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Nathan Perdriau & Sebastian Bensch
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Blue Sense Podcast
ChatGPT Ads are coming - should you care? - BSD Pod
In this episode, Scott and Nathan break down the real question behind every shiny new ad platform. Is your next best dollar better spent on Meta and Google, or are you just chasing something new?With OpenAI announcing ads inside ChatGPT, and more brands asking about TikTok, Pinterest, Reddit, and YouTube, we unpack how to think about third and fourth channels without blowing up profitability.We cover:• Why “our customers are on TikTok” is not a strategy• The skill gap that gets blamed on platform performance• Why measurement gets harder as you add more c...
2026-02-13
33 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Why Ads Kill Retention Profit
In this episode, Scott and Nathan break down one of the most misunderstood ideas in eCommerce growth. That paid media should be used to drive retention.They explain why most brands overspend on existing customers, why retention ROAS is often misleading, and how to think about repeat revenue through the structure of the business instead of the ad account.In this conversation they cover:• Why paid media is rarely incremental for returning customers• How attribution inflates retention ROAS• The difference between retention in CPG, fashion, and single SKU brands• When spending on exist...
2026-01-30
26 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Why Profitable Brands Go Broke
In this episode, Scott and Nathan break down why profitable eCommerce brands still run out of cash. The conversation focuses on the gap between what looks good on a P&L and what actually keeps a business alive.They unpack why brands can be profitable on paper and still go broke, especially in inventory heavy categories like fashion.Key topics covered:• Cash flow vs profit and why they are not the same thing• How inventory can quietly kill otherwise healthy businesses• Why cutting ad spend is often the worst move d...
2026-01-22
27 min
Blue Sense Podcast
2026 Starts Here: Build a Real Marketing Calendar
In this episode, Scott, Nathan, Gaby, and Ibra dive deep into how to build a smarter marketing calendar for 2026. We tackle why so many brands default to discounting—and how to break that habit with better planning and more creative inputs.Highlights from the conversation:• Why early calendars failed: too many sales, no commercial KPIs• Offers aren’t just discounts—they’re friction reducers• Creative quality often drives the need for discounts• How to map financial targets to calendar moments• The ideal number of revenue peaks (hin...
2026-01-14
39 min
Blue Sense Podcast
AI Isn't Your Moat, Taste Is: '26 Predictions with Nathan + Angus
Scott and Nathan sit down with Angus from MKTG to make clear predictions for eCommerce in 2026.Key themes discussed:• Why organic content will be more important than paid in 2026• The real role of influencers versus in house creators• Why AI lowers the floor but does not raise the ceiling• What happens to agencies as media buying gets commoditised• When in house teams make sense and when they do not• Why finance led marketing is still rare and still a moat• Which brands will win and which will struggle next year• Why reta...
2025-12-17
53 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Stop Blaming Seasonality: How To Win Q1 - BSD Pod Ep 8
In this episode, Scott and Nathan unpack why Q1 feels so difficult and how brands can create momentum instead of blaming seasonality.We cover:• Why demand drops and returns spike after Black Friday• Messaging and offers that work when customers feel wallet fatigue• How to use Q1 as the highest-signal creative testing window• Media buying shifts that rebuild the funnel for Feb and March• How simple product launches or campaigns can create artificial revenue peaksA fast overview of how to pla...
2025-12-10
31 min
Blue Sense Podcast
BFCM Winners + Losers - BSD Pod Episode 7
In this episode Scott, Gaby, and Ibra unpack what actually drove a record-breaking Black Friday across the Blue Sense portfolio. We break down why 26 brands hit all-time highs, how evergreen ads outperformed expectations, and why scalable structures built across Q1–Q3 made the biggest difference in November.Over the weekend our portfolio saw:• Multiple brands hit their first million-dollar months• One brand hit its first $2M month• 26 accounts reach record Black Friday performanceWe walk through how the team:• Used strong evergreen...
2025-12-04
40 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Don't Panic on BFCM! - BSD Pod Episode 6
In this episode, Scott and Nathan break down how to stay calm when BFCM isn’t pacing to plan. We walk through the key decisions operators should make when revenue, efficiency, or creative performance begins to fall behind target.You’ll hear us cover: • How to tell if the issue is forecasting or execution • Why pacing by hour matters more than reacting in real time • How to use clean decision checkpoints throughout the day • Why discount codes hurt conversion rates and how to fix them • When to scale Meta budgets and when to hold • How...
2025-11-26
25 min
Blue Sense Podcast
BSD Pod Ep 5: The Creative Process Behind A New 8-figure Brand
In this episode, Scott and Gaby break down how a women’s fashion brand hit eight figures without increasing ad spend. The win came from a cleaner creative process, better iteration, and a tighter link between data and production.Over the first 90 days the brand saw: • 50 percent growth in acquisition MER • 72 percent growth in new customer revenue • 29 percent drop in new customer acquisition costs • 168 percent lift in contribution marginGaby walks us through how the team: • Identified winning templates, cut creative waste, • Built a predictable weekly production cadence, • and turned chaos into con...
2025-11-19
27 min
Blue Sense Podcast
BSD Pod Episode 4: Strategy Leads Debate 2025
Episode four from Cape Town brings Nathan and Ibra together for one of our most direct strategy sessions. No fluff, just hard truths on what actually drives growth for ecommerce brands.In this episode they break down: • Why most one to five million dollar brands are not ready for an agency • How to tell if your issue is the offer, the creative, or the product • Why attribution is misunderstood and often useless • The real link between profitability, scale, and cash flow • How to build a useful testing roadmap instead of random experiments • When cre...
2025-11-13
1h 09
Blue Sense Podcast
BSD Pod Episode 3: Creative Strategy for 2025-26
Scott sits down with Gaby to unpack the creative systems that drive scale. They discuss the biggest testing mistakes brands make, how to set velocity without sacrificing quality, the formats that consistently win across industries, and how to turn a single founder video into a scalable creative engine.They also dive into Meta’s new diversity and fatigue metrics, planning output via a marketing calendar, what to do when peak season hits, and where AI genuinely fits into modern creative workflows.Chapters00:00 Intro00:30 Creative as the fu...
2025-11-05
29 min
Blue Sense Podcast
BSD Pod Episode 2: Testing for Profit - Strategy Fundamentals for 2025/6
In this episode of @Blue-Sense-Podcast, our host and Head of Growth Scott sits down with Ibra, Lead Strategist at Blue Sense Digital, to unpack the fundamentals of testing, measurement, and strategic decision-making in eCommerce growth.Together, they tackle one of the industry’s biggest challenges: attribution. Ibra shares how brands can move beyond unreliable data and platform metrics to focus on what truly drives incremental growth. From isolating variables and running meaningful experiments, to diagnosing creative and offer performance, this conversation breaks down how to make smarter, data-led marketing decisions that improve business outcomes, not just dashboards.
2025-10-29
29 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Roundtable on The State of eCommerce - Episode 1 Blue Sense Digital Podcast
In the first episode of the newly relaunched Blue Sense Podcast , filmed in October 2025 while the team got together in Cape Town, South Africa, Scott (Head of Growth) hosts Nathan (Co-Founder), Ibra (Lead Strategist), and Gaby (Creative Strategist) to unpack what’s really changing in eCommerce marketing heading into 2026.From declining attribution accuracy to creative fatigue, shrinking margins, and the rise of “back to fundamentals” marketing, this conversation dives deep into: • Why measurement is no longer the marketer’s safety net • The operational and financial blind spots killing profitability • How to scale creative without scaling waste
2025-10-27
28 min
Blue Sense Podcast
The Hidden Death Spiral in eCommerce
In this podcast episode, Nathan discusses the prevalent issue of the 'death spiral' that many e-commerce brands are facing in 2024. He explains how rising customer acquisition costs, coupled with a reliance on returning customers, can mask underlying financial problems. The conversation delves into the importance of cohort analysis, understanding customer acquisition costs, and the impact of attrition on revenue. Nathan emphasises the need for brands to track key metrics to identify potential declines in profitability and offers strategies for recovery and sustainability.Takeaways- Customer acquisition costs are rising, impacting profitability.- Returning customer...
2024-10-30
29 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Navigating Agency Accountability & Black Friday Projections with Josh Tay
In this episode, Nathan and Josh Tay discuss the importance of accountability in agency relationships, the challenges of forecasting retention and sales, and the necessity of setting realistic goals. They delve into financial transparency, especially during Black Friday, and the impact of offer structures on consumer behaviour. The conversation highlights the significance of profitability over revenue and the complexities of branding in a competitive market.TakeawaysAccountability is essential in agency-client relationships.Forecasting retention sales requires a different approach than acquisition.Setting realistic goals is crucial for agency success.Financial transparency fosters trust between agencies and...
2024-10-03
43 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Round 2 Live eCommerce P&L Teardown with Valentin Kuznetcov
In this episode, Nathan and Val dive into a P&L teardown of a business that operates multiple D2C brands. They discuss the importance of accurately structuring the P&L to understand the business's activities and potential to generate profit. They highlight the need to separate and track components of net revenue, such as gross revenue, discounts, returns, and shipping collected. They also emphasise the importance of transitioning from cash accounting to accrual accounting and the challenges of accurately tracking cost of goods sold and inventory. They discuss the significance of tracking transaction fees and the need to...
2024-09-05
1h 02
Blue Sense Podcast
Lessons Learnt Over The Past 6 Months in eCommerce
In this episode, Nathan shares nine lessons learned from working with brands and running a digital marketing agency. The lessons include the importance of cost of delivery, marketing, and operational efficiency, the value of omni-channel distribution for brands approaching $10 million, the ability to fix P&L exports in accounting software, the effectiveness of Meta (Facebook) as a platform compared to Google, the challenges of measuring incremental return on ad spend for small brands, the role of email and SMS as communication channels for retention, the impact of colour variants on conversions, the benefits of manufacturing revenue spikes through a...
2024-08-15
24 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Live eCommerce P&L Teardown with Valentin Kuznetcov
In this episode, Nathan and Valentin dive into a real P&L and discuss the importance of understanding accounting principles and how to read a P&L. They highlight the limitations of a basic P&L structure and the need for a more comprehensive breakdown of revenue and costs. They discuss the impact of discounts and refunds on the business's profitability and the importance of optimising contribution margin. They also touch on the significance of OPEX and the potential for reducing costs to increase profitability. Overall, they emphasise the need for a proper P&L structure to facilitate better...
2024-08-08
39 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Do Email & SMS Create Incremental Profit with Josh Tay
In this episode, Nathan and Josh discuss the incremental revenue available through email and SMS marketing. They emphasise that while email and SMS are important communication channels, the true drivers of retention and revenue are merchandising and operations. They explore the concept of purchase intent and how it affects the effectiveness of email and SMS campaigns. They also delve into the importance of understanding the customer journey, leveraging reviews mining for messaging, and creating novelty and exclusivity through merchandising. They highlight the need for a comprehensive retention strategy that goes beyond email and SMS marketing. In this conversation, Josh...
2024-07-31
59 min
Blue Sense Podcast
10 Brutal Truths of eCommerce
In this episode, Nathan discusses 10 brutal truths of e-commerce for DTC brand owners. The first truth is that reducing ad spend is not the solution to higher operating expenses. Understanding how the P&L works and the flow of revenue is crucial. The second truth is that most accounts are either overspending or underspending, and finding the right balance is key. Attribution tends to overattribute bottom-of-funnel actions and underattribute top-of-funnel efforts. Customer repeat rates are largely influenced by merchandising and operations, not just marketing. Site intent is a better measure of success than click attribution. Buying the right products...
2024-07-25
28 min
Blue Sense Podcast
The Future of Marketing in a One-Click World with Caden Thompson
In this episode, Nathan and Caden discuss various topics related to Google Ads and agency land. Caden shares his background in marketing and how he got into the digital marketing industry. They dive into the concept of Google's Performance Max and its purpose in reducing the barrier of entry for small businesses. They also discuss the challenges and limitations of using Performance Max and how it can be used in conjunction with other channels. The conversation then shifts to the importance of specialization versus broadening focus in agencies, and the difficulties of upskilling large performance marketing teams. They also...
2024-07-18
43 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Enabling Profitable eCommerce Growth with Carla Penn-Kahn
Carla Penn-Kahn shares her experience in the e-commerce space, from working in investments at Credit Suisse to starting her own e-commerce businesses. She discusses the challenges of launching perishables by delivery when delivery was primarily for letters, and the operational complexities involved. The conversation then shifts to the importance of financial operations and unit economics in e-commerce, with a focus on the changing landscape of paid media and the need for strong financial operators. Carla also emphasizes the significance of product selection and category in determining lifetime value and the challenges of building customer loyalty. The discussion concludes with...
2024-07-04
45 min
Blue Sense Podcast
When to Consider Outsourcing to a 3PL with Valentin Kuznetcov
In this podcast episode, Nathan and Val discuss the topic of 3PLs (third-party logistics providers). They cover the factors to consider when deciding whether to use a 3PL, such as cost, volume, and customer service. They also explore the differences between in-house fulfillment and outsourcing to a 3PL, and the considerations for brands with low volume and high ticket products. Val provides insights into the 3PL landscape in Australia and the United States, and emphasizes the importance of conducting a cost-benefit analysis and asking the right questions when evaluating 3PL partners.TakeawaysThe decision...
2024-06-27
32 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Q&A Answering Listeners Questions: LTV, Creative Testing & More
In this episode, Nathan answers questions from listeners about budget allocation for retention, the growth of BlueSense Digital, the effectiveness of Advantage Plus, TikTok advertising, server-side tracking, and the importance of creative testing. He emphasises the importance of merchandising in driving lifetime value and suggests that technical competence is key to agency growth. He also provides insights into the volume of creative testing required for effective advertising.TakeawaysLifetime value is largely influenced by the merchandising and quality of the product, rather than marketing efforts alone.Technical competence is crucial for agency...
2024-06-20
33 min
Blue Sense Podcast
How to Align Google & Meta Ads With Your Business Goals
In this episode, Nathan discusses how to align Google and Meta campaign builds with business and financial goals. He emphasises the importance of understanding the incentive structure of big tech advertising platforms, which is to maximise advertiser revenue. He also highlights the complexity of customer journeys and the need to allocate budgets strategically. Nathan shares insights on SOP creation, emphasising the importance of data-backed SOPs and having a mental model that explains why. He provides specific strategies for Google and Facebook campaign optimisation and emphasises the correlation between performance and top-line revenue.TakeawaysAligning...
2024-06-13
36 min
Blue Sense Podcast
How to Scale An eCommerce Brand to $100k per Month
In this episode, Nathan shares his advice for ecommerce brands aiming to reach $100k a month. He covers the fundamentals of scaling, customer acquisition, resource allocation, and the benefits of being under $100k per month. Nathan emphasises the importance of understanding the business equation, effective resource allocation, and the role of creative in scaling. He also discusses the misconceptions around return on ad spend and the significance of tracking CAC and first purchase contribution margin. In this conversation, Nathan shares valuable insights on scaling an e-commerce business to 100K a month. He discusses key metrics, common mistakes, and actionable...
2024-06-06
1h 00
Blue Sense Podcast
Mastering Google Ads in 2024 with Michael Nadalin
In this episode, Nathan interviews Michael Nadalin, the founder of Market Lead, a niche Google Ads agency in Australia. They discuss Michael's background and the growth of his agency, as well as the importance of expanding scope beyond Google Ads. They also delve into the effectiveness of Google's Performance Max campaign type and the challenges of being a Google media buyer in today's evolving landscape. The conversation covers various topics related to account management, client communication, understanding business goals, and the importance of financial knowledge in marketing. Follow Michael on LinkedIn Here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/m...
2024-05-30
47 min
Blue Sense Podcast
The State of eCommerce in 2024 with Brendan Gillen
In this episode, Nathan interviews Brendan Gillen, an e-commerce expert and founder of Fight Gear Direct and the e-Commerce Academy. They discuss the performance of e-commerce in 2024 and the importance of innovation and adaptation in the industry. The conversation highlights the need for e-commerce operators to understand their numbers, focus on profitability, and find ways to increase average order value. The conversation covers topics such as branding, measuring success, customer acquisition and retention, and the use of AI in e-commerce. Engage and follow Brendan here: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@theecomacademyEcom Academy: https://ec...
2024-05-23
45 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Building A Word-Class Agency with Kasim Aslam
In this episode, Nathan, Sebastian and Kasim discuss what it takes to build a world-class successful agency. They touch on topics such as the importance of talent acquisition, the transition from artisan thinking to systems thinking, and the challenges of scaling the sales portion of the agency. Kasim shares his experience of scaling Solutions 8 and emphasises the need for margin control, niche specialisation, and investing in international labour. He also provides advice for individuals looking to excel within a systems-led organisation, including focusing on high-value tasks and proactivity. The conversation explores the framework for scaling an agency, the importance...
2024-05-16
53 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Becoming First Order Profitable with Valentin Kuznetcov
In this episode, Nathan and Val discuss the importance of first-order profitability in e-commerce businesses. The podcast is structured into three sections, firstly setting the scene, secondly how to become first order profitable, and finally how to operate a repeat purchase model. TakeawaysFirst order profitability is crucial in e-commerce businesses to avoid financing losses through repeat customers, investors, or creditors.Accurate gross margin calculations and efficient marketing are essential for achieving first order profitability.Understanding unit economics, including average order value, contribution margin, gross margin, and customer acquisition cost, is key...
2024-05-09
55 min
Blue Sense Podcast
The Ego-Driven Mistake Most Service Providers Make
In this episode, Sebastian and Nathan discuss the ego-driven mistake that most service providers make. They emphasise the importance of putting clients above oneself and maintaining an orientation towards the client. They highlight the dangers of pride and self-orientation, such as neglecting client needs, losing trust, and ultimately losing clients. On the other hand, they explain that by putting clients first, demonstrating a passion for their business, and going the extra mile, service providers can build trust, admiration, and long-term client relationships.TakeawaysPut your clients above yourself and maintain an orientation towards the...
2024-05-02
28 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Storytelling & Branding with Matthew Banks
In this episode, Nathan interviews Matthew Banks, the founder of Merchants of the Sun, a sustainable jewellery brand. They discuss the story behind the brand, the importance of creative direction and branding in the jewellery industry, and how Merchants of the Sun stands out in a crowded market. They also talk about the brand's sustainability initiatives and the challenges of scaling an e-commerce business while maintaining the brand's ethos and quality. Matthew shares his insights on building a community, launching new products, and the unexpected challenges of running an e-commerce business.Takeaways...
2024-04-25
37 min
Blue Sense Podcast
The Death Spiral for Scaling Agencies
SummaryIn this episode, Nathan and Sebastian discuss the two levels of value within an agency and the three major problems that arise during scaling. They emphasise the importance of understanding the agency business model for any business owner who may work with or be approached by an agency. They explain how value is generated through the solution of problems and how agencies achieve economies of scale. They also provide insights on assessing the quality of internal systems and the accountability of agency employees. The conversation discusses three major challenges that agencies face when scaling...
2024-04-18
51 min
Blue Sense Podcast
Zero Party Data in D2C eCommerce with Jon Ivanco
In this episode, Nathan and John Ivanco (founder of Formtoro) discuss the concept of D2C as a channel, the cost of retail and ad costs, the commoditisation of products, the role of media figures in pushing brands, the value of zero-party data, and the overhyped KPIs in marketing. They also delve into the challenges of attribution and the limitations of attribution software. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for a customer-centric approach and a focus on branding, messaging, and understanding the customer journey.TakeawaysD2C should be seen as a channel rather t...
2024-04-11
1h 02