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Training DataWhy IDEs Won't Die in the Age of AI Coding: Zed Founder Nathan SoboNathan Sobo has spent nearly two decades pursuing one goal: building an IDE that combines the power of full-featured tools like JetBrains with the responsiveness of lightweight editors like Vim. After hitting the performance ceiling with web-based Atom, he founded Zed and rebuilt from scratch in Rust with GPU-accelerated rendering. Now with 170,000 active developers, Zed is positioned at the intersection of human and AI collaboration. Nathan discusses the Agent Client Protocol that makes Zed "Switzerland" for different AI coding agents, and his vision for fine-grained edit tracking that enables permanent, contextual conversations anchored directly to code—a collaborative layer th...
2025-12-0240 min
Deployed: The AI Product PodcastHow Zed Built An Incredible Agentic Code Editor: A Conversation with Nathan SoboOn this episode we talk with Nathan Sobo, co-founder and CEO of Zed, the high-performance code editor that's reimagining how AI agents can improve developer workflows. Nathan shares lessons from building one of the most natural agentic coding experiences available, including why investing up front to automate the feedback loop to improve the quality of AI systems is worth it. He also shares some great product design insights that go beyond the code editor -- including how they were able to weave an AI agent into the UX of their already-collaborative product (just like a human collaborator), a...
2025-06-0446 min
Changelog InterviewsBuilding Zed's agentic editingNathan Sobo is back talking about the next big thing for Zed—agentic editing! You now have a full-blown AI-native editor to play with. Collaborate with agents at 120fps in a natively multiplayer IDE.
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2025-05-071h 52The Changelog: Software Development, Open SourceBuilding Zed's agentic editing (Interview)Nathan Sobo is back talking about the next big thing for Zed—agentic editing! You now have a full-blown AI-native editor to play with. Collaborate with agents at 120fps in a natively multiplayer IDE.
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2025-05-071h 52Changelog Master FeedBuilding Zed's agentic editing (Changelog Interviews #640)Nathan Sobo is back talking about the next big thing for Zed—agentic editing! You now have a full-blown AI-native editor to play with. Collaborate with agents at 120fps in a natively multiplayer IDE.
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2025-05-071h 52
Open Source Startup PodcastE162: The AI Code Editor War with ZedNathan Sobo is the Founder of Zed, the next-gen code editor that enables high-performance collaboration - powered by AI. Open source zed has 53K Stars on GitHub and is used by engineers at Vercel, Apple, Anthropic, and GitLab. Prior to founding Zed, Nathan created the editor Atom at GitHub which reached 1M+ active users.
Zed has raised from investors including Redpoint and Root Ventures.
In this episode, we dive into Nathan's deep history with code editors including the widely adopted GitHub editor Atom, the decision to make Zed open source (and the massive 10x growth...
2025-01-0730 min
Happy Path Programming#105 Nathan Sobo's Pursuit of the Ultimate Code EditorNathan Sobo is co-founder of Zed, a super-fast, collaborative, AI-powered, code editor. We chat about his journey to build the ultimate code editor: lessons learned from building Atom, Electron and its challenges, CRDTs, Rust native GPU GUIs, AI Code Assistants, and more CRDTs.
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2024-10-131h 23
Developer VoicesBuilding the Zed Text Editor (with Nathan Sobo)I’ve often wondered how you build a text editor. Like many software projects, it’s a simple idea at the core with an almost infinite scope for features. How do you build a solid foundation to expand on? Which features matter for launch? And how do you hope to satisfy the needs of every programmer, working in every language?My guest for this episode is Nathan Sobo. He’s tackled this problem once before with the Atom editor, and he’s back older & wiser with Zed - a new editor written completely from scratch in Rust. It has a...
2024-06-051h 23
Software UnscriptedNative UIs without Electron - with Nathan SoboRichard talks with Nathan Sobo, founder of Zed Industries (which creates the high-performance Zed code editor) about his time as an early developer on the Atom code editor, including how that project led to Electron. They then discuss how the Zed team has created GPUI, which uses native operating system APIs for events and goes straight to the graphics card for rendering. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2024-05-041h 16
Changelog & FriendsZed's secret sauceThe Zed text editor has come a long way since Nathan Sobo came on the show last year to tell us about this follow-up to Atom. Zed is open source now, has the underpinnings of collaboration built in, is beginning its journey toward full extensibility, is coming to Linux soon & shows serious promise if Nathan’s team can mix their secret sauce just right.
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2024-03-011h 31Changelog Master FeedZed's secret sauce (Changelog & Friends #33)The Zed text editor has come a long way since Nathan Sobo came on the show last year to tell us about this follow-up to Atom. Zed is open source now, has the underpinnings of collaboration built in, is beginning its journey toward full extensibility, is coming to Linux soon & shows serious promise if Nathan’s team can mix their secret sauce just right.
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2024-03-011h 31The Changelog: Software Development, Open SourceZed's secret sauce (Friends)The Zed text editor has come a long way since Nathan Sobo came on the show last year to tell us about this follow-up to Atom. Zed is open source now, has the underpinnings of collaboration built in, is beginning its journey toward full extensibility, is coming to Linux soon & shows serious promise if Nathan’s team can mix their secret sauce just right.
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2024-03-011h 31
Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, NeatBuilding Zed: A Code Editor for Performance and Collaboration with Nathan SoboNathan Sobo, Founder of Zed Industries, is a founding member of the team that built Atom at GitHub. With nine years of experience under his belt, Nathan made the bold decision to leave GitHub and start a new venture: building Zed, a code editor that captures his vast knowledge and ambitious goals.Nathan opens up about the frustrations he faced with web technology, specifically Electron, which was initially developed to construct Atom but ended up being a resource-hungry burden. Zed, on the other hand, aims to be a more streamlined and efficient code editor by harnessing the power...
2023-06-011h 05
Semaphore UncutNathan Sobo on The Future of Collaborative Code EditingGithub has pushed the limits of collaboration in coding as a platform for discussing, sharing, and participating in code and projects. Yet, new tools are looking to push the limit even forward. Zed is a collaborative code editor that offers real-time interaction among teammates inside a code development environment. Its creator, Nathan Sobo, envisions a revolutionary tool that will impact social coding collaboration similar to how GitHub has revolutionized file system snapshots. In this episode, we explore the backend development of Zed and Nathan’s insights on creating a performance-optimized system in Rust.Listen to...
2023-04-1818 min
Software Engineering DailyMulti-player coding with Nathan SoboCode editors are complex and demanding pieces of software that are both essential tools and constant companions for developers. Today, we are interviewing Nathan Sobo to hear about Zed, a code editor focused on “multiplayer” experiences, performance and a streamlined, minimalist design.Nathan Sobo was a member of the Atom editor team at GitHub, which worked on the (now-deprecated) Atom code editor. He will share his thoughts on Rust, the impact of very low-latency collaborative coding on happiness, and how to turn an authoring environment into a first-class concern.Sponsorship inquiries: sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com
2023-04-1852 minChangelog InterviewsGoodbye Atom. Hello Zed.This week we’re talking with Nathan Sobo about his next big thing. Nathan is known for his work on the Atom editor while at GitHub. But his work wasn’t finished when he left, so…he started Zed, a high-performance multiplayer editor that’s engineered for performance. And today, Nathan talks us through all the details.
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2023-03-151h 27The Changelog: Software Development, Open SourceGoodbye Atom. Hello Zed. (Interview)This week we’re talking with Nathan Sobo about his next big thing. Nathan is known for his work on the Atom editor while at GitHub. But his work wasn’t finished when he left, so…he started Zed, a high-performance multiplayer editor that’s engineered for performance. And today, Nathan talks us through all the details.
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2023-03-151h 27
Changelog Master FeedGoodbye Atom. Hello Zed. (The Changelog #531)This week we’re talking with Nathan Sobo about his next big thing. Nathan is known for his work on the Atom editor while at GitHub. But his work wasn’t finished when he left, so…he started Zed, a high-performance multiplayer editor that’s engineered for performance. And today, Nathan talks us through all the details.
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2023-03-151h 27
South Baltimore Now!SoBo Spotlight: Discussing Baltimore's Bid to Host the 2026 World CupIn this Episode of SoBo Spotlight Nathan and Kevin are joined by Terry Hasseltine, the Executive Director of Maryland's Sports Commission. He is leading Baltimore's efforts to be a host city in the 2026 FIFA World Cup which is taking place in the United States, Mexico, and Canada. We discuss Baltimore's chances to be one of the 10 American hosts cities, why M&T Bank Stadium and the surrounding area are such an asset to the bid, what the festivities would be like if the World Cup came to Baltimore, and additional sporting events eyed for the City.
2020-08-2536 min
Hiking ThruHiking Thru - Episode #80 BB aka Nathan HankesBB, known off trail as Nathan Hankes, came back from Iraq heart set on thru hiking. Convincing his brother to join him, they SOBO’d the AT in 2009 from which sprang his book “Waking Up On The Appalachian Trail.” In this episode, we talk about how the trail helped him process his experiences in Iraq, the dichotomy of being a slave to the mileage versus taking breaks to be present, and the importance of finding your nutritional sweet spot.
2020-07-1500 min
Backpacker Radio#21 | Nathan "Puma" Bauman on His 18-Month Adventure, Photography Tips, & The Best Trail Magic ItemsWhat does it take to turn a thru-hike turns into an 18-month adventure? That's the central theme of today's show, as the Cinnamon Connection is joined by Nathan "Puma" Bauman- who, after hiking the Appalachian Trail, next hiked on the Continental Divide Trail, Long Trail, and Pacific Crest Trail within a year and a half span. We talk about the differences between the three triple crown trails, what it's like to quit on a thru-hike, why the Long Trail is the most difficult trail Puma's encountered, and some tips for aspiring trail-photographers. We chat briefly about the 2018 AT Hiker...
2018-10-191h 43Changelog InterviewsThe Story of AtomNathan Sobo, founding member of the Atom editor team at GitHub, joined the show take us all the way back to the beginning of Atom to learn where it came from, the founding team, the problem it solves, on through to shipping 1.0 and beyond.
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2017-02-241h 13The Changelog: Software Development, Open SourceThe Story of Atom (Interview)Nathan Sobo, founding member of the Atom editor team at GitHub, joined the show take us all the way back to the beginning of Atom to learn where it came from, the founding team, the problem it solves, on through to shipping 1.0 and beyond.
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2017-02-241h 13
Ruby on Rails Podcast101: Nathan SoboThis episode was originally published on April 22, 2008.
Nathan Sobo of Pivotal Labs talks about Treetop, a cutting-edge parser written in Ruby.
2009-04-2321 min
The Ruby on Rails PodcastEpisode 34: 101: Nathan SoboThis episode was originally published on April 22, 2008.
Nathan Sobo of Pivotal Labs talks about Treetop, a cutting-edge parser written in Ruby.
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2009-04-2321 minRuby on Rails Podcast - mp4Nathan Sobo - Ruby on Rails PodcastNathan Sobo of Pivotal Labs talks about Treetop, a cutting-edge parser written in Ruby.
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2008-04-2200 minNathan Sobo - Ruby on Rails PodcastNathan Sobo of Pivotal Labs talks about Treetop, a cutting-edge parser written in Ruby.
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