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Sound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceBONUS: Introducing Policy CrimesIntro Transcript:Hi, this is Matt Fullbrook with a bit of a first for this platform. Today, I’m sharing with you a full episode of SOMEONE ELSE’S podcast. It’s called Policy Crimes, and it’s hosted by a dude called Tristan Markle. The first season of Policy Crimes explores the question: what does homelessness cost? Through interviews with some super interesting experts and academics, Tristan discovers that the answer – financially, socially, politically, and more – is waaay more interesting and complex than you might think. But… in my opinion, at least, the complexity points to some...
2025-09-0659 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceBONUS: Board evaluations don't work...but they could!A new long-form scripted podcast episode where Matt Fullbrook discusses the shortcomings of board evaluations and shares some new ideas to improve on the status quo. The argument builds on practical experience, academic research, and an analogy to modern music production.Full transcript available at https://groundupgovernance.substack.com/p/bonus-board-evaluations-dont-workbut Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2025-08-1143 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS3E4 - You can design good governance on your ownTRANSCRIPTMatt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and this is the fourth and final episode in this short yet super cool series about the relationship between corporate governance and human-centered design. Once again, the voices you'll hear belong to me. Michael Hartmann, who's the principal of the directors college at McMaster University, Karel Vredenburg, who was global VP of UX research at IBM, and Tara Safaie, who's the executive Director of Health and Organizational Innovation at the design firm IDEO. In this episode, we take some steps...
2025-07-0708 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS3E3 - Are Family Businesses Natural Design Thinkers?TRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This is the third episode in a short series of highlights from a webinar that I co-hosted last year with my great friend Michael Hartmann. He's the Principal of the Directors College at McMaster University. He invited his friends, Karel Vredenburg, who was Global VP of UX Research at IBM, and Tara Safaie, who's the Executive director of Health and Organizational innovation at the design firm IDEO. The four of us talked through a bunch of interesting questions around the intersection of corporate governance and...
2025-06-3009 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS3E2 - Designing effective governance conditionsTRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and this is the second episode in a short series of highlights from a webinar that I co hosted a few months ago with my friend Michael Hartmann. He's the Principal of the Directors College at McMaster University, and he invited his friends Karel Vredenburg, who up until recently was the Global VP of UX Research, IBM, and Tara Safaie, who's the Executive Director of Health and Organizational Innovation at the design firm IDEO. All three of Michael, Tara and...
2025-06-2312 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute GovernanceNew from Sound-Up Governance: Are design and good governance the same thing?Bonus Crossover Episode from Sound-Up Governance. For more info, visit http://www.groundupgovernance.com   TRANSCRIPT Matt Intro Hi everyone! This is Matt Fullbrook. It’s been a LOOOONG time since I posted anything here on the OMG channel, and…actually I don’t have any real updates for you. Sorry! I just wanted to let you know that there’s some new content on the Sound-Up Governance podcast. I’ve just launched a short series of episodes based around a cool webinar I did last year with some experts in business design wher...
2025-06-1614 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS3E1 - Are design and good governance the same thing?TRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and today we have the first in a short series of episodes that come from a webinar that I co hosted a few months back with my old friend Michael Hartmann, who's the Principal of the Directors College at McMaster University. He invited a couple of his friends to join us. Karel Vredenburg, who was the global VP of UX Research at IBM, and Tara Safaie, who's the executive Director of Health and Organizational Innovation at the design firm, IDEO...
2025-06-1614 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E10: Is there really a clear line between board and management? (feat. Andrew Escobar)TRANSCRIPTMatt Voiceover: 00:00Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and this is the tenth and final episode in my epic conversation with my brilliant governance friend, Andrew Escobar. Today's episode is a bit longer than the others in this series because were working through some thinking on a really interesting topic. Between the board chair, the CEO, and the rest of the executive team, who should be deciding exactly what we talk about and how deep we dive and when? Is it possible that there ought, in fact, to be no...
2025-04-0815 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E9 - Useful AI considerations for boards (feat. Andrew Escobar)TRANSCRIPTMatt Voiceover: 00:00 Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and today we have the ninth installment of my conversation with Andrew Escobar, a corporate director, open finance expert and keen AI tinkerer. Andrew was one of the first people I knew who built their own LLM model. So I was interested to ask him AI related stuff might be on his mind as a director. For reference, this conversation took place in September 2024, which in AI terms is like 500 years ago. Still, in my opinion at least, Andrew's insights are just...
2025-03-3107 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E8 - How do you know if you're being useful to management? (feat. Andrew Escobar)Matt Voiceover00:09Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and today's the eighth episode from my epic conversation with my friend and trusted governance ally, Andrew Escobar. If you've been listening to this whole season so far, can we just take a second and marvel at how much cool stuff Andrew has to say? And there are still at least three more episodes to go. Today he gives us some advice about how to build confidence as a director that you're being useful to management. After all, management is the consu...
2025-03-1707 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E7 - Why don't we break into groups during board meetings? (feat. Andrew Escobar)TRANSCRIPTMATT VOICEOVERWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and I'm back for another episode with governance rogue and open finance expert, Andrew Escobar. We left off the previous episode talking about the potential for informality to enhance decision making in boardroom. Today we build on that and suggest one very specific, highly doable thing that you and your board could try right away. It's easy, it saves time, and it costs nothing. Before we get there, I'm going to drop you into the middle of a point I...
2025-03-1007 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E6 - An easy shortcut to avoiding director liability? (feat. Andrew Escobar)TRANSCRIPT: MATT VOICEOVERWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and when I left off last time with Andrew Escobar, governance nerd and reliable partner in exploring vaguely countercultural topics, we had talked through an exercise that I conduct with boards and executives on considering the benefits and harms of our decisions on a variety of stakeholders. Andrew had expressed some concern that focusing on harms might be distracting to boards when they're trying to drive toward a positive organizational purpose. And that's where we pick up our conversation here....
2025-03-0306 minThe Boardroom 180 Podcast
The Boardroom 180 PodcastShifting ‘The Base’ of Governance with Matt FullbrookIn this episode, host Munir Haque welcomes Matt Fullbrook, creator of the One Minute Governance podcast and the Ground-Up Governance platform, to the show to discuss his 23 years of experience in more than 300 boardrooms, ranging from local non-profits to global corporations. Through extensive research, Matt discovered that there’s not much consensus in academic literature about the impact of governance on financial performance or leadership effectiveness. This prompted him to redefine governance for himself, moving beyond traditional frameworks to develop a more evidence-based and practical approach that he discusses with Munir.  Matt currently experiments wit...
2025-02-2545 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E5 - Considering the interests of every stakeholder in 15 minutes (feat. Andrew Escobar)TRANSCRIPTMATT VOICEOVERWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook and this episode continues my conversation with my great friend, Andrew Escobar, who's a governance nerd, corporate director, open finance expert, and big thinker based, like me, in Toronto. I shared with Andrew an exercise that I've conducted with boards, executives and other curious people in the governance space more than a thousand times over the past 12 plus years. If that sounds like an obsession, it's because it is. I wanted to talk through it with Andrew because I feel like it's...
2025-02-1709 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E4 - Empowering Directors to be Great (feat. Andrew Escobar)TRANSCRIPTMATT VOICEOVERWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook. Once again, our guest is my great friend Andrew Escobar, corporate director, open finance advocate, and big thinker. In today's episode, we discuss what it takes for a director to feel empowered to be great and whether it might be a good thing for boards to be friends. Let's dive in.MATTWhat might it look like to empower any person, a person in the room, to behave like a great director instead of a not-so-great director?
2025-02-1007 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E3 - Asking questions isn't enough (feat. Andrew Escobar)TRANSCRIPT:MATT VOICEOVERWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This is the third episode of our new revamped format. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and once again our featured guest is governance nerd, open finance specialist, funky mustache sporting genius, Andrew Escobar. You might notice that the illustration of Andrew in the episode thumbnail does not include include said mustache. Sorry about that. Anyway, board composition might be the most debated topic in corporate governance. What expertise and skills should we have in boardrooms? What about diversity? Board size? independence? To me, though, the most important...
2025-01-2705 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E2 - Andrew Escobar on what good governance looks like on a normal dayTRANSCRIPTMATT VOICEOVERHi, my name is Matt Fullbrook and this is Sound-Up Governance. The second episode in a brand new format where we zero in for few minutes one expert's perspective on a very specific corporate governance question or topic. Once again, my guest is Andrew Escobar, an experienced corporate director, open banking expert and super thoughtful big thinker on board stuff in general. I've done a lot of reflecting over the past year on whether we might be overdoing it when we look for answers to governance questions by looking at catastrophic failures...
2025-01-2006 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceS2E1 - Andrew Escobar on defining good governanceTRANSCRIPT:MATT VOICEOVERHi everyone, this is Matt Fullbrook. Welcome to a whole new chapter of the Sound-Up Governance podcast where I'll talking to big thinkers in corporate governance and learning from them about the "how" of being a great corporate director or executive. Think of it as an interview show, but broken into really focused chunks. Each episode will zoom in one person's perspective on a very specific topic and will last just a few minutes. If I can keep up the pace, my hope is to also craft original music for every single...
2025-01-2009 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute GovernanceANNOUNCEMENT: Sound-Up Governance is back on January 20thHead to http://www.groundupgovernance.com for more   TRANSCRIPT: Hi everyone, this is Matt Fullbrook and I'm back on the Ground-Up Governance platform after a long absence and I've got a new idea. If you're listening to this on a mainstream podcast platform and don't know what I'm talking about, head over to groundupgovernance.com and just start putting poking around. It's the only place you'll be able to check out this new idea, at least for the time being. So, long story short, I created Ground-Up Governance with the amazing Nate Schmold. He's...
2025-01-0803 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance252. Season 5 wrap-upOMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Here we are at the end of another season of OMG. Invariably, during the process of writing the last episode of a season of the show, I find myself wondering if I’ll do another one. Not because I don’t want to or because I think it’s not worth it. It’s just never clear if I’ll have any more ideas, let alone FIFTY more ideas. So, who knows? Anyway, I don’t know about you but I think this season h...
2024-12-1901 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance251. What is the point of the question I'm about to ask?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #49: What is the point of the question I’m about to ask? By proposing this question, I guess I’m basically recommending a bit of cognitive behavioural therapy for directors. I won’t dive into CBT other than to say it can help people to develop habits to manage undesired thoughts or behaviours. And if you listen back to the intro of this season...
2024-12-1601 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance250. What, specifically, are we going to do better next time?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #48: What, specifically, are we going to do better next time? I could’ve made this the shortest episode ever by just stating the question and leaving it at that. I suspect it’s obvious what the point of this question is and why it matters. It forces us to abandon the assumption that we’re perfect, and prompts us to make – and hopefully follow th...
2024-12-1201 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance249. Are we compromising instead of being intentional?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #46: Are we compromising instead of being intentional? Don’t get me wrong: compromise is a useful hack. Both in the “let’s make everyone equally unhappy” sense and the “let’s shoot down the middle instead of taking an extreme position” sense. And I think compromise is often really appropriate in boardrooms. That said, compromise often turns into a habit, especially in situations where we’re rea...
2024-12-0901 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance248. Is the way we do things valuable for our owners/members?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #46: Is the way we do things valuable for our owners/members? We’ve said before on the show – including a few times this season – that questions about owners or shareholders or members or whatever term is applicable for your corporation...have different implications and flavours in different jurisdictions. Let’s also note that we’re asking if the way we do things is “valuable” to...
2024-12-0501 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance247. Is the way we do things working for management?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #45: Is the way we do things working for management? Today’s question kinda revisits what we talked about back in episodes 214, 215 and 216, except at this point we’ve answered a lot more questions that will help us do a better job here. Even though for the most part I work FOR boards, it’s most often management that reaches out to me first. In part...
2024-12-0201 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance246. Is the way we do things working for my fellow board members?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #44: Is the way we do things working for my fellow board members? I did a session a few months ago with a group of board chairs of cool complex organizations. I made a case to them – similar to the one from the previous episode – that each person in the room has different needs and preferences, and that an important part of a board chair...
2024-11-2701 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance245. Is the way we do things working for me?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #43: Is the way we do things working for me? I’ve said before on OMG and elsewhere that your work as a director isn’t about you. You’re serving others. Nonetheless, you’re still a human being with your own preferences, moods, skills, experience and needs. Sometimes mundane things will dramatically affect the way you show up for something – even if it’s something s...
2024-11-2501 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance244. What are we excited about?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #42: What are we excited about? I know that boardrooms aren’t typically environments that provoke much excitement. And I’m not trying to pretend that getting excited is really the point of a board’s work. But just because it’s not the point doesn’t mean that it’s not worth aiming for. Yes, it’s true that the emotions we feel when we’re in a...
2024-11-2101 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance243. What are we afraid of?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #41: What are we afraid of? I wonder if you’ve noticed something that I’ve started to notice lately. There’s a bit of a trend among people who think and speak and write about corporate governance where some of them seem to be trying to pathologize the way that people behave in boardrooms. For example, classifying boardrooms as places where people are scared...
2024-11-1801 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance242. Is the way we do things likely to make the world a better place?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #40: Is the way we do things likely to make the world a better place? It’s a coincidence – an actual for real coincidence – that the chunk of my calendar that I had blocked off to write the last batch of scripts for this season of OMG landed on November 6th, 2024. I’m a Canadian living in Canada, but the weight of last night’s US Presid...
2024-11-1402 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance241. How much should we obsess over our customers' needs and desires?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #39: How much should we obsess over our customers’ needs and desires? I’ve only relatively recently become familiar with the world of business design. Ya, given my positioning for more than 20 years inside an academic institution with a powerful business design pedigree, I should probably be a bit embarrassed. But my shamelessness is so profound that honestly, I’m totally fine. Anyway, one of the...
2024-11-1101 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance240. How well do we really know and trust each other?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #38: How well do we really know and trust each other? You know what governance myth I find super nonsense? That it’s somehow bad for directors to know and like each other. I remember way back in my early days as a researcher on governance projects at the University of Toronto we used to scan through public filings in granular detail looking for the...
2024-11-0701 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance239. What's one thing we do that's completely useless?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #37: What’s one thing we do that’s completely useless? This is probably the most self-evident question in the entire season. It’s true that baked into this question is an assumption that there’s at least one thing your board does that is, in fact, completely useless. As in, it adds no value to anyone in any way. Maybe it’s a routine age...
2024-11-0401 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance238. What are three things we wish management would explain to us in greater detail?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #36: What are three things we wish management would explain to us in greater detail? Without looking, what do you know about the appendix? As in, the little tube jutting out of most humans’ large intestines. I’m willing to bet that if I sampled 100 people listening to this episode, the only appendix-related knowledge that we all have in common is that sometimes something can g...
2024-10-3101 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance237. What are three things we wish management would explain to us in simpler language?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #35: What are three things we wish management would explain to us in simpler language? Nothing could be more appropriate than the actual 100% true fact that I wrote the script for this episode while listening to a compilation of Curtis Mayfield’s greatest hits. The greatest hits aren’t as satisfying as, say, just listening through the album Curtis top to bottom, but still. As fo...
2024-10-2801 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance236. Are we sure we use our experts well?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #34: Are we sure we use our experts well? It goes without saying that you can’t just stick a bunch of smart people in a room together and expect them to get along, let alone to make patient and well-informed decisions together. Things get even worse when those people aren’t just smart, but also have serious depth of expertise in areas that are d...
2024-10-2401 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance235. What's at the top of our expertise wish list?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #33: What’s at the top of our expertise wish list? It’s been a couple of months since episode 207 where I urged you to consider what, specifically, makes a director great. I have asked *many* directors and executives that question and they have never, ever, answered by listing areas of expertise. And I think that makes sense, right? There’s no type or depth o...
2024-10-2101 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance234. How might we empower our loudest directors to be better listeners?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #32: How might we empower the loudest directors to be better listeners? Having an ultra-confident expert on a board is a blessing and a curse. I suspect I don’t really have to explain what I mean – it’s pretty obvious. I mean, confident expertise, when the expertise is relevant to the work of the board, is a shortcut to managing information asymmetry and ensurin...
2024-10-1701 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance233. How might we empower our quietest directors to make an impact?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #31: how might we empower our quietest directors to make an impact? There’s a surprisingly common and patently absurd notion in the world of boards and corporate governance. It goes something like this: when we recruit a new director, we don’t really expect them to contribute much in the first year – mostly we want them to listen and learn. Most of you OMG lis...
2024-10-1401 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance232. How many of us wish our work were more spontaneous?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #30: How many of us wish our work were more spontaneous? I admitted in the last episode – to nobody’s surprise, I imagine – that I generally prefer the unpredictable over the predictable. That doesn’t – and shouldn’t – mean that anyone else should feel the same way. But it does mean that in a generally super-structured environment like a board meeting, one of two things is happe...
2024-10-1001 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance231. How many of us wish our work were more structured?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #29: how many of us wish our work were more structured? Ever notice how lots of people get uncomfortable the moment things get unpredictable? It’s both normal and understandable. And thankfully, most boards and executives approach their work together in a pretty structured and predictable way. But that can make it even more jarring when something unexpected happens, or when someone in the roo...
2024-10-0701 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance230. How many of us would benefit from an occasional change in scenery?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #28: How many of us would benefit from an occasional change in scenery? In episodes 192 and 193 of OMG I talked about the importance of breaks and physical movement. These are not trivial nice to haves – they are critical to making sure that people are cognitively engaged and comfortable – both of which we can all agree are important to board effectiveness. Speaking of trivial, it’s maybe...
2024-10-0301 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance229. How many of us would like our board meetings to be more creative?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #27: How many of us would like our board meetings to feel more “creative”? As any casual OMG listener will already know, I spend a lot of time encouraging corporate directors and senior executives to do things that are outside of the range of normal behaviours in boardrooms. First off, I’d like to argue that the range of normal behaviours in boardrooms is way too...
2024-09-3001 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance228. How might subtraction help to solve our stickiest problems?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #26: How might subtraction help to solve our stickiest issues? Back in episode 189, I talked about the amazing work by Leidy Klotz and others on a cognitive bias called “subtraction neglect”. Basically, subtraction neglect describes that our brains find it really easy to consider solutions to problems that involve adding stuff and really hard to think of solutions that involve taking things away. Unlike most...
2024-09-2601 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance227. Is our pain really necessary?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #25: Is our pain really necessary? In the previous episode, I admitted that work sometimes sucks, and the work of a board is no different. Despite the fact that we can never completely avoid or alleviate the pain of board work, that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. So now that you’ve identified and described your pain points, the next question is whether...
2024-09-2301 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute GovernanceBONUS: Matt's Australia/New Zealand RoadshowCheck out Matt's tour schedule here: https://ffm.live/MattinOz   TRANSCRIPT: Hi everyone. Matt Fullbrook here. This is a quick bonus episode of OMG to spread the word to everyone who follows the show that I’m going to be in Australia and New Zealand next month on a bit of a roadshow. Over the course of the month, I have stops in Brisbane, Auckland, Melbourne and Sydney (in that order) with events tailored for everyone from students to board chairs to CEOs to generally curious nerds. There are breakfast events, cocktail events and...
2024-09-2001 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance226. What are the most painful elements of our meetings?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #24: What are the most painful elements of our meetings? The work of a board is, well, work. And for almost all of us, work sometimes sucks. The fact that work sometimes sucks is not an indication that something is wrong. It’s just often a fact of life. As long as it also doesn’t suck – preferably most of the time. So, with that ou...
2024-09-1901 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance225. What might *I* do to make things a bit better?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #23: What might I do to make things a bit better? Conventional definitions of corporate governance frame it as something that exists: a system of processes and structures that promote transparency and accountability or some other such nonsense. Nonsense because it leaves us with the impression that corporate governance isn’t something that actual people actually do. There’s a similar problem with thinking of co...
2024-09-1601 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance224. Is benchmarking a sensible way to set CEO pay?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #22: Is benchmarking a sensible way to set CEO pay? If you haven’t listened to the previous episode about knowing whether your CEO is doing an awesome job or not, you might want to take a sec and do that. A very large proportion of organizations I meet, and probably 99% of listed companies in the Western world all set their CEO’s compensation amoun...
2024-09-1201 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance223. How do we really know if our CEO is doing an awesome job?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #21: How do we really know if our CEO is doing an awesome job? Did you know that there’s no evidence that the market for CEOs is efficient? An efficient market is one where supply and demand are basically equal. When a job market is efficient it means that both sides of a potential transaction have lots of information about each other and the...
2024-09-0901 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance222. What *really* motivates our CEO?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #20:  What *really* motivates our CEO? If you have the patience to follow me on LinkedIn, you may have noticed me complaining loudly about executive compensation a couple of times in the past year. I think it’s totally broken, and nobody seems to have any interest in fixing it. The fact is, we have no idea what a CEO is actually worth to a fi...
2024-09-0501 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance221. How, specifically, do our board evaluations make us better?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #19: How, specifically, do our board evaluations make us better? I’ve had the amazing privilege of working with many, many boards on board evaluations over the years. I would guess that the first one I ever worked on was 20-ish years ago and the most recent one was within the past couple of months. Most board evaluations take tonnes of time and money to...
2024-09-0201 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance220. How do we hope to spend our time?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT Question #18: How do we hope to spend our time? Today and in general. Time scarcity is probably the thing that makes board work most complicated. I guess that’s kind of like saying that time scarcity is what makes life most complicated. Still, my point stands. One of the most remarkable things about my work with boards over the years is how similarly different boa...
2024-08-2901 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance219. What information do we hope to receive?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT Question #17: What information do we hope to receive? Building on the last episode about what conversations we hope to have, it’s hard to have a useful conversation without useful information. Now think about all the things that go into making information useful. When it comes to boards, we put a lot of energy into making sure the information we get is comprehensive, relevant and...
2024-08-2601 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance218. What conversations do we hope to have at the next board meeting?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT Question #16: What conversations do we hope to have at the next board meeting? We tend to have really careful and smart plans for board meetings. Even organizations that lean more to the informal or experimental still usually have predictable and well-structured board meeting agendas and objectives. How well we adhere to the plans is another story. It’s hard to predict how long each pre...
2024-08-2201 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance217. What do we actually know about AI?This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT Question #15: What do we actually know about AI? Let me be clear: this question is not the same as “have we all used ChatGPT?” It’s also not “Do we know how to provide useful prompts to chatGPT?” Or anything directly about ChatGPT or its competitors at all. At least not necessarily. Instead, the substance of this question is “what do we know about how AI works...
2024-08-1902 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance216. When was the last time we asked management how we might do a better job? (Question #14)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #14: When was the last time we asked management how we might do a better job? There are some really useful and normal things that boards do to make sure they’re doing a good job. For instance, most chairs build constructive relationships with CEOs and keep a regular dialogue going about how things are going. Most boards also do some form of board eva...
2024-08-1501 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance215. To what extent does the stuff we do get in management's way? (Question #13)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #13: To what extent does the stuff we do get in management’s way? Most of us have had a boss at some point in our lives. More than that, most of us have had the pleasure of working for a great boss, and also the pain of working for an awful boss. When I think of awful bosses, I think of people who get...
2024-08-1201 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance214. To what extent does the stuff we do help management? (Question #12)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #12: To what extent does the stuff we do help management? One of the unspoken themes of this season of OMG is that there are lots of things about boards that we tend to take for granted. Well, I’m here to say out loud that it’s not granted that boards do stuff that’s useful to management. It’s a fair assumption that boar...
2024-08-0801 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance213. Why is our boardroom laid out the way it is? (Question #11)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #11: Why is our boardroom laid out the way it is? This question was basically at the beginning of the origin story of my current definition of good governance – the one about intentionally cultivating effective conditions. At the time, I had been in somewhere between 200 and 300 boardrooms and it struck me one day that every single one of them was functionally identical. And because of...
2024-08-0501 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance212. What existential threats might the business face? (Question #10)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #10: What existential threats might the business face? Considering how obsessed I am with corporate governance, it’s a bit strange how little I focus on risk, huh? I’m about as far as possible from being a technical expert in risk – like an actuary or whatever – but still, I’m not going to try to deny the relationship between risk and governance. I mean, we ob...
2024-08-0101 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance211. To what extent does every director really understand the business? (Question #9)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #9: To what extent does every director really understand the business? I’ve been pretty outspoken over the years about my thoughts on board composition. In general, I think boards tend not to be sufficiently open-minded about who “belongs” on boards – I hope you could hear the air quotes there. There’s basically no evidence or consensus that suggests *any* specific type of experience or expertis...
2024-07-2902 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance210. What do we even mean when we talk about "duty?" (Question #8)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #8: What do we even mean when we talk about “duty?” As in how the word “duty” applies to the work of the board and directors. In the previous episode, I suggested in passing that you might want to ask this question, and now I’m making it a bit more explicit. I can say with reasonable confidence – from my experience, at least – that directors and e...
2024-07-2501 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance209. To what extent do we agree on to whom we owe a duty? (Question #7)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #7: To what extent do we agree on to whom we owe a duty? I’ve been blabbing on about this in some form or another for more than 10 years. It’s been the subject – directly and indirectly – of a bunch of OMG episodes going back to episode 4. Still, I’ve never been disappointed by a boardroom discussion about who stands to be affected by our deci...
2024-07-2201 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance208. Have we empowered our directors to do a great job? (Question #6)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #6: Have we empowered our directors to do a great job? It’s one thing to define what doing a great job means, like we did in the last episode. It’s a whole nother thing to figure out what it takes to empower every individual in the room to feel like they can do a good job without too many obstacles. Obstacles come in co...
2024-07-1801 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance207. What, specifically, makes a director great? (Question #5)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #5: What, specifically, makes a director great? Last episode we asked what board effectiveness looks like under normal circumstances. It kinda goes without saying that an important and related question is what makes a director great. As in, what are some specific differences between a great director and a not-so-great director? We talk a lot about the skills and maybe even competencies that we w...
2024-07-1501 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance206. What does board effectiveness look like on a normal day? (Question #4)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #4: What does board effectiveness look like on a normal day? We – and by “we” I mean people who talk about corporate governance – have a tendency to talk about the impact of boards through examples of massive failure. Whether it’s Enron or Boeing or Wells Fargo or Theranos or the Challenger space shuttle explosion, we feel compelled to highlight all the ways things might go re...
2024-07-1102 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance205. What is our agreed-upon definition of good governance? (Question #3)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer. OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #3: What is our agreed-upon definition of good governance? Don’t worry, this episode isn’t just me saying “blah blah intentionally cultivating effective conditions blah.” As much as I like my definition of good governance and find it both useful and empowering, I’m under no illusions that *you* couldn’t come up with something better. Nonetheless, I am highly confident that most directors, ex...
2024-07-0801 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance204. What is our agreed-upon definition of corporate governance? (Question #2)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer.  OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #2: What is our agreed-upon definition of corporate governance? If you’re at all familiar with my Ground-Up Governance platform, then you know I’m kinda obsessed with definitions. I’ve said before that I think the most important and insidious jargon in the world of corporate governance is the term “corporate governance.” How many times have you heard corporate leaders complain about boards crossing the...
2024-07-0802 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance203. Why do we do things the way we do? (Question #1)This season, every episode of OMG focuses on a question that directors really need to answer.  OMG is written, produced, narrated and scored by Matt Fullbrook.   TRANSCRIPT: Question #1: Why do we do things the way we do? No matter how confidently and aggressively your shareholders, regulators, governance consultants and board educators might say otherwise, there is no decisive evidence and no consensus that any specific approach to doing board stuff is any better than any other approach. If you take a step back and really think about all of the things yo...
2024-07-0801 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute GovernanceTRAILER: OMG Season 5 launches July 8thNew episodes of One Minute Governance every Monday and Thursday starting July 8th. This season's theme is "Questions boards and directors really need to answer." As usual, this podcast is written, produced and scored by Matt Fullbrook. To connect with Matt, head to www.mattfullbrook.com    TRANSCRIPT: Hi everyone, I’m Matt Fullbrook. Season 5 of One Minute Governance kicks off Monday, July 8th with episodes twice a week for the next six months or so. Ever notice that we’re always telling directors to ask more questions? About seemingly everything! Wanna do an...
2024-06-2401 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute GovernanceBONUS: What corporate governance resources are *really* missing (plus, an analysis of the top 500 albums of all time)Ever feel like most corporate governance resources are...just not that awesome? Ever wonder why the heck they aren't better? Matt Fullbrook has, too. In another long-ish scripted episode, Matt explains that he thinks he's figured out what's going on here...and also talks at length about Rolling Stone's top 500 albums of all time. It all (mostly) makes sense. Promise! Full transcript here: http://groundupgovernance.substack.com/p/another-bonus-podcast-what-corporate
2023-11-3020 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceBONUS PODCAST: Good governance is basically about feelings (long story alert!)TRANSCRIPT:Welcome back to…One Minute Governance? Sound-Up Governance? Kinda depends where you’re listening. I’m posting this everywhere. My name is Matt Fullbrook and this is the first medium- to long-form scripted podcast episode I’ve ever done. It’ll be a bit of a journey. There was just a story that I wanted to tell, and I figured that I’d use these platforms to get it out there. So, well, enjoy the ride.Let me start with an admission. I can’t stand watching panel discussions. I’m pretty sure the *reason I can’t s...
2023-11-0926 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.45) - The next generation of governance experts (feat. Reanna Dorscher & Ciara Wakita)Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.TRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. I think it's fair to say that the best part of my profession, if you can call it that, is the privileged access I have to a huge variety of super smart, super interesting and super influential people. Confronted with an endless menu of awesomeness, one has to use some kind of criteria to determine who, exactly, to hang out with, since...
2023-09-2924 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.44) - The early days of ESG for institutional investors (feat. Eric Wetlaufer)Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.TRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome to a special mini episode of Sound-Up Governance. I'm in the middle of a travel whirlwind and trying to make sure I have cool stuff to share with you. So here's a chunk of my conversation with Eric Wetlaufer that didn't fit into the previous episode. If you haven't heard that one yet, please pause this now and go back to listen, it'll get...
2023-09-1516 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.43) - Even "mainstream" directors can be fun...and they can be quitters, too (feat. Eric Wetlaufer)Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.TRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. I'm grateful to you as someone who listens to this admittedly esoteric show for letting me head out on my journey without much complaint. I've chosen to interpret that as enthusiastic approval of what you've been hearing, until I learn otherwise. Still, among the super rare questions I've received has been whether I'll have more of what I'd call mainstream guests, like...
2023-09-0826 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.42) - Executive compensation is probably broken (feat. Matt talking to himself)Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Matt refers to an old paper he wrote in 2013 - check it out hereThe Larcker/Tayan ECGI paper is hereTRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. Today we have another episode that's just me. But wait! Before you shut off your computer or phone or whatever, I want to talk through a super important topic that I honestly believe is completely...
2023-08-2520 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.41) - Why inclusion is *the* leadership superpower (feat. Rose Genele)TRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My guest today is the next and last in a little miniseries featuring people in the startup and tech environments. Also, she's up to some amazingly cool stuff. Rose Genele is the CEO of The Opening Door, a revenue operations consultancy. But that's not how we met. A mutual friend introduced us because Rose was starting something called the New Face of Inclusion Summit, an awesome event for leaders in the tech space which Rose will describe to us in a sec. Not insignificantly Rose is also...
2023-08-2124 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.36) - Getting oriented around the state of ESG and AI and stuff (feat. Matt talking to himself)Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a paid subscriber.TRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook. And this is the first episode I've ever done where there's no guest. Just me. I've had a busy month of governance stuff, and I'm learning a lot and my perspectives on trendy topics like ESG and AI are evolving fast. And I just kind of feel like expressing myself. So here you have it, a bit...
2023-06-3023 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.35) - Going from status quo to good governance (feat. Andrew Escobar)Wanna see a fish turn into good governance (don’t worry, this will make sense once you’ve listened to the episode)Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, please consider becoming a paid subscriber.TRANSCRIPTMatt VoiceoverWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This week we have part two of my latest conversation with Andrew Escobar. Andrew, you may remember, prefers no title at the moment as he's in a bit of an uncertain place in his governance career now that he's abou...
2023-06-1628 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.33) - Abandoning the search for a causal relationship between governance and performance (feat. Jenn Fong)Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.TRANSCRIPTJenn Fong Okay, so did you hear that thing where it's like, if you're in a room with higher ceilings, groups tend to think more ambitiously or like they have bigger ideas than if they were in like a very claustrophobic space?Matt No, I didn't hear that. And so that's, as you might imagine, I'm so interested in Okay, was there any more to th...
2023-06-0229 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.32) - Governance in arts organizations can be weird...and fun! (feat. Karim Morgan)Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.TRANSCRIPTMatt VOWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. Continuing the recent theme where my guests have been young people with remarkable paths through and perspectives on corporate governance. This week we have Karim Morgan. Today, Karim calls himself a fixer and a challenge seeker, which having known him for years and years, I can verify it's a perfect description. Although I think it's also fair to say that the challenges f...
2023-05-1927 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.31) - Is empathy a non-negotiable board skill? (Nate Schmold interviewing Matt Fullbrook)If you want to watch a VIDEO version of this episode, click here.TRANSCRIPTMatt VOWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. It's episode 31, which is part two of a two part conversation where Nate Schmold, my Ground-Up Governance partner, interviews me about the corporate governance stuff that he's interested in. And it's really cool to understand what's int… Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2023-05-1229 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep.21) - The thrill, joy, trauma, and complexity of entrepreneurship with friends (feat. Sander Trestain)TRANSCRIPTMatt VOWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This is Matt Fullbrook. And honestly, I continue to be kind of stunned by the brilliance of the people who are just, you know, around...everywhere, like one of my oldest friends in the world Sander Trestain. The headline here is that once upon a time Sander moved to the United Arab Emirates with two … Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2023-02-1838 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep18) - An Australian and a Canadian walk into a bar... (feat. Paul Smith)TRANSCRIPTMatt VOWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. I'm Matt Fullbrook. And as much as we all like to imagine that we're one of a kind, it turns out there's someone who's basically 99% the same as me when it comes to corporate governance stuff. His name is Paul Smith, and he calls himself a "boardroom futurist." Not coincidentally, he's also the found… Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2023-01-2730 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep17) - Kev Cowan and Matt Fullbrook are the biggest governance nerds (also some jamming)Link to OSC’s definition of SROLink to cover of Led Zeppelin’s Ramble On by KC Roberts & the Live RevolutionTRANSCRIPTMatt (VO)Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. Today's episode is part two of my hang with my great friend and the new chair of the Ontario Securities Commission, Kevan Cowan. If you haven't listened to part one, what you missed was an aw… Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2023-01-1336 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep16) - Matt reacting to his own governance resourcesTRANSCRIPT:Matt (VO)Welcome back to a regular old episode of Sound-Up Governance...Not! You guessed it, this is the second episode of... ArguMatt(?) where, as promised, I'm trolling myself. There's a lot of juicy stuff to choose from considering how much corporate governance content I put out there before even having a confident understanding of what go… Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2023-01-0611 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep13) - Reacting to real-world governance resourcesMatt Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This episode is like every other episode of Sound-Up Governance... Psych! Hi, this is Matt Fullbrook. Since one of the objectives of Ground-Up Governance is to provide me with a platform to express myself, I've decided to try out a new thing. Hot takes and harsh criticism are entertaining. And it turns out I hav… Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2022-12-1611 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep12) - Does this AI understand corporate governance better than me? (feat. chatGPT)TRANSCRIPTMattWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This episode messed up the sequencing of my production schedule, the narrative flow of the Ground-Up Governance platform, the launch of a new hilarious series where I react to (or troll) governance resources, and also my perception of…well, kinda everything. My guest today is chatGPT, a chatbot made available by openAI, and processed through a text-to-speech engine that emulates Snoop Dogg’s voice. I started a conversation with chatGPT and found it so refreshing and enlightening that I couldn’t help but make it into an episode of Sou...
2022-12-0918 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceDumpling Gang (Ep1) - What ingredient are you in the organizational sandwich?Who are the dumplings?Dana Gray, Mary Lee, Navaz Mistry, Nico Sabourin, and Matt FullbrookTRANSCRIPT:Matt I have this amazing group of friends. We call ourselves the Dumpling Gang or Dumpling Days or some other variation on the dumpling theme. There are five of us, including me, Dana Gray, Mary Lee, Navaz Mistry, and Nico Sabourin. Although sometimes we… Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2022-10-2122 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (Ep6) - Have I got corporate governance all wrong? feat. Wanda LopuchIllustration of Wanda Lopuch TRANSCRIPTMatt Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook. And this episode features Wanda Lopuch. Wanda's journey brought her from Poland to Milwaukee where she finished her PhD. She then spent a few years in a pharmaceutical market research company in Phoenix, at which point she recognized an opportunit… Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2022-10-1415 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (ep5) - The journey of a young corporate director, featuring Andrew EscobarImage of Andrew EscobarTRANSCRIPTMatt Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This is Matt Fullbrook. In this episode, I talked to a real life unicorn with a horn and wings and everything. Okay...no, my conversation this time is with Andrew Escobar. What makes him so special? Andrew is in his mid 30s, and has more than a decade of board experience in a com… Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe
2022-10-0725 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance127. Sound-Up Governance Episode 3 featuring Lisa OldridgeThis is the last crossover episode between OMG and Sound-Up Governance, a new podcast on the Ground-Up Governance platform (www.groundupgovernance.com). In this one, Matt Fullbrook speaks with Lisa Oldridge, a Performance Strategist in Calgary with expertise in governance, ESG, and investment in startups. Lisa helps us to explore the differences between what makes a good company good and what makes a good business good, and shows us that the people are what matter most.   Matt Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. Today's episode is the companion to the third edition of the G...
2022-09-2211 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance126. Sound-Up Governance Episode 2 with Lieutenant Colonel Jamahl EvansToday's episode is the second of three crossover episodes with Sound-Up Governance, a new podcast that's part of the Ground-Up Governance platform (www.groundupgovernance.com). In this one, Matt Fullbrook speaks with Lieutenant Colonel Jamahl Evans of the United States Marine Corps about what duty and accountability mean in his world.    TRANSCRIPT: Matt  Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. One of the most common conversations I have with boards of directors and senior executives is about to whom they owe a duty. On the surface, it seems like a simple question, but mos...
2022-09-1923 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance125. Sound-Up Governance Episode 1 featuring Tiziana CasciaroToday's episode of OMG is actually a crossover with a new podcast, Sound-Up Governance, which is part of the new Ground-Up Governance platform. Episode 1 features an interview with Tiziana Casciaro, author of Power, for All: How it Really Works, and Why it's Everyone's Business. If you like what you hear, please consider heading over to groundupgovernance.com and subscribing.   SCRIPT The next three episodes of OMG are gonna be REALLY different. Well, actually, they’re not episodes of OMG at all, but episodes of a brand new podcast called Sound-Up Governance, which is par...
2022-09-1515 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (Ep3) - Companies and Businesses with Performance Strategist Lisa Oldridge (interview) MattWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. Today's episode is the companion to the third edition of the Ground-Up Governance newsletter, which provides definitions for business, company and customer. I know I frequently use the words business and company as if they're interchangeable, even though they're often pretty different. That's fine. Of course, if I say business when I mean company, it doesn't hurt anybody or even confuse anyone too much. But still, I thought it'd be fun to talk to someone who could really help me to understand what makes a good business g...
2022-09-1211 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (Ep2) - Accountability and Duty with Lt. Col. Jamahl Evans (interview)TRANSCRIPT:Matt Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. One of the most common conversations I have with boards of directors and senior executives is about to whom they owe a duty. On the surface, it seems like a simple question, but most of the time, everyone in the room has a different idea of what "duty" even means. So the question of where your duty lies takes a lot more work to explore than most people expect. And when you add in the difference between duty and accountability, plus when and to whom you can delegate d...
2022-09-1222 minSound-Up Governance
Sound-Up GovernanceSound-Up Governance (Ep1) - Power and Authority with Professor Tiziana Casciaro (interview)TRANSCRIPT:Matt  00:05Welcome to episode 1 of Sound-Up Governance. My name is Matt Fullbrook, and today I’m chatting with my friend, Tiziana Casciaro, Professor of Organizational Behaviour at the Rotman School of Management at the University of Toronto. We launched the Ground-Up Governance newsletter with the most fundamental concepts in corporate governance: “authority” and “power.” I mean, what could be more essential to corporate governance than trying to understand who is allowed to do what, and what it takes for one person to influence another person? Luckily for us, Professor Casciaro recently co-authored a book with...
2022-09-1215 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance112. Board effectiveness is not the same as good governanceBoards are an important part of corporate governance in most organizations, but an effective board is not the same as good governance. Background music is Of the Stars by KC Roberts & the Live Revolution   SCRIPT: I said earlier this season that board effectiveness and good governance aren’t the same. When I say “board effectiveness” what does it mean to you? I even struggle with this one, which is troubling given that my company is called “Fullbrook Board Effectiveness.” My URL is even boardeffectiveness.ca. If anyone would have a pithy, inspiring d...
2022-08-0101 minOne Minute Governance
One Minute Governance107. Purpose is not the same as good governanceIncreasing emphasis on corporate purpose is a *really* good thing, but it's not the same as good governance. Background music is Of the Stars by KC Roberts & the Live Revolution   SCRIPT: This is probably the most obvious of all the titles in this sequence. Of course purpose is not the same as good governance. Take any incorporated entity, from a one-man-shop like my company, Fullbrook Board Effectiveness, to let’s say Amazon, it’s really helpful to be able to answer the question “why does this organization exist?” if you want good gove...
2022-07-1401 min