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Flex ForwardDeniz Kilic: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetFrom civil engineering to civil litigation, Deniz Kilic’s career journey is anything but ordinary. In this episode, Deniz joins Nic Espanet to share how his background in engineering shaped his legal career and why he's passionate about solving problems efficiently—not perfectly. He opens up about immigrating from Turkey, building a life in Texas, and how failure and growth go hand-in-hand.
Deniz also discusses the importance of creative thinking, seeing challenges from multiple perspectives, and how stepping outside your comfort zone can drive real progress. Whether he's mentoring aspiring lawyers or dreaming about launching a nonprofit, his...
2025-12-2413 min
Flex ForwardJoseph Perlman: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Dr. Joseph Perlman, a board-certified plastic surgeon with over 40 years of experience, to explore how plastic surgery and regenerative medicine are evolving to meet the needs of today’s aging population. Based in The Woodlands, TX, Dr. Perlman shares insights from his decades-long career, his approach to individualized patient care, and how his practice is setting itself apart in a competitive industry.
Dr. Perlman also dives into why he founded the Texas Institute for Anti-Aging Research, blending cosmetic surgery with hormone therapy, stem ce...
2025-12-2325 min
Flex ForwardRyan Mallory: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetWhat happens when a successful cardiologist steps off the traditional career path to reclaim his time, freedom, and family life? In this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with Dr. Ryan Mallory, an interventional cardiologist and founder of Halftime Freedom, to explore how he's redefined success on his terms.
Ryan shares his transition from a full-time employed physician to a 1099 locums lifestyle—working just 10 to 14 days a month while creating time and financial freedom through strategic short-term rentals and tax-efficient investing. He discusses how he uses geographic arbitrage to maximize income, how he's he...
2025-12-2219 min
Flex ForwardAlex Gimore: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this powerful episode, Nic Espanet sits down with Alex Gilmore, co-owner of CDR Construction & Roofing, to explore his journey from early struggles to entrepreneurial resilience. Alex opens up about overcoming addiction, supporting a brother through repeated battles with cancer, and navigating financial and legal chaos—all while building a successful construction company from scratch.
Listeners will hear how CDR Construction rose from the ashes of family and financial setbacks, why transparency and customer service are at the heart of their approach, and how Alex’s latest project—a contractor-focused app called Contractor Square—is aiming to build a...
2025-12-1920 min
Flex ForwardScott Bullington: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet is joined by Scott Bullington, founder of Integrated Medical Services. With over 30 years of experience, Scott shares what makes his healthcare consulting firm different: a deeply personalized, transparent approach to medical billing and business coaching for medical practices.
Scott discusses the business side of healthcare — from helping doctors realize they’re running a business, not just a clinic, to teaching them to understand financial reports and make smarter decisions. He highlights why meeting clients where they are, with adaptable systems and ongoing coaching, is crucial to success.
2025-12-1822 min
Flex ForwardGreg Roberts: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Greg Roberts, founder of Funding Your Way, to discuss how he's helping business owners access capital—especially when banks say no. Greg breaks down how his agency supports both startups and established companies, dives into the niche of business expense reduction, and shares why the human side of lending is what drives him most.
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2025-12-1711 min
Flex ForwardSteve Patrick: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with Steve Patrick, CEO of Level the Playing Field LLC, to dive into the complex world of insurance claims — and how contractors can negotiate better outcomes for their clients.
With nearly three decades in the industry, Steve shares his journey from paramedic to contractor, to claims adjuster, and finally to educator and entrepreneur. His mission? Training contractors to handle even the most difficult claims adjusters with confidence, professionalism, and most importantly, the right mindset.
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2025-12-0521 min
Flex ForwardKyle Shafer: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Kyle Shafer, founder of Zera Music Company, to explore how passion for music and a heart for transformation led to building a thriving business from the ground up.
Kyle shares how his journey from a music education student to entrepreneur began with a desire to elevate both students and instructors. He dives into the challenges of launching a business with no formal background in business, the growth of his in-home and online music lesson service across DFW, and his company’s commitment to a...
2025-12-0429 min
Flex ForwardHardik Chodavadia: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetDr. Hardik Chodavadia, co-founder of Enamel Dentistry, joins Nic Espanet to share his entrepreneurial journey from his first practice in 2016 to launching his 10th location. Hardik discusses the value of authentic relationships in dentistry, why transparency matters more than ever, and how embracing communication—not just operations—led to exponential growth.
They dive into:
The importance of building trust with patients and team members
Lessons learned from hiring missteps and how leadership defines culture
Why focusing on transparency in billing and communication is transforming patient expectations
Hardik’s biggest regret...
2025-12-0319 min
Flex ForwardJohn Schissler: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetNic Espanet sits down with entrepreneur John Schissler, who dives into his journey of building a thriving franchise business. From taking a leap into an industry he’d never worked in, to scaling operations and building community-driven locations, John shares the mindset, values, and strategies that have helped him succeed.
They explore how John prioritized human connection and community involvement in an industry often driven by speed and transactions. You’ll hear about the power of building strong relationships—both with customers and employees—and how embracing discomfort can fuel personal and professional growth.
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2025-12-0217 min
Flex ForwardShane Thomas: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet reconnects with Shane Thomas, co-founder of Catalyst Equity Partners. Shane shares his journey from early investments in Class C properties to navigating complex financing and strategy shifts in today’s multifamily real estate market.
Shane gives listeners a candid look at the lessons he's learned since launching Catalyst in 2017, managing over 2,000 units as lead GP, and weathering recent industry-wide challenges. He emphasizes the importance of transparency with investors, long-term thinking, and building a resilient team. Shane also shares his outlook on why now may be the be...
2025-12-0116 min
Flex ForwardNick Lee: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetNick Lee, founder of Iceberg Cabinets, joins Nic Espanet on this episode of the Flex Forward Podcast to share the story behind his unique role as a cabinet and shelter specialist in the telecom world. From the roadside cabinets that power our internet connections to the massive nationwide push for rural broadband, Nick gives an eye-opening look into a side of tech infrastructure most of us never think about.
He talks about designing smarter cabinets that field techs actually want to use, how resilience and adaptability helped grow his company, and his creative take on passive income...
2025-11-0618 min
Flex ForwardDuke Vashisht: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode, host Nic Espanet chats with Duke Vashisht—an aerospace expert, strategic advisor, and global connector. Duke brings a fascinating blend of experience across continents, having worked in aerospace, nuclear, and now space investment. He discusses how growing up in Haryana, India, shaped his engineering curiosity, which led to a career that has spanned Europe, Asia, and now the U.S.
Duke shares insights into aerospace innovation, the evolving space ecosystem in Texas, and why Houston is ripe for real estate and tech crossover. He dives into the importance of intentional living, the power of si...
2025-11-0528 min
Flex ForwardGabriel Griess: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this inspiring episode, Gabriel Griess joins Nic Espanet to share his powerful story of transformation—from a Nebraska farm boy with dreams of flying, to an Air Force veteran, to co-founder of Excel Medical Staffing. Gabriel opens up about the highs and lows of entrepreneurship, the influence of military values in business, and a deeply personal story of faith and family resilience as his daughter battled life-threatening health challenges.
Gabriel also shares insights into creating multiple income streams, what sets his veteran-owned staffing company apart, and the heart behind his upcoming book, The Results Tree. It's a...
2025-11-0420 min
Flex ForwardCarson Jones: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetOn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet chats with Carson Jones, a commercial real estate broker who has shifted from multifamily investments to oil and gas—and is now eyeing opportunities to re-enter the real estate market.
Carson brings sharp economic insights to the table, unpacking complex market shifts and explaining how global factors like job cuts, tariffs, and deportation trends impact housing demand and cap rates. From data center development in Tennessee to industrial investments in North Texas, Carson shares where he sees the most promising opportunities right now.
Nic and Ca...
2025-10-3017 min
Flex ForwardNicholas Miller: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetNicholas Miller joins Nic Espanet to share his unique path from growing up on a ranch to becoming a specialized attorney for land and mineral owners in Texas. As a partner at Graves Dougherty, Nicholas brings years of experience and a personal passion to helping legacy landowners make smart decisions about their property—from oil and gas to solar and wind.
In this episode, Nicholas opens up about the deep roots of his ranching family, the shift into renewable energy deals, and how mentorship and flexibility have shaped his successful legal career. He also shares important insights on...
2025-10-2935 min
Flex ForwardCharles Gills: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Charles Gills, Executive Director at Platt Richmond, to explore his inspiring journey through the legal industry. Charles began his career with just $100 in his pocket and a job delivering documents to courthouses. Today, he leads operations at a fast-growing law firm.
Charles shares how saying “yes” to every opportunity, recognizing mentorship moments, and thinking creatively helped him grow in his career. He also talks about streamlining operations to save firms tens of thousands of dollars, writing for legal trade publications, and how he brok...
2025-10-2815 min
Flex ForwardJonathan Nichols: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with Jonathan Nichols, co-founder of Apogee Capital, to explore his inspiring journey from engineering to real estate. Jonathan reveals how a shared interest in finding a "paying hobby" with his wife Paula led to building a multifamily real estate investment company.
He dives into how their careful approach to financing—favoring fixed-rate debt—set them apart early on, and how staying active in today’s market gives them a competitive edge. Jonathan also opens up about the challenges of transitioning from engineering to business, the real w...
2025-10-2313 min
Flex ForwardDan Brisse: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetFrom the snowy slopes to scaling multifamily portfolios, Dan Brisse’s journey is one of relentless determination and reinvention. In this episode, Dan sits down with Nic Espanet to share how his dreams of becoming a professional snowboarder evolved into a career as a successful multifamily real estate investor and co-founder of Granite Towers Equity Group.
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2025-10-2220 min
Flex ForwardZachary Montgomery: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Zachary Montgomery—an attorney, CPA, fraud examiner, adjunct professor, and founder of Montgomery Legal. Zachary shares how he’s combined his legal and financial backgrounds to serve clients in a more holistic, one-stop-shop manner for tax, estate planning, and business-related legal issues.
He opens up about his unique career path, the challenges of not fitting into traditional law firm molds, and how his background has become his biggest asset. From discussions on the importance of financial literacy for all professions to how faith guid...
2025-10-2117 min
Multifamily InsightsFrom Healthcare to Apartment Operator with Nic Espanet, Ep. 757Nic Espanet is the founder of Flex Equity Group and host of the Flex Forward Podcast. After two decades as a physical therapist, Nic transitioned into real estate—starting with passive investments before becoming a lead general partner. He's now led eight out of ten multifamily deals across Texas, with a focus on operational systems, investor communication, and market strategy. Through his podcast and syndication work, he helps others build freedom through clarity, consistency, and resilience. Make sure to download our free guide, 7 Questions Every Passive Investor Should Ask, here. ...
2025-10-1742 min
Flex ForwardOctober Ambrose: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with October Ambrose, Vice President of People Partnerships and Engagement at Central Health in Texas. October shares her inspiring journey through healthcare leadership, from direct patient care to leading HR and operations across the organization. She opens up about her non-traditional career path, her dedication to mentorship, and how authenticity, curiosity, and flexibility have shaped her success.
October also discusses how taking career risks, embracing vulnerability, and prioritizing culture within teams are key to thriving in leadership. Her insights into professional growth, community impact, and...
2025-10-1710 min
Carson's Corner: Commercial Real EstateNic Espanet – Multifamily Meets Data CentersWhen multifamily housing feeds off the data center boom, it’s a win-win.In this episode, I sit down with Nic Espanet with Flex Equity Group, to unpack his latest acquisition in Abilene, TX and why the arrival of data centers is creating massive upside for investors, residents, and the local economy.Nic has been improving communities for years. Every time his team renovates a multifamily complex, they transform an entire neighborhood:-Deferred maintenance remediated-Community spaces refreshed-Amenities added or upgraded-Interiors modernized-Neighbor-focused ga...
2025-10-1626 min
Flex ForwardShauna Zamarripa: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this conversation, Shauna explains why data isn’t just charts and graphs—it’s storytelling with a human at the center. She walks us through finding co-occurring diagnoses (like diabetes and bipolar disorder), the impact of meds that interact, and how a whole-person view helps care teams treat people, not symptoms. We dig into her “Member 360” initiative, how AI speeds clinical context, and the mindset shift from reporting numbers to driving action. We also cover her backstory as a teenage mom who taught herself to code, her leadership style for developing analysts, and how to turn datasets into decisions...
2025-10-1618 min
Flex ForwardNick Lamaison: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetNick walks us through his journey from Southern California to the University of Tennessee, UTEP, and a stint playing in Germany. He explains how corporate operations gave him “business 101,” then how he shifted to entrepreneurship—launching Lamaison Holdings and The Lamaison Group in real estate, and now the “Victory Lap” podcast.
We dig into mindset: building a healthy relationship with pain, keeping morale high, moving fast with ideas (ship at 80%, improve the last 20% with feedback), and leading teams with high standards plus real compassion. Nick also shares his approach to passive income: go all-in to create value first, then diver...
2025-10-1524 min
Flex ForwardJoseph Lopez: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetNic Espanet welcomes Joseph Lopez, an experienced real estate investor and founder of Texas Growth Advisors, to talk about the strategic mindset required to grow in today’s shifting real estate market. Joseph shares how he transitioned from military and law enforcement into multifamily syndication, new construction, and commercial real estate. He discusses how investor mindsets must evolve with market conditions, why passive income isn't completely passive, and how bulk buying and in-house construction teams have been game changers for his business.
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2025-10-1422 min
Flex ForwardScott Hollrah: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetScott Hollrah, founder of VENN Technology, joins Nic to talk about building an integration-first consultancy that started in his home office and now operates from Grapevine, Texas. Scott explains why VENN leads with integration projects before CRM work, and how “delighted partners” became their core value and referral engine (featuring their unforgettable mascot, Bjorn the Yeti).
They dig into the human side of technical projects—extracting real requirements by asking precise questions, “peeling the onion,” and translating vague goals into actionable data flows. Scott shares a mentor’s advice that shaped his career: the best consultants don’t have the bes...
2025-10-1317 min
Flex ForwardAmanda Larson: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode, Nic Espanet sits down with Amanda Larson, founder of AMAX Equity and an experienced commercial real estate investor with a background in engineering and construction. Amanda shares her transition from corporate to full-time investing, highlighting how she helps people diversify out of the stock market and into passive real estate investments—especially those in the oil and gas industry.
They dive into Amanda’s approach to underwriting, the role of math and data in her investment decisions, and the value of leaning into your strengths. She also talks about the power of passive income, the...
2025-10-0911 min
Flex ForwardChihiro Kurokawa: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetNic and Chihiro dive into the leap from corporate life to entrepreneurship, and how “owning your outcomes” brings both freedom and stress. Chihiro explains ZT Corporate’s lower-middle-market focus, why they operate as a fundless sponsor, and what makes them different as direct operators.
They unpack hold periods (from 9 months to 12 years), what real relationship-based business looks like, and why monthly, transparent investor updates matter most when a deal goes sideways. Chihiro also makes the case for becoming a well-diversified LP across operators and asset classes, plus a quick nod to his show, Beyond Stocks, and an upcoming trip t...
2025-10-0918 min
Flex ForwardMel Stewart: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetMel Stewart went from Olympic podiums to TV analyst to successful screenwriter—then built SwimSwam into a 24/7 global operation with 100+ contributors and a powerful data business trusted by major networks. He explains the lucky break that rocketed them to #1 in seven weeks, why relentless work ethic matters, and how a painful Olympic loss shaped his decision-making in business. Mel also opens up about building “passive” revenue (like an automated global jobs board), his mentor network, and what’s ahead as LA 2028 approaches—including longer-form conversations with entrepreneurs and club owners across aquatics.
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2025-10-0820 min
Flex ForwardDarren Skinner: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this conversation, Darren Skinner, Talent Acquisition Business Partner at Easy Fiber, unpacks how his team supports rapid growth across multiple markets (Houston, TX; Albuquerque & Santa Fe, NM; Kent, WA—with a fourth market in the Midwest on the way). He explains how door-to-door sales sharpened his ability to connect with candidates, why “time kills all deals” in recruiting, and how longer, human pre-screens lead to better culture fits.
Darren also talks through lessons from the pandemic-era hiring swings, staying resilient amid mass TA layoffs, and setting goals you can actually measure. He closes with thoughts on side h...
2025-10-0716 min
Flex ForwardRuben Ortiz: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetNic and Ruben go deep on what really sets a contractor apart: proactive communication, transparency, and doing exactly what you said you’d do. Ruben opens up about his path—from working with his dad in construction to launching his own firm in 2014—plus the detours, doubts, and breakthroughs along the way. They cover networking that turns into real partnerships, habits for self-improvement, and why he continues to invest in multifamily for the long game. These notes prioritize clear takeaways and searchable keywords to help new listeners find this episode.
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2025-10-0620 min
Flex ForwardCody Payne: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Cody Payne, Senior VP at Colliers, to talk about his journey in commercial real estate and his expertise in the growing small bay industrial sector. With over 18 years in the business, Cody shares what sets his team apart, the challenges he’s faced, and why persistence is key in a fully commissioned sales career.
Cody also opens up about managing anxiety, the importance of health and routine, and how books like The 10X Rule have shaped his approach to sales. The conversation dives in...
2025-10-0311 min
Flex ForwardTodd Dexheimer: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetWhat’s this episode about?
On this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with real estate investor and entrepreneur Todd Dexheimer of Endurus Capital. Todd shares his journey from flipping houses to managing a multifamily portfolio worth over half a billion dollars. You'll hear why he believes in long-term value, how he chooses deals, and what he's doing to bring property management in-house.
Why should you listen?
If you're looking to grow in the multifamily space, create passive income, or just learn from someone who's done the work—this episode is p...
2025-10-0125 min
Flex ForwardMarc Nathan: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with Marc Nathan, Senior Director of Market Development at Michael Best. Known as a “market connector,” Marc shares how building authentic relationships has shaped his career in tech, startups, and consumer packaged goods.
Marc reveals his simple but powerful “okay power” for networking, why remembering names is the ultimate superpower, and how trust is the foundation of business development. He also opens up about his career pivot from tech to consumer goods and explains why building a personal brand is about connection—not just your job title...
2025-10-0114 min
Flex ForwardSuresh Narayanan: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this conversation, Suresh walks through his journey from growing up in a Miami repair station to launching Jets MRO in Dallas. He explains the niche they serve—scheduled and unscheduled maintenance for Learjets, Citations, and Challenger jets—and a component-repair business in South Florida.
The heart of the episode is culture: Suresh set out to beat industry-wide mechanic turnover by putting technicians first with free family benefits, no forced overtime, 7-day operations, and a habit of listening and improving. He’s aiming for ≤10% voluntary turnover so customers see the same trusted techs, job after job.
We also tal...
2025-09-3019 min
Flex ForwardChristine Grogan: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetWhat does it take to succeed in corporate healthcare, give back through nonprofit work, and keep pushing forward when life gets tough? In this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with Dr. Christine Grogan, healthcare executive and founder of Brave Coalition, a nonprofit focused on educating women about their breast health rights and expanding access to breast reconstruction — especially for women of color and those facing healthcare disparities.
Christine shares her inspiring journey from aspiring physician to medical sales leader, nonprofit founder, and mentor to young professionals. She opens up about the challenges of...
2025-09-1125 min
Flex ForwardPaul Montelongo: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetOn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast with Nic Espanet, we're joined by Paul Montelongo—serial entrepreneur, investor, and lifelong learner. Paul takes us through his journey from flipping his first property at 19 to managing a diversified real estate portfolio that now includes data centers and student housing.
He shares key strategies behind his success in multifamily and commercial real estate, talks about converting underutilized office spaces into high-demand data centers, and discusses the importance of staying focused, resilient, and laser-sharp in execution.
Paul also dives into his passion project with his wife: the Hi...
2025-09-1021 min
Flex ForwardDeon Hill: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with Deon Hill, founder of Uninstone Investments, to explore his journey from a cleaning business to building a growing real estate operation. Based in Georgia, Deon shares how he began wholesaling in 2017 and is now expanding into the multifamily commercial space.
Deon breaks down the strategies that set him apart in a competitive industry—particularly his focus on finding off-market deals organically through “driving for dollars” and tools like Zillow and PropWire. He also opens up about bouncing back after setbacks, the power of consistent follow...
2025-09-0909 min
Flex ForwardJimmy Edwards: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetWhat does it take to transition from flipping homes to building a multifamily real estate portfolio? In this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast with Nic Espanet, Jimmy Edwards, partner at High Five Multifamily, shares his journey from finance and single-family investing into the world of multifamily real estate.
Jimmy opens up about lessons learned through trial and error, the importance of people over spreadsheets, and why communication remains one of the most valuable skills in business. He and Nic discuss the entrepreneurial mindset, the pursuit of financial freedom, and how reading just 10 pages a day has...
2025-09-0419 min
Flex ForwardBrayden Hudson: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Brayden Hudson, co-founder and CFO of Trellis Energy Partners, to talk about building a lean, relationship-driven business in the oil and gas industry.
Brayden shares how Trellis Energy Partners is opening doors for individual investors to access non-operated oil and gas opportunities across the U.S.—a traditionally difficult-to-reach market. He explains how their model helps manage risk, leverages strong industry relationships, and creates meaningful opportunities for retail investors seeking growth and tax-advantaged investments.
The conversation also dives into leadership lessons, in...
2025-09-0324 min
Flex ForwardSandhya Seshadri: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetWhat does it take to build wealth through passive investing while balancing risk and reward? In this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast with Nic Espanet, Nic sits down with seasoned investor and entrepreneur Sandhya Seshadri, founder of Engineer Capital, to explore how she built her portfolio across multifamily real estate, oil, and stocks.
Sandhya shares her journey from immigrating to the U.S. with just two suitcases and a tight budget to managing multimillion-dollar assets. She explains why passive income is powerful, how conservative investing strategies can protect you during market shifts, and what sets her...
2025-09-0215 min
Flex ForwardDerrick Johns: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Derrick Johns, a former Marine turned medtech entrepreneur based in Austin, Texas. Derrick shares the journey behind founding Diffusion Technologies, a company developing revolutionary biomaterials like ZFuse—designed to overcome chronic inflammation caused by traditional implant materials like titanium and stainless steel.
Derrick opens up about starting his company during the 2009 financial crisis, funding it with the help of surgeon friends, and even selling a car to make payroll. The episode dives into how his team’s grit led to a 93.4% spinal fusion succ...
2025-08-3021 min
Flex ForwardCristin Dickerson: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast with Nic Espanet, Dr. Cristin Dickerson, founder of Green Imaging, shares how she went from avoiding the business side of healthcare to running a nationwide imaging network that serves over 2.5 million health plan members. She reveals how a sudden spike in MRI prices inspired her to create a cost-saving solution, and how her unique partnerships with imaging centers have set Green Imaging apart.
Dr. Dickerson also opens up about leading through major challenges—like the COVID-19 shutdowns and the sudden loss of a business partner—and the role of fami...
2025-08-2915 min
Flex ForwardSheldon Krancher: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Sheldon Krancher, a pioneer in the aligner orthodontics industry. With nearly two decades of experience, Sheldon has played a transformative role in shaping the future of dental and orthodontic care.
Sheldon shares how his journey led him to identify a major gap in aligner-based treatments—clinical diagnosis—and how his company, Clear Forward, now serves thousands of dentists and orthodontists around the world. He explains the unique niche his company fills, offering virtual co-diagnosis and optimized treatment planning that bridges the gap between alig...
2025-08-2819 min
Beyond StocksFrom Passive Investor to Running Deals | Nic Espanet on Beyond Stocks-Season 3 Episode 4What You'll LearnIn this episode of the Beyond Stocks Podcast, we sit down with Nic Espanet — multifamily investor, syndicator, and host of the FLEX Forward Podcast. Nic shares his journey from being a passive investor to leading large multifamily syndications, managing thousands of doors, and helping people invest as Limited Partners into commercial real estate.If you’ve been curious about how to get started in multifamily investing, the challenges syndicators face, or what it takes to scale from a few units to thousands, this conversation is for you.Whether you’re an acc...
2025-08-2526 min
Flex ForwardJason Surat: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast with Nic Espanet, Jason Surat shares how his career evolved from the corporate world and short-term rentals into owning and operating large multifamily properties. He talks about his early days in sales, his transition into fix-and-flip projects, and why short-term rentals became his gateway to bigger deals.
Jason also breaks down what sets him apart as an operator, from disciplined budgeting to his deep understanding of underwriting and risk analysis. You’ll hear valuable insights on building a network, using mentorships to accelerate your learning, and leveraging retirement funds for pa...
2025-08-2220 min
Flex ForwardPaul Mamakos: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetWhat if the future of space travel relied on oceans—not just Earth’s oceans, but ones hidden beneath the icy surfaces of moons orbiting Jupiter and Saturn? In this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with Paul Mamakos, founder of Space Ocean Corp, to explore the innovative concept of harvesting extraterrestrial water for space exploration.
Paul shares how his journey—from studying nuclear engineering and aviation, to health food manufacturing, to mergers and acquisitions—led him to pursue his passion for space. He explains the critical role of in-situ resource utilization, the business...
2025-08-2111 min
Flex ForwardJesse Dishaw: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Jesse Dishaw, founder of “Your Water Guy” and a serial entrepreneur in the water filtration space. Jesse shares how a shocking water test led him to co-found Living Water Systems, scale it to millions in revenue, and eventually launch his own affordable water filtration company. Learn how Jesse is shaking up the industry by offering whole-house water filtration systems at a fraction of the typical cost.
From door-to-door sales strategies to leadership lessons, this episode is packed with practical insights for business owners, aspi...
2025-08-2014 min
Flex ForwardLane Kawaoka: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with real estate investor and entrepreneur Lane Kawaoka. Lane shares how he transitioned from being a civil engineer to building a multifamily investment business and founding his company, The Wealth Elevator.
Lane opens up about his early real estate journey—starting with single-family homes and eventually moving into multifamily syndications and private equity. He reflects on the challenges of operating in today’s market with rising interest rates, taxes, and insurance, and how adaptability and self-awareness have been critical to his success.
Listeners will...
2025-08-1416 min
Flex ForwardPhyllis and Ken Salverson: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetOn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with long-time friends and seasoned real estate investors, Phyllis and Ken Salverson. With decades of success in corporate America—Phyllis in high-level government tax management and Ken in IT and vendor management—they share how they transitioned into multifamily real estate investing later in life.
Ken and Phyllis dive into their journey of self-education, mentorship, and finding focus in an overwhelming industry. From learning the ropes of multifamily investing to becoming valued voices in their investment group, they offer a blueprint for making big moves, even...
2025-08-1316 min
Flex ForwardJohn Kirk: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this inspiring episode of The Flex Forward Podcast with Nic Espanet, we sit down with John Kirk, a former college and arena football player, forest firefighter, gym manager, car salesman, and now Inside Sales Manager at a nationwide roofing company. John's journey is anything but traditional, and it’s packed with lessons in perseverance, adaptability, and pursuing what matters most—family, freedom, and fulfillment.
John shares how a temporary job selling gym memberships unexpectedly launched a successful sales career, leading him through personal training, car finance, and ultimately into the roofing industry. His story highlights the valu...
2025-08-1219 min
Flex ForwardJeremy Hans: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetJeremy Hans began his career as a Navy helicopter pilot before diving headfirst into investing—with a $55K loss during the 2008 market crash. But that failure turned into the foundation of a successful entrepreneurial life. In this episode, Jeremy takes us through his evolution from active duty to real estate syndicator and business operator. He shares what it’s like to scale a classic car restoration company, insights into buying small businesses, and his thoughts on grit, communication, and staying consistent.
You'll hear Jeremy and Nic reflect on real estate challenges, discuss how small actions and personalized outr...
2025-07-2114 min
Flex ForwardChris Soignier: Podcast Interview Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with Chris Soignier, a seasoned real estate entrepreneur, Bitcoin maximalist, and success coach. Chris shares his journey from a finance career to leading one of the top 30 teams at eXp Realty and diversifying into syndications in oil, gas, private equity, and lending funds. He opens up about navigating the shift from W-2 life to business ownership, and how books like Cashflow Quadrant helped reframe his mindset and direction.
We talk about coaching philosophies, building residual income, balancing work and family life, and Chris’s pa...
2025-07-2115 min
Flex ForwardKris Becan: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode, Nic Espanet sits down with long-time friend and seasoned IT professional Kris Becan. Kris shares insights from nearly three decades in the tech industry, where he’s specialized in identity, infrastructure, and security. From earning elite certifications to consulting for major government agencies, Kris discusses what it takes to stand out in a competitive industry.
The conversation goes deeper, touching on personal development through high-performance coaching, the value of accountability in achieving goals, and how Kris overcame major workplace challenges with direct communication. Plus, he opens up about his diversified investment strategy—covering everything from...
2025-07-2114 min
Flex ForwardGreg Roper: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet sits down with Greg Roper, a Dallas-based real estate attorney with nearly a decade of experience working in real estate law, subdivision development, and corporate structuring. Greg shares his professional journey—from getting rejected (and then accidentally accepted!) at his first job out of law school, to carving out a niche advising developers and builders across Texas.
Greg and Nic also explore the mindset it takes to thrive in a competitive legal environment, including the importance of mentorship, staying focused amidst distractions, and balancing detail with the bi...
2025-07-2120 min
Flex ForwardKathryn Stevens: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetKathryn Stevens brings a rich mix of marketing expertise and real estate insight to this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast with Nic Espanet. From her early days at Apple to hands-on home renovations and now serving clients as a residential real estate agent, Kathryn shares the winding journey that led her to a career where she thrives.
In this candid conversation, Kathryn discusses her transition into real estate, the lessons learned from flipping a 6,000-square-foot home, and why she loves working closely with a select group of clients. She reflects on how her past experiences—from co...
2025-07-2112 min
Flex ForwardDarren Atwood: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetDarren Atwood, a respected physician in rural West Texas, shares a candid journey from his early days in medicine to leading a struggling hospital into national recognition. Through heartfelt stories, including a powerful moment from Nic's own life that Darren witnessed, they unpack what it really means to leave a legacy. From turning hardship into growth to the importance of mentorship and mindset, this episode is rich with insights for anyone rethinking what success truly means.
Listeners will hear:
Why Darren believes happiness and joy are not the same—and how that shift changed his li...
2025-07-2119 min
Flex ForwardPaul Bonomi: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this engaging episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with electrical engineer and part-time blues DJ, Paul Bonomi. With over 20 years of experience in engineering and a passion for music, Paul shares how he blends technical expertise with creative pursuits. From adopting new software at work to spinning blues tracks at KNON 89.3 FM, Paul’s story is a mix of consistency, curiosity, and balance.
Tune in to hear about his unique approach to lifelong learning, how he tailors fitness routines to stay injury-free, and his philosophies on long-term investing. Whether you’re into...
2025-07-2119 min
Flex ForwardCurtis Evenson: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet sits down with longtime friend and investor Curtis Evenson. A retired physician turned world traveler, Curtis shares how he transitioned from a career in medicine to a lifestyle filled with cycling adventures, hunting trips, and real estate investing.
Curtis opens up about the early retirement decision he made in his mid-50s, and how his natural frugality, solid investment habits, and interest in economics played a role in building a sustainable financial future. He talks about moving from Wall Street equities to exploring real estate and...
2025-07-2111 min
Flex ForwardSanjeev Silla: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, host Nic Espanet welcomes long-time friend and IT consultant Sanjeev Silla. From working at top consulting firms to launching his own consultancy focused on healthcare systems, Sanjeev brings years of industry insight to the mic.
Sanjeev shares his journey of transitioning from traditional employment to independent consulting, focusing on implementation and optimization of healthcare IT systems. He emphasizes the power of networking, strategic planning, and the importance of clear communication in large-scale IT projects.
But the conversation doesn't stop at tech—Sanjeev also talks about his passion fo...
2025-07-2113 min
Flex ForwardJustin Martinez: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this episode, Nic Espanet sits down with longtime friend and seasoned entrepreneur Justin Martinez. Justin shares his incredible journey from flipping single-family homes to running multiple successful businesses—including a thriving family legacy at the State Fair of Texas. Discover how a copy of Rich Dad, Poor Dad sparked Justin’s passion for entrepreneurship, and how a life of intentional living, passive income, and van travel transformed his business mindset.
We dive into:
The origins of Justin’s career in real estate and food service
How the family-run State Fair business scaled from t...
2025-07-2118 min
Flex ForwardChris Bystriansky: Podcast Interview with Nic EspanetIn this motivating episode of The Flex Forward Podcast, Nic Espanet welcomes attorney, Ironman athlete, author, and entrepreneur Chris Bystriansky. Chris shares how he balances a demanding legal career with endurance training, real estate investing, and creative pursuits like writing and producing content.
The two dive into the power of taking action before you're ready, building resilience through endurance challenges, and creating momentum even during economic downturns. Chris opens up about what drives him, how he’s helping his daughter become a young author, and how anyone can start building passive income — even in uncertain times.
Ke...
2025-07-2118 min
Flex ForwardWelcome to 'Flex Forward'FLEX Forward is a powerful podcast showcasing stories of resilience, reinvention, and rise. Hosted by Nic Espanet, each episode delves into the inspiring journeys of professionals who have overcome obstacles, made bold career pivots, and discovered new paths to personal and financial growth.
With a theme of Growth. Grit. Gains., FLEX Forward highlights the determination and adaptability that drive success. Whether it’s bouncing back from setbacks, reinventing one’s path, or climbing to new heights, these conversations prove that every story of struggle and triumph has the power to motivate others.
Tune in for real...
2025-05-2800 min
Property Profits Real Estate PodcastTalking Tertiary in Texas featuring Nic EspanetIn this episode, Dave Dubeau sits down with full-time real estate syndicator Nic Espanet of Flex Equity Group. Nic shares his unique journey from physiotherapist to real estate mogul and breaks down how his team finds and funds multifamily deals in less-competitive Texas markets. Nic dives into the strategies that helped him scale from zero to nearly 800 units, his syndication structure, and how he’s navigating today’s economic headwinds with creativity and grit.
Nic also unpacks his asset management role, how he connects with investors, and why his operations in Abilene have held up stronger than some...
2025-05-2817 min
HERO Capital Raising ShowEP383: Discover how Nic Espanet, a real estate syndicator with 1606 units and $74M AUM. From physical therapist to real estate tycoon—Nic Espanet's journey to 1,606 units and $74M in assets is nothing short of extraordinary. Discover how he leveraged his healthcare background to excel in real estate syndication, unveiling unique strategies for investor relations and deal sourcing. Nic shares the mindset shifts and scaling tactics that propelled his success. Don't miss this opportunity to transform your real estate career—listen now! Key Takeaways to Listen ForCareer Transition: Insights into Nic Espanet's successful pivot from physical therapy to real estate syndication, including transferable skills and challenges overco...
2024-08-2347 min
The Best Ever CRE ShowJF3620: Overcoming Insurance Hikes, Navigating Texas Multifamily, and Managing 3,800 Units ft. Nic EspanetNic Espanet, owner of Flex Equity Group, shares his experience as a passive investor and general partner in multifamily syndications. He emphasizes the importance of getting to know and trust the operators before investing, as well as thoroughly researching their track record. Nic also discusses the challenges he has faced in the current market, such as rising insurance and taxes. Nic Espanet | Real Estate Background Flex Equity Group Portfolio: +1,606 doors Based in: Fort Worth, TX Say hi to him at: LinkedIn www.nicespanet.com Best Ever Book: Rich Dad Poor Dad Sponsors: Viking Ca...
2024-08-0226 min
The Capital Stack106. Finding the Right Mentor with Nic EspanetConnect with the host:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-e-jenkins/Website: https://www.birchprosper.com/--About the guest:Nic is a multifamily real estate investor who also coaches and mentors investors with aspirations of becoming general partners (GPs) on their own deals. He has 6 years of experience in the commercial real estate investing space, 9 years of experience as a small business owner, as well as 24 years of experience managing physical therapy teams. He has been a GP / co-GP in +1,000 units, and a limited partner in 1,780 units.
2024-07-2951 min
The Real Grind ShowNic’s Equity Flex - Real Estate Journey & How to Invest for Success | Nic EspanetThe first time our host Neander met this week's guest, Nic Espanet, he was playfully called out for wearing a women's V-neck—reminiscent of Ross from "Friends!” But while these two might clash on fashion, they're in sync on savvy investments. Nic began as a passive multifamily investor but quickly took the reins, transitioning to a Lead Syndicator and Asset Manager role in the company he started with his wife. Join us as we uncover the story behind the dynamic rebrand of their company, Flex Equity Group, and their ambitious plans to grow their team and supercharge their capital-raising ventures!
2023-10-0338 min
Elevate with Tyler Chesser - The Real Estate Podcast for Investing, Mindset and Personal DevelopmentE291 Nic Espanet - Elevate Your Growth Mindset, Master Tools and Strategies for Optimal Real Estate InvestingSucceeding in real estate investing requires a combination of various factors - knowledge, skill, understanding of the market, identifying opportunities, evaluating properties, and the ability to take calculated risks. Successful investors also need to be able to manage properties effectively, maintain positive relationships with stakeholders, adapt to changing market conditions and adjust strategies to stay ahead of the curve. But, mastering tools and strategies are not enough to optimize your portfolio and business performance. It is more than just technical skills.
We delve into this topic in this episode with Nic Espanet, founder and principal o...
2023-03-2158 min
The Capital Raiser ShowNic Espanet Preview: Scale Into Syndication By Hanging Around The Right PeopleNic talks a bit about how to scale into syndication by surrounding yourself with the right mentors and community of people! http://www.thrivemultifamily.com/
2022-06-1800 min
The Capital Raiser ShowCRS202 Nic Espanet: Making That Jump From Houses To 100 Unit SyndicationsWe explored Brad Sumrok's Mentorship and scaling into syndications. The path is different for everone. Don't compare yourself to others. http://www.thrivemultifamily.com/
2022-06-1640 minThe Capital Raiser ShowCRS202 Nic Espanet: Making That Jump From Houses To 100 Unit SyndicationsWe explored Brad Sumrok's Mentorship and scaling into syndications. The path is different for everone. Don't compare yourself to others. http://www.thrivemultifamily.com/
2022-06-1640 min
The Capital Stack005. The Impact of Coaching and Mentorship in Group Investments with Nic EspanetDiscussing the importance of coaching, mentorship, and plugging into the right real estate investing ecosystem with Nic Espanet.--Nic EspanetNic is a multifamily real estate investor who also coaches and mentors investors with aspirations of becoming general partners (GPs) on their own deals. He has 6 years of experience in the commercial real estate investing space, 9 years of experience as a small business owner, as well as 24 years of experience managing physical therapy teams. He has been a GP / co-GP in +1,000 units, and a limited partner in 1,780 units.If you want to...
2022-03-1434 min
Diary of an Apartment InvestorATE-Changing the Culture of Your New Property with Nic Espanet and Will EdwardsShowing residents that you and your team are owners who care and follow through with Nic Espanet and Will Edwards.Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and TwitterFor more educational content, visit our website at www.diaryofanapartmentinvestor.comInterested in investing with Four Oaks Capital? First step is to schedule a call with us. This episode originally aired on March, 7th 2022----Nic EspanetNic began passively investing in multifamily properties in 2016 and closed his first deal as a Lead Syndicator & Asset Manager in 2018. He has since inv...
2022-03-0741 min
Prosperity Through Multifamily Real Estate InvestingHealthcare Professional Turned Real Estate Investor with Nic EspanetHealthcare Professional Turned Real Estate InvestorEpisode 102: Nic Espanet has been passively investing in multifamily assets since 2016 and has been a multifamily Syndicator & Asset Manager since 2018. Nic has worked as a licensed Physical Therapist since 1996 and has run his own private practice since 2012. His experience as a small business owner combined with his detail-oriented personality has equipped the strong growth of Thrive Multifamily, a Texas-based multifamily syndication company. Nic is currently an Asset Manager in 4 multifamily syndications totaling 580 units and is a Passive Investor in an additional 1780 units at 7 properties.
2022-01-1942 min
2021-12-2126 min
MULTIFAMILY AP360Ep#137 From physical therapy to investing in multifamily apartments with Nic EspanetSend us a textIn this episode, we have Nic Espanet from Thrive Multifamily LLC. Here are a few key points we discussed in this episodeNic shares his career shift from being a physical therapist to being a full-time investorKey indicators that drive Nic’s investment strategyThe role of mentors and the ecosystem to make the investor shine in you Know Nic’s Business plan, acquisition strategy, and exit goals with an investmentNic’s experience working with PMs and contractorsHow having a clear idea of the movement of various KPIs is primitive for Asset managementNic E...
2021-10-1829 min
10,000 Roads To Financial IndependenceHow To Scale Up Multifamily Investing Business [Ep#60]On this episode, Elisa interviews Nic Espanet. Nic is the Principal at Thrive Multifamily LLC. He has been passively investing in multifamily assets since 2016. Moreover, Nic has been a multifamily Syndicator & Asset Manager since 2018. He is currently an Asset Manager in 4 multifamily syndications totaling 580 units and is a Passive Investor in an additional 1780 units at seven properties. A licensed Physical Therapist with 25+ years of experience, Nic runs his private practice since 2012.
Hungry for more of the How in real estate investing? Visit www.ezfiuniversity.com for in-depth articles and webinar recordings to start down your own road...
2021-09-1835 min
How Did They Do It? Real EstateSA211 | Generating Passive Income Through Short-Term Rentals with Nic EspanetJoining seminars, workshops, and staying up-to-date on market trends helps investors get the most out of a deal. Dive in with guest Nic Espanet to learn about the beginning phase of passive investing in multifamily deals.Key Takeaways To Listen ForMeeting Brokers and establishing credibilitySyndicating deals and raising capitalFinding the right group of peopleStabilizing a deal and ensuring a good deal flowWays to overcome failures in multifamily investingAdvantage of having experience in closing dealsStruggles with the CDC Eviction Moratorium About Nic EspanetNic Espanet is a Multi-Family Real E...
2021-07-0726 min
Strategic Multifamily Investing PodcastInterview w/ Nic EspanetNic Espanet has been passively investing in multifamily assets since 2016 and has been a multifamily Syndicator & Asset Manager since 2018. Nic has worked as a licensed Physical Therapist since 1996 and has run his own private practice since 2012. His experience as a small business owner combined with his detail-oriented personality has equipped the strong growth of Thrive Multifamily, a Texas-based multifamily syndication company. Nic is currently an Asset Manager in 3 multifamily syndications totaling 452 units and is a Passive Investor in an additional 1780 units at 7 properties.
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2021-04-1537 min
Real Estate Investor PodcastEpisode #41: Asset Management Friday: Tertiary Markets with Nic EspanetWelcome to another Asset Management Friday segment, focused on educating operators, building better systems, and becoming a best in class operator. Today’s guest is Nic Espanet, a Principal at Thrive Multifamily LLC and a multifamily real estate investor based in Fort Worth, Texas. Nic has been passively investing in multifamily assets since 2016 and has been a multifamily syndicator and asset manager since 2018. He has worked as a licensed physical therapist since 1996 and has run his own private practice since 2012. His experience as a small business owner combined with his detail-oriented personality has equipped the strong growth of Thrive Mu...
2021-01-2117 min
Passive Income Through Multifamily Real EstateEpisode #166: Asset Management Friday: Tertiary Markets with Nic EspanetWelcome to another Asset Management Friday segment, focused on educating operators, building better systems, and becoming a best in class operator. Today’s guest is Nic Espanet, a Principal at Thrive Multifamily LLC and a multifamily real estate investor based in Fort Worth, Texas. Nic has been passively investing in multifamily assets since 2016 and has been a multifamily syndicator and asset manager since 2018. He has worked as a licensed physical therapist since 1996 and has run his own private practice since 2012. His experience as a small business owner combined with his detail-oriented personality has equipped the strong growth of Thrive Mu...
2021-01-1513 min