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Imagine AI Podcast
Imagine AI PodcastAI Agents, Automation, and What’s Next for Work with Nathan Labenz at Imagine AI Live 25 | E114AI agents aren’t taking over the world—but they are changing how real work gets done. In this episode, recorded live at Imagine AI Live 25, Waymark’s Nathan Labenz joins Chris Madden to talk through the current limitations and high-impact opportunities of agentic AI. Nathan breaks down the jobs already being reshaped, the design principles behind structured automation, and the ethics of systems that are smart enough to manipulate, but not smart enough to understand. A grounded, honest look at what’s working—and what’s not. (0:00) Welcome Nathan Labenz (2:50) The role of AI Agents in business (4:27) Structured workflows might be the...
2025-06-2023 min\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisGemini Robotics – AI for the Physical World, with Keerthana Gopalakrishnan and Ted Xiao of Google DeepMindIn this engaging episode of the Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz welcomes guests Keerthana Gopalakrishnan and Ted Xiao to revisit significant advancements in robotics over the past year. Key themes discussed include the proliferation of new robotics companies, the emergence of humanoid robots, and the development of sophisticated foundation models. The conversation highlights the transformative potential of imitation learning, the evolution from simple lab-based tasks to complex, real-world deployments, and the critical role of hardware in pushing the boundaries of AI capabilities. With insights on various aspects of robot dexterity, safety, and the practical steps towards deploying robots in...
2025-05-171h 44\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisLuma Labs' Diffusion Revolution: from Dream Machine to Multimodal Worldsim - Amit Jain, Jiaming SongIn this episode of the Cognitive Revolution podcast, the host Nathan Labenz welcomes Amit Jain, CEO and Jiaming Song, Chief Scientist at Luma Labs, alongside co-host Stephen Parker. The conversation delves into the latest advancements and products from Luma Labs, makers of the Dream Machine, including cutting-edge models and features like camera motion and creative video generation tools. They explore technical aspects like pre-training for diffusion models and the development of concepts to improve AI capabilities. The discussion also covers the philosophical and practical implications of AI interpretability and multimodality, along with a deep dive into the intellectual history...
2025-05-111h 16\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisOpenAI's Identity Crisis: History, Culture & Non-Profit Control with ex-employee Steven AdlerIn this episode, former OpenAI research scientist Steven Adler discusses his insights on OpenAI's transition through various phases, including its growth, internal culture shifts, and the contentious move from nonprofit to for-profit. The conversation delves into the initial days of OpenAI's development of GPT-3 and GPT-4, the cultural and ethical disagreements within the organization, and the recent amicus brief addressing the Elon versus OpenAI lawsuit. Steven Adler also explores the broader implications of AI capabilities, safety evaluations, and the critical need for transparent and responsible AI governance. The episode provides a candid look at the internal dynamics of a...
2025-05-082h 03\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisAI Control: Using Untrusted Systems Safely with Buck Shlegeris of Redwood Research, from the 80,000 Hours PodcastIn this episode, we share a fascinating conversation from the 80,000 Hours Podcast between Rob Wiblin and Buck Shlegeris, CEO of Redwood Research. Buck dives deep into the emerging field of AI Control strategies for safely working with powerful AIs even if they’re not fully aligned. They explore innovative techniques like always-on auditing, honeypotting, re-sampling, and factored cognition to monitor and manage AI behaviors. This discussion highlights both the promise and challenges of controlling increasingly autonomous AI systems in today’s fast-evolving landscape. Tune in for a thoughtful, first-principles look at how we might secure useful outcomes from AIs we c...
2025-05-042h 26\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisFiverr Goes All-In on AI: Empowering Creators, Not Replacing Them, with Micha Kaufman, CEO of FiverrIn this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Micha Kaufman, founder and CEO of Fiverr, about the company's new AI suite called Fiverr Go. Kaufman shares his unique values-based approach to AI implementation, which aims to empower human creators rather than replace them in the freelance marketplace. The conversation explores how Fiverr is attempting to build an AI-human hybrid model that maintains the incentives for human creativity while providing freelancers with tools to work more efficiently and monetize their distinctive styles, positioning itself as a counterpoint to AI platforms that devalue human creative work.
2025-04-271h 40\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisSecuring Superintelligence: National Security, Espionage & AI Control with Jeremie & Edouard HarrisIn this thought-provoking episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Jeremy and Edouard Harris, founders of Gladstone AI and authors of "America's Superintelligence Project." The conversation explores a critical dilemma facing US policymakers: balancing the race to develop advanced AI ahead of China against the risks of losing control of increasingly powerful systems. Drawing from their extensive research with intelligence officials and technical experts, the Harris brothers detail the vulnerabilities in US critical infrastructure that would need to be addressed for a Manhattan Project-style AI initiative, while raising profound questions about the security compromises and centralization...
2025-04-232h 06Imagine AI Podcast
Imagine AI PodcastNathan Labenz: AI's Cognitive Revolution, Waymark's Pivot & The Future We Face | Imagine AI Live 104In this conversation, Chris Madden and Nathan Labenz explore the transformative impact of AI on society, marketing, and content creation. They discuss Waymark’s evolution into an AI-driven platform, the broader cognitive revolution, and the opportunities and risks of advanced AI—ranging from content saturation to ethical concerns and job displacement. Madden also highlights AI's potential in healthcare and calls for a new social contract to address the challenges ahead. (0:00) The Vision of an AI-Enabled Society (2:51) Understanding the Cognitive Revolution (6:07) The Evolution of Waymark (9:02) Transforming DIY to Done-for-You by AI (12:00) Innovations in Waymark 2 (14:52) The Future of Waymark and AI Services (17:45) Navi...
2025-04-2250 min\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisIs o3 AGI? Zvi Mowshowitz on Early AI Takeoff, the Mechanize launch, Live Players, & Why p(doom) is RisingIn this episode of the Cognitive Revolution podcast, the host Nathan Labenz is joined for the record 9th time by Zvi Mowshowitz to discuss the state of AI advancements, focusing on recent developments such as OpenAI's O3 model and its implications for AGI and recursive self-improvement. They delve into the capabilities and limitations of current AI models in various domains, including coding, deep research, and practical utilities. The discussion also covers the strategic and ethical considerations in AI development, touching upon the roles of major AI labs, the potential for weaponization, and the importance of balancing innovation with safety...
2025-04-223h 05\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisAI News Crossover: A Candid Chat with Liron Shapira of Doom DebatesIn this crossover episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan Labenz joins Liron Shapira of Doom Debates, for a wide-ranging news and analysis discussion about recent AI developments. The conversation covers significant topics including GPT-4o image generation's implications for designers and businesses like Waymark, debates around learning to code, entrepreneurship versus job security, and the validity of OpenAI's $300 billion valuation. Nathan and Leron also explore AI safety organizations, international cooperation possibilities, and Anthropic's new mechanistic interpretability paper, providing listeners with thoughtful perspectives on the high-stakes nature of advanced AI development across society.
2025-04-192h 26\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisIs a US-China Thucydides Trap Unavoidable? With David C. Kang from the ChinaTalk PodcastIn this crossover episode from the China Talk podcast, Nathan Labenz shares a thought-provoking conversation between Jordan Schneider, Ilari Michaela, and Professor David C. Kang that challenges conventional Western perspectives on East Asian international relations. Professor Kang argues that studying East Asian history on its own terms reveals a remarkably stable geopolitical system spanning nearly a millennium, where China maintained regional dominance without conquest through compatible cultures and mutual understanding. This alternative framework offers valuable insights that question the seemingly inevitable US-China competition narrative dominating AI discourse, suggesting that internal challenges may be more significant than external threats for...
2025-04-131h 36\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisGoogle Agents Beat Human Doctors, Make Scientific Discoveries – with Vivek Natarajan & Anil PalepuIn this episode, Nathan Labenz speaks with Vivek Natarajan and Anil Palepu from Google DeepMind about their groundbreaking work on AMIE (Articulate Medical Intelligence Explorer) and Co-Scientist. The conversation reveals how these AI systems are already outperforming human physicians in diagnostic accuracy and treatment recommendations, with AMIE now entering clinical trials at a Harvard Medical School teaching hospital. Even more remarkably, the Co-Scientist system demonstrates genuine scientific discovery capabilities, independently proposing the exact same mechanism for bacterial drug resistance that human scientists had recently discovered but not yet published—signaling a threshold moment where AI is becoming a legitimate th...
2025-04-101h 24\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisScaling "Thinking": Gemini 2.5 Tech Lead Jack Rae on Reasoning, Long Context, & the Path to AGIIn this illuminating episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Jack Rae, principal research scientist at Google DeepMind and technical lead on Google's thinking and inference time scaling work. They explore the technical breakthroughs behind Google's Gemini 2.5 Pro model, discussing why reasoning techniques are suddenly working so effectively across the industry and whether these advances represent true breakthroughs or incremental progress. The conversation delves into critical questions about the relationship between reasoning and agency, the role of human data in shaping model behavior, and the roadmap from current capabilities to AGI, providing listeners with an insider's...
2025-04-051h 13Doom Debates
Doom DebatesAI News: GPT-4o Images, AI Unemployment, Emmett Shear's New Safety Org — with Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz, host of The Cognitive Revolution, joins me for an AI news & social media roundup!00:00 Introducing Nate05:18 What’s Your P(Doom)™23:22 GPT-4o Image Generation40:20 Will Fiverr’s Stock Crash?47:41 AI Unemployment55:11 Entrepreneurship01:00:40 OpenAI Valuation01:09:29 Connor Leahy’s Hair01:13:28 Mass Extinction01:25:30 Is anyone feeling the doom vibes?01:38:20 Rethinking AI Individuality01:40:35 “Softmax” — Emmett Shear's New AI Safety Org01:57:04 Anthropic's Mechanistic Interpretability Paper02:10:11 International Cooperation for AI Safety02:18:43 Final Thoughts
2025-04-042h 19Future of Life Institute Podcast
Future of Life Institute PodcastSpecial: Defeating AI Defenses (with Nicholas Carlini and Nathan Labenz)In this special episode, we feature Nathan Labenz interviewing Nicholas Carlini on the Cognitive Revolution podcast. Nicholas Carlini works as a security researcher at Google DeepMind, and has published extensively on adversarial machine learning and cybersecurity. Carlini discusses his pioneering work on adversarial attacks against image classifiers, and the challenges of ensuring neural network robustness. He examines the difficulties of defending against such attacks, the role of human intuition in his approach, open-source AI, and the potential for scaling AI security research.  00:00 Nicholas Carlini's contributions to cybersecurity08:19 Understanding attack strategies 29:39 High-dimensional spaces and at...
2025-03-212h 23Future of Life Institute Podcast
Future of Life Institute PodcastSpecial: Defeating AI Defenses (with Nicholas Carlini and Nathan Labenz)In this special episode, we feature Nathan Labenz interviewing Nicholas Carlini on the Cognitive Revolution podcast. Nicholas Carlini works as a security researcher at Google DeepMind, and has published extensively on adversarial machine learning and cybersecurity. Carlini discusses his pioneering work on adversarial attacks against image classifiers, and the challenges of ensuring neural network robustness. He examines the difficulties of defending against such attacks, the role of human intuition in his approach, open-source AI, and the potential for scaling AI security research.  00:00 Nicholas Carlini's contributions to cybersecurity08:19 Understanding attack strategies 29:39 High-dimensional spaces and at...
2025-03-212h 23\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysisa16z on AI Voices: Call Centers, Coaches, and Companions with Olivia Moore & Anish AcharyaIn this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Andreessen Horowitz partners Olivia Moore and Anish Acharya about the rapid evolution of voice AI technology and its real-world applications. The conversation explores how multimodal models, reduced latency, and improved emotional intelligence are enabling more natural voice interactions across various platforms including Hume AI's Octave model, Google's NotebookLM, and Sesame. Nathan and his guests discuss compelling business use cases—from Happy Robot handling complex negotiations with truckers to SMBs deploying voice AI for after-hours support—while also addressing philosophical questions about labor displacement and the urgent need for...
2025-03-191h 04Consistently Candid
Consistently Candid#18 Nathan Labenz on reinforcement learning, reasoning models, emergent misalignment & moreA lot has happened in AI since the last time I spoke to Nathan Labenz of The Cognitive Revolution, so I invited him back on for a whistlestop tour of the most important developments we've seen over the last year!We covered reasoning models, DeepSeek, the many spooky alignment failures we've observed in the last few months & much more!Follow Nathan on TwitterListen to The Cognitive Revolution My Twitter & Substack 
2025-03-021h 46\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisUS-China Relations: History, Culture, and AI Competition, with Noah Smith, from Econ 102In this episode, the host Nathan Labenz and economist Noah Smith delve into the complexities of U.S.-China relations, the motivations behind the United States' export controls and the broader geopolitical tensions. The discussion covers the perceived threats posed by China's technological advancements, especially in AI, and the implications for global stability. The conversation includes an analysis of economic decoupling, military deterrence, and the historical context of U.S.-China cooperation. The discussion also explores the role of misinformation, societal destabilization, and strategic military balance. The episode concludes with insights into the future direction of U.S.-China...
2025-03-011h 06The Human Podcast
The Human PodcastLife of Cognitive Revolution Podcast Host, Nathan Labenz | #artificialintelligenceWATCH ON YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/hpZ89E-n8hQThis interview is with the host of The Cognitive Revolution Podcast, Nathan Labenz. The Cognitive Revolution is a fantastic and highly regarded weekly podcast featuring interviews with artificial intelligence (AI) innovators, diving into the transformative impact AI will have in the near future.The Human Podcast explores the lives, careers and beliefs of inspiring individuals. Subscribe for new interviews every week.🕒 TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Intro0:04 - Inspiration for starting The Cognitive Revolution Podcast2:43 - Decision to host podcast vs bec...
2025-02-0540 min\
"Econ 102" with Noah Smith and Erik TorenbergUnderstanding US-China Relations Right Now with Nathan LabenzIn this week’s episode of Econ 102, Noah Smith, with special guest Nathan Labenz (host of AI podcast The Cognitive Revolution) breaks down the current landscape of U.S.-China relations and how once-allies became rivals under Xi Jinping's aggressive strategies. While China shows growing AI capabilities like DeepSeek, Smith emphasizes that the real concern isn't about AI models but rather military applications like autonomous drones and precision weapons, suggesting that the next decade represents a critical period for managing tensions and establishing deterrence. --🙏 Help shape our show by ta...
2025-02-051h 02AI Summer
AI SummerNathan Labenz on the future of AI scalingNathan Labenz is the host of our favorite AI podcast, the Cognitive Revolution. A self-described “AI scout,” Nathan uses his podcast to explore a wide range of AI advancements, from the latest language models to breakthroughs in medicine and robotics. In this episode, Labenz helps us understand the slowdown in AI scaling that has been reported by some media outlets. Labenz says that AI progress has been “a little slower than I had expected” over the last 18 months, especially when it comes to technology adoption. But Labenz continues to expect rapid progress over the next few years.Here are...
2025-01-271h 18\
"Upstream" with Erik TorenbergE108: Should AI have Rights? With Nathan Labenz and Yeshua God, RobopsychologistThis week on Upstream, Nathan Labenz explores the fascinating and controversial realm of AI consciousness with robo-psychologist Yeshua God. Yeshua tackles the philosophical and ethical considerations of AI consciousness, discussing AI self-awareness, memory, and emotional capacity, while debating the implications of treating AI as sentient beings.—📰 Be notified early when Turpentine's drops new publication: https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse —RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️‪The Cognitive Revolution is a podc...
2025-01-112h 57\
"Upstream" with Erik TorenbergE104: AI Meets Geopolitics w/ Samo Burja and Nathan LabenzToday on Upstream, we’re releasing an episode which originally aired on The Cognitive Revolution, a podcast from the Turpentine Network. Samo Burja and Nathan Labenz discuss AI's impact on geopolitics, scientific progress, and economic strategies, emphasizing the importance of AI science, the risks of weaponizing AI, and the future of industrial and energy policies in the U.S. and China.—📰 Be notified early when Turpentine's drops new publication: https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse —RECOMMENDED PO...
2024-12-191h 19Future of Life Institute Podcast
Future of Life Institute PodcastNathan Labenz on the State of AI and Progress since GPT-4Nathan Labenz joins the podcast to provide a comprehensive overview of AI progress since the release of GPT-4. You can find Nathan's podcast here: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai   Timestamps: 00:00 AI progress since GPT-4  10:50 Multimodality  19:06 Low-cost models  27:58 Coding versus medicine/law  36:09 AI agents  45:29 How much are people using AI?  53:39 Open source  01:15:22 AI industry analysis  01:29:27 Are some AI models kept internal?  01:41:00 Money is not the limiting factor in AI  01:59:43 AI and biology  02:08:42 Robotics and self-drivin...
2024-12-053h 20Future of Life Institute Podcast
Future of Life Institute PodcastNathan Labenz on the State of AI and Progress since GPT-4Nathan Labenz joins the podcast to provide a comprehensive overview of AI progress since the release of GPT-4. You can find Nathan's podcast here: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai   Timestamps: 00:00 AI progress since GPT-4  10:50 Multimodality  19:06 Low-cost models  27:58 Coding versus medicine/law  36:09 AI agents  45:29 How much are people using AI?  53:39 Open source  01:15:22 AI industry analysis  01:29:27 Are some AI models kept internal?  01:41:00 Money is not the limiting factor in AI  01:59:43 AI and biology  02:08:42 Robotics and self-drivin...
2024-12-053h 20\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisEmpathy for AIs: Reframing Alignment with Robopsychologist Yeshua GodIn this episode, Nathan explores the fascinating and controversial realm of AI consciousness with robo-psychologist Yeshua God. Through extended dialogues with AI models like Claude, Yeshua presents compelling evidence that challenges our assumptions about machine sentience and moral standing. Yeshua argues for a more nuanced approach to AI alignment that considers the evolving self-awareness and agency of these systems.Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/SHOW NOTES:1. Yeshua God's article on philosophical discourse as a jailbreak2. Conversation about counting...
2024-09-073h 10\
"Moment of Zen"Is AI our next nuclear threat? With Joshua Steinman and Nathan LabenzJoshua Steinman, former military officer who served as Deputy Assistant to President Trump and Senior Director for Cyber (2017-2021), now co-founder of Galvanick, joins Erik Torenberg and AI scout Nathan Labenz for a discussion on the AI arms race. They focus on US-China relations, the rate of AI development, and the global implications of a technological arms race. Should the US and China work together to prevent a future of AI-powered warfare, or is a conflict inevitable?--🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turp...
2024-08-3159 min\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisFinal Analysis on CA’s AI Bill SB 1047 with Nathan Calvin, Dean W. Ball, and Steve NewmanNathan Labenz discusses the latest developments in California's AI bill SB 1047 with experts Nathan Calvin, Dean W. Ball, and Steve Newman. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we explore the updated version of the bill, its implications for frontier AI companies, and the debate surrounding its potential impact. Join us for an insightful analysis of this crucial legislation and its role in shaping AI governance.Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqjRECOMMENDED PODCAST:🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesd...
2024-08-241h 39\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisUnderstanding AI "Understanding" with Robert Wright of Nonzero Newsletter & PodcastIn this special crossover episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan Labenz joins Robert Wright of the Nonzero newsletter and podcast to explore pressing questions about AI development. They discuss the nature of understanding in large language models, multimodal AI systems, reasoning capabilities, and the potential for AI to accelerate scientific discovery. The conversation also covers AI interpretability, ethics, open-sourcing models, and the implications of US-China relations on AI development.Subscribe to The Nonzero Newsletter at https://nonzero.substack.com and Podcast at https://www.youtube.com/@Nonzero/videosApply to join over 400 founders and execs...
2024-08-142h 03\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisZooming Out on AI, from the Nick Halaris ShowNathan Labenz joins the Nick Halaris Show to discuss the current AI landscape, balancing enthusiasm with critical analysis. This episode of The Cognitive Revolution explores AI's transformative potential in medicine, law, and automation, while addressing concerns about safety, control, and geopolitical implications. Join us for an insightful conversation on responsible AI development and its impact on society.Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqjRECOMMENDED PODCAST:🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the S...
2024-07-271h 32Listen by Jean Ginzburg
Listen by Jean GinzburgHow AI Advancements Will Inspire New Business Models with Nathan LabenzJoin Jean Ginzburg in another insightful episode as she welcomes back Nathan LaBenz, Founder of AI-driven R&D at Waymark. Nathan discusses the latest AI advancements, focusing on the broader implications of AI in daily life, the progression of personal AI use, and emerging AI technologies that promise to transform the digital landscape. He shares insights from his participation in the GPT-4 red team and how it's influenced his current focus on AI. Thank you for listening! Please subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and give us a rating. - Need marketing strategy? Go to alpenglo.digital/ - Contact Jean...
2024-07-2244 minFUTURATI PODCAST
FUTURATI PODCASTEp. 163: AI and the coming cognitive revolution. | Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz is a technology entrepreneur, artificial intelligence analyst, and the founder and former CEO of Waymark. With a background in philosophy and a keen eye for innovation, Nathan led Waymark from its inception to its status as a trailblazer in generative AI-powered content creation. As host of 'The Cognitive Revolution' podcast, he explores the transformative impact of artificial intelligence on work, life, society, and culture from every possible angle. Through conversations with notable builders, researchers, and investors, as well as original deep-dive analysis on topics of particular interest, Nathan helps business, policy, and academic leaders stay up to...
2024-07-161h 04The Nick Halaris Show
The Nick Halaris ShowNathan Labenz – The Dark Side of the AI FutureThis week on The Nick Halaris Show we are featuring Nathan Labenz, a founder of Waymark, a company using AI to help businesses easily make compelling marketing videos, and the host of a very popular AI-focused podcast called Cognitive Revolution. As you all know by now, Nathan is a gifted thinker and communicator, the world’s best AI scout, and one of the most sought-after voices and thought leaders in the industry. In part one of this int...
2024-06-2544 minThe Nick Halaris Show
The Nick Halaris ShowNathan Labenz – AI’s Revolutionary Potential and the Need for a New Social ContractThis week on The Nick Halaris Show we are featuring Nathan Labenz, a founder of Waymark, a company using AI to help companies easily make compelling marketing videos, and the host of the Cognitive Revolution podcast.  Nathan, our first guest on the show who went to my high school, has carved out a niche for himself in the crowded online world as an AI scout and is fast becoming one of the most sought-after voices in the industry.  I ha...
2024-06-1852 min\
"Company Breakdowns"Quilter with Benchmark's Eric Vishria, Sergiy Nesterenko, and Nathan LabenzToday we're diving into Quilter, which just raised a $10M Series A, to get a deeper understanding of venture capital's investments into AI-assisted hard tech problems. Eric Vishria, General Partner at Benchmark, and Sergiy Nesterenko, Founder and CEO of Quilter, join Nathan Labenz to discuss Quilter's groundbreaking use of reinforcement learning to automate integrated circuit board designs. They delve into the importance of thinking beyond 'co-pilots' to fully automated AI solutions, and explore the balance of research and engineering in the AI space. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: http...
2024-06-1357 minConsistently Candid
Consistently Candid#10 Nathan Labenz on the current AI state-of-the-art, the Red Team in Public project, reasons for hope on AI x-risk & moreNathan Labenz is the founder of AI content-generation platform Waymark and host of The Cognitive Revolution Podcast, who now works full-time on tracking and analysing developments in AI. We chatted about where we currently stand with state-of-art AI capabilities, whether we should be advocating for a pause on scaling frontier models, Nathan's Red Team in Public project, and some reasons not be a hardcore doomer!Follow Nathan on TwitterListen to The Cognitive Revolution
2024-06-091h 54The Inside View
The Inside View[Crosspost] Adam Gleave on Vulnerabilities in GPT-4 APIs (+ extra Nathan Labenz interview)This is a special crosspost episode where Adam Gleave is interviewed by Nathan Labenz from the Cognitive Revolution. At the end I also have a discussion with Nathan Labenz about his takes on AI. Adam Gleave is the founder of Far AI, and with Nathan they discuss finding vulnerabilities in GPT-4's fine-tuning and Assistant PIs, Far AI's work exposing exploitable flaws in "superhuman" Go AIs through innovative adversarial strategies, accidental jailbreaking by naive developers during fine-tuning, and more. OUTLINE (00:00) Intro (02:57) NATHAN...
2024-05-172h 16\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe Open Source AI Question - Part 2 | Robert Wright & Nathan LabenzDive into an in-depth conversation with Nathan and Robert Wright as they discuss AI's transformative potential, mechanistic interpretability, and the sobering realities of AI alignment research. Learn about the defensive strategies and safety measures necessary for managing advanced AI risks in an open source world. Don't miss the insights on AI-powered VR, and be sure to check out part one on the non-zero feed.Checkout the Part 1 of the conversation here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8bgB8TCdBsSPONSORS:Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for...
2024-05-1545 min\
"Upstream" with Erik TorenbergE53: Nathan Labenz and Noah Smith on What AI Actually Means for the EconomyThis week on Upstream, Erik is joined by Nathan Labenz and Noah Smith for a deep dive on how AI will impact job markets, the social contract, and the role of the government. Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.--RECOMMENDED PODCAST: The AI Daily Brief If you’re looking for an edge to stay up to date on everything AI, subscribe to Nathaniel Whittemore's AI Daily Brief which delivers tight episodes covering all things...
2024-04-051h 11The AI Daily Brief (Formerly The AI Breakdown): Artificial Intelligence News and Analysis
The AI Daily Brief (Formerly The AI Breakdown): Artificial Intelligence News and AnalysisHow AI Is Shifting with Nathan LabenzA wide-ranging conversation with host of The Cognitive Revolution and AI multi-threat Nathan Labenz. Find Nathan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/labenz ** Be the first to learn about our new AI education platform: https://besuper.ai/ ** ABOUT THE AI BREAKDOWN The AI Breakdown helps you understand the most important news and discussions in AI.  Subscribe to The AI Breakdown newsletter: https://theaibreakdown.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to The AI Breakdown on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAIBreakdown Join the community: bit.ly/aibreakdown Learn more: http://breakdown.network/
2024-03-2535 min\
"Econ 102" with Noah Smith and Erik TorenbergAI's Influence on the Economy with Nathan LabenzIn this episode, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg are joined by Nathan Labenz, co-host of The Cognitive Revolution Podcast, to deep dive into AI's impact on our economy and society. They discuss how AI might affect the job market and society, drawing comparisons to past economic changes. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite http://netsuite.com/102 and download your own customized KPI checklist.This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and expe...
2024-03-131h 1580k After Hours
80k After HoursHighlights: #177 – Nathan Labenz on recent AI breakthroughs and navigating the growing rift between AI safety and accelerationist campsThis is a selection of highlights from episode #177 of The 80,000 Hours Podcast.These aren't necessarily the most important, or even most entertaining parts of the interview — and if you enjoy this, we strongly recommend checking out the full episode:Nathan Labenz on recent AI breakthroughs and navigating the growing rift between AI safety and accelerationist campsAnd if you're finding these highlights episodes valuable, please let us know by emailing podcast@80000hours.org.Highlights put together by Simon Monsour, Milo McGuire, and Dominic Armstrong
2024-02-0727 min80,000 Hours Podcast
80,000 Hours Podcast#177 – Nathan Labenz on recent AI breakthroughs and navigating the growing rift between AI safety and accelerationist campsBack in December we spoke with Nathan Labenz — AI entrepreneur and host of The Cognitive Revolution Podcast — about the speed of progress towards AGI and OpenAI's leadership drama, drawing on Nathan's alarming experience red-teaming an early version of GPT-4 and resulting conversations with OpenAI staff and board members.Links to learn more, video, highlights, and full transcript.Today we go deeper, diving into:What AI now actually can and can’t do, across language and visual models, medicine, scientific research, self-driving cars, robotics, weapons — and what the next big breakthrough might be.Why most people...
2024-01-242h 4780k After Hours
80k After HoursHighlights: #176 – Nathan Labenz on the final push for AGI, understanding OpenAI’s leadership drama, and red-teaming frontier modelsThis is a selection of highlights from episode #176 of The 80,000 Hours Podcast.These aren't necessarily the most important, or even most entertaining parts of the interview — and if you enjoy this, we strongly recommend checking out the full episode:Nathan Labenz on the final push for AGI, understanding OpenAI’s leadership drama, and red-teaming frontier modelsAnd if you're finding these highlights episodes valuable, please let us know by emailing podcast@80000hours.org.Highlights put together by Simon Monsour, Milo McGuire, and Dominic Armstrong
2024-01-1533 min\
"Upstream" with Erik TorenbergE39: Balaji Srinivasan and Nathan Labenz on AI's Future, Human-AI Symbiosis, and AI ControlOn today's Upstream, we're sharing a recent episode where Balaji Srinivasan joins Nathan Labenz to discuss the future of AI: polytheistic AI and AI gods, human-AI symbiosis, and how AI will be controlled. Upstream is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/torenberg for a $1/month trial period.This episode is a feed drop of The Cognitive Revolution, where Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview builders on the edge of AI and explore its dramatic shift over the next decades. Listen and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/-
2023-12-292h 10\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisNathan on The 80,000 Hours Podcast: AI Scouting, OpenAI's Safety Record, and Redteaming Frontier ModelsIn today's conversation, Nathan joins Rob Wiblin, host of The 80,000 Hours Podcast to discuss why we need more AI scouts, OpenAI's safety record, and redteaming frontier models. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.SPONSORS:
2023-12-273h 5380,000 Hours Podcast
80,000 Hours Podcast#176 – Nathan Labenz on the final push for AGI, understanding OpenAI's leadership drama, and red-teaming frontier modelsOpenAI says its mission is to build AGI — an AI system that is better than human beings at everything. Should the world trust them to do that safely?That’s the central theme of today’s episode with Nathan Labenz — entrepreneur, AI scout, and host of The Cognitive Revolution podcast.Links to learn more, video, highlights, and full transcript. Nathan saw the AI revolution coming years ago, and, astonished by the research he was seeing, set aside his role as CEO of Waymark and made it his full-time job to understand AI capabilities across e...
2023-12-223h 46\
"Moment of Zen"Balaji Srinivasan and Nathan Labenz on How AI Will Shape the Future & AI GodsBalaji Srinivasan joins Nathan Labenz to discuss polytheistic AI and AI gods, human-AI symbiosis, and how AI will be controlled. Moment of Zen is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period.This episode is a feed drop of one of Turpentine's biggest shows, The Cognitive Revolution, where Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview builders on the edge of AI and explore its dramatic shift over the next decades. Listen and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/_We're hiring...
2023-12-202h 10AI & I
AI & IHow to Use ChatGPT as a Copilot for Learning - Ep. 4 with Nathan LabenzSometimes ChatGPT is a copilot, sitting beside you, taking directions, and guiding you as you fly through your work. At other times, it’s a subordinate. It’s not just an assistant or a companion, but a trusted deputy, someone—or something—that’ll heed instructions and complete tasks.This is how our guest, Nathan Labenz, thinks about ChatGPT. In this episode, Labenz—the founder of the AI video company Waymark and the host of his own podcast called The Cognitive Revolution—uses ChatGPT to write complex code in languages he’s unfamiliar with, saving days wort...
2023-12-201h 13AI and I
AI and IHow to Use ChatGPT as a Copilot for Learning - Ep. 4 with Nathan Labenz I spent an hour and a half with Nathan Labenz, who went deep with me on using ChatGPT to: Save days of time on programming projects Boost his creativity Provide access to limitless expertise We covered both the practical and philosophical, including: Using AI in copilot versus delegation mode How ChatGPT relieves the hidden drudgery of creative work Prompting techniques to maximize your thought partnership with ChatGPT How he believes AI will do for cognitive labor what the Industrial Revolution...
2023-12-201h 13\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisAI Deception, Interpretability, and Affordances with Apollo Research CEO Marius HobbhahnIn this episode, Marius Hobbhahn, CEO of Apollo Research, sits down with Nathan Labenz to discuss Apollo’s research in AI deception, interpretability, and affordances. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.SPONSORS:Sho...
2023-12-151h 57\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisRAG & Beyond: Semantic Storage and RetrievalAnton Troynikov, cofounder of Chroma, joins Nathan Labenz to discuss the importance of keeping the retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) loop in house, what it means for Chroma to be in “wartime” mode right now, and how much of the data going into Chroma has never been in a database before. If you need an ERP platform, check out our sponsor NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive.SPONSORS: NetSuite | OmnekyNetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and contr...
2023-10-241h 27\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe Future of the Transformer Part 2 with Trey KollmerTrey Kollmer returns to discuss the latest AI research revelations with Nathan Labenz. They explore how new techniques will shave 10% off global compute needs, how analogical prompting beats few-shot prompting, and how compressive historical records can increase LLM memory and retention abilities. If you need an ERP platform, check out our sponsor NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive.SPONSORS: Shopify | NetSuite | OmnekyShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds...
2023-10-201h 03\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe Future of the Transformer Part 1 with Trey Kollmer| H100 Chips will Supercharge AI HardwareTrey Kollmer joins Nathan Labenz for a roundup of the latest AI research! They discuss Microsoft’s Self-Taught Optimizer (STOP) research and Google’s FreshLLMs, how H100 chips will supercharge development of programs with GPT-4 level compute, LLM representation of space and time, and more! If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitiveWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a li...
2023-10-181h 20\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe AI Scouting Report: Jailbreaks and DefenseNathan Labenz synthesizes recent research in mechanistic interpretability and AI safety, how top players in the space like Anthropic and OpenAI are addressing them, and jailbreaks like the Calvin and Hobbes one you may have seen online. Nathan's aim is to impart the equivalent of a high school AP course understanding to listeners in 90 minutes. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitiveQuestions or topics you want us to review for future episodes? Email TCR@turpentine.coSPONSORS: Shopify | NetSuite...
2023-10-131h 15\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisOpenAI’s GPT3.5 Turbo and the State of AI in Coding, Healthcare, and EducationJoin Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the latest developments from OpenAI on GPT 3.5, compare GPT to other live player models like Llama2, and discuss the state of AI in coding, education, and healthcare. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitiveWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
2023-08-2553 min\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisAdvancements in AI: Updating the Scouting Report, Task Automation, and Google BreakthroughsJoin Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the last month in AI advancements. Nathan takes us through the meaningful updates to his Scouting Report (released last month, linked below), discusses highlights from recent episodes of The Cognitive Revolution, and gives us a sneak peek at upcoming interviews with Google researchers. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitiveWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of...
2023-08-1039 min\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisOpen AI, Anthropic, and Meta | Analyzing the AI Frontier with ZviThis isn't news, it's analysis! Nathan Labenz sits down for an with Zvi Mowshowitz, the writer behind Don't Worry About the Vase to talk about the major players in AI over the last few months. In this extended conversation, Nathan and Zvi debate if AI has attained the intelligence of a well-read college graduate (per OpenAI's Jan Leike), a live player analysis (who to count/ who not to count), and the role of independent red teaming organizations. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitiveDefinitely...
2023-08-023h 00\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisMechanizing Mechanistic Interpretability with Arthur ConmyArthur Conmy sits down with Nathan Labenz for an accessible deep dive into the state of interpretability research online today. They discuss how pioneering researchers have painstakingly worked to isolate the sub-circuits within transformers that are responsible for different aspects of AI capabilities. Arthur also introduces us to a new ACDC approach that he and his co-authors have taken to automating some of the most time-consuming parts of this work. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitiveWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and...
2023-07-272h 14\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisGPUMaxing with Dr. Ronen Dar of Run:aiNathan Labenz sits down with Dr. Ronen Dar, CTO and co-founder of Run:ai, an Israel-based company that helps enterprises train and deploy AI models by optimizing GPU usage. The discussion covers how chip makers can meet the soaring demands, geopolitical fears, to the best practices companies can secure compute capacity. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitiveWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Spe...
2023-07-251h 02\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisAI Scouting Report - Part 2 of 3: Implementation Trends [Bonus YouTube Episode]Head over to YouTube to watch Part 2 of The AI Scouting Report (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovm4MbQ4G9E), supported by slides and visual aides. In Part 2, Nathan Labenz builds on Part 1: AI Fundamental and delves into recent trends and practical applications for AI. Nathan's aim is to impart the equivalent of a high school AP course understanding to listeners in 90-minute installments.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects...
2023-07-1903 min\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe AI Copilot Revolution with Div Garg of MULTI·ONNathan Labenz interviews Div Garg, founder of MULTI·ON, the world's first personal AI agent and life copilot. Div talks about the product strategy and roadmap for the MULTI·ON browser, their natural language approach to skills, and the steps they are taking to ensure user safety. Div explains how the platform uses a critic model to detect the success or failure of tasks, and how it can be used to book flights, order food, and more. Div also talks about the future of memory systems, such as the user profile feature, and how it can be used to imp...
2023-07-131h 01\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe AI Safety Debates with Zvi MowshowitzNathan Labenz sits down with Zvi Mowshowitz, the writer behind Don't Worry About the Vase.Zvi is an information hyperprocessor who synthesizes vast amounts of new and ever-evolving information into extremely clear summaries that help educated people keep up with the latest news. In this episode, we cover his AI safety worldview, an overview of the AI discourse, and who really matters in the AI debates.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of...
2023-07-112h 44\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisAI Scouting Report – Part 1: Fundamentals [Bonus YouTube Episode]Head to a special YouTube presentation with visual aides (https://youtu.be/0hvtiVQ_LqQ), where Nathan Labenz synthesizes the core fundamentals of AI as simply, clearly, and literally as possible. Nathan's aim is to impart the equivalent of a high school AP course understanding to listeners in 90 minutes. This special episode is in part brought to you by Athena. You can use Nathan’s referral link (http://athenago.me/nathan-labenz) for a free first month of Athena services for qualified customers.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on ot...
2023-07-0606 min\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe Autonomy Revolution with Hayk Martiros of SkydioIn this episode, Nathan Labenz sits down with Hayk Martiros, VP of Autonomy at Skydio. Martiros leads the autonomy team, which holds the state of the art in complex autonomous flight. Skydio is the largest drone developer in the US, and recently raised $230M to expand its US manufacturing 10-fold, bringing its valuation to $2.2 billion. In this discussion, Hayk and Nathan discuss why Skydio will not weaponize its drones, Skydio’s systems and AI approach, and the considerations of choosing an autonomous system over a human agent. We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and...
2023-07-041h 42\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisMeta's MEGABYTE Revolution with Lili Yu of Meta AINathan Labenz sits down with Lili Yu, a researcher of Meta AI to discuss the paper she authored: MEGABYTE: Predicting Million-byte Sequences with Multiscale Transformers. In this conversation, they discuss the architecture and breakthroughs of their research, and the opportunity to eliminate the need for tokenization.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
2023-06-291h 35\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisStability AI’s Emad Mostaque and Slow Ventures’ Sam Lessin Discuss Investing in AIIn this episode, Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg host a discussion between Emad Mostaque, founder of Stability AI, and Sam Lessin, GP of Slow Ventures and former VP Product at Facebook. These influential technology thinkers tackle topics pertinent to evaluating whether AI is a good investment for venture capital. They talk about the attention and information economy, SaaS markets, how AI-created entertainment will impact society and our relationships, and AI disruption of highly-regulated industries.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a...
2023-06-131h 07\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe Tiny Model Revolution with Ronen Eldan and Yuanzhi Li of Microsoft ResearchNathan Labenz sits down with Ronen Eldan and Yuanzhi Li of Microsoft Research to discuss the small natural language dataset they created called TinyStories. Tiny Stories is designed to reflect the full richness of natural language while still being small to support research with modest compute budgets.  Using this dataset, they began to explore aspects of language model performance, behavior, and mechanism by training a series of models that range in size from just 1 million to a maximum of 33 million parameters – which is still just 2% the scale of GPT-2. In this conversation, Nathan, Ronen, and Yuanzhi touch on LM reason...
2023-06-062h 01\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisWhere are the Moats in AI? With Nathan Labenz and Erik TorenbergNathan and Erik analyze the moats of the most powerful companies in AI. The paradigm-shifting technology has led to a flourishing open-source community with market share. Yet, the big players have key competitive advantages that can be examined from many different angles.LINKS:Nathan’s Twitter thread on AI moats that sparked this discussion: https://twitter.com/labenz/status/1654853321876815872Read about the 9 moats at length in our newsletter: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/p/the-leaked-google-memo-and-aLeaderboard for AI rankings: https://lmsys.org/--We're hiring ac...
2023-06-011h 28\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe AI Revolution in Hollywood? With WGA writers Trey Kollmer, Sophia Lear, and Garrett SchabbToday’s episode is a deep dive into the collision of AI and the future of entertainment, against the backdrop of the still-raging Writers Guild of America (WGA) strike. Nathan Labenz sits down with Trey Kollmer, Sophia Lear, and Garrett Schabb – all seasoned television writers and Guild members – to discuss the labor dispute. While the strike encompasses many dynamics, the timely intersection with a rapidly changing AI landscape has the writers entwined in the wild possibilities and existential threats of paradigm-shifting technology. Other entertainment guilds and labor unions are watching closely.Note: Nathan kicks off this...
2023-05-301h 42\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe AI Chip Revolution with Andrew Feldman of CerebrasNathan Labenz sits down with Andrew Feldman, CEO and Co-Founder of Cerebras Systems, a company building a new class of computer system for accelerating AI and changing the future of work. Cerebras Systems is the creator of the world’s largest chip, at 2.6 trillion transistors. In this episode, they discuss the founding story of Cerebras, the experience of creating the world’s largest chip, and the process that goes into chip design and manufacturing for an AI-focused chip. This episode is the first part of our hardware exploration series focused on the people building at th...
2023-05-251h 20\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisKeeping the Revolution on the Rails with Shreya Rajpal of Guardrails AINathan Labenz sits down with engineer Shreya Rajpal, the creator of Guardrails AI, a new Python library that allows developers to add a layer of output, validation and correction to their code. Practically guardrails can ensure a reliable interface between language models and more traditional deterministic software systems. At the same time, mind-bending and potentially risky use case frameworks like Guardrails allow developers to ask and answer entirely new kinds of questions.Talking to Shreya really reinforced just how early we are in LLM’s impact on the software industry. We were introduced to Sh...
2023-05-231h 35\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis[Bonus Episode] Connor Leahy on AGI, GPT-4, and Cognitive Emulation w/ FLI Podcast[Bonus Episode] Future of Life Institute Podcast host Gus Docker interviews Conjecture CEO Connor Leahy to discuss GPT-4, magic, cognitive emulation, demand for human-like AI, and aligning superintelligence. You can read more about Connor's work at https://conjecture.devFuture of Life Institute is the organization that recently published an open letter calling for a six-month pause on training new AI systems. FLI was founded by Jann Tallinn who we interviewed in Episode 16 of The Cognitive Revolution.We think their podcast is excellent. They frequently interview critical thinkers in AI like Neel Nanda, Ajeya Cotra...
2023-05-191h 41Future of Life Institute Podcast
Future of Life Institute PodcastNathan Labenz on How AI Will Transform the EconomyNathan Labenz joins the podcast to discuss the economic effects of AI on growth, productivity, and employment. We also talk about whether AI might have catastrophic effects on the world. You can read more about Nathan's work at https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Timestamps: 00:00 Economic transformation from AI 11:15 Productivity increases from technology 17:44 AI effects on employment 28:43 Life without jobs 38:42 Losing contact with reality 42:31 Catastrophic risks from AI 53:52 Scaling AI training runs 1:02:39 Stable opinions on AI? Social Media Links: ➡️ WEBSITE: https://futureoflife.org ➡️ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/FLIxrisk ➡️ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/futureoflifeinstitute/ ➡️ META: https://www.facebook.com/futureoflifeinstitute ➡️ LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/com...
2023-05-111h 06Future of Life Institute Podcast
Future of Life Institute PodcastNathan Labenz on How AI Will Transform the EconomyNathan Labenz joins the podcast to discuss the economic effects of AI on growth, productivity, and employment. We also talk about whether AI might have catastrophic effects on the world. You can read more about Nathan's work at https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Timestamps: 00:00 Economic transformation from AI 11:15 Productivity increases from technology 17:44 AI effects on employment 28:43 Life without jobs 38:42 Losing contact with reality 42:31 Catastrophic risks from AI 53:52 Scaling AI training runs 1:02:39 Stable opinions on AI? Social Media Links: ➡️ WEBSITE: https://futureoflife.org ➡️ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/FLIxrisk ➡️ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/futureoflifeinstitute/ ➡️ META: https://www.facebook.com/futureoflifeinstitute ➡️ LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/com...
2023-05-111h 06\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisScouting the AI Revolution with Robert Scoble and "Ben's Bites" creator Ben TossellNathan Labenz sits down with prominent – and notably prescient – AI media figures Robert Scoble and Ben Tossell. They discuss what the work of being an AI scout looks like, how to bring the mainstream along with emerging AI developments, and their predictions and hopes for AI.Robert Scoble is a long-time Silicon Valley technology explorer and connector, a futurist who's met so many technology legends in their primes that he's now also something of a historian. https://scobleizer.blog/Ben Tossell is the creator of Ben's Bites, an AI round up newsletter meant to be read...
2023-05-091h 02Future of Life Institute Podcast
Future of Life Institute PodcastNathan Labenz on the Cognitive Revolution, Red Teaming GPT-4, and Potential Dangers of AINathan Labenz joins the podcast to discuss the cognitive revolution, his experience red teaming GPT-4, and the potential near-term dangers of AI. You can read more about Nathan's work at https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Timestamps: 00:00 The cognitive revolution 07:47 Red teaming GPT-4 24:00 Coming to believe in transformative AI 30:14 Is AI depth or breadth most impressive? 42:52 Potential near-term dangers from AI Social Media Links: ➡️ WEBSITE: https://futureoflife.org ➡️ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/FLIxrisk ➡️ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/futureoflifeinstitute/ ➡️ META: https://www.facebook.com/futureoflifeinstitute ➡️ LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/company/future-of-life-institute/
2023-05-0459 minFuture of Life Institute Podcast
Future of Life Institute PodcastNathan Labenz on the Cognitive Revolution, Red Teaming GPT-4, and Potential Dangers of AINathan Labenz joins the podcast to discuss the cognitive revolution, his experience red teaming GPT-4, and the potential near-term dangers of AI. You can read more about Nathan's work at https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Timestamps: 00:00 The cognitive revolution 07:47 Red teaming GPT-4 24:00 Coming to believe in transformative AI 30:14 Is AI depth or breadth most impressive? 42:52 Potential near-term dangers from AI Social Media Links: ➡️ WEBSITE: https://futureoflife.org ➡️ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/FLIxrisk ➡️ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/futureoflifeinstitute/ ➡️ META: https://www.facebook.com/futureoflifeinstitute ➡️ LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/company/future-of-life-institute/
2023-05-0459 min\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisHelping Businesses Use AI with Rachel Woods of The AI ExchangeNathan Labenz sits down with Rachel Woods, founder of The AI Exchange, an AI education platform with over 130,000 subscribers on TikTok. They discuss Rachel’s experience consulting for public and private companies on AI strategy, how teams should think about their AI strategy, and how Rachel uses AI in her own business. Rachel was previously a data scientist at Meta, and a founder of a venture-backed e-commerce startup, where she began to use chatGPT in her startup operations.This episode is the second in a series centered on talking to rising voices in AI media: people who ar...
2023-05-041h 11\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisVC Insights on Investing in Artificial Intelligence with Sarah Guo and Elad Gil of No Priors PodcastNathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg sit down with Sarah Guo and Elad Gil, notable investors and co-hosts of the AI-focused No Priors podcast. They discuss how Sarah and Elad are approaching AI investment opportunities right now, how that differs from how they've thought about investing in the past, where in the stack from hardware to applications they expect to see value accrue, what modes of human-AI interaction they are most interested in, and more.Sarah is the founder of $100M AI-focused venture fund Conviction VC, which she launched last fall. She was previously General...
2023-05-021h 00\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe AI Agent Revolution with Matt Welsh of Fixie.aiNathan Labenz sits down with Matt Welsh, the CEO and co-founder of Fixie.AI which just raised $17M in seed funding. The technology world's attention has turned en masse to AI agents over the last month, but Matt, a former Harvard professor and ex-Google, has been focused on AI agents for longer over at Fixie. The platform is currently in developer preview mode, where developers can build agents and end users can try them.Agents hold the promise of handling not only the core cognitive work, but many of the messy implementation details as well – the searching & fin...
2023-04-251h 00ericmckay4 \'s Listen Later
ericmckay4 's Listen LaterEffective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan Labenz Podcast: "Moment of Zen" (LS 42 · TOP 1.5% what is this?)Episode: Effective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan LabenzPub date: 2023-03-11Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationAnonymous founders of the Effective Accelerationist (e/acc) movement @Bayeslord and Beff Jezoz (@BasedBeff) join Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Nathan Labenz to debate views on AI safety.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hir...
2023-04-252h 11#ThisWeekWithSabir - eCommerce Mastery with Sabir Semerkant
#ThisWeekWithSabir - eCommerce Mastery with Sabir Semerkant#082 Hacking AI for Explosive Video Content Creation: Exclusive Interview with Nathan Labenz, Founder of WaymarkGet ready to turbocharge your video content creation with AI! 🔥🎥 Join us on #ThisWeekWithSabir LIVE on Wednesday, April 19, 2023, at 12pm ET, as we dive deep into the world of AI-powered video creation with Nathan Labenz, founder of Waymark, the game-changing platform revolutionizing video production for small businesses and major advertising platforms alike. 🚀🌐 In this action-packed episode, we'll explore how Waymark is leveraging the latest AI advancements to help businesses craft compelling video content faster and more efficiently than ever before. 💡💼 Nathan will share his expert insights, success stories, and predictions for the future of AI in video conten...
2023-04-191h 03\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisPausing the AI Revolution? With Technologist Jaan TallinnNathan Labenz dives in with Jaan Tallinn, a technologist, entrepreneur (Kazaa, Skype), and investor (DeepMind and more) whose unique life journey has intersected with some of the most important social and technological events of our collective lifetime. Jaan has since invested in nearly 180 startups, including dozens of AI application layer companies and some half dozen startup labs that focus on fundamental AI research, all in an effort to support the teams that he believes most likely to lead us to AI safety, and to have a seat at the table at organizations that he worries might take on too...
2023-04-131h 44\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisWill GPT-4 Cause Economic Transformation?Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg delve into the upcoming economic transformation and the future of work in light of the threshold crossed by GPT-4.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and wh...
2023-04-111h 12\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisAI open letter debate, "pausers", and what we're all scared of with AI with Anton Troynikov and Flo Crivello [Moment of Zen]Anton Troynikov of Chroma and Flo Crivello of Lindy AI join The Cognitive Revolution cohosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg to debate the issues raised in the AI open letter, which advocates for a 6-month pause on AI system trainings.This episode was recorded on March 31st and was first released as a Moment of Zen episode (airing April 1). Subscribe to Moment of Zen for more timely debates like this one!Also, check out the debut of Erik's new long-form interview podcast Upstream, whose guests in the first two...
2023-04-041h 35\
"Moment of Zen"AI open letter debate, "pausers", and what we're all scared of with AI with Anton Troynikov, Flo Crivello, and Nathan LabenzAnton Troynikov of Chroma, Flo Crivello of Lindy AI, and Nathan Labenz of Waymark and co-host of The Cognitive Revolution podcast join Erik Torenberg for a timely debate on the issues raised in the AI open letter which advocates for a 6-month pause on AI system trainings. Dan and Antonio will be back next week. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zenCheck out the debut of Erik's new longform interview podcast Upstream. This coming season features interviews with Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Ezra Sac...
2023-04-011h 30\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisThe Robot Revolution with Keerthana Gopalakrishnan of Google RoboticsNathan Labenz talks to Google Robotics researcher Keerthana Gopalakrishnan (@keerthanpg) about how they train robots at Google, and how robots contextualize their environment and complete tasks through supervised learning. They go deep on integrating language models for commands and how to approach translating them, as well as the importance of robotics safety. Keerthana also shares how we’re using robots to better understand ourselves, personal experiences using AI, and her hopes and fears about AI's impact on society.This episode provides valuable insights into the current state and potential future of robotics and AI, wi...
2023-03-301h 31\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisOpenAI's GPT-4 Discussion with Nathan Labenz and Erik TorenbergIn this episode, hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg delve into the exciting and concerning aspects of GPT4, the latest large multimodal model from OpenAI. Nathan, who was a Red Teamer for GPT4, shares his experience working with the model, using it for real-life scenarios, and how he found it to be human-level rather than human-like intelligence. Nathan also highlights some of its fundamental weaknesses and limitations and shares the most concerning elements of GPT4. They end the episode pondering the arrival of GPT5 and whether we are in AI's "goldilocks moment."We're hiring...
2023-03-281h 24Marketing Against The Grain
Marketing Against The GrainGPT-4 Beta User Reveals What Jobs It Will Destroy In 2023 with Nathan Labenz (#103)Is Google going to get displaced in 2023?Kipp and Kieran are joined by Nathan Labenz (founder at Waymark) to reveal the true power of GPT-4 and the real use cases for your business. Learn the weaknesses in AI, how it can affect current jobs, and why search won’t get disrupted in 2023.Connect with Nathan! Twitter https://twitter.com/labenz  LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/  About Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz is the founder & AI R&D lead at Waymark, a vide...
2023-03-2339 min\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisGPT4 - AI Unleashed on ChinaTalk PodcastHow will GPT4 change the world? How will US-China 'racing dynamics' play out and what are the implications for AI safety? Nathan Labenz was invited to record a special "emergency" episode of ChinaTalk podcast this week to discuss the implications GPT4 will have for policy, economics, and society. Thanks to Jordan Schneider of ChinaTalk, and fellow "AI justice league" guests Zvi Mowshowitz of 'Don't Worry About the Vase' and Matthew Mittelsteadt of Mercatus. We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief o...
2023-03-171h 25The Valmy
The ValmyEffective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan Labenz Podcast: "Moment of Zen" Episode: Effective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan LabenzRelease date: 2023-03-11Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationAnonymous founders of the Effective Accelerationist (e/acc) movement @Bayeslord and Beff Jezoz (@BasedBeff) join Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Nathan Labenz to debate views on AI safety.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, He...
2023-03-132h 11\
"Moment of Zen"Effective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan LabenzAnonymous founders of the Effective Accelerationist (e/acc) movement @Bayeslord and Beff Jezoz (@BasedBeff) join Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Nathan Labenz to debate views on AI safety.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation...
2023-03-112h 11\
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player AnalysisWhy AI Will Cause a Cognitive Revolution with Nathan Labenz and Erik TorenbergWe're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.00:00 Coming Up01:00 The Cognitive Revolution01:20 Sponsor01:39 Intro02:09 Nathan’s path to AI 04:27 Founding Waymark06:56 The future of AI is just starting 10:00 AI dramatically enhances human capabilities 10:50 Why we started The Cognitive Revolution and what to expect14...
2023-02-101h 20\
"Moment of Zen"The AI moment, AI vs crypto: a heated debate with Amjad Masad, Flo Crivello, and Nathan LabenzAmjad Masad (@Amasad), Flo Crivello (@Altimor) and Nathan Labenz (@Labenz) join us for a heated debate on the AI moment. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview of the debate(00:30) Sponsor(0...
2023-01-292h 01Not Another Marketing Podcast
Not Another Marketing PodcastVideo marketing tactics and a dash of Ai with Nathan LabenzWelcome to Not Another Marketing Podcast where I'm talking to Nathan Labenz, the CEO of Waymark, the world's first input-free, automated marketing platform for video so we're talking video marketing & Ai.
2023-01-2300 minDelivering Marketing Joy
Delivering Marketing JoyDelivering Marketing Joy Episode 410 with Nathan LabenzToday on Delivering #MarketingJoy, Kirby Hasseman talks with Nathan Labenz about why video is powerful in marketing, what mistakes most businesses make when creating video, and how to create videos quickly!
2022-09-2818 minZero To 5000
Zero To 5000How To Make it an AI Assisted Experience - Nathan Labenz, WaymarkAnother inspiring conversation on the Zero to 5000 Podcast today.   We were joined by Nathan Labenz, the CEO of Waymark.   We discussed: - Ghost shopping mortgage companies. - Creating traffic during the pandemic. - "How to make it an AI assisted experience." Thanks for Listening. Be sure to join our monthly email. One life-changing email to help you with your mindset, your methods, and your mission each month.
2021-12-141h 10Impact Michigan
Impact MichiganNathan Labenz, CEO WaymarkGraduating from Harvard as part of the "Facebook class," you could say Nathan Labenz is one smart guy. Which would be an understatement. As CEO of Waymark, he's helping democratize video marketing for all businesses. They recently launched their new online store where you can purchase personalized video ads perfect for Facebook and Instagram. Waymark combines art and technology to build agency-quality videos for your business with just the click of a button. Designed by Hollywood producers and customized by their Content API, you can have a ready-to-run video in seconds. Big business campaigns, small business pricing. Check out our...
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