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Two Women ChattingAnna Williamson | Emotional Intimacy, Family Conflict & Dating in MidlifeIn this warm, insightful, and laugh-out-loud episode, Michelle Ford sits down with presenter, counsellor, and podcast powerhouse Anna Williamson to explore one of midlife’s biggest topics: staying emotionally connected when life, family and festive chaos compete for your attention.Anna shares how emotional intimacy and active listening keeps long-term relationships thriving, why communication is usually at the heart of every issue, and how understanding the “seasons” of life can help couples navigate natural shifts - even after decades together. They also talk about the highs, lows, and emotional dynamics behind shows like I’m a Celebrity...
2025-12-1642 min
Two Women ChattingEmma Bardwell | Why Fibre Might Be the Midlife Superpower You’re MissingIn this fun, laugh-filled and genuinely eye-opening episode, Michelle Ford sits down with women’s health nutritionist Emma Bardwell to tackle one of the most underrated pillars of midlife wellbeing: fibre - the true unsung hero of women’s health. Between giggles over “poophoria” (yes, it’s a thing!) and some serious myth-busting, Michelle and Emma unpack why getting enough fibre and protein is essential - especially if you’re using GLP-1 weight-loss injections like Ozempic, Wegovy or Mounjaro. As Emma explains, these medications slow digestion, making fibre even more important for gut motility, nutrient absorption and long-term health.For...
2025-11-2532 min
Two Women ChattingSally Morgan | The Secret Midlife Power You’ve Been Ignoring: Trust Your Gut & Connect with SpiritIn this deeply comforting and enlightening episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle Ford is joined by world-renowned psychic medium Sally Morgan to explore intuition, gut instinct, and the soul’s journey beyond the physical world.Sally shares how midlife is often a time when our psychic awareness and intuition naturally open up, giving us a stronger “spidey sense” and a clearer connection to the spiritual realm. She explains why trusting your gut isn’t just a metaphor - it’s a powerful way to navigate life, make decisions, and sense the energy around you.The conv...
2025-11-1835 min
Two Women ChattingDr Helen Wall | ADHD in Midlife? Why It’s Not Too Late to Finally Understand Your BrainIn this enlightening and deeply relatable episode, Michelle Ford sits down with Dr Helen Wall - GP, women’s health advocate and neurodiversity specialist — to unpack why so many women are being diagnosed (or self-diagnosing) with ADHD in midlife.Together, they explore how fluctuating hormones, juggling life in the sandwich generation, and seeing their children diagnosed are prompting many women to finally recognise traits in themselves. But this isn’t about “jumping on a trend” - it’s about understanding how ADHD can show up differently in women, and why it’s been hidden for so long.
2025-11-1139 min
Two Women ChattingDonna Ashworth | Midlife Joy & Letting Go of PerfectionIn this uplifting episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by Britain's number 1 bestselling nonfiction author Donna Ashworth to explore the healing power of poetry, the importance of community, and the choice to embrace joy - even in life’s most challenging moments. From her journey as an Instagram poet to becoming a celebrated author, Donna shares the philosophy behind her latest anthology Joy Chose You and the deeply personal process of curating poems that resonate with readers. Together, Michelle and Donna discuss how words can act as medicine for the soul, the role of female empowerment and fr...
2025-10-0740 min
Two Women Chatting🎙️ Season 10 of Two Women Chatting is here!Michelle Ford is back with a brand-new season of Two Women Chatting – the podcast for midlife women - and this time, the universe has spoken: the theme is JOY.In this trailer, Michelle shares what’s coming up in Season 10, including conversations with some incredible guests:✨ Elizabeth Day on her moving new book One of Us✨ Donna Ashworth on her uplifting anthology Joy Chose You✨ Jane Moore with her wise, witty take on midlife✨ Gaby Roslin on spreading joy in everyday life✨ Nicky Hambleton-Jones on being bolder not old...
2025-09-2802 min
Two Women ChattingSummer Rewind: Jenny Eclair on Life After MenopauseIn the latest 'out of the archives' Summer Rewind episode, we revisit our hilarious, sharp and heartfelt conversation with comedian, author and podcaster Jenny Eclair, all about life after menopause, ageing unapologetically, and embracing the next chapter with grit, wit, and a sense of humour.💬 What You’ll Hear In This Episode:Why boredom in your 50s and onwards is a myth – Jenny shares how she’s always busy, never bored, and how developing the “craft hormone” in midlife keeps her creative and curious.Menopause and beyond – the emotional rollercoaster, society’...
2025-08-0527 min
Two Women ChattingSummer Rewind: Dilly Carter on Clearing Clutter, Preserving Memories & Making SpaceIn this Summer Rewind episode of Two Women Chatting, we're joined by organisation expert and 'Sort Your Life Out' TV favourite Dilly Carter, bringing her no-nonsense wisdom and heartfelt compassion to one of midlife’s trickiest transitions - what to do with 'all the stuff' once the kids move out, or when it's time to help parents downsize.💬 We talk:* What’s really worth keeping from early memories (hint: maybe just one of each…)* How to involve your kids in what stays and what goes (they might surprise you!)* Turning c...
2025-07-2928 min
Two Women ChattingSummer Rewind: Andrea McLean on Midlife Reinvention, Loneliness & the Power of NoWe’re rewinding to one of our most inspiring chats on Two Women Chatting with the brilliant Andrea McLean - bestselling author, broadcaster and midlife reinvention queen.In this episode, Andrea gets real about the internal monologue of a midlife woman - from the fear of saying "no", to feeling small, stuck, or suddenly invisible. She talks candidly about loneliness, starting over, and creating a roadmap for life’s big decisions (even when they lead to gloriously messy detours).And yes - we absolutely discuss the time she was interviewing Oprah Winfrey while battling excessive nervous...
2025-07-2238 min
Two Women ChattingSummer Rewind: Dame Prue Leith on Colour, Confidence & the Courage to Talk About DyingSummer Rewind: We're revisiting some of our most memorable conversations - and this one is an absolute gem!In this inspiring archive episode, Dame Prue Leith joins Michelle to talk about living boldly, dressing brightly, and speaking out on issues that matter. Prue shares how embracing colour in midlife isn’t just about fashion - it’s about confidence, visibility and joy. Age, she insists, should never limit our choices or silence our sense of fun.The conversation then takes a heartfelt turn, as Prue opens up about her advocacy for...
2025-07-1533 min
Two Women ChattingKate Muir | Midlife Unfiltered: Menopause, Mind & Magnificence In this no-holds-barred conversation, Michelle chats with journalist, author, and campaigner Kate Muir about the silent epidemic affecting women in midlife - bone health. They unpack the emotional and physical toll of menopause, how hormonal changes can impact everything from mental health to neurodivergence, and why it’s time for women to take charge of their midlife wellbeing. From wild swimming to strength training to HRT, Kate advocates for preventative healthcare and reclaims the midlife “crisis” as a powerful turning point. Plus, she shares highlights from her new book, How to Have a Magnificent Midlife Crisis.K...
2025-06-1045 min
Two Women ChattingTova Leigh | Why Gossip is Your Secret PowerThis week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle welcomes the brilliant and bold Tova Leigh - writer, performer, and fierce advocate for female empowerment - for a refreshingly honest and insightful conversation. From reclaiming the word "gossip" as a force for good to navigating midlife friendships, Tova shares her journey of self-expression, boundary-setting and building meaningful female connections.They also dive into deeper issues like toxic masculinity, the rise of figures like Andrew Tate, and the role of technology in shaping how young boys and girls perceive themselves. Tova brings a fresh lens to complex issues, while...
2025-06-0337 min
Two Women ChattingMarie Thom & Yvonne Vincent | How Midlife Women Are Laughing, Living & Lifting Each Other UpThis week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by dynamic duo Marie Thom and Yvonne Vincent for a witty, heartfelt conversation about navigating midlife with confidence, creativity, and community. From finding their voices through writing to embracing ageing with a sense of humour, Marie and Yvonne share how life after 40 can be the most empowering chapter yet.They also introduce their exciting new podcast, Hear Me Roar, which celebrates the midlife journeys of both women and men - breaking down stereotypes and sparking conversations about confidence, body image and wellness. Whether it’s publishing a bo...
2025-05-1343 min
Two Women ChattingSinitta | The Untold Story: Fame, Family & Female PowerThis week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle welcomes pop icon and powerhouse woman Sinitta for an inspiring and deeply personal conversation. Sinitta opens up about her early career, her longtime friendship with Simon Cowell, the highs and lows of fame, and how she’s now using her platform to empower other women.From her early years shaped by a showbiz childhood to founding Sin's Angels, a collective for women rediscovering their strength, Sinitta shares what it means to find your voice, create space for others, and thrive on your own terms. Whether you're a fan of 80s po...
2025-04-2927 min
Two Women ChattingAnita Feron Clark | The Colour Code to ConfidenceThis week on Two Women Chatting, we’re exploring the fascinating world of colour psychology with expert Anita Feron Clark. Have you ever noticed how wearing a particular shade can lift your mood or make you feel more confident? Anita breaks down the science behind colour, its emotional impact, and how midlife women can harness it to enhance well-being, self-care and personal style. Whether you’re drawn to neutrals or love a bold pop of colour, this conversation will change the way you see your wardrobe - and yourself.Key Insights:🎙️ The Emotional Power of Colour...
2025-04-0135 min
Two Women ChattingSeason 9 - coming soon!Hello, and welcome back to another exciting season of Two Women Chatting with me, Michelle Ford. I’ll be diving deep into the heart of midlife topics that truly matter. Whether you're breezing through your early 40s or hitting those fabulous 50s, this season is packed full of engaging discussions that will empower, uplift, inspire, and entertain.Join me as I chat with an amazing array of guests—think celebrities, experts, actors, authors, campaigners, and yes, even a couple of distinguished Dames! I've got such an incredible lineup this season that you won't want to mi...
2025-03-1803 min
Two Women ChattingA Jolly Festive Christmas SpecialIn this festive episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle welcomes back Hannah Bartlett from Jolly Festive for another holiday season! Past Christmas episodes with Hannah have been among our most downloaded to date, so she’s back by popular demand to sprinkle more holiday cheer. Together, they dive into practical tips for making your money go further, taking care of yourself during the busy season, and embracing fun, sustainable ways to reuse Christmas decor and cards. Hannah also shares advice on staying safe from scams during the holidays. Finally, the episode wraps up with a special trip down memory la...
2024-12-1026 min
Two Women ChattingCaroline Boyle | Breathwork Saved Me: Cancer, Grief & the Power of the BreathIn this transformative episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle speaks with breath work coach Caroline Boyle, exploring the profound impact of breath work on wellness, mental health, and emotional resilience. Caroline shares her personal journey with breath work, especially its supportive role during her battle with breast cancer and the loss of her father. Together, they uncover the science and benefits behind conscious breathing, including its effectiveness for managing stress, enhancing athletic performance, supporting respiratory health, and even facilitating emotional release. Caroline offers practical techniques for integrating breath work into daily life, making it accessible for everyone looking to...
2024-11-1929 min
Two Women ChattingClare Jefferies | Supporting Our Ageing ParentsIn this insightful episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by Clare Jefferies, owner of four Home Instead franchises, who opens up about her journey into elder care and shares her experiences of caring for ageing parents. Clare emphasises the need for compassionate, person-centred care and offers practical advice on navigating the complexities of the ageing process. The conversation explores proactive approaches to caregiving, from creating safe home environments to discussing sensitive topics like power of attorney and incontinence support. Clare also shares tips on evaluating care homes, seeking help from social services, and the importance of self-care...
2024-11-1250 min
Two Women ChattingDame Prue Leith | Exploring Dignity in Dying and Confidence with ColourIn this inspiring episode, Dame Prue Leith joins Michelle to share her insights on embracing colour and confidence in midlife, encouraging listeners to experiment with their personal style as a means of self-expression. Prue discusses her philosophy that fashion should be fun and that age should never limit our choices. The conversation then moves to a deeply personal topic: assisted dying. Prue, an advocate for the right to a dignified death, shares her perspective on why this choice should be available and respected. She also introduces her latest cookbook, Life's Too Short to Stuff a Mushroom, which focuses on...
2024-11-0534 min
Two Women ChattingKate Rowe-Ham | Own Your Menopause, Fuel Your PowerIn this inspiring episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle sits down with wellness advocate and fitness expert Kate Rowe-Ham for a deep dive into the complex journey of menopause and future proofing our health. Kate shares her insights on how strength training, mindful nutrition and taking charge of personal well-being can transform this life stage. The conversation emphasises the power of health ownership, body confidence, and viewing menopause as a time of growth rather than limitation. Kate and Michelle also bond over their experiences with late ADHD diagnoses, sharing how understanding and embracing their diagnoses has brought a new p...
2024-10-2948 min
Two Women ChattingSusan Saunders | Outsmarting Dementia: Midlife Brain Health Hacks That WorkThis week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle sits down with Susan Saunders, a renowned brain health coach, to discuss the vital topic of brain health for women over 50. Susan shares her deeply personal journey of caring for her mother with dementia, which inspired her to dive into research on reducing her own risk and helping others do the same. With her expertise, she breaks down the steps we can take to prioritise brain health and offers hope for a healthier future.Key Insights: 🎙️Prioritising Brain Health: "Susan underscores the importance of taking a proactive, holist...
2024-10-2234 min
Two Women ChattingJessica Buchanan | Kidnapped in Somalia, Rescued by Navy SEAL Team 6Michelle sits down with Jessica Buchanan, a former teacher working in Somalia who shares her harrowing experience of being kidnapped and held captive for 93 days. Jess recounts the moment she realised something was wrong and the events that led to her abduction. She vividly describes the conditions she endured during captivity, including sleeping outside in the desert and facing the constant threat of violence. Despite the challenges, Jess demonstrates remarkable resilience and finds solace in introspection and planning for the future.Key Insights: 🎙️The Power of Instincts: "Jess emphasises the importance of trusting your i...
2024-10-1556 min
Two Women ChattingSuzy Reading | Sleep Better, Stress Less, and Love WinterIn this enlightening episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by psychologist, author and wellbeing expert Suzy Reading to share her top tips for improving sleep and embracing the winter season. Suzy offers practical advice on how to prioritise self-care, create a sleep-friendly routine and even find joy in the colder, darker months. From yoga nidra to gut health, Suzy explains how these often-overlooked factors can make a world of difference in how we sleep and thrive.Key Insights: 🎙️Selfishness vs. Self-Advocacy: Suzy discusses the misconception of selfishness when it comes to prioritising person...
2024-10-0835 min
Two Women Chatting Donna Ashworth | How Poetry, Colour & Everyday Bravery Empower Women in MidlifeIn this inspiring episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle welcomes Instagram poet and author Donna Ashworth to explore the transformative power of poetry, vibrant colour, and everyday bravery, especially for women in midlife. Donna shares her journey from blogger to acclaimed poet, revealing how creative expression can foster healing, resilience, and connection. Listeners will enjoy a live reading from Donna’s latest collection, Growing Brave, highlighting poetry’s unique ability to inspire and empower women across generations. Together, Michelle and Donna discuss embracing colour to boost mood, finding courage in small daily acts, and the role of acceptance in emot...
2024-10-0134 min
Two Women ChattingSue Cleaver | Finding Myself: Adoption, Identity & Midlife ReinventionIn this captivating episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle sits down with the beloved Coronation Street star Sue Cleaver to explore her deeply personal journey and her new book, A Work in Progress. Sue opens up about the complexities of her life, from being adopted and always feeling a bit different to her experiences of resilience, rebellion, and self-discovery. This episode is a heartfelt conversation about ageing positively, embracing who you are and finding joy in life’s second act.Key Insights: 🎙️Navigating Life as an Adoptee: Sue discusses how being adopted shaped her identity...
2024-09-2441 min
Two Women ChattingWelcome to Season 8!Michelle Ford is back with more inspiring chats, heartfelt stories, and laughter-filled moments in Season 8 of Two Women Chatting!Coming up, Michelle will be welcoming incredible guests, including Coronation Street star Sue Cleaver, who opens up about her new book A Work In Progress. Sue opens up about the complexities of her life, from being adopted (and her incredible story of finding her birth mother), always feeling a bit different, to her experiences of resilience, rebellion, and self-discovery. This episode is a heartfelt conversation about ageing positively, embracing who you are, and finding joy in life’s...
2024-09-1703 min
Two Women ChattingSara Davison | The Ultimate Divorce ToolkitIn the final episode of Season 7, Michelle sits down with Sara Davison, The Divorce Coach, to discuss the intricacies of navigating divorce in midlife. The conversation delves into the unique challenges faced by individuals during this stage of life and explores why divorce becomes more common, touching on factors such as empty nest syndrome and shifting priorities. Sara offers practical advice on finding a divorce lawyer, managing the cost of divorce, and understanding the different avenues available for ending a marriage.Key Insights: 🎙️Divorce in Midlife: Divorce in midlife can be a challenging experi...
2024-07-0943 min
Two Women ChattingJacynth Bassett | Let's drop the 'Best Before' date on WomenIn this episode, Michelle sits down with Jacynth Bassett, a leading pioneer and voice in the anti-ageism movement. Jacynth founded 'Ageism is Never in Style', a global consultancy, campaign, and community dedicated to addressing ageism in all its forms. Join them as they explore the impact of ageism on individuals of all ages and genders, and the intersectionality between ageism and sexism. Jacynth was behind viral campaigns #ILookMyAge #RemoveAntiFromAging viewed 40 million plus times on social media!Key Insights: 🎙️The Impact of Ageism: Ageism affects individuals of all ages and genders. Jacynth discusses how ageist narrat...
2024-07-0230 min
Two Women ChattingJo Tuffrey | Beating The Midlife DroopDo you feel the midlife droop setting in? In this episode, Michelle invites Jo Tuffrey, Pilates instructor and health professional, to discuss the physical and mental changes that occur during midlife. Jo shares her personal experience of going through early menopause and the challenges she faced. She also talks about her journey from being a PE teacher to becoming a Pilates instructor and the development of her online Pilates classes and Menopause Metamorphosis program, helping clients salvage strength and confidence in midlife.Key Insights: 🎙️Navigating Menopause: Menopause can have a significant impact on a woman...
2024-06-2534 min
Two Women ChattingJoanne Mallon | Midlife Calm in 5 MinutesDo you struggle to find five minutes a day to be calm? In this episode, Michelle sits down with Joanne Mallon, the author and life coach behind 'How to Find Calm in 5 Minutes'. Join them as they delve into the secrets of maintaining composure and finding peace in the midst of life's chaos.Key Insights:🎙️ The Reality Behind Appearances: Appearances can be deceiving, so avoid comparing yourself to others and remember that everyone has their own struggles. It’s easy to assume those that appear calm don’t have stress too. Remember - swan above the...
2024-06-1837 min
Two Women ChattingDawn Dines | Drink Spiking - the danger to midlife womenIn this episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle and special guest Dawn Dines, founder of Stamp Out Spiking, tackle the serious issue of drink spiking, with a particular focus on its rise among midlife individuals. They explore personal accounts, including a powerful testimony from Michelle's daughter Jemima, who shares her traumatic spiking experience in Singapore. Together, they discuss the importance of awareness and legislative change to better protect victims.Key Insights:🎙️ Understanding Drink Spiking: Dawn explains that drink spiking occurs when someone puts something in your system without your consent or knowledge. She emphasises that...
2024-06-1132 min
Two Women ChattingMidlife Mentors | Grumpy Old Men - is andropause real or a myth?In this episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle and special guests James and Claire Davis, also known as the Midlife Mentors, explore the challenges and opportunities that come with fluctuating hormones in midlife, with particular reference to andropause and its impact on ageing men. Michelle questions why it is that previously easy going men become stubborn and sometimes downright irritable in midlife - more grumpy 'Victor Meldrew' (the fictional character from BBC's One Foot in the Grave) and less smooth and charming George Clooney!Together they delve into the importance of embracing ageing positively and taking...
2024-06-0435 min
Two Women ChattingEsther Stanhope | Mastering Midlife Small Talk & Building ConfidenceIn this episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle and special guest Esther Stanhope, the Impact Guru, embark on an empowering journey of mastering midlife small talk and overcoming social anxieties. Esther shares her transformative journey of overcoming stage fright and building confidence in public speaking, emphasising the importance of authenticity and adding value to the audience.Key Insights:🎙️ Networking Strategies for Success: Esther and Michelle dive into practical networking strategies, highlighting the importance of asking questions, listening actively, and utilising open body language to initiate meaningful conversations. 🎙️ Embracing Imperfection: Esther encourages listeners t...
2024-05-2836 min
Two Women ChattingSarah Orecchia | The Benefits of Bee Products for Midlife WomenIn this enlightening episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by Sarah Orecchia, founder of Unbeelievable Health, to explore the powerful health benefits of bee products for women in midlife. Sarah shares her deep passion for bees and reveals how products like propolis, royal jelly, and bee pollen have been used for centuries to support menopausal symptoms, cognitive function, and healthy aging. They discuss the importance of sourcing high-quality bee products, protecting bees and biodiversity, and supporting women-owned businesses through the Buy Women Built movement.Key Insights:🎙️ Health Benefits of Bee Products: Learn how p...
2024-05-2133 min
Two Women ChattingCherry Healey | Midlife Manifesting & Intentional LivingWelcome back to Season 7 of Two Women Chatting with Michelle Ford! In this inspiring episode, Michelle sits down with Cherry Healey to explore the transformative power of manifesting and intentional living. They dive into practical ways to harness the law of attraction, overcome subconscious programming, and cultivate a healthier relationship with body image. Cherry shares candid insights from her personal journey, including struggles with disordered eating and her experiences on the TV series 10 Years Younger. This episode offers powerful takeaways for midlife women ready to manifest positive change and live intentionally.Key Insights: 🎙️ Understanding Manif...
2024-05-1431 min
Two Women ChattingDilly Carter | Decluttering the Empty Nest & Transforming Your SpaceKicking off Season 7 of Two Women Chatting in organised style is the wonderful Dilly Carter from BBC’s Sort Your Life Out. Though we say farewell to co-host Liz this season, she joins Michelle for one last interview with Dilly to uncover her top secrets for transforming spaces and bringing tranquillity into the home. Whether you’re downsizing, repurposing rooms, or simply seeking calm, Dilly shares expert advice to help midlife women create serene, organised living environments.Key Insights: 🎙️ Repurposing Spaces: Practical strategies for turning children’s rooms into fresh new spaces, including tips on boxing u...
2024-05-0732 min
Two Women ChattingJenny Eclair | Life After MenopauseJoin Michelle and Liz for a lively and candid conversation with Jenny Eclair, the comedic pioneer and author of acclaimed novels like 'Writing on the Wall' and 'Older and Wider'. In this episode, aptly titled 'Life After Menopause,' Jenny shares her anecdotes and insights on ageing, friendships, the entertainment industry, and the often hilarious, yet sometimes challenging journey of post-menopause.Key Insights:🎙️ Embracing Life After Menopause: "Jenny Eclair invites us into the world beyond menopause, revealing it as a realm of self-discovery and newfound authenticity."🎙️ Battling Ageism in Showbiz: "Explore the trench...
2024-03-2636 min
Two Women ChattingBonnie Langford: Back in Dr Who's Tardis!Picture this: celebrating 50 illustrious years in showbiz and still effortlessly doing the splits on stage!? Join Liz and Michelle as they sit down with the legendary Bonnie Langford on the Two Women Chatting Podcast. From her recent role in 'Stephen Sondheim's Old Friends' to her return to the Tardis in the new Doctor Who series, Bonnie Langford shares her insights on staying vibrant and embracing new opportunities in midlife.Key Insights:🎙️ Escapism Through Work: Bonnie discusses how acting serves as an escape from reality and the reason she continues to strive in her craft, holdi...
2024-03-1936 min
Two Women ChattingInspiring Inclusion: International Women's Day SpecialJoin Liz and Michelle for an extraordinary episode of Two Women Chatting, celebrating the spirit of International Women's Day at Wentworth Club. This special compilation brings you the highlights from the event where women from all walks of life gathered to champion inclusion and solidarity.Key Insights:🎙️Demanding a Seat at the Table: Guests discuss how they are done asking for permission and tackle issues such as fair access to healthcare, equal pay, and not relying on ‘allies’ to get the job done. 'No, you don't get today too!' - Jamie Klinger....
2024-03-1334 min
Two Women ChattingJaney McGill | It's Never Too Late For AdventureJoin Michelle and Liz for a riveting conversation with Janey McGill as she shares her extraordinary experience leading an expedition with two Omani women across the Empty Quarter, the world's largest sand desert. Janey reflects on the challenges faced, personal growth attained, and the bonds forged with her team. Through her journey, she overcame imposter syndrome, emphasised the importance of setting personal goals, and shattered societal expectations. Janey's film, "Arrowhead," captures the expedition's essence, promoting unity and breaking stereotypes. The conversation also explores the significance of appreciating surroundings, taking breaks, and prioritising self-care for overall well-being.
2024-03-0538 min
Two Women ChattingEleanor Mills | Midlife QueenagersEver wondered what it means to be a Queenager? Is midlife truly a time for rediscovery and empowerment? Join Michelle and Liz in conversation with Eleanor Mills, the founder of Noon, an online community dedicated to empowering women in midlife. In this episode, they delve into the unique challenges and triumphs faced by women over 50, exploring the need for a fresh narrative and media representation. 👑 What is a Queenager?Eleanor Mills defines a Queenager as a woman in her midlife who embraces her wisdom, experience, and power. It's a term that chall...
2024-02-2751 min
Two Women ChattingBA Paris | A New Chapter in MidlifeEver found yourself wanting to start a new chapter in midlife? Have you got a book in you? Join Liz and Michelle in an eye-opening conversation with the incredible B.A. Paris, bestselling author of psychological thrillers, ‘Behind Closed Doors’ and ‘The Guest’ as she takes us through her inspiring journey of transitioning to a successful writing career in her 50s.Key Insights:🎙️ Reinventing Midlife: "It's never too late to pursue your passion. Midlife can be the perfect time for a fulfilling career change and self-discovery."🎙️ The Publishing Journey: "Finding an agent and gettin...
2024-02-2032 min
Two Women ChattingKate Moyle | Midlife SexlifeEver wondered how to redefine intimacy and maintain a satisfying sex life in midlife? Join Liz and Michelle as they dive into the complexities of midlife sex with the brilliant Kate Moyle, a leading expert in psychosexual therapy. Together, they unravel the intricacies of sex beyond intercourse, the importance of communication and fun in long-term relationships, and navigating changes in desire and intimacy. Michelle, Liz, and Kate explore body confidence, managing menopause, using sex toys, and addressing issues like erectile dysfunction.Key Insights:🎙️ Beyond the Basics: "Forget the old-school view of sex—it's more th...
2024-02-1343 min
Two Women ChattingNeens and dB | Midlife Rants and Big PantsJoin Michelle and Liz in a spirited conversation with Neens and dB from Rants and Big Pants, a dynamic space advocating for the representation and empowerment of midlife women. In this episode, they explore the origins of Rants and Big Pants, the impact of the menopause conversation, and the importance of normalising menopause experiences.Key Insights:🎙️ Creating Rants and Big Pants: "Neens and dB share the inspiration behind Rants and Big Pants, a platform challenging stereotypes and advocating for midlife women. It's a space where authenticity and representation matter."🎙️ Menopause Conversations: "Discover t...
2024-02-0639 min
Two Women ChattingRosie Nixon | Say Hello to Kindness!Join Liz and Michelle for a captivating conversation with Rosie Nixon, the illustrious editor at large of Hello Magazine, as she delves into the transformative power of kindness and its profound impact on mental health. In this illuminating episode, Rosie shares her inspiring journey advocating for kindness through the groundbreaking campaign she spearheaded at Hello! Magazine. Tune in as she emphasizes the crucial need to introduce a 'kindness quota' (KQ) and incorporate kindness teachings within school curriculums, shedding light on the profound benefits kindness brings to personal well-being.Key Insights:🎙️ The Healing Force of Ki...
2024-01-2332 min
Two Women ChattingMichelle Elman | People Pleasing & Setting BoundariesEver found yourself wondering where the line between 'you and me' truly lies? Is a people-pleaser just another word for being ‘nice’? Join Liz and Michelle as they unravel the intricate world of boundaries, opinions, and self-worth in mid-life with the incredible Michelle Elman, a renowned life coach and author. Michelle delves deep into the art of setting boundaries, challenging the belief that self-worth hinges on others' opinions, and revealing the power of embracing discomfort for personal growth.Key Insights:🎙️ The Self-Esteem & People Pleasing: "Even as a people pleaser, remember, not everyon...
2024-01-1641 min
Two Women ChattingJane Michell | The Obesity Crisis - What can we do about it?Join Liz and Michelle in an eye-opening discussion with Jane Michell, the visionary founder of Jane Plan, as she sheds light on the alarming reality of obesity and the urgent need for systemic intervention and education. Jane dives deep into the critical understanding of BMI, highlighting the staggering health repercussions of obesity in the UK and explores the personal responsibilities and societal influences contributing to weight gain.Key Insights:🎙️ Food Triggers Everywhere: "Our environment bombards us with food triggers, while our biology remains tuned for scarcity, contributing to our constant desire to eat.”
2024-01-0943 min
Two Women Chatting🎄 Episode: De-stressing the Festive Season with Hannah Bartlett from Jolly FestiveBack by popular demand, Liz and Michelle invite you to a merry conversation with the incredible Hannah Bartlett, the festive maestro from Jolly Festive! In this delightful episode, they dive into the joys of celebrating Christmas in midlife, providing insights and ideas of how to manage all aspects of the holiday, without the overwhelm. Discover the art of making the holiday season a time of joy, ease, and delight; from laying-low on the sugar highs to opting for eco-friendly options without losing an ounce of sparkle.Key Insights:🎙️ Festive Organization: “Is a Christmas spreadsheet too muc...
2023-12-0533 minTwo Women ChattingLaura Hamilton | Travel InspirationLaura Hamilton of A Place in the Sun joins Liz and Michelle to dish out travel inspiration. The bubbly TV host shares amazing anecdotes from her travels around the globe, tips on how to plan an affordable getaway, and key things to consider before buying a vacation home overseas. You'll be dreaming of far off destinations after tuning into this fun, upbeat episode full of wanderlust! She also shares details of a new spin-off Channel 4 show. A Place in the Sun, What Happened Next will revisit families and couples as far back as 2007 who took the plunge and bought a...
2023-11-2141 minTwo Women ChattingTracey Davies | From Midlife Mum to Stand up ComedianLiz and Michelle chat with Tracey Davies, a 50-year-old travel writer and journalist who recently stepped waaay outside her comfort zone to become a stand-up comedian. Tracey shares her journey from signing up for a beginners' comedy course to performing her first open mic night. She opens up about handling hecklers, bombing on stage and finding a supportive community on the comedy circuit. Tracey offers advice for anyone looking to be brave and try something completely new in midlife and her story shows it's never too late to follow a passion or goal.KEY TAKEAWAYSTurning 50...
2023-11-1435 minTwo Women ChattingEmma Skeates | Menopausal MayhemJoin Liz and Michelle as they chat with menopause advocate Emma Skeates about embracing the chaos of midlife. Emma shares her journey through a messy divorce and early surgical menopause while raising young children. She details how keeping her sense of humour helped her mental health and inspired her popular blog and book “Confessions of a Menopausal Mayhem Mother.” She recounts mortifying yet relatable stories and discusses how finding laughter in adversity led to a movie deal for her book. KEY TAKEAWAYS Emma started blogging to maintain her mental health after a difficult divorce and early surgic...
2023-11-0746 minTwo Women ChattingMichelle Griffith Robinson | The Sandwich Generation and Midlife CaringLiz and Michelle chat with Olympian triple jumper turned motivational speaker Michelle Robinson about caring for ageing parents while juggling our own midlife changes. Michelle shares her emotional journey caring for her vivacious but ailing mother, from cancer to losing mobility. She offers insight on managing expectations, reframing how we talk about "caring", being honest about needing support and striving for small progress each day. Michelle reminds us that together we are stronger, and that while life is not perfect, we can take small steps to cut ourselves some slack!KEY TAKEAWAYS Reframe "caring for" ageing...
2023-10-2439 minTwo Women ChattingAlice Beer | Midlife Financial PlanningLiz and Michelle tackle the taboo topic of preparing for the worst, should you find yourself suddenly single through divorce or the death of a partner. They chat with consumer journalist and ITV This Morning's Consumer Editor, Alice Beer, about the uncomfortable but necessary conversations couples should have regarding wills, finances, accounts and more. Alice provides tons of practical advice on ensuring you and your family are looked after, from making a list of all accounts to having a capable friend by your side as you make those difficult calls. This episode will get you motivated to empower yourself...
2023-10-1049 minTwo Women ChattingLouise Minchin | Empty Nest Syndrome and Being Fearless in MidlifeLiz and Michelle chat to tv presenter and author Louise Minchin about dealing with empty nest syndrome. Louise shares her own emotional journey as both her daughters left home for university, including the grief she felt at their absence. She explains how she coped by filling her time with new challenges, becoming an endurance athlete and author. Louise talks about pushing herself out of her comfort zone by swimming through shark infested waters to Alcatraz, ice diving, and other adventures with ordinary women doing extraordinary things that she chronicles in her book Fearless. She shares the...
2023-09-2637 minTwo Women ChattingSuzanne Baum | Fifty at 50In this 50th episode celebration, Liz and Michelle chat about turning 50 themselves and the idea of making a 50 at 50 list. They are then joined by celebrity journalist Suzanne Baum who shares some of her own 50 at 50 list, including facing her fears of heights. Suzanne opens up about her career interviewing huge names like David Beckham and Amanda Holden, and how she has used her platform for important issues like the Nicola Bulley case. She gives advice to aspiring journalists and talks about embarrassing moments, dream interviewees, and how certain hard-hitting stories have affected her. An insightful look into the...
2023-09-1943 min
Two Women ChattingAnd Just Like That - We're Back with Season 5!Season 5 of Two Women Chatting is almost upon us, where Liz and Michelle will continue to provide great insights into important topics for women, gathering advice and knowledge from some incredible guests, revealing how you can redefine and rediscover yourself in your mid-life!Don’t forget to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and if you love the content, please leave a review and share the podcast with friends!KEY TOPICS FOR SEASON 5Heart Attacks in WomenFertility Journey of our Adult KidsLoneliness in Midlife Female financial empowermentOptimising your health and sleepMidlife datingMidlife ConfidenceIf...
2023-08-2904 minTwo Women ChattingMichelle Feeney | Scent of a (Midlife) WomanLiz and Michelle are joined by Floral’s Street CEO and founder Michelle Feeney. Michelle has an impressive resume, including growing MAC Cosmetics into the world's biggest beauty brand.Smell is your most powerful sense and, in this episode, they discuss the importance of scent in our everyday lives including our memories, emotions and boosting our confidence. Michelle also talks about why she is passionate about sustainability in the beauty industry, her reasons for founding Floral Street and why midlife is the perfect time to reinvent yourself through your fragrance.KEY TAKEAWAYSThe current yo...
2023-08-0132 minTwo Women ChattingAnthea Turner | How to Survive DivorceHow to Age well- our last chat with Anthea Turner!Liz and Michelle are joined by presenter Anthea Turner to talk about divorce, including Anthea’s own, very public personal experience. They discuss how to deal with the rejection that comes with divorce and to put children at the forefront of every decision. Anthea suggests 'control your mouth' and never send toxic messages or emails. Divorce is painful but there is a long time after when you may be attending birthdays, graduations and weddings when you need to be in the same place at the same time...
2023-07-1849 minTwo Women ChattingJudy Murray | A Novel IdeaIt’s grass court season and Liz and Michelle are excited for Wimbledon! In this episode, they are joined by tennis powerhouse Judy Murray to talk about her career reinvention as a fiction writer.Judy, (mum to champions Sir Andy Murray and Jamie Murray) has built an incredible career around tennis coaching and reimagined herself countless times including competing on Strictly Come dancing with Anton du Beke, appearing on Masterchef and winning the Slingsby Golf Academy to compete in the Pro-Am at the PGA Tour.Judy chats about women's safeguarding and inappropriate coach/student relationships in...
2023-07-0439 min
One QuestionSTRENGTH IN VULNERABILITY with Kane FordIf there was one thing you think society should talk more about, what would it be?“The strength you can feel through vulnerability- especially the strength men can feel embracing vulnerability (I definitely think men should talk more about this)”___________Today we meet a beautiful, energetic being called Kane Ford. He’s the founder of Get Outside Australia and has a passion for travelling and the outdoors. Kane understands what it takes to succeed in the corporate world but he learned the hard way the need for real w...
2023-05-3027 minTwo Women ChattingTWC | Guest ReflectionsLiz and Michelle have recently spent some time listening to the last year of episodes of Two Women Chatting in preparation for the British Podcast Awards! They both really enjoyed going down memory lane, relearning some fantastic advice and tips from many guests and laughing along the way. They thought it would be great to share a few of their favourite topics all over again. So, whether you’re new here or a seasoned listener, dive in for some of the best bits of Two Women Chatting!TOP 5 EPISODES Toni Hargis | Standing Up to Sexism Liz and...
2023-05-2323 minTwo Women ChattingClaire Sweeney | EurovisionLiz and Michelle are joined by singer, actor, television personality and Eurovision host Claire Sweeney. They chat about Claire’s upcoming role in Coronation Street and of course all things Eurovision including revealing what the ‘alternative scouse commentary is all about and why they think this year the UK might win!KEY TAKEAWAYS There have been some great acts in Eurovision across the years who remain well known today, Cliff Richard, Sandy Shaw and Lulu to name a few!Eurovision being hosted in the UK this year means a lot more of us will probably be wa...
2023-05-0920 minTwo Women ChattingCBD | What's It All About?These days you can barely walk down a high street or flick a magazine without coming across CBD stories and products. It´s a flood of information that is actually quite confusing and overwhelming. Today, with the expert help of Sam Day and Lorraine Clark, the co-founders of HapiHemp, Liz and Michelle discuss some of the most important questions. Including, what exactly CBD is and whether it is even legal in the UK. As well as the various ways you can take it and how all four of them have benefited from using a range of CBD pr...
2023-04-1827 minTwo Women ChattingMidlife Montage: Judi Dench, Jenny Seagrove, and Finty WilliamsTo create this star-studded midlife montage episode, Michelle went to meet three fabulous women – Dame Judi Dench, her actress daughter Finty Williams and star of screen and stage, Jenny Seagrove. In the first of a series of montages to celebrate being a midlife or older woman, Michelle asked them all what was the best thing about life in our second spring.Liz and Michelle chat about Jenny Seagrove's charity Mane Chance Sanctuary that rescues and rehabilitates horses with the community, Dame Judi's tik-tok star grandson, Sam William, dancing with Louis Theroux, Skyfall filming anecdotes and how Judy Den...
2023-03-2107 minTwo Women ChattingAlice Hart-Davis | TweakmentsOn this episode, Liz and Michelle are joined by successful author and award-winning journalist, Alice Hart-Davis.The world is changing fast and having cosmetic work ‘done’ is more common and normalised than ever, especially among celebrities. What are ‘tweakments’, why do we often feel the need to alter ourselves as we age and if you’re considering it what do you need to know? Alice, Liz and Michelle discuss all these questions and more in an open conversation all about tweakments, including Alice’s own knowledge and her expert guide: ‘The Tweakments Guide’KEY TAKEAWAYS Tw...
2023-03-1447 minTwo Women ChattingRosie Green | How to Heal a Broken HeartAlmost everyone has suffered from a broken heart in their lifetime... from that crushing first love loss to longer more mature relationships but rejection during midlife when a relationship breaks down after decades is so devastating with kids, houses, bank accounts, longstanding friends and family all adding to the complexity of a couple uncoupling whether that's by choice or, sadly, not.Liz and Michelle are joined in this episode by Rosie Green, an awarding winning journalist and beauty editor who writes a weekly column in The Mail On Sunday, is a relationships expert on ITV’s This...
2023-02-2836 minTwo Women ChattingAngie Best | Second SpringThis week Liz and Michelle are joined by the irrepressible Angie Best. an alternative health expert and founder of Absolute Best. Angie was a former model who married the legendary English footballer, George Best, with whom she had her son Calum. a huge reality star and TV personality. Angie has worked for decades with body health and confidence: experience that she tapped into to create the Absolute Best CBD oil and skincare range. They chat to her about the joys of a 'second spring' and enjoying life as a mature woman.KEY TAKEAWAYS CBD has...
2023-02-2127 minTwo Women ChattingMarianne Jones | Midlife BurnoutLiz and Michelle are joined in this episode by Marianne Jones, to discuss why so many women burn out during midlife, which is exactly what happened to Marianne. She is an award-winning editor, writer, podcaster, and brand & content director who works with the nation’s biggest newspapers and magazines. About 18 months ago, Marianne ended up in A&E and was told she needed to take a significant period off work to recover from burnout. It was tough to do, but the change resulted in a more balanced and positive way of living and has created new opportunities.Mi...
2023-02-1432 minTwo Women ChattingMelinda Messenger | A Bit of A TrekLiz and Michelle are joined in this episode by Melinda Messenger, mum of three adult children who is a former Page Three girl and TV presenter. In 2015 she began practising as a qualified psychotherapist. In early April, with The Adventure Boutique, she is taking part in a trek to support the Liang Tang region of Nepal, which was devastated by an earthquake in 2015. And It’s not too late for you to join her!Melinda provides an insight into what it was like to be a Page Three glamour model, including how her view about doing that ty...
2023-02-0736 minTwo Women ChattingAlexandra Potter | Confessions of a 40-something novelistImagine your best selling novel being transformed into a huge tv series in the USA. That's what happened to Alexandra Potter, author of Confessions of a Forty-Something F-Up! Her brilliantly funny inter-generational book was optioned by Disney and will premiere on Disney+ and ABC on 7 February (a month or two later in the UK) renamed 'Not Dead Yet'.Alexandra joins Liz and Michelle to explain how realising that her life, and those of her friends, were nothing like the perfect lives being conveyed on social media inspired her to write her latest novel. This fun episode provides an...
2023-01-3129 minTwo Women ChattingHelen Wills | Teenage KicksMichelle and Liz are joined in this episode by Helen Wills who is the author behind the Actually Mummy website and the host of the Teenage Kicks podcast. A show that is all about navigating teen-related parenting issues. Covering subjects that other blogs, forums, and podcasts tend not to cover. Including self-harm, eating disorders, body image, schizophrenia, sexism, avoiding dating dangers, and much more.During this three women chatting, (2 women plus a Helen) episode, they discuss why she started the podcast, how it works and how it can help. As well as talking about some of the...
2023-01-2422 minTwo Women ChattingGia Mills | Make Up in MidlifeFor this episode, Michelle and Liz are joined by Gia Mills, a celebrity make-up artist and the co-founder of Skin in Motion. Products that are designed specifically for menopausal women and athletes. Makeup that stays on regardless of how hot you get. The list of people who use her Skin In Motion products includes Andy Murray, Jeremy Paxman, Poppy and Cara Delavigne, Nadine Baggot, Lisa Faulkner, Sienna Miller, and Natalie Imbruglia. Until the end of January, Two Women Chatting listeners can get 20% off all their products with code TWC20.Gia shares the night-time skincare routine she recommends...
2023-01-1725 minTwo Women ChattingJo Elvin | What's Fame Got To Do With ItMichelle and Liz are joined in this episode by award-winning editor and presenter, Jo Elvin, who is the epitome of what Two Women Chatting represents. Earlier this year Jo resigned from her job as editor of the Mail on Sunday’s YOU magazine after four years at the helm, citing a midlife crisis, having bought a lot of crazy coloured jumpsuits and becoming an avid fan of Korean pop boy bands!But rather than put her feet up, Jo has taken the helm of the Children With Cancer UK charity, continued hosting the Daily Mail Plu...
2023-01-1024 minTwo Women ChattingJolly Festive | Adult Kids at ChristmasIn their last podcast of 2022, Michelle and Liz sit down to chat about getting ready for the festive season, a really touristy Christmas market in Berlin, advent calendars, cocktails, avoiding the snooze after lunch, and all things Christmassy. They also talk to Hannah Bartlett, one half of the sister-created company Jolly Festive, who lives and breathes Christmas 365 days a year. She shares some fantastic ways to keep the cost down without having to do without. Including, making your festive gear work harder, reverse advent calendars, modern parlor games, alternative present ideas, Christmas cushions in jumpers, and much, much more.
2022-12-1326 minTwo Women ChattingLinda Magistris | Good GriefGrief comes to all of us at one stage or another and so Liz and Michelle wanted to tackle the subject head-on with the CEO and Founder of The Good Grief Trust, Linda Magistris.Join them as they discuss everything from the lack of support for bereaved families to dealing with both the shorter and longer-term impact of losing someone close to you. They also explore the reasons why death is such a taboo subject in the modern world and why it needs to change.KEY TAKEAWAYS There is a lack of centralised s...
2022-12-0629 minTwo Women ChattingJaney Lee Grace | Cheers to SobrietyLiz and Michelle are joined in this episode by Janey Lee Grace, Kate Baily and Mandy Manners to discuss sobriety. Both Liz and Michelle are feeling sober curious, to the point where Liz is already drinking a lot less. Both of their guests became sober years ago and today help others to do the same.They talk about the impact stopping drinking has, handling FOMO and getting the buzz without the booze. How sobriety reduces the impact menopause has on our health, confidence and our ability to sleep. They also offer tips on going sober when your...
2022-11-2948 minTwo Women ChattingPet Bereavement | All Dogs Go To HeavenOn this episode, Liz and Michelle chat about the grief of losing podcast ‘mascot’ Maisie, Michelle’s 14-year-old rescue dog.As Maisie’s health deteriorated, Michelle had to make the tough decision to let her go. They talk about coming to that decision and how Michelle is handling pet bereavement. Liz and Michelle also discuss how to tell your adult kids about the loss, when they live away from home.For Michelle, coping has been all about keeping busy and distracted, moving furniture and plants to disguise the empty space, clearing out Maisie’s drawer and washin...
2022-11-2215 minTwo Women ChattingTWC Snacksize - TokyoFor this episode, Liz and Michelle chat remotely. Michelle is off on her empty nest travels again to Tokyo. Meanwhile Maisie, her dog, runs rings around her dog sitter, at home. Despite not being a fan of Japanese food, Michelle steps out of her comfort zone and takes a food tour that includes yakitori, stand up sushi and more. Followed by a painful Peaks of Slimness massage, which was like getting a massage from Rod Hull and Emu! In the meantime, Liz has visited the Spirit of Christmas fair in London, coming back with a lovely gift id...
2022-11-1518 minTwo Women ChattingJasmine Birtles | Cash Down the Back of the SofaMichelle and Liz are joined in this episode by guest ‘Miss Moneysaver’ Jasmine Birtles, a Daily Mail columnist, author, money expert and director of not one but three companies! Jasmine is also the founder and editor of one of the best-known money-making websites MoneyMagpie.com; the go-to site for information and advice on making and saving money day-to-day.Jasmine, Michelle and Liz talk about a variety of unique and creative ways you can make money in the current economic crisis, offering their own experiences and advice. Jasmine particularly focuses on sharing ways you can earn cash with litt...
2022-11-0827 minTwo Women ChattingTWC Snacksize - We've gone weekly!Exciting times ahead as Liz and Michelle begin podcasting weekly! Join them on the sofa with a cuppa talking about parents weekend, bagels in Central Park, Funny Girl on Broadway, mince pies in October, a trip to the Orkneys, Michelle's 'roadkill bingo', Gator-nado, not apple sauce and a made bed being a haven amongst chaos. For great resources, blogs and useful info for mid-lifers, check out our website at www.twowomenchatting.com. We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com - we read everything. If you like what you hear please f...
2022-11-0114 minTwo Women ChattingMenopause | part 2In part 2 of our Menopause series we chat to incredible women from the Menopause Mandate - Alice Smellie, Laura Biggs, Lisa Snowden and Lavina Mehta MBE.However it affects you (whether you are the menopausal woman or the partner or child of one!), we can probably all agree that choice, affordability of & access to HRT plus education can make it better and more positive. We are not advocating any one approach but absolutely support raising awareness and breaking down the taboos.The Menopause Mandate is a group of women from all walks of life who...
2022-10-1842 minTwo Women ChattingMeningitis | What You Need To KnowOn this bonus episode, we chat to Michelle Bresnahan, founder of A Life for Cure, created in memory of her son Ryan Bresnahan. It's so important that we talk about the symptoms of meningitis B, the vaccines available (spoiler alert: they are not the meningitis vaccines you get at school - you need to PAY for them to protect your kids from this strain at college) and raise awareness within our school and parent communities.You'll find accompanying blogs and resources on our website www.twowomenchatting.com as well as handy pdfs you can add to your...
2022-10-0517 minTwo Women ChattingMenopause | Part 1Is your head spinning on the topic of menopause? Thank goodness we have incredible women like the members of the Menopause Mandate who are helping to distil all the information in one place - educating, campaigning, raising awareness and fighting for the rights of menopausal women.Join us as we chat to Carolyn Harris MP, health journalist Alice Smellie and CEO of Intuitive Events Laura Biggs who, along with Mariella Fostrup, set up the Menopause Mandate earlier this year. They've already been heard in the Houses of Parliament and their strength (and members are growing)....
2022-10-0444 minTwo Women ChattingJenni Falconer | Collagen to 5KOn this episode we explore the benefits of collagen in midlife, how to start running at any age, the joy of golf and self care. We're joined by Jenni Falconer, Smooth FM breakfast show presenter, host of RunPod and co-founder of Kollo Health. Did you know collagen can help joint aches as an anti inflammatory, can delay greying hair (& losing hair), help weight loss, reduce cellulite, reduce fine lines, improve bone density, increase muscle mass, help repair leaky gut, protects heart and cardiovascular health and helps reduce blood pressure. That's a pretty impressive resume for a...
2022-09-2148 minTwo Women ChattingBack after the breakWe are SO excited to be back after the summer vacation for our second season and we’ve got some fabulous topics and guests to share with you! First off the block is our chat with Jenni Falconer, Smooth FM presenter, podcast host of Runpod and co-founder of Kollo Health. Did you know how great marine collagen is for you in midlife? We'll be talking about this during our first episode in mid September - out on Tuesday 20 September whilst we respect the Queen's state funeral and national mourning period. Top of the...
2022-09-1307 minTwo Women ChattingEmpty Nest Part 2 | After They LeaveWelcome to Part 2 of our popular Empty Nest series! Now ranked in the top 25 empty nest podcasts globally—and #1 in the UK—this episode dives deep into life after your kids leave home. That quiet house, the less laundry, the unexpected gap—how do you cope, reconnect, and create a fulfilling new chapter?Hosts Liz and Michelle chat with a panel of experts and empty nesters offering honest advice and diverse perspectives. Celia Dodd, author of The Empty Nest, shares insights on navigating this transition. Dr Dominique Thompson, GP and mental health expert, offers practical tips for wellbe...
2022-08-2920 minTwo Women ChattingEmpty Nest Part 1 | Before They GoThe empty nest phase is a huge transition — full of emotions, challenges, and new opportunities. Whether you’re bracing yourself for your child leaving for university or looking forward to newfound freedom, this bonus episode offers guidance and support to help you prepare before they go.Join hosts Liz and Michelle as they speak with experts and parents who’ve been through it, sharing honest advice for navigating this big change. Dr Dominique Thompson, award-winning GP and mental health expert, offers insights into managing this emotional shift. Victoria Bagnall, co-founder of Connections in Mind, talks about steppi...
2022-08-1546 minTwo Women ChattingRoxy & Gay Longworth | Coercion, Consent and Consequences⚠️ Content warning: this episode contains discussion of mental health, self-harm and coercion that may be triggering for some listeners.Have you heard of sextortion? It’s the shocking and growing online crime where images or videos are used to manipulate, threaten or blackmail — often targeting teenagers.In this deeply moving episode, we’re joined by Roxy and Gay Longworth, co-authors of When You Lose It — a powerful, dual-perspective memoir detailing Roxy’s experience being coerced into sending explicit images at just 13, and the devastating mental health spiral that followed.We talk candidly about...
2022-07-1845 minTwo Women ChattingLyndsey Simpson | Reinvent Your Career After 50Feel stuck in a job that doesn’t spark joy? Wondering if it’s too late to start over? Think again.This week, Liz and Michelle are joined by Lyndsey Simpson, founder of 55/Redefined, the UK’s boldest champion for over-50s career reinvention. If you've been wondering whether it’s time to pivot, restart, or finally follow that dream—you’ll want to hear this. Lyndsey shares powerful advice about building a fulfilling second (or third!) act, challenging outdated ideas about retirement, and showing how the over-50s are the untapped superpower of the workforce. Whether you’re reent...
2022-06-2746 minTwo Women ChattingClarissa Drysdale Anderson | Modern Slavery Exposed: What You Must KnowLiz and Michelle speak with Clarissa Drysdale Anderson, Chair of You Can Free Us Foundation, about the harrowing reality of modern slavery affecting over 40 million people globally. Motivated by a personal incident involving Michelle’s daughter, they explore rescue, advocacy, and rehabilitation efforts—including support for women and children fleeing Ukraine. Learn what everyday steps you can take to safeguard your community, raise awareness, and support survivors—even locally. Also hear about Michelle’s encounter with BAFTA-winning documentarian Kate Blewett, whose Slavery – A Global Investigation offered additional perspective on the issue.Key Topics:🎙️ Global modern slavery...
2022-06-011h 07Two Women ChattingVictoria Bagnall | Midlife ADHD or Just Menopause Brain Fog?Feel forgetful, distracted or mentally overloaded in midlife? It might not just be menopause. In this episode, Liz and Michelle talk to executive functioning expert Victoria Bagnall, who explains why so many women are misdiagnosed—or completely missed—when it comes to ADHD. Victoria shares why symptoms often show up (or worsen) during perimenopause, the role of trauma and genetics, and how simple strategies—like rest, connection and reframing—can transform day-to-day life. This conversation is full of eye-openers, practical tips, and a reassuring message: you’re not alone, and there is support. Expect insight into navigating the messy overlap be...
2022-04-2845 minTwo Women ChattingAnthea Turner | How to Age Well: Expert Secrets RevealedAnthea Turner—TV icon and style legend—shares her honest, expert-backed secrets to aging well in this inspiring episode. From her iconic hairstyles to daring reality TV adventures, Anthea embodies confidence and vitality at 61. Drawing on insights from top health, beauty, and style experts, her book How to Age Well: The Secrets offers practical advice to boost your health, wellbeing, and confidence at any age. Join Liz and Michelle as they chat with Anthea about embracing aging with grace, staying fabulous, and living your best midlife life. Perfect for anyone wanting to feel radiant and empowered no matter their deca...
2022-04-1243 minTwo Women ChattingJo Martin | Is retirement bad for your health?Jo Martin, mental health consultant and MHFA instructor, joins Liz and Michelle to reveal the surprising health risks some face when retiring, including why executives can suffer catastrophic events after leaving work. Drawing on her vast global experience in mental health, Jo shares expert tips on how to prepare for retirement years ahead by building hobbies, social connections, and routines that support lasting wellbeing. If you or your partner are approaching retirement, this episode offers vital advice to help you transition smoothly into a fulfilling and healthy new chapter.Key Topics:🎙️ Retirement health risks and w...
2022-03-1815 minTwo Women ChattingJenny Seagrove | Hollywood to HorsesJenny Seagrove, renowned actress and founder of Mane Chance Sanctuary, shares her inspiring journey from Hollywood to creating a safe haven for rescued horses. In this episode, she reveals how her deep connection with horses led to a powerful mission of healing and animal welfare. Liz and Michelle explore the unique bond between humans and horses, the sanctuary’s impact, and how midlife can be a time of purpose and transformation. Perfect for animal lovers and anyone seeking midlife inspiration, this episode offers heartfelt stories and practical insights into sanctuary life and finding meaning beyond the spotlight....
2022-03-0430 minTwo Women ChattingLiz & Michelle | Carenting: The Sandwich Generation StruggleLiz and Michelle welcome Anne Bangs and Doreen Hall from TLC to explore the unique challenges of “carenting”—the balancing act of caring for aging parents while supporting adult children launching into independence. This episode is essential listening for the sandwich generation navigating midlife’s emotional, practical, and financial demands. Discover expert advice on managing stress, setting boundaries, and creating harmony as you juggle these overlapping caregiving roles. Whether you’re helping parents age in place or supporting kids through university, this honest, relatable conversation offers strategies to care for others without losing yourself. Tune in for compassionate insights, real stori...
2022-02-1236 minTwo Women ChattingLiz & Michelle | Lazy Weight Loss Strategies for Midlife SuccessJoin Liz and Michelle as they explore easy, realistic weight loss strategies for women over 50. No fad diets—just practical tips, honest stories, and mindset shifts to help you feel your best during midlife. Perfect for empty nesters navigating changing bodies, hormones, and busy lives with kindness and humor. Expect conversations about weight loss without burnout — gentle habits that stick; navigating hormonal changes & metabolism shifts in midlife; embracing self-compassion over perfection in your health journey; how to enjoy food and life without guilt or deprivation; and tips for busy women balancing family, work, and self-care. Plus, Liz and Michelle spri...
2022-01-1029 minTwo Women Chatting Liz & Michelle | The Festive Season Reimagined with Grown-Up KidsLiz and Michelle dive into a refreshing take on the festive season in this midlife episode. With adult children at home (or visiting), they explore how holidays evolve beyond childhood traditions—after all, life doesn’t stop at 50! From redefining expectations and saying no to overwhelming hosting, to finding joy in new rituals and carving out meaningful holiday moments, this episode offers honest, relatable chat full of laughter, real-life anecdotes, and ideas for keeping family spirits bright when everyone’s grown.Expect conversation about letting go of perfection, reimagining traditions, balancing family dynamics, and the emotional shifts...
2021-12-1331 minTwo Women ChattingDr Dominique Thompson | Empty Nest Syndrome & Redefining Motherhood in MidlifeIn this heartfelt and insightful episode, Michelle and Liz chat with Dr Dominique Thompson, award-winning GP, author, and expert in young people's mental health, to explore the emotional journey of empty nest syndrome and the complex transitions facing parents—especially mothers—as children leave home. Together, they unpack the grief, guilt, freedom, and identity shifts that come with midlife parenting, the rise of “boomerang kids,” and how women can reconnect with their sense of purpose once their parenting role evolves. It’s a warm, wise, and often funny conversation about one of the most emotionally charged stages of midlife.K...
2021-11-1928 minTwo Women ChattingLiz & Michelle | Redefining Midlife: The Real Talk You Didn’t Know You NeededIn the very first episode of Two Women Chatting, hosts Liz and Michelle kick off their midlife mission with warmth, wit, and real talk. As two friends navigating life after 50, they share their own experiences of empty nesting, menopause, career reinvention, and everything in between. Whether it’s the shock of your kids leaving home (only to return with laundry), changing bodies, evolving relationships, or figuring out who you are now — this episode sets the tone for an honest, insightful, and often hilarious podcast sofa chat that invites you to feel seen and supported.They’ll also introd...
2021-11-0526 min