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Two Think MinimumLittle Tech, Big Challenges: Competing in the AI Era with Matt PeraultLittle Tech, Big Challenges: Competing in the AI Era with Matt Perault by Technology Policy Institute2025-02-2141 min
The Lawfare PodcastLawfare Daily: Matt Perault on the Little Tech AgendaMatt Perault, Head of AI Policy at Andreessen Horowitz, joins Kevin Frazier, Contributing Editor at Lawfare and Adjunct Professor at Delaware Law, to define the Little Tech Agenda and explore how adoption of the Agenda may shape AI development across the country. The duo also discuss the current AI policy landscape.We value your feedback! Help us improve by sharing your thoughts at lawfaremedia.org/survey. Your input ensures that we deliver what matters most to you. Thank you for your support—and, as always, for listening!To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Suppo...2025-02-1840 min
The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon EditionLawfare Daily: Matt Perault on the Little Tech AgendaMatt Perault, Head of AI Policy at Andreessen Horowitz, joins Kevin Frazier, Contributing Editor at Lawfare and Adjunct Professor at Delaware Law, to define the Little Tech Agenda and explore how adoption of the Agenda may shape AI development across the country. The duo also discuss the current AI policy landscape.We value your feedback! Help us improve by sharing your thoughts at lawfaremedia.org/survey. Your input ensures that we deliver what matters most to you. Thank you for your support—and, as always, for listening! Get for Ad Free Podcasts Hosted on Aca...2025-02-1840 minTwo Think MinimumAI Policy and the Future of Startups with Matt PeraultAI Policy and the Future of Startups with Matt Perault by Technology Policy Institute2025-02-1341 minThe Lawfare PodcastLawfare Daily: AI Policy Under Technological Uncertainty, with Alex “amac” MacgillivrayAlan Rozenshtein, Associate Professor at the University of Minnesota Law School and Senior Editor at Lawfare, and Matt Perault, the Director of the Center on Technology Policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, sat down with Alexander Macgillivray, known to all as "amac," who was the former Principle Deputy Chief Technology Officer of the United States in the Biden Administration and General Counsel at Twitter.amac recently wrote a piece for Lawfare about making AI policy in a world of technological uncertainty, and Matt and Alan talked to him about how to do just th...2024-07-2339 min
The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon EditionLawfare Daily: AI Policy Under Technological Uncertainty, with Alex “amac” MacgillivrayAlan Rozenshtein, Associate Professor at the University of Minnesota Law School and Senior Editor at Lawfare, and Matt Perault, the Director of the Center on Technology Policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, sat down with Alexander Macgillivray, known to all as "amac," who was the former Principle Deputy Chief Technology Officer of the United States in the Biden Administration and General Counsel at Twitter.amac recently wrote a piece for Lawfare about making AI policy in a world of technological uncertainty, and Matt and Alan talked to him about how to do just th...2024-07-2339 min
The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon EditionMatt Perault, Ramya Krishnan, and Alan Rozenshtein Talk About the TikTok Divestment and Ban BillToday, we’re bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, our series on the information ecosystem.Last week the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed a bill that would require ByteDance, the Chinese company that owns the popular social media app TikTok, to divest its ownership in the platform or face TikTok being banned in the United States. Although prospects for the bill in the Senate remain uncertain, President Biden has said he will sign the bill if it comes to his desk, and this is the most serious attempt yet to ban the controversial social media app...2024-03-2250 min
The Lawfare PodcastMatt Perault, Ramya Krishnan, and Alan Rozenshtein Talk About the TikTok Divestment and Ban BillToday, we’re bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, our series on the information ecosystem.Last week the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed a bill that would require ByteDance, the Chinese company that owns the popular social media app TikTok, to divest its ownership in the platform or face TikTok being banned in the United States. Although prospects for the bill in the Senate remain uncertain, President Biden has said he will sign the bill if it comes to his desk, and this is the most serious attempt yet to ban the controversial social media app...2024-03-2250 min
Arbiters of TruthMatt Perault, Ramya Krishnan, and Alan Rozenshtein Talk About the TikTok Divestment and Ban BillLast week the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed a bill that would require ByteDance, the Chinese company that owns the popular social media app TikTok, to divest its ownership in the platform or face TikTok being banned in the United States. Although prospects for the bill in the Senate remain uncertain, President Biden has said he will sign the bill if it comes to his desk, and this is the most serious attempt yet to ban the controversial social media app.Today's podcast is the latest in a series of conversations we've had about TikTok. Matt Perault, the Di...2024-03-2250 minArbiters of TruthJawboning at the Supreme CourtToday, we’re bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, our series on the information ecosystem.On March 18, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Murthy v. Missouri, concerning the potential First Amendment implications of government outreach to social media platforms—what’s sometimes known as jawboning. The case arrived at the Supreme Court with a somewhat shaky evidentiary record, but the legal questions raised by government requests or demands to remove online content are real. To make sense of it all, Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic and Matt Perault, the Director of the Center...2024-03-2151 min
The Lawfare PodcastJawboning at the Supreme CourtToday, we’re bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, our series on the information ecosystem.On March 18, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Murthy v. Missouri, concerning the potential First Amendment implications of government outreach to social media platforms—what’s sometimes known as jawboning. The case arrived at the Supreme Court with a somewhat shaky evidentiary record, but the legal questions raised by government requests or demands to remove online content are real. To make sense of it all, Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic and Matt Perault, the Director of the Center...2024-03-2151 min
The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon EditionJawboning at the Supreme CourtToday, we’re bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, our series on the information ecosystem.On March 18, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Murthy v. Missouri, concerning the potential First Amendment implications of government outreach to social media platforms—what’s sometimes known as jawboning. The case arrived at the Supreme Court with a somewhat shaky evidentiary record, but the legal questions raised by government requests or demands to remove online content are real. To make sense of it all, Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic and Matt Perault, the Director of the Center...2024-03-2151 min
The Lawfare PodcastHow Are the TikTok Bans Holding Up in Court?In May 2023, Montana passed a new law that would ban the use of TikTok within the state starting on January 1, 2024. But as of today, TikTok is still legal in the state of Montana—thanks to a preliminary injunction issued by a federal district judge, who found that the Montana law likely violated the First Amendment. In Texas, meanwhile, another federal judge recently upheld a more limited ban against the use of TikTok on state-owned devices. What should we make of these rulings, and how should we understand the legal status of efforts to ban TikTok?We’ve discus...2024-01-0349 minArbiters of TruthHow Are the TikTok Bans Holding Up in Court?In May 2023, Montana passed a new law that would ban the use of TikTok within the state starting on January 1, 2024. But as of today, TikTok is still legal in the state of Montana—thanks to a preliminary injunction issued by a federal district judge, who found that the Montana law likely violated the First Amendment. In Texas, meanwhile, another federal judge recently upheld a more limited ban against the use of TikTok on state-owned devices. What should we make of these rulings, and how should we understand the legal status of efforts to ban TikTok?We’ve discus...2024-01-0349 min
The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon EditionHow Are the TikTok Bans Holding Up in Court?In May 2023, Montana passed a new law that would ban the use of TikTok within the state starting on January 1, 2024. But as of today, TikTok is still legal in the state of Montana—thanks to a preliminary injunction issued by a federal district judge, who found that the Montana law likely violated the First Amendment. In Texas, meanwhile, another federal judge recently upheld a more limited ban against the use of TikTok on state-owned devices. What should we make of these rulings, and how should we understand the legal status of efforts to ban TikTok?We’ve discus...2024-01-0349 min
POLITICO TechForecast 2024: States will drive the tech agendaStates passed dozens of new tech laws last year on issues like AI, data privacy and kids’ online safety. Congress… talked about a lot of laws. The University of North Carolina’s Matt Perault expects that dynamic to continue in 2024. On POLITICO Tech, Perault shares predictions for state-level tech policy in the year to come with host Steven Overly.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices2024-01-0220 minArbiters of TruthWill Generative AI Reshape Elections?Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’ve probably heard a great deal over the last year about generative AI and how it’s going to reshape various aspects of our society. That includes elections. With one year until the 2024 U.S. presidential election, we thought it would be a good time to step back and take a look at how generative AI might and might not make a difference when it comes to the political landscape. Luckily, Matt Perault and Scott Babwah Brennen of the UNC Center on Technology Policy have a new report out on just tha...2023-11-2949 min
The Lawfare PodcastWill Generative AI Reshape Elections?Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’ve probably heard a great deal over the last year about generative AI and how it’s going to reshape various aspects of our society. That includes elections. With one year until the 2024 U.S. presidential election, we thought it would be a good time to step back and take a look at how generative AI might and might not make a difference when it comes to the political landscape. Luckily, Matt Perault and Scott Babwah Brennen of the UNC Center on Technology Policy have a new report out on just tha...2023-11-2949 min
The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon EditionWill Generative AI Reshape Elections?Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’ve probably heard a great deal over the last year about generative AI and how it’s going to reshape various aspects of our society. That includes elections. With one year until the 2024 U.S. presidential election, we thought it would be a good time to step back and take a look at how generative AI might and might not make a difference when it comes to the political landscape. Luckily, Matt Perault and Scott Babwah Brennen of the UNC Center on Technology Policy have a new report out on just tha...2023-11-2949 min
Explain to ShaneCandidates, Bots, and Ballots: How AI is Rewriting Political Advertising (with Scott Brennen and Matt Perault)Generative AI poses new challenges for political campaigning and our democracy as we head towards the 2024 presidential election. While this technology could streamline political messaging, there is greater fear that it could enable widespread manipulation and distortion of the democratic process. Heading into a contentious election, how can we assess and mitigate harms from AI-generated disinformation? How will the use of generative AI be different than prior “cheap fake” attempts? How should policymakers prepare for and respond to the use of AI in political advertising?On this episode, Shane is joined by Scott Brennen and Matt Perault, co-a...2023-11-2033 min
Impossible Tradeoffs with Katie HarbathFrom the inside: When platforms engage with governmentI have to apologize to you all. I forgot to put a poll in last week’s podcast notes about our fun tradeoff, which was how you would want to unwind.I won’t make that same mistake this week! The hard question for you today is:This week, we are joined by a bunch of exciting guests.First up is Diane Chang.Diane is a journalist-turned-product manager and was most recently Meta's election integrity product manager. She is an Entrepreneur-in-Residence at the Brown Institute for Media Innovation at Columbia Journalism Scho...2023-10-261h 04
SpeechMattersThe Challenge of AI: "Abstinence is Not the Best Approach"The latest generative AI technologies have dominated the headlines these last few months raising questions about how ChatGPT will change teaching, research and learning at colleges and universities, as well as in society at large. In this episode, we explore AI’s impacts – both big and small – with nationally recognized technology policy expert and Director of UNC at Chapel Hill’s Center on Technology Policy Matt Perault. Episode Resources:UNC Center on Technology Policy: https://techpolicy.unc.edu/Matt Perault Article on Section 230 and Chat GPT: https://www.lawfareblog.com/section-230-wont-protect-chatgpt“Our Robophobia” by Andrew Keane Woods...2023-06-2151 min
Wonks and War RoomsAntitrust and Big Tech with Matt PeraultMatt Perault is the director of the Center on Technology Policy at UNC Chapel Hill, and previously worked at Facebook, as the head of the global policy development team. This episode he and Elizabeth get into the weeds on antitrust competition laws, monopolies and big tech. They talk about how monopolies can be both good and bad, the goals of antitrust laws, and the complication of these laws applying across different regions of the world. They also discuss some of the antitrust lawsuits in big tech right now, and the various stakeholders involved.Additional resources: 2023-05-0332 minArbiters of TruthCox and Wyden on Section 230 and Generative AIGenerative AI products have been tearing up the headlines recently. Among the many issues these products raise is whether or not their outputs are protected by Section 230, the foundational statute that shields websites from liability for third-party content.On this episode of Arbiters of Truth, Lawfare’s occasional series on the information ecosystem, Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic and Matt Perault, Director of the Center on Technology and Policy at UNC-Chapel Hill, talked through this question with Senator Ron Wyden and Chris Cox, formerly a U.S. congressman and SEC chairman. Cox and Wyden drafted Section 230 together in...2023-05-0229 min
The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon EditionCox and Wyden on Section 230 and Generative AIGenerative AI products have been tearing up the headlines recently. Among the many issues these products raise is whether or not their outputs are protected by Section 230, the foundational statute that shields websites from liability for third-party content.On this episode of Arbiters of Truth, Lawfare’s occasional series on the information ecosystem, Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic and Matt Perault, Director of the Center on Technology and Policy at UNC-Chapel Hill, talked through this question with Senator Ron Wyden and Chris Cox, formerly a U.S. congressman and SEC chairman. Cox and Wyden drafted Section 230 together in...2023-05-0229 min
Barron's LiveTech Trader - The Outlook for Technology StocksBarron's associate editor for technology Eric Savitz speaks with Matt Perault, director of the Center on Technology Policy at UNC-Chapel Hill on the outlook for technology stocks.
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Tech Policy GrindDigital Safety and That Section 230 Thing – Conversations from State of the Net (Part 2) [S4E02]
We’re back with Part 2 of our State of the Net series, and this week we’re chatting kids privacy and what’s going on with Section 230!
In this episode, Reema and Joe talk digital privacy and safety issues for children with Natalie Campbell (Internet Society). Then, Reema chats with Matt Perault (University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill) and Yaël Eisenstat (Anti-Defamation League) on Section 230 and the current landscape of platform liability.
In case you missed last week, for the past (nearly) two decades, the State of the Net Conference has served as the...2023-03-2330 minArbiters of TruthDoes Section 230 Protect ChatGPT?During recent oral arguments in Gonzalez v. Google, a Supreme Court case concerning the scope of liability protections for internet platforms, Justice Neil Gorsuch asked a thought-provoking question. Does Section 230, the statute that shields websites from liability for third-party content, apply to a generative AI model like ChatGPT? Luckily, Matt Perault of the Center on Technology Policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill had already been thinking about this question and published a Lawfare article arguing that 230’s protections wouldn’t extend to content generated by AI. Lawfare Senior Editors Quinta Jurecic and Alan Rozenshtein sa...2023-03-0950 min
The Lawfare PodcastDoes Section 230 Protect ChatGPT?During recent oral arguments in Gonzalez v. Google, a Supreme Court case concerning the scope of liability protections for internet platforms, Justice Neil Gorsuch asked a thought-provoking question. Does Section 230, the statute that shields websites from liability for third-party content, apply to a generative AI model like ChatGPT? Luckily, Matt Perault of the Center on Technology Policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill had already been thinking about this question and published a Lawfare article arguing that 230’s protections wouldn’t extend to content generated by AI. Lawfare Senior Editors Quinta Jurecic and Alan Rozenshtein sa...2023-03-0950 min
The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon EditionDoes Section 230 Protect ChatGPT?During recent oral arguments in Gonzalez v. Google, a Supreme Court case concerning the scope of liability protections for internet platforms, Justice Neil Gorsuch asked a thought-provoking question. Does Section 230, the statute that shields websites from liability for third-party content, apply to a generative AI model like ChatGPT? Luckily, Matt Perault of the Center on Technology Policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill had already been thinking about this question and published a Lawfare article arguing that 230’s protections wouldn’t extend to content generated by AI. Lawfare Senior Editors Quinta Jurecic and Alan Rozenshtein sa...2023-03-0950 minThe Lawfare Podcast: Patreon EditionThe CLOUD Act Five Years LaterNext month will mark the five-year anniversary of the CLOUD Act, a foundational piece of legislation on cross-border data transfers and criminal investigations. Before he was a University of Minnesota law professor and senior editor at Lawfare, Alan Rozenshtein worked in the Department of Justice where he was a member of the team that developed the CLOUD Act. In that capacity, he interacted with representatives from the large tech companies that would be most directly affected by the law. One of these people was Matt Perault, then the head of Global Policy Development at Facebook, and now the director o...2023-02-0338 minArbiters of TruthWhen States Make Tech PolicyTech policy reform occupies a strange place in Washington, D.C. Everyone seems to agree that the government should change how it regulates the technology industry, on issues from content moderation to privacy—and yet, reform never actually seems to happen. But while the federal government continues to stall, state governments are taking action. More and more, state-level officials are proposing and implementing changes in technology policy. Most prominently, Texas and Florida recently passed laws restricting how platforms can moderate content, which will likely be considered by the Supreme Court later this year.On this episode of Ar...2023-01-2345 min
Moderated ContentMC Weekly Update 1/9: New Year, Same Trust and Safety IssuesStanford’s Evelyn Douek and Alex Stamos weigh in on the latest online trust and safety news and developments:An EU regulator is putting behavioral advertising at risk and leveling more than $400 million in fines against Meta for Facebook and Instagram privacy violations. - Sam Schechner/ The Wall Street Journal, Vincent Manancourt/ Politico, Adam Satariano/ The New York Times, Stephanie Bodoni/ Bloomberg NewsMore: Meta plans to appeal the ruling against its legal basis for processing data to provide targeted posts and ads based on user activity. - MetaGoogle is implementing an appeals process for users suspended for sharing ch...2023-01-0935 min
WUNC PoliticsIs a 'Digital Civil War' on the horizon?The landscape of a post-Roe world is still taking shape. There are many questions lingering about access to reproductive healthcare, as well as personal information and online privacy. On this episode of The Politics Podcast Matt Perault, Director of the Center on Technology Policy at UNC Chapel Hill, details some of the policy inconsistencies and forecasts what could happen next.2022-11-3015 min
The Sunday ShowExamining Programmatic Political Advertising in the United StatesAs the U.S. midterm elections approach next week, there is a renewed focus on understanding the spending on and claims made in political advertising in digital channels, particularly on social media. But what is going on across the web, beyond the social media platforms? A recent report from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Center on Technology Policy found that as a result of restrictions on political ads instituted by major platforms ahead of the 2020 elections, political advertisers are increasingly turning to political advertising on other platforms. Programmatic advertising accounts for a substantial and...2022-11-0136 minExplain to ShaneA potential breaking point for tech antitrust (with Matt Perault and Blair Levin)Several bills seeking to restructure American antitrust law are moving forward in both bodies of Congress. The bills specifically target Big Tech firms — namely Amazon, Apple, Facebook, and Google — though they follow arbitrary metrics for “bigness,” and don’t address lawmakers’ main concerns with tech platforms. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice and Federal Trade Commission are also stepping up enforcement against Big Tech. With a Senate markup approaching for one of the bills, we must ask: Is Congress really prepared to pass major antitrust legislation? On this episode, Shane is joined by Matt Perault, a former Facebook public polic...2022-01-1835 min
BettingPros PodcastEarly Look at Week 8 NFL Lines (Ep. 120)Matt Perault joins Dan Harris to take an early look at the Week 8 NFL spreads and totals, in addition to a spirited Tua Tagovailoa debate.2021-10-2538 min
PR TalkTech Policy and Our Society with Matt PeraultThis week’s episode of the PR Talk podcast features Amy’s interview with Matt Perault during a recent Rotary Club of Portland meeting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices2021-10-2043 min
PR TalkTech Policy and Our Society with Matt PeraultThis week’s episode of the PR Talk podcast features Amy’s interview with Matt Perault during a recent Rotary Club of Portland meeting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices2021-10-2043 min
NSI LiveTech 2020/21: Allies, Enemies, and the Homefront Part 3: The National Security Implications of AntitrustOn Tuesday, October 19, 2021, as part of NSI’s Tech Innovation and American National Security project, NSI hosted the third panel of a four-part series examining the national security implications of antitrust challenges at home and abroad. This third event took a look at how U.S. adversaries are addressing antitrust questions related to the tech industry as well as the implications of such efforts for our national security. Our panel features Maureen Ohlhausen, Matt Perault, and Alex Petros, and was moderated by NSI Founder and Executive Director, Jamil N. Jaffer.Adversarial nation-state governments, such...2021-10-2059 min
TBD: Technology By DesignLeaving WellHow do organizations create a healthy culture? Mike Rognlien, a founding member of Facebook’s Learning and Development team, shares the lessons he learned from building and teaching culture at Facebook. After leaving Facebook, Mike wrote a book, This Is Now Your Company, that focuses on how people can take ownership in the workplace. He also started his own consulting agency, Multiple Hats Management, where he provides coaching and learning to organizations, including training on implicit race and gender bias. In this episode, Mike talks about the frustrations of his departure from Facebook, how he runs his business, and the...2021-08-1847 min
TBD: Technology By DesignReassessing Tech PolicyTech policy discussions about privacy, competition, and speech often center on benefitting the consumer - but which policies actually do it? Adam Kovacevich is the Founder and CEO of the Chamber of Progress, a new center-left tech industry policy coalition promoting technology’s progressive future. Adam previously worked at Lime, where he was the head of government relations and public affairs for North America and Asia Pacific. Before that, he was a senior director on Google’s public policy team. In this episode of TBD, Adam and Matt discuss Section 230, competition policy, business models, Democratic values, and the role of in...2021-08-0452 min
TBD: Technology By DesignLifting Up the StartupsDebates in tech policy are often dominated by a focus on a small handful of companies, but the tech sector encompasses a far broader group of companies of all sizes. Kate Tummarello is the Executive Director of Engine, a nonprofit organization that works with a community of thousands of high-tech, growth-oriented startups across the nation to support technology entrepreneurship. Kate is focused on ensuring that the voices of these startups are included in tech policy debates on issues like Section 230, antitrust, and diversity and inclusion. In this episode, Kate and Matt discuss Engine’s role in the tech sector, how...2021-07-2146 min
TBD: Technology By DesignTaking a LeapIt’s daunting to leave behind the perks, resources, and stability of a steady job. But Nancy Scola, a former senior technology reporter at POLITICO, took a leap to pursue more independent and entrepreneurial projects. She currently publishes “Slow Build”, a newsletter exploring the intersection of technology and society, on Substack and teaches digital journalism at Georgetown University. In this episode, Nancy talks about what led her to her decision, how it gave her an opportunity to look at tech issues through a different lens, and how journalists cover the tech sector. Listen in.2021-07-0739 min
TBD: Technology By DesignBig Tech, Antitrust, and Liberty from All MastersBarry Lynn is the director of the Open Markets Institute, which aims to “address threats to our democracy, individual liberties, and our national security from today’s unprecedented levels of corporate concentration and monopoly power.” Barry has worked in this field for many years, but is probably best known for his work on concentration in the tech sector. In this episode of TBD, he and Matt discuss his new book, (Liberty from All Masters: The New American Autocracy vs. the Will of the People) his advice for running advocacy campaigns, and how he views his role as a mentor to the...2021-06-2359 min
TBD: Technology By DesignHow One Chef Innovated During COVIDCheetie Kumar is a musician and a chef, and she owns the Raleigh-based restaurant Garland, the music venue Kings, and the cocktail bar Neptunes. In this episode of TBD, she and Matt sit down to talk about how she innovated as a chef and business owner to keep her businesses alive during COVID. As restaurants faced shutdowns, declining revenue, and health risks to their employees, Cheetie joined with other chefs to create the Independent Restaurant Coalition and advocate with policymakers for relief grants for small restaurants. Congress eventually passed a relief package that included a $28 billion Restaurant Revitalization Fund. Li...2021-06-0949 min
Pushing the Odds6/8 Hour 2 Pushing The OddsMatt Perault discusses DFS, Baseball Betting, UFC, NBA Playoffs, NHL Playoffs and much more
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TBD: Technology By DesignTech Policy from Rural TennesseeWhen people think about tech policy, they typically think about Washington or Silicon Valley. But Victoria McCullough has spent the pandemic working on tech policy from her family’s beef cattle farm in Tennessee. Formerly, she served as the Director of Social Impact and Public Policy at Tumblr, and she recently started a new role at TikTok as the Head of Outreach and Partnerships for Trust and Safety in the Americas. In this episode, she and Matt discuss what it’s like doing tech policy work from rural Tennessee, how her surroundings have kept her “zen” over the past year, and...2021-05-2641 min
TBD: Technology By DesignFederal Privacy Legislation for the 21st CenturySuzan DelBene represents Washington’s 1st Congressional District. First sworn into the House of Representatives in November 2012, Suzan brings a unique voice to Congress with over two decades of experience in the tech industry. In March of this year, Representative DelBene introduced the Information Transparency and Personal Data Control Act, legislation that would create a national data privacy standard. In this episode of TBD, she discusses the story behind this legislation, how her background in tech has influenced her work in Congress, and how the pandemic has affected work for members of Congress. Listen in. 2021-05-1250 min
TBD: Technology By DesignMerger Reform and Venture CapitalJeff Farrah is the general counsel of the National Venture Capital Association. He’s tracking this policy debate closely because he believes it could have a significant impact on the startups and venture capitalists he represents. He came on the podcast to discuss the evolving debate about merger and acquisition policy, how the recent proposals in Congress could affect startups, and what he’s doing to make his case in DC. Listen in. 2021-04-2837 min
TBD: Technology By DesignDirecting the Social DilemmaThe Social Dilemma is a Netflix film about how technology is designed and regulated, and the implications of those design and regulation decisions on our lives and our choices. Jeff Orlowski directed the film, devoting several years to talking with people throughout the tech sector about the design of products and business models. In this episode, we talk about The Social Dilemma, what we can do to address the challenges it raises, and how making the film changed Orlowski's own relationship with technology. Listen in.2021-04-1447 min
TBD: Technology By DesignBehind the Battle Between Apple and FacebookApple and Facebook are at war. When Apple announced plans for its latest operating system updates, Facebook threatened to file an antitrust lawsuit, and Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg traded barbs in the press. The new operating system requires users to opt-in to certain types of data usage. Apple claims it’s protecting privacy; Facebook claims it’s threatening competition and the ad-supported business model. To get a better understanding of the two sides of the issue, Matt discussed it with Steve Satterfield, a director of privacy and public policy at Facebook, and Michelle Richardson, the Director of the Priv...2021-03-3148 min
TBD: Technology By DesignDiscussing Silicon Values: Free Speech and CensorshipWhat kinds of speech—political, controversial, or otherwise—should be protected? What kinds of speech should be censored? The ongoing content moderation debate has raised pressing questions about what kinds of speech can and should be regulated by companies and governments. Jillian York is the director for international freedom of expression at the Electronic Frontier Foundation and an expert on free speech and censorship. In this episode, we talk about global free expression policies, decentralized approaches to local engagement, working from another continent, and her new book, “Silicon Values: The Future of Free Speech Under Surveillance Capitalism.”2021-03-1740 min
TBD: Technology By DesignThe Technology that Runs KrzyzewskivilleIf you’ve ever been a fan of college basketball, then you’ve probably heard of the Duke-UNC rivalry. It’s the stuff of legends. The infamous eight miles that divide these two schools make it impossible to live in the Triangle without picking a side. In non-COVID times, Duke Students camp out for months just to gain entry to this basketball game. Welcome to Krzyzewskiville – the tent village that can be found on Duke’s campus during the coldest months of the North Carolina winter. But how do these students live outside for months on end, and still keep their...2021-03-0344 min
TBD: Technology By DesignFounding ClimateVoiceBill Weihl founded ClimateVoice in 2020, with the goal of “mobilizing the voice of the workforce to urge companies to go ‘all in’ on climate, both in business practices and policy advocacy.” ClimateVoice is urging companies to be more active in the policy debates on climate change, and creating frameworks for students and employees to push companies in that direction. Bill founded ClimateVoice after working on these issues at Google and Facebook, where he started the companies’ sustainability teams. In this episode of TBD, Matt and Bill discuss the mission of ClimateVoice, the tactics Bill’s using to achieve that mission, and w...2021-02-1744 min
TBD: Technology By DesignThe Making of Morning TechIf you work in tech policy, then you’ve probably read the words of Alexandra Levine. Every weekday morning at 6 AM, Politico's Morning Tech newsletter is delivered to subscribers, who read it to learn about the most important news in the field. Alex is the force behind Morning Tech, deciding each day what to cover and how to present it. In this episode of TBD, Matt and Alex discuss the making of Morning Tech, how Alex sets boundaries in a 24-hour job, and the tech policy agenda of the Biden Administration. Listen in.2021-02-0346 min
TBD: Technology By DesignTen Principles for Tech Policy in a Biden AdministrationWe’re in a moment of transition in tech policy. With the start of a new administration and fallout from the Capitol riots, there is increasing pressure to enact sweeping reforms in tech regulation. Scott Wallsten and Thomas Lenard of the Technology Policy Institute recently published a set of 10 principles to guide tech policymaking in a Biden Administration. In this episode, Matt speaks with Scott and Tom about the role tech played in the Capitol riots, overlooked factors in assigning accountability, and the principles that should guide President Biden’s tech policy agenda. Listen in. TPI's Ten Tech Princi...2021-01-2045 min
TBD: Technology By DesignOne Door Closes, Another One OpensAfter Pierce Freelon lost an election for a seat in the North Carolina state senate, he embraced the sudden “silence” in his life, brought on by the lost election, the onset of COVID, and the death of his father. As one door closed, others opened: he released "D.A.D", a music album in memory of his father, and in August, he was appointed to the Durham City Council. In this episode, Matt and Pierce discuss Pierce’s approach to parenting, how he’s tackling tough issues on the Durham City Council with a “listen first, speak second” approach, and the debate...2021-01-0650 min
TBD: Technology By DesignTBD's Year in ReviewThis month, we here at TBD celebrated our 1st birthday! 2020 has been one hell of a year, and even amidst all the chaos, we can't help but reflect on how technology has enabled us to continue living in a post-pandemic world. In this episode, we look back on some of our favorite highlights and interviews from the past year. Listen in, enjoy, and we'll see you next year. 2020-12-2347 min
TBD: Technology By DesignA Section 230 Quid Pro QuoThe Section 230 debate continues, and it seems like new legislation to reform the law is being introduced every week. This week, we spoke with Paul Barrett, who spent 30 years as a journalist before making the switch to policy. He now works at NYU’s Stern School of Business, where he serves as the deputy director for the Center of Business and Human Rights. He recently published a paper outlining possible reforms for Section 230. Listen in to hear Paul’s thoughts on Section 230 and his proposals for how to make it better.2020-12-0947 min
TBD: Technology By DesignUNICEF Tackles the COVID-Caused Digital DivideAs we approach the end of 2020, and the global pandemic continues to rage on, one problem that has continually affected our world is the digital divide. Now more than ever, communities are separated by those that have access to a good internet connection, and those who don't. In this episode of TBD, Matt connects with Juan Pablo Giraldo Ospino and Thomas Dreesen of UNICEF. Throughout the pandemic, they've been working to create UNICEF’s Reimagine campaign, which calls for urgent investment to bridge the digital divide, reach every child with remote learning, and, most critically, prioritize the safe reopening of...2020-11-2545 min
TBD: Technology By DesignTackling Tech Policy in the New AdministrationIt’s been a tumultuous week, to say the least. Eight days ago, the polls closed on the 2020 election, and America watched with anticipation to see who would hold the White House for the next four years. What role did technology and tech platforms play in this election? What difference does it make having an incumbent president who tweets his thoughts on a regular basis, and who may refuse to leave his position of power? What reforms to tech policy can we expect in the next administration? These are all questions that Matt and Adam Conner discuss in today’s ep...2020-11-1145 min
TBD: Technology By DesignA Prescription for a Better InternetWhat needs to happen in order to achieve a "better internet"? Chris Riley has dedicated his life and career to answering questions like this one. He delves deeply into the world of tech policy and works hard at finding solutions to some of the sector's toughest questions. In this episode, Chris and Matt reflect on Chris's time as Mozilla's public policy team lead, and also tackle such questions as to how the government should approach the tech sector. Listen in. Other pieces by Chris Riley: The Need For A Robust Critical Community In Content Policy It’s T...2020-10-2843 min
TBD: Technology By DesignWeek in Review: The House Report on Big TechLast week, the House Judiciary Committee published a 400-page report on the findings of a 16-month long investigation into the state of competition in the digital economy, especially the challenges presented by the dominance of the "big four" tech companies: Amazon, Apple, Google, and Facebook. In this episode, Matt is joined by Avery Gardiner, General Counsel and Senior Fellow for Competition, Data, and Power at the Center for Democracy and Technology. Together they discuss the findings of this report and push back on what they think the HJC got wrong. 2020-10-1448 min
TBD: Technology By DesignThe Case for a Digital Platform AgencyShorenstein Center Senior Fellows Tom Wheeler, Phil Verveer, and Gene Kimmelman join Matt this week to discuss their recent paper proposing a new Digital Platform Agency. In their own words, “today’s exploding digital marketplace has delivered great gains to consumers. Residing amidst the wonderous capabilities of digital technology, however, are decidedly anti-consumer results.” Listen in as they explain their proposal and make the case for why it should be part of the tech policy agenda for the next Administration. Access their paper here. 2020-10-0749 min
TBD: Technology By DesignCombatting Misinformation on Online Platforms: The UK Perspective on the US ElectionPhillip Howard is the Director of the Oxford Internet Institute and Professor of Internet Studies at Balliol College at the University of Oxford, where he researches how digital media affects political life and civic engagement. We talked about his latest book, Lie Machines, which investigates the impact of misinformation from bots, fake profiles, and fake news on our political system. He walks us through multiple potential policy solutions, applying existing and novel regulatory approaches to tackle misinformation on social media. Phillip also describes what it takes to operate a successful tech policy institute at an academic university. H...2020-09-2346 min
TBD: Technology By DesignHow Technology Connects Us: The Future of 5GJohn Godfrey is the senior vice president of public policy at Samsung, where he represents the company in Washington and covers a diverse set of issues, ranging from virtual reality to 5G. We talked in detail about the rollout of 5G networks, and he makes sense of a complex topic that’s always seemed confusing and complicated to me. He’s passionate about the technology and passionate about its benefits. He also responds to concerns that have been raised about potential security risks. John also manages a team that’s been working from home during the pandemic and has...2020-09-0952 min
TBD: Technology By DesignA Turning Point in AI PolicyLink to Darrell's latest book - Turning Point: Policymaking in the Era of Artificial Intelligence Link to Darrell's new podcast from Brookings, TechTank.2020-08-2644 min
TBD: Technology By DesignPatagonia and the Facebook Advertising BoycottRyan Gellert is the General Manager EMEA at Patagonia, overseeing sales, marketing, sustainability, and operations throughout the region. In this conversation, he and Matt explore the reason for Patagonia's "Stop Hate for Profit" boycott, in which they pulled all ads from Facebook and Instagram. Listen in. 2020-08-1250 min
TBD: Technology By DesignTech CEO Hearing • Week in ReviewIt's been a big week in the tech policy world, as the CEOs of Apple, Amazon, Google, and Facebook appeared before Congress to testify on the competitive dynamics in the tech sector. In this episode, Matt and Gene Kimmelman (Senior Advisor at Public Knowledge) discuss who performed well in this trial, some of the key questions that were raised, and what yesterday's hearing means for the future of tech policy. Listen in. 2020-07-3049 min
The Penta Podcast ChannelInsights: Higher Ed Episode Four: Duke's Matt PeraultIn a new episode of HPS Insights' special series on higher education we talk to Matt Perault, Director of the Center on Science & Technology Policy and former Head of Global Policy Development at Facebook. Matt joins Stacy and Elliott to discuss synergies between the technology and education worlds and innovation in higher education in the time of COVID-19. They dive into the contributions that universities are making to public policy and discuss tech regulation on the horizon. 2020-07-1536 min
TBD: Technology By DesignTikTok Unfollows Hong KongIt was tech company chaos in Hong Kong last week. There's a new national security law that makes the surveillance regime look more like the surveillance regime in mainland China. Tech companies scrambled to respond, and the responses varied. In this episode, Matt and Samm discuss this new regime, and Samm gives her insight as a China policy expert at New America. Listen in. 2020-07-1537 min
TBD: Technology By DesignThe Pandemic and the Digital DivideBlair Levin is one of the world’s foremost experts on internet access policy. In this episode, Blair and Matt discuss the lessons we can learn about internet access from experience with the pandemic so far, how broadband policy might look different in a Biden Administration, and the challenges of being a grandparent during the pandemic. Recent articles by Blair: “The Internet After COVID-19: Will We Mind the Gaps?” (https://www.aspeninstitute.org/blog-posts/the-internet-after-covid-19-will-we-mind-the-gaps/) “COVID-19 proves we need to continue upgrading America’s broadband infrastructure.” (https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2020/03/30/covid-19-proves-we-need-to-continue-upgrading-americas-broadband-infrastructure/) National Broadband Plan: https://www...2020-07-0248 min
TBD: Technology By DesignPresident Trump, Censorship, and Section 230Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act has been called the “Magna Carta of the internet,” the foundation of online free expression, and the 26 words that created the internet. But it’s come under intense scrutiny in recent years, with critics saying that it’s the root cause of horrific online behavior. Bullying, hate speech, and misinformation? Critics say that’s all because of Section 230. But Section 230 is also wildly misunderstood, with journalists and politicians routinely misrepresenting what it does and doesn’t do, and using it as a pawn to achieve other political goals. Here to set the reco...2020-06-171h 19
TBD: Technology By DesignExpression and Surveillance: Trump’s Executive Order, Privacy, and Digital Contact TracingThe last 2 weeks in tech policy have been seismic. In this episode, Matt and Jen talk about online expression and President Trump’s Executive Order, about why Apple and Google were right to design their contact tracing system to be as privacy-protective as it is, and why despite this elegant design, digital contract tracing is unlikely to work. Listen in. Slate article Tech, Law, & Security Program Executive Order on Section 230 Professor Daskal's article on the Executive Order 2020-06-0342 min
TBD: Technology By DesignIs it okay to cry at work?Is it ok to cry at work? Is it ok to swear? If you show vulnerability, do you build your reputation or undermine it? That’s where we started our conversation with Yvette Bourcicot, who’s got some thoughts on how to deal with these issues in diverse work environments, from government agencies like the Air Force and the Pentagon, to tech companies like Facebook and AirBnB. Unfortunately, due to the outbreak of COVID-19, Yvette and 2,000 other friends and colleagues were laid off from AirBnB last week; but she's not letting this get her down. She is cur...2020-05-2050 min
TBD: Technology By DesignKnow 100 People FirstRick Barton has served as both a diplomat and an ambassador and was the Deputy High Commissioner at the UN High Commissioner for Refugees and the first Assistant Secretary of the Bureau of Conflict and Stabilization Operations in the State Department. One thing he learned over the course of his long career? Policy should always be people-driven. He gives us insight into what that means here. Listen in. Find out more about Amb. Barton's book, "Peace Works: America's Unifying Role in a Turbulent World" Learn more about Amb. Barton's visit to Duke for the American Grand Strategy 2020-05-0638 min
TBD: Technology By DesignHow Think Tanks Shape Foreign Tech PolicyRichard Fontaine is the CEO of the Center for a New American Security (CNAS). He came to Durham back in February and took some time to sit down with us to discuss the difference between life in DC vs. NC, and to tell us more about his life as a foreign policy expert. Listen in. Rising to the China Challenge. 2020-04-2249 min
TBD: Technology By DesignIf Willy Wonka had the World Wide WebMany of us grew up thinking that Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory was a far-fetched dream, but Sam Ratto has made chocolate making a reality in downtown Raleigh. He’s the co-founder and owner of Videri Chocolate, where he makes ethically-sourced chocolate bars and bonbons. We had the chance to sit down with him and hear about how he uses technology to get delicious chocolate into the hands of people who love it. What role does technology play in the life of a chocolate maker? And how does a global pandemic affect the day-to-day life of his small business? Listen 2020-04-081h 09
TBD: Technology By DesignMusic-Making with Technology (From Inside Quarantine)Brad Cook is a music producer based out of Durham, NC, who has produced bands like Bon Iver, Waxahatchee, and Hiss Golden Messenger. In this episode, he talks us through the technology of music-making and also gives us an update on the life of a music producer from inside quarantine. Are virtual reality concerts on the horizon? Stay tuned to find out. Link to NYT's Video, The Diary of a Song Article about Brad in Pitchfork Listen to the new Waxahatchee Album 2020-04-0159 min
TBD: Technology By Design#COVID19: Paul Farmer on Technology and Medical DesertsPaul Farmer is a Harvard professor, the founder of Partners in Health, and a global leader in public health. In our current moment, a moment of health chaos, when each day brings news that seems unprecedented and frightening, Dr. Farmer's voice is a voice we need. He urges us to think broadly about the meaning of technology, to think twice before we act too quickly to sacrifice quality for scale, and to know a place well enough that you can celebrate its progress over time.2020-03-2532 min
TBD: Technology By DesignBrexit Tech DiplomacyHow do you make the case that the United Kingdom is a strong trading partner for the United States, right at the moment when they are making the exit from the European Union? That's the job of Antony Phillipson, Her Majesty's Trade Commissioner for North America, and the leading British diplomat for trade in the US. In this episode, Antony tells us about a day in the life of Her Majesty’s Trade Commissioner and discusses how he’s navigating Brexit in his role. 2020-03-1833 min
TBD: Technology By DesignReporting on Coronavirus from Inside QuarantineShan Li is a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, based in Beijing, China. She covered the early outbreak of the coronavirus in Wuhan, and has now been quarantined twice, once in China and once in California. We talk with Shan about the benefits and pitfalls of online expression in the midst of a public health crisis. How do you report on an outbreak in a country so concerned with censorship? And what was it like to be in America’s first mandatory quarantine since the smallpox outbreak in the 1960s? Listen in to find out. Inside China's Gia...2020-03-0645 min
TBD: Technology By DesignThe Craft of Tech Policy ReportingIn a moment of toxic politics, hot takes, and diatribes fired off on Facebook and Twitter, how do you cover Tech Policy deeply and fairly? David McCabe is a tech policy reporter for TheNew York Times, and he’s seeking an answer to this question through his intense dedication to his craft. In this episode, David and Matt discuss the relationship between the press and big tech companies, the craft of reporting, and what it's like to be a journalist in Washington. 2020-03-0446 min
TBD: Technology By DesignEurope's New AI Strategy*BONUS EPISODE* Tech Policy is a rapidly evolving field, and from time-to-time we hope to release these bonus episodes to give you some insight into things as they're happening in real time. This week, the European Union released a new set of rules on Artificial Intelligence and Andrew Woods, Professor of Law at the University of Arizona, was asked by the media for comment on this new set of rules. He gave us his insight here. Show Notes EU white paper on artificial intelligence: https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/commission-white-paper-artificial-intelligence-feb2020_en.pdf...2020-02-2141 min
TBD: Technology By DesignThe Tech Horizon at VerizonGabrielle Kohlmeier used to suffer from Imposter Syndrome: she spent hours agonizing over whether she was good enough for her job, what her boss thought of her, and whether one mistake at her job might cost her a successful career. But she doesn't do that anymore. Gabi's love of tech, being part of a business environment, and studying diversity and leadership has helped her quell the imposter syndrome that felt paralyzing before she got into the tech arena. She's moved outside of her head and into a space of mental freedom and opportunity. Gabi now spends her energy investing...2020-02-1959 min
Policy 360Should Political Ads on Social Media be Regulated?In this episode, we sit down with two people with different views for a conversation about social media platforms and political advertising. Matt Perault is a former director of Public Policy at Facebook. Phil Napoli is author of Social Media and the Public Interest: Media Regulation in the Disinformation Age. Both are faculty members at the Sanford School of Public Policy at Duke. Matt Perault's podcast is TBD: Technology By Design Phil Napoli's book is Social Media and the Public Interest: Media Regulation in the Disinformation Age Read the episode transcript Music: Blue Dot Sessions / Licensed und...2020-02-0526 min
TBD: Technology By DesignTechnology and the Meaning of LifeHow can we use technology in a way that is purposeful? In this conversation, Matt and Franklin Foer discuss the blurry lines of technological boundaries, what it means to take a tech sabbath and the art of craftsmanship in our daily lives. Franklin Foer is a staff writer for The Atlantic, lecturer at Georgetown University, and author of World Without Mind. He has spent an extensive amount of time thinking (and writing) about technology and its impact on our lives.2020-02-0541 minPolicy 360Designing Tech Policies for an Audience of BillionsIs tech moving too fast for policymakers to catch up? A conversation with Matt Perault. He served as a director of public policy at Facebook. He is now a faculty member at the Sanford School of Public Policy at Duke, and director of the Center on Science and Technology Policy. Music: The Zeppelin by Blue Dot Sessions Music licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 2020-01-2225 min
TBD: Technology By DesignCompetition and FacebookSam Knox is the Associate General Counsel for Competition at Facebook, and one of the company's leading lawyers on antitrust issues. Matt and Sam worked closely together when he was at Facebook: she was a great mentor and a great friend, and we were lucky to have her on the podcast. Together, Matt and Sam reminisce on what made their team so strong, talk about some of the top issues facing the antitrust community, and discuss what it's like being a leading woman in a male-dominated industry. 2020-01-2234 min
TBD: Technology By DesignBig Spoon Tackles Big Tech Mark Overbay, founder of Big Spoon Roasters, joins Matt for a discussion on the founding of his business, and how he has used social media and technology to grow his business. This episode is best enjoyed with a jar of Big Spoon Nut Butter in your hand! Senator Elizabeth Warren’s plan to break up big tech firms Bon Appetit’s piece on Big Spoon 2020-01-0854 min
TBD: Technology By DesignThe US/China Tech Cold WarWhen you're working in the tech sector, China is one of the most difficult challenges you face: with over a billion residents, there's so much economic potential, but there are also so many challenges to face in the Chinese market. It's a difficult place to do business. When you're facing these types of challenges, you need a guide to help navigate them. Samm Sacks was Matt's guide during his time at Facebook, which is why we've asked her to come on the podcast. Together, Matt and Samm discuss China and technology, what the NBA can learn from tech companies...2019-12-1843 min
TBD: Technology By DesignMatt Perault on Competition LoreThis episode of TBD: Technology By Design, is brought to you by another podcast, Competition Lore, with Caron Beaton-Wells. Competition Lore is a podcast series that engages us all in a debate about the transformative potential and risks of digitalized competition. Caron Beaton-Wells, Professor in Competition Law at the University of Melbourne, tackles what it means to participate as a competitor, consumer or citizen in a digital economy and society. This recording originally aired on Competition Lore on December 5th, 2019, and Caron graciously agreed to allow us to co-publish it here. If we regulate to protect privacy, do...2019-12-1147 min
TBD: Technology By DesignFour Ways to Fix Social Media's Political Ads Problem - Without Banning ThemIt was a rainy Thursday afternoon when Matt received a text from Daniel Kreiss, telling him to keep an eye on the news that day. A few minutes later, Twitter announced that they would be banning all political ads in the 2020 election. They immediately agreed that Twitter’s decision was the wrong one: political advertising has its downsides, but there are a lot of benefits too. A blanket ban gets rid of the bad stuff, but it gets rid of the good stuff too. Together, Matt and Daniel wrote an op-ed for the NYT proposing four possible solutions that Tw...2019-12-0454 min
Competition Lore PodcastDeveloping policy at Facebook?If we regulate to protect privacy, do we risk competition? If we regulate to strengthen competition, do we risk innovation? If we regulate to exclude harmful content, do we risk free speech? Over-simplified perhaps, but these are in essence some of the hard questions in tech policy right now, and grappling with such questions from within a tech company must be one of the most challenging jobs there is. In this episode we are joined by Matt Perault, former head of global policy development at Facebook. Matt has looked the challenges squarely in the eye...2019-12-0447 min
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