows was ultimately what was required for Ryan to build himself into the person he is today. He's now a happily married father of 2, whose answer on...2025-02-2159 minWhat's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Growing up in Egypt and Becoming Catholic with Mesh MeshaUnlike most of us in the West who grow up in a predominately Christian society, Mesh grew up in the minority Coptic community in the majority Muslim country of Egypt. When she came to Australia as an adult, it was her husbands search for faith that led her to truly question what was ultimately a cultural belief system. She spent many years as a 'church nomad' and in recent years became convinced that the Catholic Church is indeed the true Church of God.Though I first became a believer within a Catholic Church, I have been a...2025-02-141h 23What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - What Dying Can Teach Us About Living With Sarah KerrMy background is broad, but around 5 years ago with no prior experience I did something which might seem very unusual and became involved in the death industry when I co-founded a funeral business. It's been one of the most rewarding businesses that I've been involved in and one of the great lessons has been that death can teach us so much about life.I wanted to bring a guest on the show who is an expert in this space and could share their experiences, so I reached out to one of the world leading death doulas Sarah...2025-02-0740 minWhat's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - From Fearing the End to Embracing the Now with Steve MaguaI sat down with the very charismatic Steve Magua from St Louis Missouri to get his perspectives on what the point is anyway. Steve grew up in the faraway land of Kenya, before migrating to America as an adult and becoming Christian at the age of 33. For many years, until as recently as 2019, he was preparing his family and followers for the 'end of the world' and preached about the coming tribulation which was going to be hell on earth for all who didn't come to faith in Jesus. Those who know Steve now are aware that his c...2025-01-311h 16What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Hashing Out Differences Over a Glass of Scotch with Nigel TaylorIn this engaging conversation, I sit down with Nigel Taylor to explore the complexities of faith, doubt, and personal belief. Nigel and I agree on a lot, but we disagree on lots too and often debate vigorously with each other. We decided that the best way to hash out these differences was over a glass of scotch and some honest conversation.We discussed Nigel's journey from Christianity to atheism and back, the role of scripture in navigating life's challenges, and the impact of personal experiences on faith. Nigel delves into near-death experiences, the importance of historical context i...2025-01-241h 37What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Jen Fishburne's Transition from Christianity to AtheismIn this conversation, Jen Fishburne shares her journey from a Christian upbringing to her eventual deconversion and exploration of what Luke described as existentialism. Jen returned to the Church in her 30's, then as she studied the Bible more she came to a preterist understanding and eventually an 'Israel Only' position, which is the idea that the Bible is a story that was ultimately about Ancient Israel and its relevance ceased in the first century.Following that, Jen ultimately became an atheist and in this process created the YouTube channel Answers From Jenesis where she shares more...2025-01-191h 11What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Gnostic Christianity, Self-Righteousness and Clearing the Logs From Our Eyes With Ward FenleyIn this conversation, Luke McInnes interviews Ward Fenley, exploring his background, family dynamics, and theological perspectives, particularly around preterism and the afterlife. Ward shares his personal journey of faith, the impact of his father's struggles with substance abuse, and how these experiences shaped his views on Christianity. The discussion delves into controversial topics such as the nature of eternal life, the role of love in faith, and critiques of modern evangelicalism. Ward and Luke explore the complexities of belief, the nature of God, and the importance of humility in faith. They discuss the psychological aspects of belief, the holiness...2025-01-091h 18What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - What is Demonic Possession with Kirsten Barton, Stephen Long & Mike Miano.Is there such thing as demons, and is demonic possession real? A former addict, satanist and gang member all give their diverse perspectives on a difficult topic!In this engaging roundtable discussion, Luke McInnes brings together three friends and past guests to explore the complex topic of demonic possession. Stephen Long, Mike Miano and Kirsten Barton all share their unique perspectives, ranging from traditional Christian views to psychological interpretations and cultural experiences. The conversation delves into the nature of demons, the spiritual realm, and personal experiences with possession, while also examining biblical accounts and their implications. The...2025-01-051h 16What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Homeschooling, Giants, Flat Earth, Short Seasons, Mudfloods and an Earth that Never Ends with Shelly SangreyIn this conversation, Luke McInnes interviews Shelly Sangrey, a homeschooling mother of 11 and host of There's No Place Like Home, who shares her journey from traditional Lutheran upbringing to a more personal faith, her experiences with homeschooling, and her love of digging deeply into conspiracy theories. The discussion delves into the education system, the rise of homeschooling, and the mainstreaming of alternative ideas, including everything from mudfloods and the moon landing to the flat earth theory. Shelly emphasizes the importance of questioning societal norms and seeking truth in a world filled with misinformation. Luke and Shelly discuss various themes...2024-12-281h 09What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Navigating the Perfect Storm of False Prophecy from Talmudic Judaism, Christian Zionism & Islam with Mike SullivanIn this conversation, Mike Sullivan, a Christian apologist, discusses his theological journey which began as a dispensational Bible College graduate and ended in full preterism. He explains the implications of his beliefs on the understanding of the Kingdom of God, spirituality, and the role of an apologist. The discussion also delves into the political ramifications of theology, the challenges of being a full preterist, and the connections between dispensationalism and global politics. Sullivan addresses anti-Semitism, the Talmud, and the interplay between Talmudic Judaism, Christian Zionism, and Islamic prophecy, warning of potential global conflict. He emphasizes God's sovereignty in a...2024-12-221h 13What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Three Lifelong Friends Discuss The Point of Life with Josh Kennedy & Tomi Johnston (Part Two)In this conversation, host Luke McInnes engages with two of his oldest and best friends Josh Kennedy and Tomi Johnston to explore the the big question what's the point anyway in a live conversation recorded over a few glasses of wine. They discuss how cultural reflections shape their views, the importance of relationships, and the evolving nature of their beliefs about purpose and success.The dialogue delves into faith, love, and the complexities of identity, ultimately leading to a rich exploration of what it means to live a fulfilling life in today's world.T...2024-12-141h 18What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Three Lifelong Friends Discuss The Point of Life with Josh Kennedy & Tomi JohnstonIn this conversation, host Luke McInnes engages with two of his oldest and best friends Josh Kennedy and Tomi Johnston to explore the the big question what's the point anyway in a live conversation recorded over a few glasses of wine. They discuss how cultural reflections shape their views, the importance of relationships, and the evolving nature of their beliefs about purpose and success.The dialogue delves into faith, love, and the complexities of identity, ultimately leading to a rich exploration of what it means to live a fulfilling life in today's world.T...2024-12-131h 10What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - A discussion on opposing views of the Nation of Israel with Jacob FronczakA little bit of background for listeners - I’ve had some vigorous debates on X with Jacob’s colleague Aaron Rich. We take a completely different interpretation on what the Bible says about Israel, and that has profound implications not only for doctrine but I’d also say it’s perhaps the most significant issue in the world right now with the Israel-Palestine conflict.In this conversation, Jacob Fronczak was all too willing to join me and discuss our differences where he shares his insights on Messianic Judaism, the significance of Israel in biblical prophecy, and the hope...2024-12-061h 15What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - A Focus on Healthy Soil with Tim MartinIn this conversation, Tim Martin discusses the importance of relationships in various aspects of life, including family, business, agriculture and theology. He emphasizes that the biblical narrative centers around covenant relationships and critiques mainstream interpretations of scripture. Tim also explores the intersection of faith and agriculture, advocating for a regenerative approach that mirrors healthy relationships in society. He addresses cultural reactions to Christianity and offers a nuanced perspective on politics, suggesting that the issues faced today transcend political solutions and require a deeper understanding of the gospel. Tim and Luke explore the intersection of faith, politics, and community. They...2024-11-281h 17
The Burros of Berea PodcastEpisode 223- Swapcast- What's The Point Anyway? with Luke McInnes- Rick Welch InterviewedHappy Thanksgiving! This week's episode is a Swapcast!Australian Podcast, What's The Point Anyway? with Luke McInnes interviews Rick Welch six weeks after the Hurricane Helene Disaster to discuss his life, his faith, and living in the aftermath of the storm.If you'd like to hear more episodes of What's The Point Anyway? You can click the link or get it anywhere you listen to podcasts: https://open.spotify.com/show/4iraDOUP8Cx31SNAbDQaDW?si=LpZ_bh-CTtu0j8oE6PzXmAIf you'd like to become a patron...2024-11-281h 25What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Coming Home to Yourself with Ash ButterssIn this conversation, Ash Butterss shares her transformative journey from addiction to recovery, emphasising the importance of self-discovery and personal growth. She reflects on her past struggles with substance abuse, the impact of her upbringing, and the defining moments that led her to seek change. Ash discusses the significance of family communication and the lessons learned throughout her recovery process, ultimately highlighting the journey of coming home to oneself. Ash shares her transformative journey from addiction to recovery, detailing her experiences with alcohol, the impact of a silent retreat, and the pivotal moment that led her to seek help...2024-11-221h 10What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Living to Love One Another with Rick WelchLuke McInnes speaks with Rick Welch fresh after his experience with Hurricane Helene and the profound impact on his life and community. They explore themes of love, faith, suffering, and the importance of human connection in times of crisis. Rick shares his journey from apathy to a deeper understanding of faith, the struggles he faced with doubt, and the lessons learned from experiencing suffering firsthand. The discussion also touches on theological reflections regarding the nature of goodness and evil, emphasizing the complexity of human experience and the necessity of community support. Rick discusses the inherent goodness of mankind, the...2024-11-171h 24What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Zach Davis on Influencing Society Through Reconciliation with GodIn this conversation, Zach Davis, a pastor and host of a popular YouTube channel, puts forward the idea that reconciliation with God through Jesus Christ is the point of all mans existence. He emphasizes the importance of a consistent Christian worldview in addressing contemporary issues, using racism and abortion as two such examples. Zach critiques the current political discourse and the church's role in society, advocating for evangelism and discipleship as means to effect cultural change rather than the top down change via government that so many hope for. He shares insights on the importance of family in faith...2024-11-101h 06What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - The Sacred Tension of Seeking Answers and Accepting Mystery with Stephen Broadford LongIn this conversation, Luke McInnes and Stephen Long explore the complexities of spirituality, identity, and belief. Stephen shares his journey from Christianity, to trying to be a gay Christian, to the Satanic Temple and now to a more agnostic and open-minded perspective. They discuss the nature of belief, the importance of awe in understanding the universe, and the mysteries surrounding religious narratives, particularly the resurrection of Christ. In this conversation, Stephen and Luke delve into various theological and personal topics, including perspectives on early church writings, eschatology, the nature of hell, and the complexities of sexual identity within a...2024-11-041h 19What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Eric LeMarque on Finding Redemption After LossSummaryEric LeMarque shares his incredible journey from being a professional athlete to surviving a life-threatening snowboarding accident that led to the loss of both his legs. He discusses the challenges he faced with addiction, the importance of redemption, and how his faith transformed his life. Eric emphasizes the significance of relationships and personal growth, as well as his aspirations to compete in the Paralympics.TakeawaysEric LeMarque's story is one of resilience and redemption.He emphasizes the importance of reaching out for help.The snowboarding...2024-10-291h 06What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Erika Geraerts on beauty, vipassana and a bookshelf full of unread booksSummaryIn this conversation, Luke and Erika Geraerts explore the complexities of life, identity, and entrepreneurship. Erika shares her journey from co-founding a successful beauty brand to navigating the challenges of personal and professional growth. They discuss the impact of financial challenges, the importance of self-reflection, and the transformative power of meditation. The conversation delves into spirituality, the nature of suffering, and the quest for a meaningful existence. In this conversation, Erika and Luke delve into various themes surrounding spirituality, morality, and societal issues. They explore the compassionate practices found in different religions, the importance...2024-10-251h 17What's The Point Anyway?What's The Point Anyway - Where Joel Rosenauer Lives, Moves and Has His BeingSummaryIn this conversation, Joel Rosenauer shares his profound journey from being a pastor's kid to grappling with addiction and ultimately finding faith. He discusses the struggles of questioning his beliefs, the impact of family dynamics, and the transformative moment that led him to embrace Christianity. Joel's story highlights the complexities of faith, the challenges of addiction, and the power of personal transformation through a relationship with Jesus. In this conversation, Joel shares his transformative journey from atheism to Christianity, emphasizing the importance of apologetics and understanding the evidence behind faith. He discusses the challenges...2024-10-151h 10