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So, We Bought a Book Shop019 "Good Gracious, We Have it Stacked Against Us"Why did Maile think, after finishing The Bookshop, "Good gracious, we have it stacked against us"? Last week we went to a Fredrik Backman author event and he spoke about writing, how mental health issues have inspired his book, and his process (chaos, chaos, chaos, book!). Backman wondered if he still has the ability to keep going, and we wonder what it's like for an author to retire. We also talk about violence in literature--what's its purpose? Does it have a place in books for young people? Books mentioned during the conversation: 2025-05-2642 min

So, We Bought a Book Shop018 When Water Comes Through the CeilingOne week ago, Maile heard water coming into the book shop through the ceiling. By the time she came back with a bucket, water was pouring down and pieces of the ceiling were coming with it. Today we're talking about hitting low points during the pursuit of your dream, and what to do next. Books mentioned during the conversation: We Do Not Part by Han Kang The Vegeterian by Han Kang Everything is Tuberculosis by John Green Little Sister Death by William Gay Finding Me by Viola Davis T...2025-05-1438 min

So, We Bought a Book Shop017 What We Learned In Our First YearToday, Maile and I are talking about our first year as book shop owners. How has this year changed us? Do we view books differently than we did before owning a book store? We also chat about a book we've both read that is a beautiful example of what a book written in the 1st person can accomplish--it's quirky and haunting and unexpected. Happy one year to Nooks! Books mentioned during the conversation: Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead by Olga Tokarczuk Brothers K by David James Duncan W...2025-04-3042 min

So, We Bought a Book Shop011 Bears Versus Men, Being Alone in the Store, and Vulnerability in FictionMaile reflects on the vulnerable state of women and children and how occasionally being in the store by herself with odd men has made her uncomfortable, with one specific, recent story as an example. Shawn fills Maile in on the internet question from some time ago, "Would you feel more at danger in the woods if you encountered a man or a bear?" and she gives her answer. They also dive deep into three books that have opened their eyes to vulnerability, abuse and manipulation. Let's all be more curious. For a complete list of al...2025-03-1942 min $Meg\'s Reading Room$ Meg's Reading RoomEp 32: So, They Bought a Bookshop with Shawn & Maile Smucker / Nooks BookstoreWelcome in! I'm so glad you're here with me.On today's episode, I am joined by Shawn and Maile (Silva) Smucker. Shawn and Maile are readers, writers, parents of 6 kids, and the owners of Nooks in Lancaster, PA. You can read more about their story here.In our conversation, we discuss their journey to buying the bookstore, the books they are most drawn to, and how they are making room for rest and reading during this very full season of life.Mentioned in this episode:So, We Bought a Bookshop PodcastNooks BookstoreShawn's...2025-03-1455 min

So, We Bought a Book Shop009 When Returning to the Dream is Tough (and the Death of Shawn's Books)Today Maile shares why it felt so hard to return to the book shop after a week away (but what also made the return so sweet). And Shawn talks about getting the rights back to two of his books, why it feels a little like these novels have died (kind of). If everything comes to an end, often too soon, why write? Why create? Why start something new? For a complete list of books mentioned on the podcast, head over to our bookshelf dedicated to this podcast at Bookshop.org! Here are a few of t...2025-03-0543 min

So, We Bought a Book Shop007 Time is Money...Until It Isn'tWe've been marveling at how owning the book shop has expanded the circle of folks we interact with, and Maile talks about how much she needed that. We also talk about the nature of compensation...are there things you do or would do simply for the love of it, receiving no money in exchange for your time? If Maile isn't making money at the shop, why in the world does she spend so much time there? Also, Shawn meets a monk in the shop and Sean Dietrich (aka Sean of the South) came to Nooks ...2025-02-1947 min

So, We Bought a Book Shop005 What It's Like to be a Writer Selling Other People's StoriesMaile and I talk about being writers who own a book shop...do we mind selling other writers' work when we haven't had much time to write ourselves? And going into 2025, how do we get back on track in our own writing life? Do conditions need to be perfect for you to step out and follow your dream? This one's for anyone working a day job who also wants to pursue their creative dreams. Books mentioned in this episode: The War of Art by Steven Pressfield Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott 2025-02-0536 min

So, We Bought a Book Shop004 Our Fears About Owning a Book Shop, and Finding HopeToday Maile and I talk about our fears in opening a bookstore--what if, in this divisive climate, people get upset by the books we carry or choose not to carry? What if we can't read enough books to keep up with our readers' needs? What if the construction on our block puts us out of business? So much of our hope in the face of despair comes from you all, a book-loving community that helps us to know about the good books that are out there in the world and continues to bring us all together. 2025-01-3045 min

So, We Bought a Book Shop003 Is All Reading Beneficial?Is all reading beneficial? Maile and I begin by gently debating the place of graphic novels in a child's reading diet, then discuss the comment we often hear from visitors in the shop about children: "As long as they're reading, that's what matters." Is it? What if it's not about the book as much as what we bring to the book and how deliberate we are in evaluating what we're reading? There are so many forces acting on us, so many people who want us to think in certain ways. If we read the right...2025-01-2137 min

So, We Bought a Book Shop001 So . . . We Bought a Book ShopWhere do dreams take root? What's the process in deciding to say yes to something new, out-of-the-box, exciting? Today, Maile and I talk about the story behind our purchase of Nooks, a local book shop in Lancaster, PA. We also discuss how the fear of failure can keep us trying meaningful things or setting out on new adventures, and how an important part of making big decisions is often . . . waiting, patience, trust. Also, Shawn talks about being on the edge of a literal breakdown, and Maile shares how her introverted self has grown into her love of c...2025-01-0740 min

Word By Word: A Writing PodcastMaile's Writing Journey (S1.01)Welcome to Word by Word! In today's episode we ask Maile Silva about her journey as a writer from early Santa fanfiction to present day. --- Maile's Substack: Mai Time in the Kitchen Shawn's Books: Books by Shawn Smucker Shawn's Substack: Shawn Smucker Bryan's Books: LakeMasonBooks.com --- Intro / Outro music is Birds by Corbyn Kites, as found in the YouTube Audio Library.2024-02-0735 min

The Stories Between Us171 Maile Tells Shawn What's Wrong With His WritingRecently, when Shawn shared his concerns with Maile, that he would never be able to write the book he wanted to write, that it was beginning to feel like all of life was just him practicing writing...she got really honest and told him what she felt was his greatest weakness as a writer. And they're still married. Today, we're talking about the voices in our head and how they can sometimes keep us from creating what we're meant to create. Maile also gives a little update on her manuscript, which is out on...2023-01-3126 min

Life Church LancasterMoment by Moment with Maile Smucker Sermon #2 of our Moment By Moment series with guest speaker Maile Smucker. 2023-01-221h 08

The Stories Between Us164 Our Three Favorite Books of 2022Maile and Shawn decide on their three favorite books of 2022. Shawn's favorite is no surprise to those of you who have been listening to the podcast. Maile's favorite has, dare she say, changed her life. Shawn also throws in a few honorable mentions. Plus, a fun announcement! A list of books mentioned in the episode, in no particular order: The Witch Elm by Tana French Cloud Cuckoo Land by Anthony Doerr Rembrandt is in the Wind by Russ Ramsey The Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman Circe by Madeline Miller...2022-12-0730 min

The Stories Between Us158 Join Our Writing Community for FreeToday we have a special announcement to make: our online writers' community, also called The Stories Between Us, is now open to any writer who would like to join. And it's free. But registration will only be open for two weeks, so check it out. You can find out more about the community HERE. We also talk about being voluntarily brainwashed, what Maile's been reading, and a podcast that Shawn's enjoying. 2022-10-3120 min

The Stories Between Us155 The Practice that Makes All the DifferenceMaile talks about what she's returned to that is making all the difference in her creative life, as well as why she wasn't crazy about the beginning of one of Shawn's favorite books. There's a brief update on Maile's book submission process. Michelle DeRusha's Seasons of the Soul enters the conversation. And the children are home from school. Fun all around!2022-10-1224 min

The Stories Between Us152 After Less-Than-Stellar Book Sales...What Now?What now? That's the question Shawn and Maile explore after Shawn's recent check-in with his agent. Unimpressive book sales make it difficult for an author to continue to receive offers on new books, so what do we do if we find ourselves in this situation? We have to figure out, are we going to keep going?2022-06-1421 min

The Stories Between Us151 Creative Goals and the Life of a Writing MamaShawn finds an 8-year-old goal he set way back in 2014, so he and Maile spend some time talking about it. Maile shares her perspective when it comes to goal-setting in the midst of raising six children. Welcome to the Smucker dinner table! They also talk about a scary experiment Shawn is going to be doing over at shawnsmucker.substack.com. Plus, a few books they're enjoying these days.2022-06-0728 min

The Stories Between Us145 Let Yourself Be EccentricThis week after seeing how a plant-loving friend tried to play down her love for her little green buddies, Maile and I are exploring why we as creative people often try to diminish the creative work we do instead of embracing it. 2022-04-2630 min

The Stories Between Us142 Tough Parenting Weekends and Good Book EndingsWell, that was a weekend. Today we're talking about family life, navigating tough conversations with our kids, and...good book endings. Maile just finished reading a great book, so we talk about what makes a good ending. What makes a good book ending for you?2022-04-0629 min

The Stories Between Us139 Nothing is WastedToday we start off by talking about a book Maile recommended to Shawn, a book he finally started reading this week and is loving. We also talk about how, for the writer, nothing is wasted--no sadness, no hardship, no joy, and no time, even when we're not writing, is wasted. It all becomes part of us, and part of the things we create. 2022-03-1525 min

The Stories Between Us138 The Good Things Right in Front of UsToday we're reflecting on spring, new beginnings, and why it's important to appreciate where we are, today, without looking too far ahead. Also, this present age's gluttonous obsession with approval. And where we're seeing signs of hope in our own creative journeys. As discussed on this podcast: - Maile's blog! - Shawn's Video of a Novel 2022-03-0821 min

The Stories Between Us136 Is There Value in Our Secret Work?Today we're talking about the value of work done in secret. Is there any? What if the things we do never see the light of day? We also talk about some new things we're up to, namely Maile's blog and Shawn's video journal of the novel he's currently writing. Check out the links for those below. Maile's Blog: https://www.thestoriesbetweenus.com/blog Shawn's video journal: https://shawnsmucker.substack.com Homegoing by Yaa Gyasi A House on Mango Street by Sandra Cisneros 2022-02-2320 min

The Stories Between Us127 When to Work Hard...and When to Give Yourself a BreakShawn's exhausted, so he and Maile talk about how to know when to give yourself a break...and when to push through the malaise. How do you decide if you need to be harder on yourself and get the work done, or give yourself some grace and take it easy?2021-12-1025 min

The Stories Between Us126 What If You Wrote Simply for the Fun of It?We reminisce about our ongoing love affair for all things Over the Rhine and remember the time we listened to their song "Born" to get Maile through labor (which almost happened at a stop light). We also explore this idea of returning to the fun of creativity, instead of writing what we "should" or what others expect us to write. Finally, we've got a new revision course coming up--only writers who have completed awful first draft manuscripts need apply. You can find more details at our website, thestoriesbetweenus.com 2021-12-0316 min

The Stories Between Us124 The Laundry Room Office...a Sacred Space?Could a place as ordinary as the laundry room office become a sacred space? Today Maile and I are talking about the places where we write, where we've written in the past, and whether or not the laundry room office can welcome the muse...or not. We also talk about the joy we've experienced for the last nine months, walking alongside novelists as they write a novel. And there are new classes starting up! As always, you can help this podcast continue by supporting it for only $5 / month over at our Patreon page. Thank you!2021-11-1119 min

The Stories Between Us122 Scary Books, Scary Movies, and Our Greatest Creative FearsToday we're talking all things scary: books, movies, Maile's early adherence to Gwen Shamblin's Weigh Down program. Yeah. Not even kidding. But we also talk about what scares us creatively, our deepest, darkest fears. Join us. Don't be afraid. 2021-10-2924 min

The Stories Between Us118 Maile's First Publisher Rejection, and Maintaining HopeThere are a lot of exciting things going on around here these days: Maile received her first publisher rejection, we're offering a new memoir-writing course, and we're working hard to maintain our hope on this writing journey. That last one isn't always easy, but there are a few things we like to keep in mind that help us stay hopeful and engaged in our writing practice. To find out more about our upcoming class, The Six Month Memoir, click HERE. To support the podcast, go HERE. To check out Shawn's most recent novel, h...2021-09-3018 min

The Stories Between Us115 Twenty-Two YearsMaile and I talk about what it's like to be married for 22 years and the impact that our relationship has had on our writing and creativity. To find out more about the writing classes we offer, head over to thestoriesbetweenus.com If you enjoy this podcast, please consider supporting it for only $5 a month over at patreon.com/shawnsmucker 2021-09-1021 min

The Stories Between Us113 Maile Signs with an AgentIf you've been with us since the beginning, you know that Maile finished writing her first novel three years ago and has been querying agents off and on ever since. Well, this summer she signed with agent...but much about her mindset changed in the meantime. Today we are talking patience, surrender, and a willingness to keep writing. 2021-08-2724 min

The Stories Between Us110 We Talk With One of Maile's Favorite WritersI had to work hard at helping Maile keep it together for this episode, since we were talking with one of her favorite writers, the famous Carola Dunn, author of the Daisy Dalrymple murder mystery series. Carola talks about how she got into writing, why she retired, and what it is about writing books that is particularly rewarding. Donate $5 a month to help support The Stories Between Us! You can do that over at patreon.com/shawnsmucker 2021-07-3029 min

The Stories Between Us107 A Big Announcement!Today we talk about the release of Shawn's latest book, The Weight of Memory, and why he no longer expects to get taken straight to the top of the mountain. Maile is more into the Ecclesiastical side of things--what's bringing meaning to her life these days? New book: The Weight of Memory New classes: The Stories Between Us A Twitter Addict Realizes She Needs Rehab Please consider supporting this podcast through Patreon!2021-07-0920 min

The Stories Between Us104 Growing the Deep Roots of Creative Self-ConfidenceMaile is about to re-enter the agent submission fray with her latest novel, so we take some time to talk about self-confidence. How can we tell when our own work is any good? What steps can we take to regain self-confidence we may have lost after previous rejections? Shawn also talks about his upcoming book release party, where he will be joined by Sean Dietrich (also known as Sean of the South)! To preorder the book and receive your invitation to the event, head HERE.2021-05-2037 min

The Stories Between Us103 Kiki Oliphant Finds Her Own PathWhen Maile and I spoke with Kiki, we expected to learn a lot about her journey into self-publishing. What we didn't expect was to come away from the conversation feeling so encouraged, so empowered to keep writing, and more motivated than ever to explore all of the publishing options out there. 2021-05-1730 min

The Stories Between Us102 Change, Manifesting, and Other Thoughts Brought on By MovingWe discuss the upcoming move and the anxiety or uncertainty it has created in us, then bring it back around to writing and creativity, exploring what it looks like to approach change with hope. To try different things without being "realistic" all the time (what that means). Maile shares a favorite Harrison Ford movie scene. Can we create with more hope?2021-05-1334 min

The Stories Between Us101 Karen Stiller and How Motherhood Helped Her WritingKaren Stiller, author of The Minister's Wife, talks about the challenges involved in writing about personal topics, why she pursued her MFA, and how being a mother, instead of taking from her writing time, actually made her a better writer. Karen has a fresh perspective on writing and life, and Maile and I thoroughly enjoyed our time with her. 2021-05-1036 min

The Stories Between Us098 Never Too Early, Never Too LateShawn and Maile talk revisions, perfection, and when to take a manuscript to the next stage. They also share the back stories of the authors they're currently reading, one on the young side, the other on the older side, and remind each other that there's no perfect age when it comes to releasing books. Except now. Now might be the perfect age. 2021-04-2130 min

The Stories Between Us094 On Hope, Disappointment, and Everything in BetweenMaile and Shawn talk about the fine line between hope and discouragement, whether or not it's possible to choose genuine hope, and when giving up is the right thing to do. Also, Maile's crush on Daniel Day-Lewis is explored. 2021-04-0627 min

The Stories Between Us093 Creating in Times of StressMaile and Shawn start by clearing something up from the previous episode that might have led listeners to believer their marriage was heading for disaster. They also discuss the various things that have helped them make space for creativity, even during stressful, chaotic times of life. 2021-03-3124 min

The Stories Between Us091 Winn Collier On Writing the Biography of Eugene PetersonWinn Collier talks with us about what it was like to write the biography of Eugene Peterson, how he got the gig in the first place, and what it's like, trying to capture the essence of a complex person's life in a 300-page book. He also turns the tables on us, asking Maile if she prefers Shawn with a beard or without. It's a hard-hitting interview. 2021-03-1827 min

The Stories Between Us090 Do You Really Want What You Think You Want?Maile and Shawn go deep into the idea of having fun and the difference between creating art and selling art. And if we are going to tie the things we really want to our everyday behavior...do we really want what we think we want? 2021-03-1638 min

The Stories Between Us088 Art as a Support System for Life (And Not the Other Way Around)Maile shares a story of trying to get some revisions finished on her novel when the kids remind her she had promised them a walk to the dog park. Which raises the question...is my art a support system for my life, or is my life a support system for my art? Shawn also wrestles with the complicated creative legacy of Van Gogh. 2021-03-0921 min

The Stories Between Us086 In Which We Are All Van GoghA kind friend sent Shawn a book written in 1933 that rocks his world. Shawn and Maile talk about the book, which is all about the life of Vincent van Gogh. They wrestle with the question Van Gogh's father asked him in his early days of creativity, "What if at the end the work remains poor? Are the rewards worth the gamble?" The book discussed is Lust for Life by Irving Stone. 2021-03-0233 min

The Stories Between Us081 That Thing Our Family Tried in JanuaryShawn and Maile talk about the Great January experiment--what it was, how their kids reacted to the idea, and the results they saw. They also revisit the idea of setting expectations, goals, and dreams, and then making sure your life is aligned with the direction you'd like to be heading. Interested in their new course, The Nine Month Novel? Check it out HERE. Kate Motaung's wonderful community, Five Minute Friday And the first episode we discussed expectations, goals, and dreams: What Do You Want?2021-02-0931 min

The Stories Between Us080 Beth Stedman and the Art of Getting Unstuck“At the beginning of the year I felt like everyone else was moving somewhere, and I was stuck.” Beth Stedman joins us today to talk about rejection, choosing to write no matter the results, escapist literature, and the role creativity has played during the last ten years as her husband has continued his cancer journey. Also, check out the two episodes when Maile and Shawn were each guests over at Beth’s podcast, Fable and the Verbivore. Maile’s episode is HERE, and Shawn’s is HERE.2021-02-0429 min

The Stories Between Us079 This New Thing We're DoingMaile and I talk about what we're currently writing and then get rather excited as we describe this new journey we're inviting you to join us on. Music by Lucy Leigh.2021-02-0229 min

The Stories Between Us078 Janelle Stoltzfus and Walking the Valley of the Shadow of DeathLast fall, our good friend and fellow creative Janelle Stoltzfus discovered that she had breast cancer. Weeks later, soon after her lumpectomy, she received the news that her mother had a brain tumor, a glioblastoma, and had weeks to live. Today, we hear her story and, as always, try to discover the role that creativity might play in these difficult days. Visit Janelle's beautiful creation, Millstream Homes. Maile reads the poem "Breathing Underwater" by Carol Bieleck. Shawn reads from the book The Reed of God, by Carol Houselander.2021-01-2943 min

The Stories Between Us074 Laura Tremaine and How Time Heals All (Most?) WoundsLaura Tremaine joins us today to talk about her transition from mommy-blogger to podcaster to author. She also opens up about a dark stage in her life and what brought her through. Finally, Shawn and Maile ask her if there are any feelings of jealousy between her and her super-successful and creative husband, Jeff, who is a movie producer...and the conversation that ensues is encouraging. Preorder Laura's new book: Share Your Stuff. I'll Go First. Laura's podcast: 10 Things to Tell You 2021-01-1550 min

The Stories Between Us073 Creating Courageously During Difficult DaysToday Maile and Shawn talk about the various ways creative people can and should be engaging with culture during these difficult days. We try to do it without hypocrisy, but you can judge for yourself on whether or not that is the case. We also mention (again) Jonathan Rogers' wonderful podcast and newsletter, The Habit. 2021-01-1225 min

The Stories Between Us071 Bettering Yourself as a WriterWelcome to Season Four! It's going to be a good one. Today we talk about Maile's obsession with Netflix's fake fireplace (Birchwood edition), the books we're reading, and what we're going to do to better ourselves as writers in 2021. Also, Shawn shares the one thing that ALWAYS silences the voices of self-doubt. The book Shawn threw in the lazy river: How Fiction Works by James Wood 2021-01-0535 min

The Stories Between Us070 Creative Mindsets for the New YearWhat creative mindsets are you taking with you into the New Year? Are they ways of thinking about creativity that serve you well or do they keep you mired in negative self-talk? Today, Shawn and Maile each share one mindset they're taking with them into the New Year, and one mindset they're planning on leaving in 2020. Alex Haley's biography Awesome Alex Haley interview: The Roots of Alex Haley's Writing Career 2020-12-2217 min

The Stories Between Us069 A Conversation with the Artist Freiman StoltzfusToday we get to speak with painter and artist Freiman Stoltzfus about growing up as an artist within the Amish community, the role his mother played in his life work, and the relationship between creativity and grief. Maile is especially fascinated by a term he uses, creative recovery, in describing how we can rediscover our creativity, even later in life. 2020-12-1726 min

The Stories Between Us068 It's Time to Make a ChangeShawn and Maile talk about the dynamic and life-giving force that change can be in your creative life. So, change it up! They also talk about the various ways their creative lives are changing in 2021--Maile is teaching a writing class! Shawn is writing a screen play! Join them as they talk about the good and tough of making changes to your creative life.2020-12-1522 min

The Stories Between Us066 Who is Your Future Creative Self?Maile and Shawn talk about their own self-limiting beliefs and how those things have kept them from trying and creating new things. Do you have beliefs about yourself that are limiting? Are you measuring who you can become by your past? And they talk about a new way forward, a creative path that allows for creativity, innovation, and, most importantly, hope. 2020-12-0821 min

The Stories Between Us065 Matthew Paul Turner and the Joy of WritingMatthew Paul Turner joins us today to talk about encouraging friendships, Christmas, and the joys of writing for children. He shares his journey to writing kids' books, has a remarkable memory when it comes to the first time he and Shawn met, and has some revealing words regarding one of Shawn's high school crushes (ahem, Amy Grant). Maile, staying on topic, gushes about Matthew's latest book, All the Colors of Christmas. When God Made You When God Made Light 2020-12-031h 17

The Stories Between Us064 Our Favorite Books of 2020Maile and Shawn surprise each other and reveal their favorite books of 2020, along with what can only be described as extremely poignant insights into what made each book so special...okay, maybe it's not that profound, but they have fun with it. 2020-12-0122 min

The Stories Between Us063 You're Not an Undiscovered Genius (and This is Good News)We talk about the myth of the undiscovered genius and why this is a dangerous road for a writer's mind to travel, as well as how knowing the truth (that we're all mortals who simply need to work harder at our craft) is actually good news. Plus, the writing 101 lesson that has Maile and Shawn encouraged and ready to get back to work. 2020-11-2421 min

The Stories Between Us062 Childhood Creativity and Maile's Inappropriate Christmas StoryWe talk about the benefits of creativity for children and adults. Maile gushed over a new children's Christmas book and shares about an inappropriate Christmas story she wrote when she was in second grade. Shawn doesn't care about the world anymore because he has his own office in the basement. And they reveal the identity of their next guest on the show--a real doozy. Mentioned on the show: The Importance of Creativity in Childhood Development Creativity: A Strategic Necessity All the Colors of Christmas by Matthew Paul Turner Boundary Waters by William K...2020-11-1725 min

The Stories Between Us061 Jamie Kocur and the Seeds of CreativityJamie Kocur joins us to talk about songwriting, creating in the margins, and her new book, My CCM Soundtracked Life. Shawn is concerned her disillusionment might destroy his childhood memories of Michael W. Smith and Amy Grant. Maile has no such concerns, as she grew up listening to Air Supply. We talk about how small seeds of creativity planted now might grow into something more substantial down the road.2020-11-1227 min

The Stories Between Us060 Write What You Know...Or NotShawn admits to Maile that, unbeknownst to her, he did apply for their family to move to New Zealand. He gushes about a book he's currently reading (although he's not sure he's allowed to talk about it). Maile's recent delight is parenting the youngest two. But what they really dig into is the old saying, "Write what you know"...and how to decide how much more you need to learn about something before writing about it. A few of the topics discussed: Sean Dietrich (aka Sean of the South) Anthony Doerr's All th...2020-11-1019 min

The Stories Between Us058 Seven Ways to Maintain Creativity During Turbulent TimesMaile and Shawn talk about how the ongoing societal angst is effecting their creativity, along with seven practices that might help you regain a handle on your creative life. As the episode progresses, Shawn thinks Maile might be conspiring against him in the creation of the list. You'll have to decide for yourself. Mentioned: The Habit Podcast: Jonathan Rogers Interviews Andrew LePeau about the link between physical exercise and creative ideas. 2020-11-0324 min

The Stories Between Us057 Jude Halvorsen (Poetry House) and Overcoming DistractionsShawn and Maile speak with 17-year-old rap artist Jude Halvorsen from Poetry House about his process, what got him into music, and what it takes to maintain a certain level of creativity with all of today's distractions. Check out his newest single, Pain Now.2020-10-2919 min

The Stories Between Us056 What Sent Our Voice to the Page in the First PlaceMaile talks cupcakes. Shawn talks about standing in the sun on James Street. But what we really get into is the question, What brought you to this creative life in the first place, and how can you recover that? And, how are you being an encouraging force in the creative lives of those around you? Lancaster Cupcake Amena Brown 2020-10-2722 min

The Stories Between Us053 What's the Big Idea?Where do ideas come from, and how do you choose which idea to run with? Today we talk about the infamous, brainless sea squirt, how no idea is an original idea, and what our own personal process is in deciding which idea to forge ahead with. Also, Shawn vents about a recent review (having to do with the idea behind his last novel, These Nameless Things), and Maile somehow pulls in a reference to that great 1987 Sylvester Stallone movie, Over the Top. Smithsonian article referenced: Where Do New Ideas Come From? Shawn's book, These Nameless T...2020-10-1327 min

The Stories Between Us051 The Divine PartnershipMaile and Shawn talk about the divine partnership that occurs within the creative work. Related to that, they talk about books going out of print and created works that don't accomplish what we would like them to accomplish. They also talk about the lost virtue of magnanimity: having "a lofty vision for your life, to have noble ambitions, to dream great dreams. Simply, you must believe you are worthy as a child of God, and created to do great things."* *from Father Brian Cavanaugh's "Your Created Goodness"2020-10-0117 min

The Stories Between Us050 Some More Thoughts On HopeMaile and I update you on where we are in our writing lives, what our current goals and dreams are, and talk about the nature, and importance, of hope in the life of the writer. I also offer an apology. You can also catch these episodes LIVE as we're recording them on Instagram Live on Tuesdays at 12:30!2020-09-2417 min

The Stories Between Us049 Farewell...For NowMaile and Shawn wrap up their second season with a conversation about the cycles of writing, a letter from a famous writer about the importance of creativity, and each of them give one last piece of encouragement before saying farewell...for now. To find out more about Jonathan Rogers' 'The Habit' podcast and newsletter, head HERE.2020-07-3113 min

The Stories Between Us047 Self-Care for the Creative During a PandemicShawn and Maile talk about being tired, writing while anxious, and a few small things that help them create well during difficult times. 2020-07-0817 min

The Stories Between Us045 Overcoming DistractionToday, Maile and Shawn admit to a few of the things that distract them from writing the most and offer up a few suggestions when it comes to regaining your focus. They also apologize profusely for not posting a podcast last Tuesday. Shawn forgets to hit the record button. 2020-06-2315 min

The Stories Between Us043 D.L. Mayfield: The Intermingling of Creativity and ActivismToday, D.L. Mayfield reminds us creative folks to tend to our bodies. She turns the tables on Shawn and Maile and asks them, "Can beauty really save the world?" And she helps us to begin thinking about how creative writing and activism can go hand-in-hand. You can find out more about the books and other writing Danielle has done at dlmayfield.com 2020-06-1227 min

The Stories Between Us042 In Which Shawn Confesses to Maile and It Involves a Royalty StatementShawn admits that he received a royalty statement last week but threw it in the trash. Maile is perplexed as to why he didn't tell her when this happened. Find out why. They also talk about how to deal with disappointing sales and their new puppy, Winnifred. We're giving away five advance copies of Shawn's soon-to-be-released novel, These Nameless Things. To have your name entered in a drawing for one of the copies, simply share this podcast to any social media profile you have and use the hashtag, #TheStoriesBetweenUs. 2020-06-0920 min

The Stories Between Us036 When Shawn was a 19-Year-Old Jerkface: Some Thoughts on FeedbackMaile digs up an old memory in which 19-year-old Shawn, during a moment of insensitivity, said something that still echoes in her mind today. They talk about the importance of receiving feedback (and being able to keep it from feeling personal). Also, those voices in your head telling you you're not good enough? It's time to identify them and then kick them out of your headspace. 2020-05-1923 min

The Stories Between Us035 Ira Wagler: Writing Down the Broken RoadsWhy would a New York Times best-selling author wait nine years to release his next title? Today we talk about that with Ira Wagler, also discussing the difficulty in writing about the people you love, why he enjoys his day job (which isn't writing), and why Maile wasn't invited back to his famous summer barbecues. You can check out Ira's new book, Broken Roads, HERE.2020-05-1531 min

The Stories Between Us034 A 10-Year Path to Publication (a Tutorial on Self-Encouragement)What happens if you don't have encouraging voices around you? How can we be the source of encouragement for ourselves? How can we stay positive when the creative journey gets tough? Shawn and Maile talk about this and dig into the story behind Shawn's upcoming book, These Nameless Things, and its 10-year path to publication. 2020-05-1218 min

The Stories Between Us031 To Self-Publish or not to Self-Publish: Maile Decides (Thanks to Bryan Allain)Bryan Allain joins us today on the podcast and interrogates Maile. What are her hangups with self-publishing? Why does she care so much about what the traditional gatekeepers think? And what is she going to do with these novels she has spent so much time working on? Bryan Allain left a 15-year career as a Chemical Engineer to pursue his passion of writing, speaking, and helping brands share their message. He's since helped YouTube stars, platinum selling bands, book publishers, and golf clubs promote the things they are passionate about.2020-05-0140 min

The Stories Between Us030 Writing as a "Revolutionary Patience": Our Thoughts on Anne Lamott's Bird By BirdShawn talks about his favorite book on writing and how it first came into his possession. Maile talks about, in Anne Lamott's words, at first believing minor repairs are needed on her novel, looking out the window, and realizing that actually the wrecking ball had arrived. They both discuss how, at the end of the day, the actual creating is the thing--not the publishing or the reviews or the awards. Not the rejection or the critics or the disappointments. The writing is what we always come back to. 2020-04-2820 min

The Stories Between Us029 Mitali Perkins: Why We Keep CreatingIf you listened to the previous episode, you know that Maile has been struggling with discouragement--this episode, which was actually recorded a few months ago, is the perfect follow up. Mitali Perkins offers the perfect encouragement, the perfect answer to, "Why keep writing?" Mitali (mitaliperkins.com) has written many books for young readers, including Between Us and Abuela (2020 Charlotte Huck Honor Book), Forward Me Back To You (SLJ and Kirkus Best YA Books of 2019), You Bring the Distant Near (nominated for a National Book Award, six starred reviews), and Rickshaw Girl (adapted into a film by Sleeperwave...2020-04-2439 min

The Stories Between Us028 In Which Maile Gets Really, Really Honest"If I'm honest, I feel like...okay, now we're going to get really deep. Are we ready for this? I feel like the clock is ticking for me." Today Maile and Shawn talk about the gut-wrenching part of creativity (rejection), the problem with tying your success to things you have no control over, and what to do when the discouragement seems like too much. 2020-04-2128 min

The Stories Between Us027 Lore Ferguson Wilbert - On Letting the Work Do Its Work in UsMaile and I have the distinct privilege of speaking with Lore Ferguson Wilbert, writer and author of the new book on touch, Handle With Care. We explore why Lore, for many years, was hesitant to write a book, why she changed her mind, and what work the work can do in us. Lore also, interestingly enough, shares her thoughts on touch during a time when we are being asked to stay far apart from each other. It's a particularly poignant conversation, given our current circumstances. 2020-04-1728 min

The Stories Between Us026 Your Chance to Press Reset on LifeWhat if this time of silence and uncertainty is actually an opportunity to reset your life, to strategically realign your priorities to better serve you? Maile and I talk about how this quiet time, this time of doing nothing, going nowhere, has us questioning everything. We talk about preparing for a "return to normal," but we also hope we have the strength and wisdom to make some serious changes. Join us as we discuss pressing reset on our lives. Article discussed: "Prepare for the Ultimate Gaslighting"2020-04-1419 min

The Stories Between Us022 Overcoming Fear, Rejection, and the Great ResistanceMaile and Shawn discuss the strange new world we are all living in as well as the book on creativity, The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. They delve into the fears that try to keep them from creating, and Maile shares an update on her recent querying of agents to represent her middle grade books. 2020-03-3132 min

The Stories Between Us019 In Which Shawn Confesses, Maile Talks About Depression, and Revisions are in OrderShawn has a confession to make. Maile talks through her latest bout with depression and reflects on how writing gave her a place to go. They both talk about the need for creative types to shift from wanting only affirmation to also wanting critique that will help them make their stuff better. We explore who specifically to go to for feedback on early drafts of your creative work. And all of this from the comfort of their brand new studio: a Disney princess tent they can barely fit inside.2020-03-1025 min

The Stories Between Us017 In Which Maile Gets Over Her Dislike of Big Magic (Which She Had Never Read Before)We talk a bit about our trip to Kentucky to hang out with other writers, and then Maile makes a surprising admission about Elizabeth Gilbert and her wonderful book on writing and creativity, Big Magic. We dig into Gilbert's novel approach to rejection letters, how to create in the face of resistance, and why you don't need anyone's permission to be creative. 2020-02-2528 min

The Stories Between Us015 Why We Stopped Homeschooling (Thoughts on Freeing Up Space for Creativity)Today Maile and I tell the story of why we stopped homeschooling. Except it's not really about homeschooling. I mean, it kind of is, but mostly it's a story about making hard decisions in an attempt to free up creative space. We talk about our fear of public city schools (I grew up in the country), the importance of taking baby steps, and where this decision ultimately led us.2020-02-1121 min

The Stories Between Us014 Christie Purifoy: When Creativity Surprises YouShawn and Maile chat with author Christie Purifoy about why she got her PhD and then left teaching, what it's like for writing to keep surprising you, and how to balance (or not) the writing life with other minor things like family, a spouse, and real life. Christie's writing is beautiful, reminiscent of Madeleine L'Engle's nonfiction, and she is the author of the books Roots and Sky and Placemaker. She can also be found on Instagram at @christiepurifoy, @maplehurstgardens, and @maplehurstblackbarn. She also does a podcast with co-host Lisa-Jo Baker called "Out of the Ordinary." * * * * *2020-02-0431 min

Poema PodcastPoema S6 005 | Maile Smucker on The Joy & Healing Power of WritingToday I'm joined by the wonderful Maile Smucker, writer and author. Maile is also co-host of 'The Stories Between Us' podcast alongside her husband, multiple guest Shawn Smucker. Maile tells us her own writing journey, and the challenges of how she has continued to explore her own writing gift & calling as her husband's professional writing and publishing career has thrived. She also discusses writing's own power to heal and transform us, and how to find joy in the work, rather than the result - and in seeing other writer thrive. Finally we explore how in cr...2020-02-0338 min

The Stories Between Us013 The Story of How We Met (and How Our Writing Brings Us Home Again)Shawn and Maile share the story of how they met, and how during that time they read Annie Dillard's The Writing Life. They discuss the importance of being willing to edit out even the parts of our writing we love, when necessary. What role does trust play in working with an editor? And, finally, writing can put us in situations that make us feel like we're being pulled away, but in the end it's the work of writing that brings us home. Books mentioned: The Writing Life by Annie Dillard The Day the Angels...2020-01-2830 min

The Stories Between Us012 Another Milestone for Maile...And What's NextShawn and Maile have fun discussing a recent milestone Maile accomplished. They consider the option of independent publishing, especially in light of the encouraging words from their last episode's guest, Chad Gibbs. They talk about what they're reading and anticipate an upcoming interview with a well-known author...2020-01-2123 min

The Stories Between Us010 On New Writing Routines, Mall Food Courts, and a New YearMaile discloses new life-changing routines. Shawn admits to a certain shopping mall food court obsession. They reveal the creativity book of the month they'll be discussing over at their Patreon page. And Maile has all the connections.2020-01-0723 min

The Stories Between Us009 On Death, Creativity, and What Makes Up a Good Creative LifeShawn and Maile reflect on the darkness of this particular Advent season and the death of Shawn's grandmother. They wonder if the way she lived her life might serve as a model for living a good creative life. It's the final episode of Season One! They explore what the next season might look like for the podcast and reveal one fun element coming in Season Two. Keep writing!2019-12-1721 min

The Stories Between Us008 In Which We Reevaluate Maile's Writing Situation...AgainMaile and Shawn talk about the previous episode, where they got their kids' opinions on having writers for parents. They also realize that their current strategy to get Maile writing isn't working anymore, so they regroup and make a new plan. Finally, Shawn's latest royalty statement arrives!2019-12-1025 min

The Stories Between Us007 How Have We Screwed You Up?Shawn and Maile invite their two oldest children onto the podcast to discuss everything creative: What's it like being creative kids in a large family? How did they feel when they realized both of their parents are writers? Would Lucy, after seeing the creative struggles of her stay-at-home mom, choose to have children or get married someday? Cade and Lucy shed some light on what it's like to grow up in a creative household and how they think this will effect their futures.2019-12-0331 min

The Stories Between Us006 The Thing Writers Don't Want to Talk AboutMaile and Shawn begin by talking about royalty statements and how sometimes they can be a twice-annual reminder of a book you wrote that didn't quite meet your hopes or expectations. Shawn vents about online courses and how many of them try to exploit writers. And they each end the episode by mentioning something they're thankful for in their writing life. Mentioned in the podcast: Andi Cumbo-Floyd's online Facebook community for writers Hopewriters Community 2019-11-2624 min

The Stories Between Us005 Jealousy Between Writing SpousesMaile reflects on how a recently-watched episode of the Berenstain Bears on envy reflected some of her feelings of jealousy towards Shawn and where he is in his writing journey. Shawn admits his cluelessness about various aspects of their marriage. It's also an episode where they talk about important questions that have come up in their lives. Maile asks, "What am I doing to feel alive in my own right?" Sam asked, "I thought Mom went to college to be a mom?" There is the difficult conversation. And the even more difficult conversation...2019-11-1925 min

The Stories Between Us004 In Which Maile Hears Back from an AgentMaile hears back from an agent and the interaction doesn't lead to tears. But there are tears later when Shawn and Maile go out to eat so that Maile can talk about her struggles with motherhood and creativity. How do we hold the good and the hard together? How can we help each other lift the burdens that we bear so that we have more space for creativity? As an added bonus, one of the Smucker children unexpectedly interrupts the podcast to let his parents know he's going to poop. All...2019-11-1222 min

The Stories Between Us003 In Which Maile is the Wife of the WriterMaile happens to sit down at a writing award banquet beside the very person she needed to be beside. We remember why we write, we talk about closed-door and open-door writing, and Shawn talks about how social media is robbing us of writing without an audience. He's such an old curmudgeon. And they emotionally prepare each other for an upcoming episode in which they will talk about jealousy among writing spouses. Books mentioned: Stephen King's On Writing Stephen King's 11/22/63 John Irving's A Prayer for Owen Meany 2019-11-0519 min

The Stories Between Us002 What Are You Going Towards?Maile and Shawn talk about the question, "Where are you going?" in regards to writing. What's the end game, and by what standards should we be content or anxious about our creative lives? Maile also admits that she has at times been a menace to society when she's not creating, referencing Maria Semple's book, Where'd You Go, Bernadette. 2019-10-2922 min

The Stories Between Us001 An Introduction to the Stories Between UsMaile Silva and Shawn Smucker give their backgrounds as writers, how they've gotten to this place, and what their current writing schedules are like. Maile also shares the meanest rejection she's ever received, and where she was when she read the email. Help us to continue recording The Stories Between Us by joining our Patreon community. 2019-10-1524 min