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The Relational Social Work Podcast
Luke Rodgers: More than a story
Send us a textThis week Matt and Hannah are joined by Luke Rodgers, a lived experienced leader, award winning social entrepreneur and the founder and CEO of Care Leaders. This episode explores the reasons behind why Luke made the decision to stop sharing his own story of being in care, his views on care experience as a protected characteristic, and key messages for social workers about working with children in care and care leavers. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of t...
2025-06-30
1h 12
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Lemn Sissay: Gold from the Stone – care, poetry and Christmas dinners
Send us a textThis week Hannah and Matt are joined by Lemn Sissay, poet, writer and founder and trustee of the Gold from the Stone Foundation. In this episode Lemn shares his experiences of being a young person in care and leaving care, and the importance of love and care in the care system. We discuss poetry, writing, the Gold from the Stone Foundation, and Lemn flips the episode and asks Matt and Hannah about their experiences of social work.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested...
2025-06-23
54 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Catherine Gladwell: Refugee Week – Community as a superpower
Send us a textThis week Matt and Hannah are joined by Catherine Gladwell, Founder and Chief Executive of Refugee Actions UK to talk about the importance of education for refugee and asylum-seeking children. The episode explores some of the insights that Catherine has gained from working with children, young people and teachers through humanitarian work, and how this led to her founding Refugee Education UK.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas...
2025-06-16
54 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Dr Lisa Cherry: Weaving a Web of Belonging
Send us a textThis episode begins by Hannah and Matt discussing the tragic event which happened at the Liverpool Premier League celebrations, and the reaction to this in the media and online. Hannah and Matt are then joined by Dr Lisa Cherry, to talk about her new book, ‘Weaving a Web of Belonging’. The episode explores trauma informed practice, key messages from the book, and Lisa’s health and the impact that her diagnosis and the medication has had on her. The episode ends with reflections from Coventry practitioners who attended Lisa’s book launch which took pla...
2025-06-09
1h 14
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Jo Williams: Supervision and the spaces in between
Send us a textIn this episode Hannah and Matt are joined by Jo Williams, an independent social work consultant, author and research, with a particular interest in supervision and social work leadership. This episode explores the components of good quality supervision, and how supervision does not only take place within one-to-one and group settings, but that situational supervision happens in the spaces in between. This episode also explores the impact of home and hybrid working since Covid-19 on team relationships and supervision.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are...
2025-06-02
54 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Donald Forrester: From AI to difficult conversations – practice considerations for social work practice moving forwards
Send us a textIn this episode Matt and Hannah are joined by Donald Forrester, Professor of Child and Family Social Work at Cardiff University, the Director of CASCADE the Children’s Social Care Research and Development Centre, and the Deputy Director SCALE the Centre Social Care and Artificial Intelligence Learning. The episode explores the use of AI in social work, the importance of love in social work practice, and how social workers have difficult but necessary conversations with the families that they work with.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We...
2025-05-26
1h 06
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Cllr Pat Seaman: The role of local politics in Children’s Services
Send us a textIn this episode Matt and Hannah are joined by Cllr Pat Seaman, Lead Member for Children’s at Coventry City Council. Pat talks about the importance of relationships, community and help being available for families when they are in need. We discuss Pat’s journey into politics and the role that local politics plays in how Children’s Services is delivered, and the role of the Lead Member for Children’s Services.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the e...
2025-05-19
49 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Isabelle Trowler: The future of social work according to the Chief Social Worker
Send us a textThis episode starts by announcing which two of our newsletter subscribers are the first winners of a Madlug bag and some podcast merchandise. Hannah and Matt are then joined by Isabelle Trowler, Chief Social Worker for Children and Families. The episode explores Isabelle’s role as Chief Social Worker, and social work as a political profession. Isabelle shares learning from Pathfinders and how this will support Local Authorities to rethink and redesign services, with a particular focus on Multi Agency Child Protection Teams and the interface with Family Help. Conversations explore the benefits, ch...
2025-05-12
57 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Rachael Wardell: Episode brought to you in affiliation with the Association of Directors of Children's Services
Send us a textIn this episode Matt and Hannah speak with Rachael Wardell, Executive Director of Children, Families and Lifelong Learning (DCS) at Surrey County Council and President of The Association of Directors of Children’s Services (ADCS). This episode explores the work of the ADCS and Rachael’s hopes for her presidency, including tackling child poverty, championing diverse senior leadership in Children’s Services, and social care reforms. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedbac...
2025-05-05
58 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Dave Linton: Make a difference luggage - can bags bring dignity to care leavers
Send us a textWe are back after having a break over Easter with the first episode of Series 3! In this episode, Matt and Hannah chat with Dave Linton, founder and CEO at Madlug. This episode explores how Dave went from being a youth worker to a social entrepreneur, after hearing how many children in care have to move their belongings in bin bags, and that the Madlug movement aims to end this, and celebrate how incredible young people in care and leaving care are. This episode also announces an exciting partnership between Madlug and The Relational...
2025-04-28
54 min
The Maverick Show: Remote Entrepreneurship and World Travel
Rainbow Remote, Building Community, and How to Become a Location-Independent Freelancer in 5 Days with Hannah Dixon
Learn how to use the skills you already have to become a fully-remote freelancer in 5 days so you can travel the world. _____________________________Subscribe to TheMaverick Show’s Monday Minute Newsletterwhere I email you 3 short items of value to start each week that you canconsume in 60 seconds (all personal recommendations like the latest travel gearI'm using, my favorite destinations, discounts for special events, etc.). Follow TheMaverick Show on Instagram ____________________________________Hannah Dixon joins Matt from Guanajuato, Mex...
2025-04-14
1h 04
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Laurie Kilby: Weekending - reimagining fostering through the lens of relationships
Send us a textIt’s the final episode of Series 2! In this episode Hannah and Matt are joined by Laurie Kilby, Co-Founder and Practice Lead at the charity Now Foster. This episode explores Weekenders, an innovative approach to foster care, based on wrapping love and support around young people, building life long relationships and connection, and taking on the role of a foster aunt or uncle, rather than foster parent. This scheme enables people to step into fostering who might not otherwise have fostered, staying with children throughout their lives, & providing opportunities and experiences based around th...
2025-03-31
41 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
The Relational Social Work Podcast Live: What role does Children’s Services have in a tumultuous world?
Send us a textThis episode was recorded at Compass Jobs Fair in Birmingham with a live studio audience. First Matt and Hannah speak with Kellie Doubtfire (Publishing and Events Director at Compass) about Compass and Social Work Today, before speaking with a panel of guests: Beverley Barnett-Jones (Associate Director at Nuffield Family Justice Observatory), Rich Devine, (Consultant Social Worker), Hannah McCowen (National Leaving Care Bench Marking Forum Manager at Catch 22) and Tim Fisher (Practice Lead at the charity, Kinship). This episode explores how Children’s Services navigates its role within society where there is division, inequality, un...
2025-03-24
50 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Diversity and Inclusion in the Family Justice System: A Family Justice Council Conference special
Send us a textThis week’s episode was recorded at the Family Justice Council Conference in Birmingham. Hannah and Matt are joined first by Sir Andrew McFarlane, President of the Family Division, Head of Family Justice and Chair of the Family Justice Council, to discuss the role of the Family Justice Council before sharing some key messages for social workers about working in proceedings. Jenny Beck KC, Solicitor, Private Law representative on the Family Justice Council and Chair of the Nuffield Family Justice Observatory Board then speaks with Matt and Hannah about supporting neurodivergent children and fa...
2025-03-17
42 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Ryan O'Donnell: A story fit for Hollywood - A foster carer and father fighting for reunification in a broken system
Send us a textIn this episode Hannah and Matt chat with Ryan O’Donnell, Co-Founder and CEO of Sunlight and previous foster carer in America, about his experience of fostering a young boy who had “no family” and how a chance encounter found his father. This episode explores a journey of reunification which saw many injustices for a black father and his son, the friendship that developed between Ryan and this father, and how Ryan and his wife advocated throughout for the little boy, his father and paternal family to bring them together.Thank you fo...
2025-03-10
59 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Yvette Stanley: Ofsted’s next chapter - rethinking inspection and focusing on what matters
Send us a textIn this episode, Matt and Hannah speak with Yvette Stanley, National Director of Social Care at Ofsted about inspection and regulation. The episode explores how Ofsted captures relationships, love and care in their reports, and how they have embraced relational practice. Yvette talks about the changes that are coming to the ILACS (Inspecting Local Authority Children’s Services) framework, how this fits with social care reforms, how Ofsted views practice approaches, and how they are embedded in Local Authorities. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are alw...
2025-03-03
1h 01
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Sue and Chloe, The House Project: Moving on in community
Send us a textIn this episode Matt and Hannah chat with Sue Hammersley, Director at National House Project, and Chloe, Care Leavers National Movement Champion, about the work of the National House Project and changing the narrative in relation to young people with care experience. The episode explores the importance of relationships, and how these relationships support young people leaving care moving into their own homes. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or i...
2025-02-24
51 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Dez Holmes: What role does research play in practice?
Send us a textIn this episode Dez Holmes, Director of Research in Practice and Strategic Director of the National Children’s Bureau, talks with Matt and Hannah about evidence informed practice, the complexities of relational practice and how practice is a by-product of systems, leadership and infrastructure.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas for future topics. Stay connected and join the conversation on our social media channels! LinkedIn: The relational So...
2025-02-17
1h 01
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Tony Stanley: Should UK social work be aspiring to follow the Land of the Long White Cloud?
Send us a textIn this episode Hannah and Matt are joined from New Zealand by Tony Stanley, National Practice Advisor at Oranga Tamariki – Ministry for Children. The episode explores child protection practice in both New Zealand and the UK and the importance of practice frameworks as a scaffold for social work practice. Tony talks with Matt and Hannah about Family Group Conferences and provides a critique on the term ‘family-led’ in social work.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episod...
2025-02-10
56 min
The Gal's Guide
New Year, New Me… New Bachelor Breakup: Rachael Kirkconnell + Matt James, Starting Over in Life, & Moving On From Your Former Self
starting over life is never easy no matter if it’s your career, love life, or former toxic tendencies. Right now there’s no couple that knows that better than Rachael Kirkconnell and Matt James, but we’re also discussing the newest season of The Bachelor, how we have had to reinvent ourselves countless times to start over, and why the men from The Bachelor always suck.---Stream Hannah's album, PHASES!Watch Emily's Short Film, All We Were!Emily's TikTok Shop---Emily's Captivation: Fairlife Chocolate Protein S...
2025-02-03
1h 14
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Anna Glinski: Finding hope in dark places
Send us a textThis episode starts with Matt and Hannah’s reflections on the discussion they with Josh MacAlister last week. Hannah and Matt are then joined by Anna Glinski, Deputy Director of the Centre of Expertise on Child Sexual Abuse. The episode explores some of the recommendations of The Child Safeguarding Practice Review Panel’s report into protecting and responding to child sexual abuse within the family environment, and the importance of practitioners feeling confident to talk about sexual abuse. Anna shares tips and insights into working with children and families where there has been sexu...
2025-02-03
53 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Josh MacAlister: Disrupting and Reforming Children's Social Care
Send us a textIn this episode Matt and Hannah chat with Josh MacAlister, Labour MP, former teacher, founder of Frontline and Chair of the Independent Review of Children’s Social Care. The episode explores the progress of social care reforms since the review was published, how it has informed the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill, and his hopes for the future of social work with children and their families.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your fe...
2025-01-27
1h 01
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Emily Frith: Making adoption work in the 21st Century
Send us a textIt’s Blue Monday, so this episode starts with Matt and Hannah sharing some of their own struggles with their mental health and wellbeing. They are then joined by Emily Frith, CEO of Adoption UK, exploring the importance of relationships and support in adoption, open adoption and what this means for children, birth families and adoptive families, and the importance of the right support being in place for all involved.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the ep...
2025-01-20
48 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Katrin Bain and John Harris: Parents as citizens – ensuring they are not forgotten in child protection
Send us a textIt’s the first episode of Series 2, and Hannah, Matt and Producer Arin are delighted to be back in the studio. In this episode Matt and Hannah chat with Katrin and John about their book, ‘Social Work, Parents and the Child Protection Process’. This episode includes an exploration of some of the representations of parents which Katrin and John have identified through their research, and what this can mean for how social workers work with parents, and the notion of parents as citizensThank you for listening to The Relational Social Work P...
2025-01-13
52 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Always Hope: Bringing innovative change to complex systems
Send us a textIn the final episode of series 1, Hannah, Matt and Producer Arin talk about previous episodes, sharing their reflections of the series as a whole. Matt and Hannah then chat with Jessie Ben-Ami and Frances Flaxington from The Innovation Unit about the work they do, with a particular focus on Always Hope, a project which has brought prison, probation and Children’s Social Care together, to provide a more joined up and impactful approach to working with care experienced young adults leaving custody. Make sure you listen to the end, where Coventry City Council ch...
2024-12-16
57 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Sukriti Sen: Fighting for fairness - from Bangladeshi school girl to Coventry’s DCS
Send us a textIn this episode Matt and Hannah speak with Sukriti Sen, the Director of Coventry City Council’s Children’s and Education Services. Sukriti shares her experiences of growing up as a person of colour, her experiences of racism, her sense of fairness, and the importance of Children’s Services representing the communities that they serve, and how this led her into social worker. Discussions include the importance of relationships, the financial challenges faced by Local Authorities, the ethical issues in relation to AI in social worker, and her hope for the future of social...
2024-12-09
47 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Beth Vecchione: Changing lives through the arts
Send us a textIn this episode Matt and Hannah chat with Beth Vecchione, founder and Director of Care to Dance, about the impact that dance can have on the lives of care experienced young people. The episode explores the importance of access to the arts, trauma informed approaches, and how social work can be brought into a creative space to support young people to thrive.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas...
2024-12-02
47 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
The Children and Families Truth Commission: Listening to voices which are hard to hear
Send us a textIn this week’s episode Hannah and Matt speak with Michele Simmons, Simon Howarth and Natasha Phillips, authors of ‘Eroding the Right to Family Life: Human Rights violations in Britain’s child protection systems’. This episode explores the findings of this report, developed through the voices of over 600 parents and young people who have experienced child protection and care proceedings, exploring the harm the system can cause, as well as recommendations of how the system can work better ‘with’ children and their families. For social workers and others working in the child protection system, this...
2024-11-25
51 min
The Hannah Frankman Podcast
Matt Bateman: How Bad is AI-Enabled Cheating?
Matt Bateman returns to the Hannah Frankman Podcast for the third time! Matt is the co-founder of Higher Ground Montessori, one of the largest networks of Montessori schools in the world. Matt was a former philosophy professor at universities and is an expert in early childhood development. This episode is all about AI in education. Expect to learn about the developments that have taken place since ChatGPT became widely available, the presence of cheating with AI and how to combat it, AI products that Matt is excited about, and how to prepare kids for...
2024-11-21
1h 20
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Stories from Childhood: A World Children’s Day Special
Send us a textTo mark World Children’s Day which takes place on 20th November, in this episode Matt, Hannah and producer Arin, will share stories from their childhoods, reflect on how these experiences have shaped them, and reminisce about their favourite TV programmes and childhood foods. This episode explores identity, loss, shame, strength and the importance of wider family in children’s lives.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas for futu...
2024-11-18
47 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Professor Richard Rose: Ghosts and Monsters - how our stories impact our today
Send us a textIn this episode Professor Richard Rose speaks with Matt and Hannah about therapeutic life story work and the importance of helping children and young people make sense of their stories, and how this can support healing from trauma.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas for future topics. Stay connected and join the conversation on our social media channels! LinkedIn: The relational Social Work PodcastInstagram: @RelationalSW
2024-11-11
47 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Tim Fisher & Rich Devine: What is relational activism?
Send us a textIn this episode Matt and Hannah chat with Tim and Rich about the meaning of relational activism, what this looks like in the context of child protection practice, and how family group conferences, connecting with the community, and parents participation and peer advocacy are key to relational practice.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas for future topics. Stay connected and join the conversation on our social media channels!
2024-11-04
58 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Hannah McCowen: What does our response to care leavers say about us as a nation?
Send us a textTo mark National Care Leavers Week 2024, in this episode Matt and Hannah chat with Hannah McCowen, National Leaving Care Benchmarking Forum Manager at Catch 22 about some of the challenges that care leavers face in the UK, some amazing work which is happening with care leavers across the country, and how as a society we need to do more, to support care leavers to flourish. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, o...
2024-10-28
46 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Pam Ledward: Putting families and kinship carers at the heart of the care system
Send us a textTo mark Kinship Week 2024, in this episode Pam Ledward, Principal Social Work Adviser at Family Rights Group talks with Matt and Hannah about working ‘with’ families, in their widest sense, including how Family Rights Group champions kinship carers, and changes that the organisation would like to see in how kinship carers are supported.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas for future topics. Stay connected and join the conversation on o...
2024-10-11
54 min
The Relational Social Work Podcast
Dr. Beverley Barnett-Jones: Bringing hope into social work
Send us a textEpisode 1 featuring Dr. Beverley Barnett-Jones, Associate Director for System and Impact at the Nuffield Justice Observatory. This episode will introduce you to the podcast hosts, Matt Clayton and Hannah Bedford, and explore how to create hope and support change with families, recognising the struggles which families face, balancing when the state needs to intervene in the lives of children, young people and families, considering the stress which state intervention can cause for families, balancing this with the need to safeguard children and young people from significant harm, and considering how to support those...
2024-09-19
57 min
Expansive CEO
Episode 111: What is Integral Theory and How Does It Help Create Businesses Aligned to Goodness, Truth, and Beauty? With Dr. Matt K
As a heart-centered entrepreneur, you long for your business to make the world a better place. That means you have to build your business backwards, starting with caring about what you do and who you serve, instead of focusing only on increasing transactions. So how do we bridge the gap between goodness and profit to build a business that serves us and others? In this episode, Hannah Chapman, CFP, APMA, CRPC, discusses with Dr. Matt Kreinheder, a chiropractor, how the integral neurotic sciences helps you create a more meaningful and prosperous business AKA a “benevolence ge...
2024-07-23
39 min
Creative Courage
Finding Your Flow and Achieving Your Potential with Hannah Power
Have you ever had one of those weeks where you feel like everything in your business is in flow? Where everything feels easy, it feels fun, it feels exciting… In this episode, I’m joined by Hannah Power, to discover how we can reach this feeling of flow more often within our business and our lives. Hannah is a personal branding and performance coach, best-selling author and the founder of Amplify. She’s coached over 500 people to help them to find meaning in their lives and achieve their potential. We unpack how to recognise the symptom...
2024-05-29
1h 08
Just Shoot It: A Podcast about Filmmaking, Screenwriting and Directing
The Maestro of Music Videos w/Hannah Lux Davis - Just Shoot It 423
This week, Matt & Oren are joined by powerhouse music video director, Hannah Lux Davis, to discuss her filmmaking journey and working with incredible artists!Matt's Endorsement: The Brothers Bloom OSTOren's Endorsement: Hungry Hungry HipposHannah's Endorsement: Charli XCXContribute to the Just Shoot It Patreon and help the show.Send feedback or questions to @justshootitpod or justshootitpod@gmail.com.Follow Matt on twitter and instagram.Follow Oren on twitter and instagram.Wanna be on the show? Call us wi...
2024-05-16
1h 19
Free Burn 2023
Burn #23 Hannah Elmore with The IAFF Center of Excellence
Hannah is a clinical social worker serving first responders on the outreach team for the IAFF Center of Excellence for Behavioral Health Treatment and Recovery. The IAFF Center of Excellence is a one-of-a-kind treatment facility specializing in PTSD for professional fire service members who struggle with trauma, substance use, addiction and other related behavioral health challenges. Hannah works with first responders through connection to behavioral health resources, providing education, and offering support. Hannah educates on behavioral health topics pertaining to the fire service and first responder communities to departments, peer teams, families and clinicians. Ha...
2024-03-14
1h 04
The Hannah Frankman Podcast
Matt Bateman: The Christmas Grinch Episode: What’s Wrong with Our Education System?
Matt Bateman is a philosopher in residence and co-founder of Higher Ground Montessori, one of the largest networks of Montessori schools in the world. Matt was a former philosophy professor at universities, is an expert in early childhood development, and has been working in the Montessori world for years. In this episode, among many things, you’ll learn why ed tech as a sector is failing, the reasons for declining academic standards, whether we’re experiencing a teacher crisis, and whether there’s hope for the future of education This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company https://www.johnga...
2023-12-21
1h 32
The Overlook with Matt Peiken
Heavy Mettle | Singer-Songwriter Hannah Kaminer
Asheville singer-songwriter Hannah Kaminer has established a pattern of processing and naming the heaviness in life through her music. On the heels of her previous album, “Heavy Magnolias,” comes “Heavy on the Vine,” a new collection of lush music underscoring lyrics born from personal turmoil and evolution.Today, Hannah guides us through her departure from organized religion and her societal observations born through song. We’ll also talk about tacklung her anxiety by studying and performing theatrical improv. And we’ll preview cuts from a record before anyone else hears them. Hannah launches “Heavy on the Vine” with a January 4...
2023-12-08
31 min
The Awfully Quiet Podcast
#04: Matt Abrahams on How To Master Impromptu Communication At Work (incl. Small Talk For Introverts) and Speak Confidently When Put on the Spot
Does Small Talk make you uncomfortable? Do you feel terrified at the idea of spontaneously speaking up at work? Then this episode is a must-listen.I am joined by Matt Abrahams on the Podcast, Lecturer in Organizational Behavior at Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business, host of the award-winning Podcast Think fast, Talk smart, and author of the newly released book Think Faster, Talk Smarter: How to Speak Successfully When You’re Put on the Spot.If you are looking to get more comfortable with spontaneous communication at work, being able to respond when put on the spot in...
2023-11-21
35 min
The Overlook with Matt Peiken
Taxing Representation | Artist Hannah Cole
Hannah Cole is an Asheville artist who translates her everyday observations into her studio craft. These observations started out as external. Now, partially inspired by the incursion of artificial intelligence, Hannah's newest body of work sees her turn her gaze inward.Here, I talk with Hannah about what representation by human hands means in the era of AI. We also talk about Hannah’s turn to accounting and personal finance and building a career helping other creatives manage their money. Hannah Cole’s show at Tracey Morgan Gallery, “A Mirror, Not a Window,” opens Nov. 3 and runs...
2023-11-03
29 min