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"Modern Relationships"Triggered to Transformed with Art of Accomplishment's Joe Hudson and Tara HowleyThis week, Erik sits down with Joe Hudson and Tara Howley, the extraordinary couple behind Art of Accomplishment, whose coaching has helped CEOs like Sam Altman. They share their journey from a toxic relationship to a deeply connected partnership, offering personal stories, practical strategies, and insights on how self-growth, therapy, and commitment to transformation can foster resilient, loving relationships.Modern Relationships is a podcast from Turpentine. Learn more: www.turpentine.co--SPONSOR: Relationship HeroIt’s an open secret in Silicon Valley that people are using relationship coaches. Sign up for...2025-05-0900 min
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Nathan Baschez is the cofounder and CEO of Lex, an AI word-processor. He also cofounded Every, was the first employee at Substack AND co-created Product Hunt. Suffice to say, Nathan knows a thing or two about building on the internet. He joins the show to discuss how AI is changing writing, why it’s time to rethink the article, the rise of solo founders and MUCH more. ...2025-04-2700 min
Podcast Notes Playlist: BusinessNathan Baschez — On AI Writing, Thought Design & Solo Foundership (EP.265)Infinite Loops
Key Takeaways AI is not thinking-as-a-service but collaboration-as-a-service: The wrong way to approach AI is to sit back and see what it comes up with; the right way is to tinker with it and poke it in different ways so that novel patterns emergeBanning AI in schools is like stopping humans from using fire because they might burn themselvesAfter discovering how to use fire, we created fire departments, firemen, and fire exits; the same thing will happen with AI“AI is a mirror, not a mold.” – Jim O’Shaughnessy Creation is fundamentally about choices: The choice...2025-04-271h 31Podcast Notes Playlist: StartupNathan Baschez — On AI Writing, Thought Design & Solo Foundership (EP.265)Infinite Loops
Key Takeaways AI is not thinking-as-a-service but collaboration-as-a-service: The wrong way to approach AI is to sit back and see what it comes up with; the right way is to tinker with it and poke it in different ways so that novel patterns emergeBanning AI in schools is like stopping humans from using fire because they might burn themselvesAfter discovering how to use fire, we created fire departments, firemen, and fire exits; the same thing will happen with AI“AI is a mirror, not a mold.” – Jim O’Shaughnessy Creation is fundamentally about choices: The choice...2025-04-271h 31Infinite LoopsNathan Baschez — On AI Writing, Thought Design & Solo Foundership (EP.265)Nathan Baschez is the cofounder and CEO of Lex, an AI word-processor. He also cofounded Every, was the first employee at Substack AND co-created Product Hunt. Suffice to say, Nathan knows a thing or two about building on the internet. He joins the show to discuss how AI is changing writing, why it’s time to rethink the article, the rise of solo founders and MUCH more. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. For the full transcript, episode takeaways, and bucketloads of other goodies designed to make you go...2025-04-241h 31
The Art of AccomplishmentHow to Be a Parent (Without Messing Everything Up) | Joe Hudson and Nathan BaschezWhen Nathan Baschez saw a tweet from Joe Hudson about how he raised his girls—no punishments, no shame—he had to know more. So when Joe invited him onto the podcast to talk parenting, he jumped at the chance.What unfolds is an honest look at parenting in real time. Joe shares how Hand-in-Hand Parenting shaped his family life, how emotional presence trumps perfection, and how parenting became one of his deepest self-development practices.In this episode, they discuss:The link between emotional connection and behaviorWhat it actually means to "stay with" a chil...2025-03-2833 minThe Art of AccomplishmentHow to Be a Parent (Without Messing Everything Up) | Joe Hudson and Nathan BaschezWhen Nathan Baschez saw a tweet from Joe Hudson about how he raised his girls—no punishments, no shame—he had to know more. So when Joe invited him onto the podcast to talk parenting, he jumped at the chance.What unfolds is an honest look at parenting in real time. Joe shares how Hand-in-Hand Parenting shaped his family life, how emotional presence trumps perfection, and how parenting became one of his deepest self-development practices.In this episode, they discuss:The link between emotional connection and behaviorWhat it actually means to "stay with" a chil...2025-03-2833 min
The Animalz Content Marketing PodcastYes, There Is Value in AI & Content: Season Wrap-upIn this season finale, hosts Ty Magnin and Tim Metz reflect on what they've learned from their conversations with seven AI content pioneers. They distill the key themes that emerged, from AI as a writing partner rather than a replacement to the rise of personality-driven marketing, and consider what the next 12 months might bring for content teams adopting AI.The hosts revisit their initial question — "Is there anybody out there creating real value with AI?" — and conclude that yes, there is, though the applications are more nuanced than the hype suggests. They also announce their next seas...2025-03-2721 min
Generative Now | AI Builders on Creating the FutureDan Shipper: The First MultiModal Media CompanyCode is content. Writers build apps. App builders write newsletters. This is Every CEO & Founder Dan Shipper’s vision for the modern media company. Michael Mignano, Partner at Lightspeed, sits down with Dan to talk about building the first multimodal media company, developing viral software like Cora, and cultivating an audience and talent at Every. Check out our episode with Nathan Baschez, Every cofounder and Lex CEOEpisode Chapters(00:00) Introduction(02:54) Dan's Journey into Coding(03:47) Cofounding Firefly(06:53) The Evolution of Every(15:40) Vibe Coding(24:37) The Creation of C...2025-03-131h 03The Animalz Content Marketing PodcastAI as a Personal Trainer for Writers: A Conversation with Nathan Baschez of LexIn this episode, Nathan Baschez offers a refreshing perspective on AI writing tools. He explains we're still at "the very bottom of the S-curve of adoption" for writers embracing AI. Meanwhile, programmers have rapidly integrated these tools into their workflows. This gap represents both challenge and opportunity.Instead of getting stuck in the typical AI debate ("Is it a threat to writers or just a shortcut?"), Nathan has a different take. He argues that neither outright rejection of AI nor complete surrender to it serves writers well. Instead, he shares a compelling framework: think of AI...2025-03-0439 minThe Animalz Content Marketing PodcastAI & Content: Where’s The Value?“Hello... is there anybody out there creating real value with AI?”Welcome to a new season of the Animalz Podcast, where hosts Ty Magnin (CEO) and Tim Metz (Director of Marketing and Innovation) go on a quest to cut through the AI noise and find the real pioneers creating value with AI.In this season introduction, Ty and Tim explain why they've chosen to focus on AI and content — a topic consuming "at least half" of their work-related brain space. While everyone talks about AI, few share what's genuinely working (or spectacularly failing).Lookin...2025-02-2715 min
TechdirtAI As A Tool For Writing, Not A ReplacementA few months ago, Mike wrote about the ways he uses AI tools when writing for Techdirt — not to do any of the actual writing, but to help improve it. The specific tool in question is Lex, a word processor with embedded AI features, and this week Lex founder Nathan Baschez joins Mike on the podcast to talk more about AI as a tool for creative improvement rather than a replacement for creativity.2024-08-1445 min
Generative Now | AI Builders on Creating the FutureNathan Baschez: The New Age of AI Writing ToolsWe’ve all experienced writer’s block at some point in our lives. But thanks to emerging AI-powered tools, writer’s block may soon become a thing of the past.
In this week’s episode of Generative Now, Lightspeed Partner and host Michael Mignano speaks with Nathan Baschez, Founder and CEO of Lex, an AI-assisted writing tool. Nathan discusses Lex's development from a simple alternative to Google Docs to a sophisticated collaboration tool with AI features, as well as the challenges of developing AI-integrated writing software. Michael and Nathan also talk about the future possibilities for AI-driven...2024-07-1847 min
The Undefeated UnderdogsSonia Baschez - Why you need to hire a fractional CMO!👉🏼 About the Guest:Sonia Baschez was the Head of Marketing at Atmos and currently is a a Marketing and PR Advisor at The Council. She is an expert at building and executing marketing strategies for early-stage startups focused on social media, content creation, and email marketing. She has previously worked on the Hillary for America campaign, where she wrote, designed, and launched email programs for 38 states. She has also worked with startups (Makerpad, Winnie, Holloway), authors (Elisabeth Rosenthal MD, Sam Walker, Alexandra Sacks MD), and influencers (Jeanne Pinder, Marlon Peterson, Luz Claudio, Muhammed Idris) to create...2024-04-141h 11
The Undefeated UnderdogsNathan Baschez - How AI is revolutionizing the way you write on the Internet!👉🏼 About the Guest:Nathan Baschez is the founder of Lex, a modern word processor that enables a radically new way to write. He also cofounded Every, a writer collective focused on business. Previously, he was the first employee at Substack, the Head of Product at Gimlet Media, and co-created the original version of Product Hunt.👉🏼 About the Host:Sharath is a founder, creator, and community builder. He is also a serial maker who built and shipped 15+ projects using no-code tools. His SaaS product Shoutout generated $30k ARR, which was sold to a UK-base...2024-02-281h 15
"Media Empires" | The Business of Newsletters, Podcasts, Creators, and Data AcquisitionThe Power of Platforms and AI | Nathan Baschez, Every Inc, LexThis week we’re sharing a conversation with Erik Torenberg and Nathan Baschez , the co-founder of Every Inc. and creator of Lex, an AI-powered writing tool that’s aimed to revolutionize the writing process for writers. The discussion ranges from the nuances and challenges of podcasting, to the impact of AI on content creation, to the business models of various platforms like Substack and YouTube, and much more. This conversation was recorded in early 2023 but still holds numerous insights on the future of digital media and entertainment.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and...2024-02-0639 min
EquityDon't forget to jargon check your AIThis week on Equity, Alex was joined by Nathan Baschez, the CEO and founder of Lex, an AI-infused online writing tool that recently raised capital. Together, we're talking through a few key topics that have been top of mind in recent months:
How many AI-powered, or AI-using writing tools can the market support?
How far into the generative AI moment we are, and how much we should anticipate in the form of technology improvements?
And then we discussed the nuts and bolts aspects of pricing an AI-powered service and other financial matters related to building a service today...2023-09-2731 min
The Weekly Build29: Let’s Have A ChatGPTLlama LifeLlama Life Color Details tweetExtra Focus - How AI Tools Could Revolutionize ADHD ManagementNathan Baschez - Supercharging My Focus (with Help from AI)2023-04-1135 min
ADHD Founders29: Let’s Have A ChatGPTLlama LifeLlama Life Color Details tweetExtra Focus - How AI Tools Could Revolutionize ADHD ManagementNathan Baschez - Supercharging My Focus (with Help from AI)2023-04-1135 min
Narratives111: Nathan Baschez - Strategy, Writing and ContentIn this episode we're joined by Nathan Baschez, cofounder of Every. We discuss business strategy, how win with content, and the art of writing well. Will Jarvis 0:05 Hey folks, welcome to narratives. narratives is a podcast exploring the ways in which the world is better than in the past, the ways it is worse in the past, where it's a better, more definite vision of the future. I'm your host, William Jarvis. And I want to thank you for taking the time out of your day to listen to this episode. I hope you enjoy it. You c...2022-09-1258 min
Narratives w/Will Jarvis111: Nathan Baschez - Strategy, Writing and ContentIn this episode we're joined by Nathan Baschez, cofounder of Every. We discuss business strategy, how win with content, and the art of writing well.
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PerpetualS1 EP7: Subscription Vs Advertising With Nathan Baschez, EveryThe one where Adam goes head-to-head with Nathan Baschez on subscriptions. This is one episode you won’t want to miss.Every is a bundle of business-focused newsletters, accessed through a subscription service. With 40,000 readers already signed up, Every offers insights, news and opinion from creators at the top of their game.Alternate perspectives make the world whole and in today’s special episode, Adam goes all in with Nathan Baschez debating subscription vs advertising and what works best for a media company. Nathan argues his point of view from the Every subscription-forward busines...2022-04-121h 01
The Created EconomyDan Shipper and Nathan Baschez, EveryFounded in 2020, Every (née The Everything Bundle) is a platform for business-focused newsletters and essays. The company originally started on Substack before migrating onto its own environment and now considers itself a writers collective that's between Substack and "The New York Times." In this episode of "The Created Economy," Every co-founders Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez join Gregarious Narain and Ken Yeung to discuss what they're doing, how it's supporting creators, and its future. Check out our website for more info at https://www.createdeconomy.com and get the latest Creator Economy news on Flipboard: https://www.flipboard.co...2022-04-061h 01
Techmeme Ride Home(TWTR SPC) Every.to And Mac StudioWe talked to Nathan Baschez and Dan Shipper, the founders of the media startup Every.to. We talked to them about the realities of being two years in as a modern, from the ground up media company, the shifting landscape in the “creator economy” (remember that?) And a lot about Substack and its business model and philosophy. Around the hour mark, Chris and I have a lengthy conversation about the Mac Studio, my purchasing of one, my cancelling of my order for a Studio Display. And also, Chris has a very interesting 8 dimensional chess theory about where Apple is h...2022-03-191h 22
Metamuse44 // Media empires with Dan ShipperJournalism is changing, as newspapers and magazines adapt to being online and internet-native media empires like Vox and Vice upend the status quo. Dan Shipper is part of this as a founder of Every, a writer collective for business writing. Dan chats with Mark and Adam about the paid newsletter boom; the impact of recommendation algorithms on creator mental health; and content platforms like Wordpress, Substack, and Ghost. Plus: the pros and cons of antigravity machines.
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The Deep End by ODFNavigating the Founder Journey as a Creator with Nathan BaschezNathan Baschez joins the Deep End to discuss the passion economy, the realities of building a media business, and gets real with Marshall about the realities of embarking on the founder journey as a creator. The two also chat about Every, which Nathan describes as a writer collective for productivity, strategy, leadership, & culture.This conversation with Nathan blends a few different threads that we've covered on The Deep End. Nathan's background as a prolific writer & podcaster makes this a natural extension of the conversation that we covered when discussing Creator-Operators with Josh Kaplan two weeks ag...2021-10-271h 01
Making It Up189: Four dirty c-words and memes as shared languageEugene and Charis discuss an essay written by Paul Jun, “The Four Dirty C-Words of the Internet”, and breakdown the usage of the words content, culture, community, and creator. They also talk about memes as shared language and the conduit through which beliefs are transmitted.
00:07:18 Four dirty c-words
00:33:20 Memes
The Four Dirty C-Words of the Internet by Paul Jun
How Memes Control Everything by Nathan Baschez
Support us at patreon.com/maekan and join our community, which includes weekly newsletters and...2021-10-2249 minMaking It Up185: Good critiques and overcoming Web3 biasEugene and Charis discuss what makes a critique good as well as how to give and receive feedback well. Plus, they talk about overcoming Web3 bias in the context of understanding paradigm shifts.
00:03:37 Critiques
00:25:16 Paradigm Shifts
How to Take Criticism by Chapell Ellison
Google Slides from Charis’ PolyU class
Overcoming Web3 Bias | How to navigate strange new paradigms that could change everything—unless they don’t. by Nathan Baschez
Cryptopilled by Drew Coffman
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UI Breakfast: UI/UX Design and Product StrategyEpisode 222: The "Franchise" Philosophy with Jordan SkoleToday we talk about “franchising” — a mental model applicable in marketing and other areas. Our guest is Jordan Skole, a marketing leader and director of product growth at AutoBooks. You’ll learn how to apply this mental model, the best timing for automating processes, tips for solving marketing challenges, the importance of side projects, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesAutoB...2021-09-2039 min
The Swyx MixtapeWriting Newsletters for a Living [Nathan Baschez, Dan Shipper]Audio source: https://share.transistor.fm/s/63fb35d1NotesInterviewing People Good Writing = Engine + Drag + LiftEngine: The core idea. "Why am I here in the first place?"Drag: Writing problems, eg jargon, run-on sentencesLift: Stylistic points — jokes, fun tone, deep insight"Trying to make a writer do something that they don't want to do is like not going to really work""Write pieces that put their finger on things that people have been thinking a lot, but don't have the words for"hit on timely topics, but have something to say that is new and inte...2021-08-0408 min
Indie Hackers#219 – How to Make Your Business Model a Win-Win-Win - with Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez of EveryMy guests today have a really exciting business model and strategy that I want to dig into. Dan Shipper (@danshipper) and Nathan Baschez (@nbashaw) are the founders of Every, a bundle of business focused newsletters. By structuring Every as a "collective," the writers are happier, the readers are getting better content, and Every is profitable. I want to find out how they get readers, how they get writers, and how "bundling" can be strategic for indie hackers. Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/Follow Nathan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/nbashawFollow Dan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/danshipper2021-07-281h 02
Learn to Code in One MonthHow I Built Product Hunt, Dash and more with Nathan BaschezNathan Baschez (Product Hunt, Gimlet Media) is one of the most prolific people I know, having worked at half a dozen of the coolest startups I can think of, all in just the past ten years. I first met Nathan back in 2012 while we were working at General Assembly in New York City. At the time General Assembly had just acquired Nathan's startup Dash — an early learn to code app much like Codecademy. Since then Nathan has gone on to co-create Product Hunt, launch HardBound (a visual storytelling app), as well as dedicate his talents to Gimlet Media and Substack. In...2021-06-0157 min
PressClub with Josh ConstineFuture Of Newsletters with founders of Stratechery, Substack, The Information & moreWhat does the rise of newsletters mean for journalism? Is information overload real and how do we fix it? How can writers and journalists build independent businesses? Josh Constine's PressClub assembles the top names in the newsletter business to discuss the medium, including Substack CEO Chris Best, Stratechery's Ben Thompson, The Hustle's Sam Parr, The Information's Jessica Lessin, Axios' Dan Primack, The Profile's Polina Marinova, Every's Nathan Baschez, and Lenny Rachitsky.2021-03-171h 59
Nathan Barry Archive027: Nathan Baschez - Find Your Best Ideas With a Newsletter MastermindToday’s interview is with Nathan Baschez. There aren’t too many people more familiar with the creator economy than Nathan. He started his own company with Hardbound and was the first employee and VP of Product at Substack in the early days.Now Nathan runs a company called Every, which is a bundle of premium newsletters. In this episode we dive into how Nathan creates tons of high-quality content every week, and how to facilitate your ideas with a newsletter “mastermind” group.We also get into a great discussion about pricing and churn for premium...2021-03-011h 06
OReoSubstack - Nathan BaschezSubstack - Nathan Baschez2020-11-1202 min
A Media OperatorDan Shipper and Nathan Baschez on Building EverythingDan Shipper and Nathan Baschez are the founders of Everything, a bundle of business newsletters. What started as their two respective publications, Superorganizers and Divinatons, has expanded to include multiple newsletters.A few things we discussed in this episode...On revenue sharesWhen a user signs up for the Everything bundle and after all the fees are taken out, Everything sends a survey to the subscriber to ask them what newsletter was the primary reason they signed up. Whatever the answer is dictates which newsletter writer gets paid for that newsletter subscriber. 2020-09-1659 min
Great Books Distilled: Summaries of Bestselling Business and Investing BooksEvery: Business Strategy and Building the World's Best Writing Bundle | Nathan Baschez, Co-Founder & CEOWe explore building and writing the world’s best bundle. We’re joined by Nathan Baschez, Co-Founder and CEO of Every. We cover nonfiction books as secondary education, applying business strategy to personal life, and advice for aspiring strategic leaders.“If you have weak, scattered, or non-systematic observations about the market driving your decision making process, you can make some pretty bad decisions, even if you get all the strategy concepts right.” — Nathan BaschezEPISODE GUIDE (LINKS, QUOTES, NOTES, AND BOOKS MENTIONED)https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/nathan-baschez-outliers-show-notes FULL TEXT TRANSCRIPThttps...2020-09-101h 08
Outliers with Daniel Scrivner: Explore the Greatest Innovators, Founders, and Investors#2 Every: Business Strategy and Building the World's Best Writing Bundle | Nathan Baschez, Co-Founder & CEOIn Episode #2, we explore building and writing the world’s best bundle. We’re joined by Nathan Baschez, Co-Founder and CEO of Every. We cover nonfiction books as secondary education, applying business strategy to personal life, and advice for aspiring strategic leaders.
“If you have weak, scattered, or non-systematic observations about the market driving your decision making process, you can make some pretty bad decisions, even if you get all the strategy concepts right.” — Nathan Baschez
EPISODE GUIDE (LINKS, QUOTES, NOTES, AND BOOKS MENTIONED)
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/nathan-baschez-outliers-show-notes
FULL TEXT TRANSCRIPT
https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/nathan-baschez-outliers-transcript
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The RealignmentEp. 45: Nathan Baschez, How Independent Media Can Take on the WorldNathan Baschez writer and strategist at the Everything Substack bundle joins The Realignment to unpack what Joe Rogan, Call Her Daddy, Spotify, and Quibi mean for the future of media.2020-08-111h 10
Village Global PodcastJournalism, Subscriptions, and Podcasting with Li Jin and Nathan BaschezLi Jin (@ljin18), formerly of a16z and founder of a new firm called Atelier, and Nathan Baschez (@nbashaw), writer of Divinations and co-founder of the Everything bundle, join Erik on this episode.They discuss:- Where they would be investing if they were running a fund focused on the space.- The first wave of content companies and the lessons that have been learned from them.- The key learnings of the last decade for media businesses.- The future of journalism and journalists.- The impact...2020-07-1959 min
Forward Thinking FoundersFI - Nathan Baschez (Divinations) On Growing a Substack NewsletterAbout this episode: Nathan Baschez is the founder of Divinations. Divinations is a newsletter on business strategy featuring interviews with founders, investors, execs, and academics.Listen to this episode if you:Are interested in business strategyWant to learn more about SubstackAre curious how Nathan defines strategyAre curious how to "make it" as a creatorWant to hear the big vision for Divinations!More Info:Want to come on the podcast? Follow me and hit me up on Twitter, I'd love to learn about what you're working on.
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The Better ShowNathan Baschez: COVID EconomicsThis week we are bringing you a special bonus episode as a follow up to our recent discussion on understanding economics in the age of COVID-19. In this episode Ian interviews Nathan Baschez, author of the Divinations newsletter that focuses on business strategy. Ian and Nathan discuss Nathan’s latest article on the economics of COVID-19.Show Notes4:18 — Nathan shares why he felt compelled to write about the economics of the COVID-19 pandemic.7:18 — The contrast between the parts of the economy that are wiped out versus the parts of the economy that are surging.12:39 — Nathan’s experience with the re...2020-04-0239 minThe Better ShowEcon 101 in the age of COVID-19As we record this episode in March of 2020, the world is experiencing an unprecedented challenge in responding to the COVID-19 illness. To slow the spread of COVID-19, governments around the world have instituted significant restrictions on social interactions that have disrupted daily life and resulted in a lot of economic uncertainty and personal anxiety. In this episode, we aim to help alleviate that anxiety by explaining what is going on right now with the economy. We discuss the economic impacts of COVID-19, explore why the stock market is fluctuating so wildly, and offer tips for how to n...2020-03-3159 min
TLDR Daily with Matt & CoNathan BaschezNathan Baschez, on the 7 powers of Business Strategy
https://www.amazon.com/7-Powers-Foundations-Business-Strategy/dp/09981163192020-01-2205 min
Build Your SaaSWhat's your sustainable competitive advantage?Justin is interviewed by Nathan Baschez to talk about business strategy:"Every strategy is really just a theory: “We bet if we do x, then y will happen. In business, the 'y' that people are usually aiming for is some sort of sustainable competitive advantage." – Nathan BaschezThis is a long episode, but it's a good one!What made Jon and Justin feel like they had an advantage in podcasting?Original hypothesis: "Maybe we could be to podcasting, what WPengine was to WordPress hosting. Or what Wistia was to video hosting." How did that work out...2020-01-211h 11
ACQ2 by AcquiredReverse Interview: Acquired Strategy, with Nathan Baschez of Divinations (& former Gimlet Media + Substack)“There’s no real secret to making the stuff we make. It’s not something where you have to be crazy talented. The thing is, you just spend a little bit longer on it than is reasonable. Most people would give up, and then you just keep going on it for three more hours making it better, doing more research, whatever the thing is that makes it better. Wherever most people would say, yea, that’s good enough, you just keep going for a little while longer. Not an eternity longer, just a bit longer.” -Nathan, quoting Alex Blumberg, Gimlet Med...2020-01-211h 08