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Left AnchorSummers, Epstein, and EconomicsToday we have economics professor Marshall Steinbaum on to talk about the potential fall of Larry Summers due to his association with Jeffrey Epstein, and what it reveals about the culture of the economics profession and policymaking in the Democratic Party.
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Here are the articles mentioned in the discussion:
1. Claudia Sahm’s initial post: “Economics is a Disgrace.”
2. Claudia’s account of the retaliation she faced for that post: “Economics Truly is a Disgrace.”
3. Writeup of the resulting controversy in the Georgetown student news...
2025-11-2204 min
The ProgressiveBack to Basics Series: Does the Market Really Pay You What You’re Worth? (with Marshall Steinbaum and Saru Jayaraman) Podcast: Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer (LS 59 · TOP 0.1% what is this?)Episode: Back to Basics Series: Does the Market Really Pay You What You’re Worth? (with Marshall Steinbaum and Saru Jayaraman)Pub date: 2025-08-12Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationWe’ve all heard the story: In a fair market, workers are paid exactly what they’re worth. Economists even have a name for it—marginal productivity theory. It’s neat, simple…and completely wrong.
In this Back-to-Basics episode, economist Marshall Steinbaum and l...
2025-09-0450 min
American Campus PodcastNYT discovers community colleges, UChicago discovers crypto losses with Marshall SteinbaumThe Chicago boys would have loved digital assets. References and suggested readings:Alan Blinder and Steven Rich. August 25, 2025. The Typical College Student Is Not Who You Think. New York Times. (Strongly recommend reading the comments)Teddy Gania. March 19, 2025. UChicago Lost Money On Crypto, Then Froze Research When Federal Funding Was Cut. The Stanford Review.Richard J. Evans. 2005. The Coming of the Third Reich. Penguin Books.Marshall Steinbaum’s website, Twitter, and BlueskySupport the showBrowse the American Campus bookshelf Get in touch! Email Lauren at s...
2025-08-3120 min
Pitchfork Economics with Nick HanauerBack to Basics Series: Does the Market Really Pay You What You’re Worth? (with Marshall Steinbaum and Saru Jayaraman)We’ve all heard the story: In a fair market, workers are paid exactly what they’re worth. Economists even have a name for it—marginal productivity theory. It’s neat, simple…and completely wrong.
In this Back-to-Basics episode, economist Marshall Steinbaum and labor leader Saru Jayaraman dismantle the myth that the market fairly rewards labor. Steinbaum reveals how this theory has been weaponized to excuse wage stagnation, justify corporate power, and erode worker bargaining rights. Jayaraman shows what that looks like in the real world, from restaurant workers stuck at subminimum wages to entire industries built on underpa...
2025-08-1250 min
The Time of Monsters with Jeet HeerTrump’s Trade War is Also a Class War w/ Marshall SteinbaumDonald Trump’s tariff war is usually framed in terms of how it would impact consumers and America’s relationship with other countries, but it is also part of a larger project to remake taxation policy. Trump is very explicit that he wants tariffs to replace personal and corporate taxes with tariffs as the main source of revenue. As such, tariffs are a sales tax, of a particularly regressive sort. I talk to Marshall Steinbaum, an economist at the University of Utah, about how tariff’s fit in with Trump’s larger social vision of a plutocratic society, something that can...
2025-04-2743 min
The Same, but WorseElection MixdownAndrew, Marshall, and Jerry get together for a Thanksgiving chat about the election.
2025-01-191h 14
Left AnchorLake Powell Is Doomed - 329 PREVIEWThe second-largest reservoir in the United States is called Lake Powell on the Colorado River. It has not been filled since 1999, and in 2022 reached a record low of about 23 percent full--nearly the point of "dead pool," where the lake would be below the outlet pipes. The reason is that with climate change and reservoir overcapacity (the largest reservoir of all, Lake Mead, is downstream of Powell), there is too much storage on the river relative to demand for agriculture, cities, and water lost from reservoir evaporation.
What to do? Science writer Zak Podmore examines the question in...
2024-10-2321 minPitchfork Economics with Nick HanauerWhy do you continue to do this work?It’s our 300th episode! To mark this milestone, we’ve gathered some of the most thoughtful and inspiring answers to one of our favorite questions: Why do you do this work? Plus, Nick and Goldy share what keeps them in the fight for a better economy. We're deeply grateful for the wisdom of our incredible guests and, most of all, for YOU—our listeners—who’ve supported us along the way. Here’s to many more conversations unpacking who gets what and why in our economy, and how to build the economy from the middle out. Lov...
2024-09-2432 minThe Same, but WorseThe Same, But Worse - Higher EdMarshall and Andrew got together to chat about Marshall's piece on the LPE blog about higher education: https://lpeproject.org/blog/should-higher-education-ratify-privilege-or-public-service/.
2024-04-1356 min
The Nation PodcastsFarewell to Freakonomics | Time of Monsters with Jeet HeerOn this episode of The Time of Monsters, Marshall Steinbaum on economics as a toxic discipline.Our Sponsors:* Check out Avocado Green Mattress: https://avocadogreenmattress.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
2024-03-1833 min
The Time of Monsters with Jeet HeerFarewell to FreakonomicsSteven D. Levitt, best known for co-writing the bestselling 2005 book Freakonomics, is retiring from the University of Chicago with a bang. On the Capitalism and Freedom podcast, Levitt gave a farewell interview where he detailed many internecine feuds in the discipline and examples of toxic abuse, with particular focus on his long-time colleague and nemesis James Heckman. The economist Marshall Steinbaum, a University of Chicago graduate who now teaches at the University of Utah, returns to the Time of Monsters to elucidate not just the Levitt/Heckman spat but also the question of why economics is a n...
2024-03-1833 min
Know Your EnemyMilton Friedman and the Making of Our Times (w/ Jennifer Burns)In this episode, Matt and Sam are joined by Stanford historian Jennifer Burns to discuss her new biography of Milton Friedman, the Nobel Prize-winning economist whose influence would reach far beyond the academy when, during his last decades, he became one of the most effective popularizers of libertarian ideas—in books, columns, and even a ten-part PBS program, Free to Choose. How did the son of Jewish immigrants in New Jersey come to hold the often radical ideas that made him famous? How does Friedman's variety of libertarianism differ from, say, that of Mises or Hayek? What made Friedman, un...
2023-12-031h 37The Time of Monsters with Jeet HeerEstablishment Economics Under SiegeThe debate over the causes of inflation is heating up and showing an important divide in the discipline of economics. Mainstream economists like Larry Summers blame it on rising wages and recommend interest rate hikes to cool the economy by raising unemployment. But other scholars, notably Isabella Weber of the University of Massachusetts, have a different theory: they argue inflation is due to price gauging made possible by the Covid emergency and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Weber’s ideas, which are gaining traction, suggest the solution is price control.The possibility that establishment economics is losing it...
2023-06-2135 min
The Nation PodcastsTime of Monsters: Establishment Economics Under SiegeThe debate over the causes of inflation is heating up and showing an important divide in the discipline of economics. Mainstream economists like Larry Summers blame it on rising wages and recommend interest rate hikes to cool the economy by raising unemployment. But other scholars, notably Isabella Weber of the University of Massachusetts, have a different theory: they argue inflation is due to price gauging made possible by the Covid emergency and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Weber’s ideas, which are gaining traction, suggest the solution is price control.The possibility that establishment economics is losing it...
2023-06-2135 minPitchfork Economics with Nick HanauerHow the franchise system is rigged (with Marshall Steinbaum)In the 20th century, big corporations sold franchising to Americans as a less risky way to buy into business ownership. But in recent years, the franchise industry has tipped hugely in favor of franchisors, extracting wealth from both franchisees and the employees who work for them through complicated contracts that kill competition and rig the system. Economist Marshall Steinbaum returns to the podcast to share the findings from his deep dive into the (intentionally) complex and arcane franchise system, and to explain the latest data from Washington State’s recent enforcement campaign against no-poach clauses in franchising contracts....
2023-06-1343 min
Death PanelTeaser - The Debt Ceiling Deal w/ Marshall Steinbaum (06/05/23)Subscribe on Patreon and hear this week's full patron-exclusive episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/84120459
Bea speaks with Marshall Steinbaum about the debt ceiling deal and the provisions in it—from student loan repayments to new work requirements—that amount to a recommitment to austerity.
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2023-06-0605 minThe Same, but WorseElection WatchAndrew and a couple of special guests go deep on the Turkish election. Sorry for the lack of content lately, it's been a busy spring for all of us.
2023-05-281h 59
SlingshotSlingshot Episode 6 Hiba Hafiz, professor at Boston College Law School and expert advisor to the FTC, is interviewed by Darren Bush, Hal Singer, and Marshall Steinbaum about the application of antitrust law to labor markets.
2023-05-2754 minSlingshotSlingshot Episode 5In which Marshall Steinbaum, Hal Singer, and Darren Bush interview Cory Doctorow on matters "Chokepoint Capitalism" and unrigging of labor markets.
2023-04-1858 min
SlingshotSlingshot Episode 3 Discussing Evan Starr’s research on employment non-competes, Andrea’s work on FTC funding needs, and some short discussion on airlines. Evan StarrAndrea BeatyMarshall SteinbaumHal SingerDarren Bush
2023-02-281h 06
The Same, but WorseHigh Plains Billionaire DrifterWith Marshall sidelined by actual work, Andrew and Jerry discuss the recent FTX meltdown, Musk's acquisition of Twitter, and develop a typology of billionaires. Along the way we also discuss the repudiation of expertise as a relevant aspect of decision-making and establish which games are good for dads.
2022-12-141h 31
Left AnchorEpisode 258 - The Crypto Shill BrigadeToday we've got Marshall Steinbaum, professor of economics at the University of Utah, and The Nation's Jeet Heer on to talk about crypto shills--who they are, how they got like that, why there are so many of them among cultural and political elites, and more. Enjoy!
2022-12-061h 05Pitchfork Economics with Nick HanauerHow student loan forgiveness rebuilds the economy from the middle out (with Marshall Steinbaum)President Biden recently announced his plan for student loan forgiveness. It’s a policy that helps build the economy from the middle out by erasing some of the 1.7 trillion dollars in debt that’s holding Americans back. Economist Marshall Steinbaum, who has spent most of his career researching student debt, explains why this forgiveness plan is a great start—and why Biden can, and should, do more.Marshall Steinbaum is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the University of Utah and a Senior Fellow in Higher Education Finance at Jain Family Institute.
2022-09-2754 minThe Same, but WorsePlanet of ScamsWe discuss the proliferation of scams of all kinds in late capitalism and the failure of regulators to come to grips with this problem. After Marshall departs, Andrew and Jerry talk about the shortcomings of localism and the most important thing in politics, owning your ideological enemies online.
2022-09-202h 07The Same, but WorseAbortions for None, and Miniature American Flags for AllMarshall, Andrew, and Jerry discuss the Dobbs decision, how we got here over the decades, and the ultimate failure of Democratic centrism to protect abortion rights. In the second half, we sketch an outline of the evolving American constitutional order and come up with an ingenious solution to the problem of global warming and world peace (must credit TSBW if implemented).
2022-09-202h 05
Lever Time“Let Them Eat Student Debt” (w/ Astra Taylor & Marshall Steinbaum)On this week’s episode of Lever Time: David Sirota is joined by The Lever’s Andrew Perez and Matthew Cunningham-Cook to discuss Joe Biden’s student debt relief plan and dissect the internet’s obsession with ‘Dark Brandon' (3:15). Then, David sits down with author, filmmaker, and co-founder of the Debt Collective, Astra Taylor, and Assistant Professor of Economics at the University of Utah, Marshall Steinbaum, for an in-depth analysis of Biden’s student debt relief plan (37:55). If you'd like access to Lever Time Premium, which includes extended interviews and bonus content, head over to LeverNews.com to become a s...
2022-08-311h 15
Lever Time“Let Them Eat Student Debt” (w/ Astra Taylor & Marshall Steinbaum)
On this week’s episode of Lever Time: David Sirota is joined by The Lever’s Andrew Perez and Matthew Cunningham-Cook to discuss Joe Biden’s student debt relief plan and dissect the internet’s obsession with ‘Dark Brandon' (3:15). Then, David sits down with author, filmmaker, and co-founder of the Debt Collective, Astra Taylor, and Assistant Professor of Economics at the University of Utah, Marshall Steinbaum, for an in-depth analysis of Biden’s student debt relief plan (37:55). If you'd like access to Lever Time Premium, which includes extended interviews and bonus content, head over to LeverNews.com to become a s...
2022-08-311h 18The Same, but WorseOn Elite CaptureAndrew, Marshall, and Jerry take a dive into Olufemi Taiwo's book "Elite Capture" and try to figure out what diagnostic as well as prescriptive lessons it can teach us.
2022-06-151h 22
Left AnchorEpisode 59 RERUN - The Case for Student Debt CancellationIn this episode from the archives, we've got economist Marshall Steinbaum on to discuss his research on why it's necessary to cancel student debt, how to end segregation in higher education, and why the theory of "human capital" is a bunch of nonsense. Enjoy!
2022-06-1455 minThe Same, but WorsePodcasting as Allocation of Coordination RightsWe welcome to the podcast Sanjukta Paul to talk about her work in untangling the ball of twine that is modern antitrust. Come for the detailed history of trucking deregulation in the 90s, stay for the debate over how and to what end we should formulate social theories.
2022-04-291h 45The Same, but WorseThe Vibes DoctorsIn the absence of Marshall, Andrew and Jerry set about performing discourse surgery (spoiler: the patient died), trying to figure out why the vibes are fucked, and deploying our most sophisticated numerological tools to determine the most appropriate number of bullet points to have on your platform.
2022-04-191h 30Pitchfork Economics with Nick HanauerHow neoliberalism happened (with George Monbiot and Binyamin Appelbaum)It’s trendy to mock the malicious pervasiveness of neoliberalism now, but have you ever wondered what its origins are? This week, George Monbiot and Binyamin Appelbaum join the show to uncover just where the dominant economic theory of our time came from and how it took hold. This episode was originally recorded and released in October 2019.George Monbiot writes a weekly column for The Guardian and is the author of a number of books, most recently ‘Out of the Wreckage: A New Politics for an Age of Crisis’. As an investigative journalist and self-d...
2022-04-1259 minThe Same, but WorseEpisode 5 - Postwar Sitcoms as Engines of Citizen FormationWe're joined by Mike Cheyne, a genuine doctor of suburban studies, to walk us through the way that postwar sitcoms functioned as loci of formation of ideas about civic participation and citizenship, and how the TV revolution of the 70s steered into the neoliberal turn.
2022-03-112h 10
Innovation For All - Diversity in Tech and BusinessIt's illegal for Uber workers to strike. Marshall Steinbaum explains why. (Really though, WHY?)"Set the market and work when and how you like. You have complete control." At least that is what gig economy companies like Uber would have you believe. In this episode of the Innovation For All podcast, Sheana speaks with Marshall Steinbaum, Assistant Professor of Economics at University of Utah, to talk about the pitfalls of the gig economy. Find out how employers can have control over the workforce without being a monopoly and how gig workers may be getting the short end of the stick.You’ll learn: Why did Uber driver’s strike? What make...
2022-02-161h 03
Left Reckoning51 - Vampires Against Student Loan Forgiveness, Public Housing New M4A? & TX Tesla Deal w/ Marshall Steinbaum & Bob LibalDavid and Matt talk about what public housing can mean for the socialist movement, Marshall Steinbaum (@Econ_Marshall) debunking neoliberal arguments against student debt cancellation, and Bob Libal (@BobLibal) (@BobForCommish) joins us to talk about his critical campaign for Travis County Commissioner to ensure Austin can stay home to the working-class.
2022-01-272h 10The Same, but WorseEpisode 4 - Midwestern Populism, with Cory HaalaWe welcome our first guest, Cory Haala, to talk about the populist tradition in the Midwest. We discuss its roots and legacy and whether any lessons for our present moment can be gleaned from it.
2022-01-211h 49
Death PanelCancel Student Debt w/ Astra Taylor and Marshall Steinbaum (01/13/22)We're joined by Astra Taylor and Marshall Steinbaum for a conversation on why ending student debt is so pressing, the Biden administration's failure to fulfill its promises on student debt, and why we need a broader debt jubilee.
Astra Taylor is cofounder of the Debt Collective, a filmmaker, and the author of The People’s Platform: Taking Back Power and Culture in the Digital Age and Democracy May Not Exist, but We’ll Miss It When It’s Gone (Metropolitan Books).
Marshall Steinbaum is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the University of Utah and a Senior Fellow in Higher Educat...
2022-01-131h 09The Same, but WorseEpisode 3 - Second Time as FarceWith Marshall luxuriating in the Utah mountains (probably) and thus unavailable, Andrew and Jerry formulate a programmatic and try to dig out why it is that everything feels like a shittier retread all the time.
2022-01-071h 20The Same, but WorseIrrational Expectations - Part 2Andrew and Jerry kibbitz about the Volcker shock, how to get from here to utopia, and whether solidarity is possible in the age of neoliberal atomization. Fun!
2021-12-1052 minThe Same, but WorseIrrational ExpectationsMarshall, Andrew, and Jerry become the dads of the entire economics profession. We discuss the mystificatory nature of economic ideology, cast a side-eye on expertise, and attempt to sow discord between Friedmannians and Hayekians.
2021-12-061h 12The Same, but WorseGot My Mind on My Mannheim and My Mannheim on My MindGot My Mind on My Mannheim and My Mannheim on My Mind by Andrew Hart, Marshall Steinbaum, Jerry Vinokurov
2021-11-1156 min
The Marianne Williamson PodcastTRANSFORMING CAPITALISM PART 2Subscribe to Marianne's Substack, TRANSFORM: MarianneWilliamson.Substack.com In part 2 of Transforming Capitalism, we continue our examination of the ways in which modern American capitalism fails to adequately provide for the majority of Americans. We discuss some concrete policies that would ease the financial oppression that burdens so many of our citizens, and how a financially secure populace benefits us all. We hear about some hopeful signs that the tides might be turning against the entrenched orthodoxy of neoliberalism. OUR GUESTS ARE: Sarah Jaffe (@sarahljaffe) Nina Turner (@ninaturner)
2021-09-0726 min
The Marianne Williamson PodcastTRANSFORMING CAPITALISM Part 1This is Part One of our exploration of modern American capitalism. Our current economic model serves a small group of people at the expense of the economic security of the vast majority of Americans. Why is that true and how can we change it? Our podcast presents a rundown of how the United States has historically attempted to balance public and private interests, and how we have arrived in our current moment of wealth inequality and rampant economic injustice. The voices you hear in this episode include: - Stephanie Kelton: Stonybrook professor of economics and...
2021-08-2324 min
The American VandalWhy Trust In Antitrust? with Sanjukta Paul & Marshall SteinbaumWith a series of recent events indicating bipartisan interest in antitrust reform from Congress and the Supreme Court, host Matt Seybold speaks with Law Professor, Sanjukta Paul, and economist, Marshall Steinbaum, about the history of antitrust movements in the United States from Mark Twain's Gilded Age to the New Gilded Age, as well as why they advocate for antitrust as a mechanism for improving worker welfare, reducing inequality, and protecting democracy.
For more about this episode, including a complete bibliography, please visit MarkTwainStudies.com/Antitrust
2021-07-011h 08
The Daily Beast PodcastViolent Insurrection: It’s the New Camping!Those Trump supporters inside the Capitol on Jan. 6? The guy who made off with the lectern, the woman who stole Nancy Pelosi’s laptop? They weren’t actually rioting. “Look, I am not here to tour shame,” humorist and former Fox News personality Andy Levy tells Molly. Next, Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-AZ) comes on the show to talk about what’s happening on the border and how his state’s wacky election audit is going. Finally, economist Marshall Steinbaum joins Molly and co-host Jesse Cannon to talk about inflation, unemployment benefits, and why we shouldn’t worry about raising corporate taxes...
2021-05-1457 minPitchfork Economics with Nick HanauerRe-post: Does the market pay you what you’re worth? (with Marshall Steinbaum and Saru Jayaraman)The theory of marginal product of labor says that every worker is paid exactly what they’re worth—the value that their labor generates. Employers cite marginal productivity to legitimize paying the lowest wages possible, but that’s just another trickle-down scam. Economist Marshall Steinbaum and food labor expert Saru Jayaraman expose the lie of marginal productivity, and show how it’s been used to exploit workers for centuries. Marshall Steinbaum is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the University of Utah and a Senior Fellow of Higher Education Finance at the Jain Family Institute...
2021-02-1650 min
Michael and UsPREVIEW - Interview: How the Right Won the Economics War w/ Marshall SteinbaumPATREON BONUS - https://www.patreon.com/posts/47344547
Sometime after the Second World War, neoliberal economics became the default economic theory. How did this happen? And is there any hope for a return to New Deal economics? Our own Luke Savage talks to Marshall Steinbaum (writer and assistant professor of economics at the University of Utah) about how the neoclassical right’s astonishingly successful intellectual revolution came about, its core beliefs, and the profoundly antidemocratic animus it owes to the liberalism of the nineteenth century.
2021-02-0904 min
BelaboredBelabored: Stopping the Spread of Prop 22[contentblock id=belabored-info-ck]
California’s Proposition 22 locked in a second-tier status for gig economy workers through a ballot initiative in November, but Uber and Lyft drivers, among other gig workers, haven’t stopped organizing for better, in California and around the country. In today’s episode we dig into the issue in depth, first with Nicole Moore, a California driver with Rideshare Drivers United, who tells us about the organizing going on to fight for workers’ rights after Prop 22, and then with economist Marshall Steinbaum, who has studied the bill and its potential to spread across t...
2021-01-2200 min
Death PanelTeaser - Cancel Student Debt w/ Marshall Steinbaum (11/23/20)Subscribe on Patreon and hear the full episode here:
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We discuss the Tyson COVID betting scandal and the Times op-ed “I Traced My Covid-19 Bubble and It’s Enormous.” Then (40:45), Bea and Phil sit down with Marshall Steinbaum to discuss Biden's rather limp student debt plan, the origins of the myth that student debt relief is regressive economic policy, and why it's time for a debt jubilee.
Marshall Steinbaum is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the University of Utah and a Senior Fellow at the Jain Family Institute. Follow him on twitter @Econ_Marshall
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2020-11-2409 min
This Machine Kills18. Antitrust in the Aftermath (ft. Marshall Steinbaum)We’re joined by economist Marshall Steinbaum for a post-mortem on the election results as we work through some critical questions: What comes next? What does a Biden/Harris administration hold for the future of technology policy, labor organizing, and the American economy? What is to be done? How can aggressive antitrust action help stop the bleeding from Prop 22 and put workers on the offensive against capital? All this and more as Marshall lays out the terrain of the uphill battle ahead of us.
Follow Marshall on twitter: twitter.com/econ_marshall and check out his work: https://marshallsteinbaum.org/
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2020-11-111h 31
Left AnchorEpisode 155 - Socialism vs. Antitrust with Marshall SteinbaumToday we've got Marshall Steinbaum from the University of Utah to discuss whether socialism and antitrust (or antimonopoly) inherently trade off, or can complement each other. The Gabriel Winant review of Goliath we discuss can be found here. Enjoy!
PS: Unfortunately we had some more technical glitches during recording. Apologies, but everything should be reasonably comprehensible.
2020-09-121h 17
The DiscourseGIGGING THE ECONOMY w/ Marshall SteinbaumIn this episode, we are joined by Assistant Professor of Economics at the University of Utah and Jain Family Institute Senior Fellow, Higher Education Finance Marshall Steinbaum (@Econ_Marshall) to discuss the latest news regarding Uber and Lyft, the gig economy, and more.
2020-08-261h 06
Know Your EnemyKnow Your Frenemies (w/ Samuel Moyn)Matt and Sam welcome Yale historian Samuel Moyn to the show for a deep-dive into the Never Trump movement. Who are the Never Trumpers? How seriously should we take the heroic story they tell about themselves? Did they sink Bernie's campaign for the Democratic nomination? Have they reckoned with their role in paving the way for Trump? In trying to answer these questions the conversation moves from the baleful influence of Never Trumpers to a discussion of historical debates about over the rise of fascism, the perils of "tyrannophobia," and the possibilities for breaking through the hegemony of neoliberals an...
2020-08-091h 26
Know Your EnemyPandemic Politics (w/ Marshall Steinbaum & Sarah Jones)Matt and Sam are joined by two special guests, Sarah Jones and Marshall Steinbaum, who return to the show to take stock of where we're at: our failed response to the pandemic, the connections between the pandemic and the protests, and how all this might play out in November. The four of us range widely—but be warned, this is not the most inspiring conversation. Are there any reasons to be hopeful? Listen and find out.Sources Cited and Further Reading:Eric Levitz, "Coronavirus is Killing Our Economy because It Was Already Sick" (New York Mag...
2020-07-081h 31
Know Your EnemyThe Windbag City (w/ Marshall Steinbaum)Matt and Sam are finally joined by the show's longtime bête noire, Marshall Steinbaum, for a deep dive into the Chicago school of economics and the wreckage it's supported—from welcoming the birth defects caused by deregulating the pharmaceutical industry to justifying massive resistance to desegregation to being put in the service of Coronavirus truther-ism. Where did this iteration of libertarianism come from, intellectually and institutionally? Who are the key figures in the Chicago school? How have their ideas infected the way we all think about economics and politics? It's a sordid, depressing tale of rightwing money, intellectual dis...
2020-04-181h 49
The BruenigsGuest Marshall Steinbaum On Recent Developments in Tax Credit DiscourseSUBSCRIBE TO GET ALL EPISODES
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Matt is here with a special midweek bonus episode, talking to returning guest Marshall Steinbaum about the advanced tax rebate in the Coronavirus emergency legislation and the interesting ways in which that rebate was handled in the discourse. Ultimately we learn the EITC is bad, once again.
2020-04-0751 minInnovation For All - Diversity in Tech and BusinessIt's illegal for Uber workers to strike. Marshall Steinbaum explains why. (Really though, WHY?)"Set the market and work when and how you like. You have complete control." At least that is what gig economy companies like Uber would have you believe. In this episode of the Innovation For All podcast, Sheana speaks with Marshall Steinbaum, Assistant Professor of Economics at University of Utah, to talk about the pitfalls of the gig economy. Find out how employers can have control over the workforce without being a monopoly and how gig workers may be getting the short end of the stick.
You’ll learn:
Why did Uber driver’s strike?
What make...
2020-04-011h 03
Working PeopleWorkers' Toolkit: ANTITRUST (w/ Marshall Steinbaum)In The Workers' Toolkit we take deep dives into the legal and institutional barriers that prevent workers from building collective power in the United Stated today. In this first installment, we talk with economist Marshall Steinbaum about the history of antitrust law in this country, how it shapes workers' lives, and what we can do about it. Additional links/info below... Marshall's Twitter page and faculty page Marshall Steinbaum, Law and Contemporary Problems, "Antitrust, the Gig Economy, and Labor Market Power" Marshall Steinbaum, The American Prospect, "Uber's Antitrust Problem" David Weil, Institute for New Ec...
2020-02-281h 15
The Age of Jackson Podcast092 Polygamy in Early American History with Sarah M. S. PearsallToday we tend to think of polygamy as an unnatural marital arrangement characteristic of fringe sects or uncivilized peoples. Historian Sarah Pearsall shows us that polygamy’s surprising history encompasses numerous colonies, indigenous communities, and segments of the American nation. Polygamy—as well as the fight against it—illuminates many touchstones of American history: the Pueblo Revolt and other uprisings against the Spanish; Catholic missions in New France; New England settlements and King Philip’s War; the entrenchment of African slavery in the Chesapeake; the Atlantic Enlightenment; the American Revolution; missions and settlement in the West; and the rise of Mormonis...
2020-01-3156 min
Current AffairsUNLOCKED! Student Debt Special (feat. Allie Conti, Marshall Steinbaum and Matt Bruenig)Unlocked from our Patreon feed, here's a little bonus for you all!
Current Affairs finance editor Sparky Abraham sits down with Vice writer Allie Conti, economics professor Marshall Steinbaum and People's Policy Project founder Matt Bruenig to discuss the question of cancelling student debt, in light of Bernie Sanders' and Elizabeth Warren's recent plans for college debt forgiveness.
This episode was originally made available for Patreon subscribers in July 2019. To gain full access to more episodes like this, please consider becoming one of our supporters at www.patreon.com/CurrentAffairs!
Allie on student debt forgiveness: https://www.vice.com/amp...
2020-01-151h 07The Age of Jackson Podcast087 The Influence of Christianity at the Founding and in the Early Republic with Mark David HallMany Americans have been taught a distorted, inaccurate account of our nation’s founding, one that claims that the founders were deists who desired the strict separation of church and state and that the country’s founding political ideas developed without reference to Christianity. In this revelatory, rigorously argued new book, Mark David Hall thoroughly debunks that modern myth and shows instead that the founders’ political ideas were profoundly influenced by their Christian convictions.Drawing from hundreds of personal letters, public proclamations, early state constitutions and laws, and other original documents, Professor Hall makes the airtight case that Americ...
2019-12-061h 16The Age of Jackson Podcast086 The Panic of 1819, The First Great Depression with Andrew H. BrowningThe Panic of 1819: The First Great Depression tells the story of the first nationwide economic collapse to strike the United States. Much more than a banking crisis or real estate bubble, the Panic was the culmination of an economic wave that rolled through the United States, forming before the War of 1812, cresting with the land and cotton boom of 1818, and crashing just as the nation confronted the crisis over slavery in Missouri.The Panic introduced Americans to the new phenomenon of boom and bust, changed the country's attitudes towards wealth and poverty, spurred the political movement that became...
2019-11-291h 15The Age of Jackson Podcast085 Antebellum American Messiahs with Adam MorrisMania surrounding messianic prophets has defined the national consciousness since the American Revolution. From Civil War veteran and virulent anticapitalist Cyrus Teed, to the dapper and overlooked civil rights pioneer Father Divine, to even the megalomaniacal Jim Jones, these figures have routinely been dismissed as dangerous and hysterical outliers.After years of studying these emblematic figures, Adam Morris demonstrates that messiahs are not just a classic trope of our national culture; their visions are essential for understanding American history. As Morris demonstrates, these charismatic, if flawed, would-be prophets sought to expose and ameliorate deep social ills-such as income...
2019-11-011h 20The Age of Jackson Podcast084 A Religious History of the Mexican-American War with John C. PinheiroThe term "Manifest Destiny" has traditionally been linked to U.S. westward expansion in the nineteenth century, the desire to spread republican government, and racialist theories like Anglo-Saxonism. Yet few people realize the degree to which Manifest Destiny and American republicanism relied on a deeply anti-Catholic civil-religious discourse. John C. Pinheiro traces the rise to prominence of this discourse, beginning in the 1820s and culminating in the Mexican-American War of 1846-1848.Pinheiro begins with the social reformer and Protestant evangelist Lyman Beecher, who was largely responsible for synthesizing seemingly unrelated strands of religious, patriotic, expansionist, and political sentiment...
2019-10-181h 26The Age of Jackson Podcast083 The Battle of Negro Fort with Matthew J. ClavinIn the aftermath of the War of 1812, Major General Andrew Jackson ordered a joint United States army-navy expedition into Spanish Florida to destroy a free and independent community of fugitive slaves. The result was the Battle of Negro Fort, a brutal conflict among hundreds of American troops, Indian warriors, and black rebels that culminated in the death or re-enslavement of nearly all of the fort’s inhabitants. By eliminating this refuge for fugitive slaves, the United States government closed an escape valve that African Americans had utilized for generations. At the same time, it intensified the subjugation of southern Native Am...
2019-10-111h 05Pitchfork Economics with Nick HanauerHow neoliberalism happened (with George Monbiot and Binyamin Appelbaum)It’s trendy to mock the malicious pervasiveness of neoliberalism now, but have you ever wondered what its origins are? This week, George Monbiot and Binyamin Appelbaum join the show to uncover just where the dominant economic theory of our time came from and how it took hold. George Monbiot writes a weekly column for The Guardian and is the author of a number of books, most recently ‘Out of the Wreckage: A New Politics for an Age of Crisis’. As an investigative journalist and self-described “professional troublemaker,” George uncovers the complicated truths behind the world’s most persiste...
2019-10-0859 minPitchfork Economics with Nick HanauerDoes the market really pay you what you’re worth? (with Marshall Steinbaum and Saru Jayaraman)The theory of marginal product of labor says that every worker is paid exactly what they’re worth—the value that their labor generates. Employers cite marginal productivity to legitimize paying the lowest wages possible, but it’s just another trickle-down scam. Economist Marshall Steinbaum and food labor expert Saru Jayaraman join us this week to expose the lie of marginal productivity and show how it’s been used to exploit workers for centuries. Marshall Steinbaum is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the University of Utah and a Senior Fellow of Higher Education Finance at the Jain Fami...
2019-09-1050 minThe Age of Jackson Podcast082 'Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture (2000)' Reloaded with Michael A. BellesilesIn 1996 Emory University’s Michael A. Bellesiles, published an article in the Journal of American History: “The Origins of Gun Culture in the United States, 1760-1865.” His provocative argument was that there were nowhere near as many guns in early America as people had previously assumed and that American gun culture was born in the lead up to the Civil War. To prove his thesis, Bellesiles pointed to low counts of guns in probate records, gun censuses, militia muster records, and homicide accounts. While his article caused some debate, it received wide praise and eventfully served as the basis for Arming...
2019-08-221h 27The Age of Jackson Podcast080 Native Nations and the United States from the American Revolution to Bleeding Kansas with Jeffrey OstlerThe first part of a sweeping two-volume history of the devastation brought to bear on Indian nations by U.S. expansion.In this book, the first part of a sweeping two-volume history, Jeffrey Ostler investigates how American democracy relied on Indian dispossession and the federally sanctioned use of force to remove or slaughter Indians in the way of U.S. expansion. He charts the losses that Indians suffered from relentless violence and upheaval and the attendant effects of disease, deprivation, and exposure. This volume centers on the eastern United States from the 1750s to the start of the...
2019-08-021h 22
Have You Heard#70 The Case for Making College FreeEconomist Marshall Steinbaum talks free college, human capital theory, educationism and why it’s time to disrupt the individualized logic of higher education.
2019-07-3031 min
Have You Heard#70 The Case for Making College FreeEconomist Marshall Steinbaum talks free college, human capital theory, educationism and why it’s time to disrupt the individualized logic of higher education.
2019-07-3031 minCurrent AffairsPREVIEW: Student Debt Special (feat. Allie Conti, Marshall Steinbaum and Matt Bruenig)Current Affairs finance editor Sparky Abraham sits down with Vice writer Allie Conti, economics professor Marshall Steinbaum and People's Policy Project founder Matt Bruenig to discuss the question of cancelling student debt, in light of Bernie Sanders' and Elizabeth Warren's recent plans for college debt forgiveness.
This episode will be unlocked in full soon, but is available now in full for Patreon subscribers. To receive early access to episodes like this, as well as exclusive bonus content, consider becoming one of our patrons at www.patreon.com/CurrentAffairs.
2019-07-1101 min
Innovation For All - Diversity in Tech and BusinessIt's illegal for Uber workers to strike. Marshall Steinbaum explains why. (Really though, WHY?)"Set the market and work when and how you like. You have complete control." At least that is what gig economy companies like Uber would have you believe. In this episode of the Innovation For All podcast, Sheana speaks with Marshall Steinbaum, Assistant Professor of Economics at University of Utah, to talk about the pitfalls of the gig economy. Find out how employers can have control over the workforce without being a monopoly and how gig workers may be getting the short end of the stick.
You’ll learn:
Why did Uber driver’s strike?
What make...
2019-07-101h 03
Working People"You Are Not A Loan" (w/ Ami Schneider & Sanders Fabares)Last Monday, Representatives Ilhan Omar, Pramila Jayapal, and Senator Bernie Sanders unveiled the Student Debt Cancellation Act of 2019, which includes a plan to wipe out the $1.6 trillion in student debt held by 45 million Americans. In this this special episode, we talk to Ami Schneider and Sanders Fabares, two debt holders and graduates from the for-profit Art Institute college chain who decided to fight back and get involved in anti-debt organizing through the Debt Collective. Additional links/info below... The Debt Collective website, Facebook page, and Twitterpage Lucy Diavolo, Teen Vogue, "Bernie Sanders Teamed Up Wi...
2019-06-301h 01The Age of Jackson Podcast079 The Bank War and the Partisan Press with Stephen W. CampbellPresident Andrew Jackson’s conflict with the Second Bank of the United States was one of the most consequential political struggles in the early nineteenth century. A fight over the bank’s reauthorization, the Bank War, provoked fundamental disagreements over the role of money in politics, competing constitutional interpretations, equal opportunity in the face of a state-sanctioned monopoly, and the importance of financial regulation—all of which cemented emerging differences between Jacksonian Democrats and Whigs. As Stephen W. Campbell argues here, both sides in the Bank War engaged interregional communications networks funded by public and private money. The first reappraisal of thi...
2019-06-281h 20The BruenigsDoes the EITC Suck or Is It Good? (ft. Marshall Steinbaum and Kevin Werner)Does the Earned Income Tax Credit suck. Or is it actually good? And if it does suck, precisely why does it suck? These are the questions the expert panel get into.
2019-06-111h 06
Left AnchorEpisode 59 - Interview with @Econ_Marshall on Elizabeth Warren's Free College ProposalThis time we bring on economist Marshall Steinbaum to talk about his article praising Elizabeth Warren's free college/student debt cancellation proposal, plus his previous articles discussing ending segregation in higher education, and a broader theory of why college should be considered a public good, not a method of building up "human capital." Enjoy!
2019-04-2755 minThe Same, but WorseThis Is Fine - Episode 3.1Not quite in time for a Thanksgiving argument with your Facebook uncle, but well ahead of schedule for a Christmas argument with the same, we're pleased to bring you a breakdown of the November elections.
2018-11-3053 min
Macro Musings with David Beckworth125 – Sam Hammond on Co-Determination, Corporate Governance, and the Accountable Capitalism ActSam Hammond is a policy analyst and covers topics in poverty and welfare for the Niskanen Center. Sam is a previous guest on Macro Musings, and he joins the show today to talk about his new article in National Review which addresses Senator Elizabeth Warren's new proposal, the Accountable Capitalism Act, and its potentially negative effects. David and Sam also discuss the problematic stereotypes surrounding 'corporate bigness', the positive and negative features of co-determination, and why we need universal safety nets. Sam's Twitter: @hamandcheese Sam's Medium profile: https://medium.com/@hamandcheese Related Links: *Elizabeth Warren's Corporate Catastrophe* by Sam Hammond...
2018-09-2457 minThe Same, but WorseEpisode 2.2 - The World Only Spins... Forward?On this episode, we speak with writer and theater director Isaac Butler, who is the author, with Dan Kois, of a new oral history of Tony Kushner's "Angels In America," titled "The World Only Spins Forward." As always, we do a brief review of recent notable political events and then get to talking about what "Angels" accomplished and what it means today.
2018-03-141h 07The Same, but WorseEpisode 2.1 - That Was The Year That WasWelcome back, Finers! We've returned after a long, child-induced hiatus, just in time to fire up Season 2: Everything Is Still Fine, There's Nothing To Worry About, Really. On this episode, intrepid reporter Sam Thielman joins us for a retrospective on perhaps the dumbest year in American history; we discuss everything from Russian ad buys on Facebook to the Virginia governor's race, and make 100% ironclad predictions about how the following year is going to play out.
2017-11-121h 20The Same, but WorseThis Is Fine - Episode 1.16 - Part 2Part 2 of our conversation with Alex Wellerstein. This is a re-upload because the initial version was missing non-Alex tracks.
2017-08-0853 minThe Same, but WorseEpisode 1.16 - No Nukes is Good Nukes... Or Is It? - Part 1Welcome to Episode 1.16: No Nukes Is Good Nukes, or Is It? Thanks for listening, Finers; please subscribe and leave us a review on iTunes or your favorite podcast app, and make sure to keep a copy of this episode in your local fallout shelter. In this two-parter, we get down into the details of nuclear weapons history with Alex Wellerstein of the Stevens Institute of Technology. We discuss various efforts intended to achieve nuclear disarmament, who has the authority for nuclear weapons use, what are the biggest threats facing us in the future, and what you can do to reduce...
2017-07-3058 minThe Same, but WorseEpisode 1.15 - Contraventional WisdomWelcome to This Is Fine episode 1.15: Contraventional Wisdom. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, we talk about Iran-Contra, a little over thirty years after Reagan’s apology to the country for the scandal in March 1987. We focus mainly on Malcolm Byrne’s conclusive 2014 book, “Iran-Contra: Reagan’s Scandal and the Unchecked Abuse of Presidential Power,” which takes advantage of extensive primary source documents unavailable to Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh during his investigation of the scandal in the late 1980s. We discuss the scandal and its parallels to the Trump administration today. As always, the show notes a...
2017-07-071h 11The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.14: Heads I Win, Tails You LoseWelcome to This Is Fine episode 1.14: Heads I Win, Tails You Lose. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, Judith Miller, a law professor at the University of Chicago who worked as a federal public defender, joins us to give a public defender’s perspective on our criminal justice system. We discuss some of the criminal and civil protections for police officers, including ways in which the exclusionary rule has been hollowed out. We also discuss the ways that the defense is handicapped relative to the prosecution, in pre-trial evidence gathering, sentence reduction offers for test...
2017-06-231h 09The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.13: Mo' Prisons, Mo' ProblemsWelcome to This Is Fine episode 1.13: Mo' Prisons, Mo' Problems. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, we discuss mass incarceration and some of the injustice in our criminal justice system. We discuss Michelle Alexander’s New Jim Crow and Chris Hayes’ A Colony in a Nation. We briefly touch on order: police shootings, underpolicing, and the difficulty of prosecuting police misconduct. We also look at the law: tax farming of citizens, prosecutorial discretion and misconduct, plea bargains, and the consequences of judicial elections. Finally we look at some possible criminal justice reforms. As always, the sh...
2017-06-041h 14
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.12 - Health Care? More Like Health Don't Care!Welcome to This Is Fine episode 1.12. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, we take on the state of American health care, discussing at length the recently passed Republican zombie bill, the American Health Care Act, as well as Elizabeth Rosenthal’s book, An American Sickness, which discusses health care’s broken cost structure. We discuss some of the paths forward for health care reform, and then close with a rare foray into current events, as the Trump administration’s recklessness manages to flabbergast even us. As always, the show notes are available at http://www.this...
2017-05-251h 13The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.11 - The New, New Marshall PlanWelcome to This Is Fine episode 1.11: The New, New Marshall Plan. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, guest Marshall Steinbaum, a senior economist and fellow at the Roosevelt Institute, joins us to discuss how there is no free market to be found in the state of nature and how the United States has always had an active industrial policy, often favoring the wealthy. We discuss why the movement to defund and privatize public goods like education coincided with the civil rights’ movement attempt to extend those goods to non-whites. Finally, we touch on the ways...
2017-05-021h 09
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.10 - Fox PopuliWelcome to This Is Fine episode 1.10: Fox Populi. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, guest Sam Thielman helps us understand the business model that has sustained Fox News. We also talk about the ways in which state and local politicians have conspired with large corporations in places like Chattanooga, Tennessee to keep rural services like broadband expensive and only available through corporate oligopolies. Is fighting against monopoly power a way forward for the Left? As always, the show notes are available at http://www.thisisfine.net/2017/04/20/episode-1-10-fox-populi/.
2017-04-2041 min
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.9 - Sons of AutarkyWelcome to This Is Fine episode 1.9: Sons of Autarky. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, we talk about how the crisis of declining male labor force participation, the opioid epidemic, the Trump vote, and racism are all connected by one powerful narrative, autarkic patriarchal white labor (APWL). That’s the belief that a man's purpose is to provide for his family and that purpose can be only honored by certain types of work. Examining APWL, we look at some of the damage this story many men tell themselves has caused, and we look for a wa...
2017-04-0656 min
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.8: Any Organized PartyWelcome to This is Fine, Episode 1.8: Any Organized Party. Thank you for listening, Finers. In this week's podcast, we talk with writer, academic, activist, and erstwhile Twitter-opinion-haver Freddie DeBoer about the challenges of left organizing in the runup to the 2018 elections. We contemplate whether the left can usefully cooperate with the Democratic Party, ask what a more small-d-democratic platform would look like, and bemoan the broken media ecosystem.
Show notes are available at our website, http://www.thisisfine.net/2017/03/23/episode-1-8-any-organized-party/
2017-03-231h 11
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.7 - How Deep is Your State?Welcome to This Is Fine, episode 1.7: How Deep Is Your State? Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, we talk Turkey, or specifically the differences between the Deep State in a country like Turkey and the law enforcement and intelligence services in the U.S., particularly their leaks about the Trump campaign's involvement with Russia. As always, the show notes are available at www.thisisfine.net.
2017-03-091h 00The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.6 - part 2 - It's Time For Some Game TheoryEpisode 1.6 - part 2 - It's Time For Some Game Theory by Andrew Hart, Marshall Steinbaum, Jerry Vinokurov
2017-02-2844 min
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.6 - part 1 - Organize, Organize, OrganizeEpisode 1.6 - part 1 - Organize, Organize, Organize by Andrew Hart, Marshall Steinbaum, Jerry Vinokurov
2017-02-1656 min
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.5 - Trump of the ElitesWelcome to This Is Fine, episode 1.5: Trump of the Elites. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, we use Chris Hayes' Twilight of the Elites as a jumping off point for a discussion of elites, experts, and ways that we might improve institutional trust and accountability. As always, the show notes are available at www.thisisfine.net.
2017-02-021h 10
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.4: No State SolutionWelcome to This Is Fine, episode 1.4, no state solution. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, we look at foreign policy in the Obama and Trump eras, asking whether Obama really constitutes a break from previous presidencies, when intervention might be justified, how much disruption we can expect from Trump, and whether there's any hope for Israel. Here's hoping we survive the inauguration.
As always, the show notes are available at www.thisisfine.net.
2017-01-181h 06
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.3: The media is the message - part 2Hello friends, and welcome to the second half of our discussion of the state of American news media. You can find the show notes at our website (http://www.thisisfine.net/2016/12/21/episode-1-3-the-media-is-the-message/), and make sure you take a listen to part 1 to get the full context.
2017-01-0542 min
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.3: The media is the messageWelcome to This Is Fine, episode 1.3, part 1: the media is the message. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, we look at the Shorenstein Center's review of media coverage in the election, shake our heads in disbelief at the Times' need for approval and dismal new public editor, and ask if the media's coverage of Trump is newly dangerous or part of a continuum of decline in political reporting.
2016-12-2132 minThe Same, but WorseEpisode 1.2: Argumentum Ad PopulumWelcome to This Is Fine, episode 1.2: argumentum ad populum. Thank you very much for listening, Finers. In this week’s podcast, we share our origin story in Southern California; explore what populism is and if it can turn left (verdict: not an ambi-turner); make the case that a Nazi political theorist is not in the best position to diagnose liberalism's faults; and sketch out our visions of protest in the Trump era. Articles discussed in this episode:
Jedediah Purdy, "Populism's Two Paths" in The Nation
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-two-populisms/
Malloy Owen, "Don't Mourn, Repoliticize" in The Point Magazine
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2016-12-0754 min
The Same, but WorseEpisode 1.1 : WTF?! This Is Not Fine!Welcome to This Is Fine, episode 1.1: WTF? This is Not Fine! Thank you very much for listening.
In this week's podcast, we ask:
How the fuck did that happen? How heroic really were Wright Patman and other segregationist Democrats who fought against corporate power until the changing of the Democratic guard in the 1970s? How did Trump make hate taste so great to so many? And what are our views of the horrific near future and how we might combat it?
Remember: please try to not kill your relatives at Thanksgiving, and please send us reader questions for This is...
2016-11-221h 00