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At The Table with Patrick LencioniIsolation vs. ConnectionAre you creating a workplace environment that feels like a cage or a park?In episode 260 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody unpack a powerful metaphor—“cocaine water”—to explain the dangers of isolation at work. Drawing from a well-known behavioral experiment that involves cages and parks, they connect addiction, loneliness, and disengagement to modern workplace culture. The conversation makes a compelling case that real connection at work fuels not only productivity but also dignity, healing, and human flourishing.Topics explored in this episode: (01:23) The Cocaine Water Ex...
2026-01-2019 min
KFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - New Year's EvolutionHow can you use the Working Genius framework to reframe your traditional New Year’s resolutions so that they don’t lead to frustration or shame?In episode 104 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson introduce the idea of a “New Year’s evolution” instead of a New Year’s resolution. They explain why resolutions built on shame and weakness tend to fail and how understanding your Working Genius creates a healthier, more effective path to growth. By spending more time in your areas of strength, you can create a more energizing and sustainable year....
2026-01-1318 minThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniNew Year's EvolutionHow can you use the Working Genius framework to reframe your traditional New Year’s resolutions so that they don’t lead to frustration or shame?In episode 104 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson introduce the idea of a “New Year’s evolution” instead of a New Year’s resolution. They explain why resolutions built on shame and weakness tend to fail and how understanding your Working Genius creates a healthier, more effective path to growth. By spending more time in your areas of strength, you can create a more energizing and sustainable year....
2026-01-1318 min
At The Table with Patrick LencioniBeware the High AchieverIf you’re achieving at a high level while ignoring the health of your inner life, how can you reset?In episode 259 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore why high achievement can be a warning sign rather than a badge of honor. They explain how leaders often use success to compensate for fear, insecurity, or unresolved personal issues. The conversation underscores that true leadership effectiveness begins with inner health long before it shows up in organizational results.Topics explored in this episode: (00:30) The Real Cost of...
2026-01-0619 min
KFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - Working Genius vs. the Ideal Team PlayerAre Working Genius pairings linked with Ideal Team Player virtues? In episode 103 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why Working Genius types cannot and should not be used to predict the three Ideal Team Player virtues (humble, hungry, and smart). They walk through tempting—but ultimately inaccurate—assumptions people often make when connecting specific geniuses to humility, hunger, or emotional intelligence. By clarifying the proper order of team building—hire for virtues first, then place people according to their geniuses—they’ll help you avoid costly misinterpretations and build healthier teams.Topic...
2025-12-3018 minThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniWorking Genius vs. the Ideal Team PlayerAre Working Genius pairings linked with Ideal Team Player virtues? In episode 103 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why Working Genius types cannot and should not be used to predict the three Ideal Team Player virtues (humble, hungry, and smart). They walk through tempting—but ultimately inaccurate—assumptions people often make when connecting specific geniuses to humility, hunger, or emotional intelligence. By clarifying the proper order of team building—hire for virtues first, then place people according to their geniuses—they’ll help you avoid costly misinterpretations and build healthier teams.Topic...
2025-12-3018 min
At The Table with Patrick LencioniThe Fruits of RecommitmentWhy does recommitting to trust matter more than recommitting to strategy?Episode 258 of At The Table episode explores the moments when teams and relationships reach a breaking point—where everything could unravel or deepen. Pat and Cody reflect on their own recent off-site, sharing how choosing vulnerability and recommitment led them to greater unity, clarity, and trust. They argue that the “messy” work of recommitting isn’t soft; it’s the most essential and transformative part of leadership.Topics explored in this episode: (03:17) Why the Cliff Always Feels Real...
2025-12-2318 min
Culture From the HeartREWIND: The Power of Vulnerability and Self-Discovery in Leadership featuring Patrick LencioniIn this special from the vault rewind episode of the Culture From the Heart Podcast, hosts Larry Levine and Darrell Amy revisit their inspiring conversation with Patrick Lencioni, founder and president of The Table Group. They discuss the critical intersection of personal healing and professional leadership, exploring how a leader's internal life dictates organizational culture. Patrick opens up about his personal journey, moving from a mindset of constant achievement to finding true inner peace. The conversation explores the concept of "starting here"—using tools like Working Genius to understand one's true self—and why vulnerability is the gateway to trus...
2025-12-1731 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniWorking Genius and Emotional IntelligenceIs there a correlation between a person’s Working Genius (WG) pairings and their emotional intelligence (EQ)? Also, how can you use your Working Genius results to strengthen your emotional intelligence?In episode 102 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore how Working Genius and emotional intelligence intersect, and where they don’t. They explain that while no Working Genius type predicts EQ, the Working Genius model is a powerful tool for developing the self-awareness and social awareness that foster emotional intelligence.Topics explored in this episode: (0...
2025-12-1623 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - Working Genius and Emotional IntelligenceIs there a correlation between a person’s Working Genius (WG) pairings and their emotional intelligence (EQ)? Also, how can you use your Working Genius results to strengthen your emotional intelligence?In episode 102 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore how Working Genius and emotional intelligence intersect, and where they don’t. They explain that while no Working Genius type predicts EQ, the Working Genius model is a powerful tool for developing the self-awareness and social awareness that foster emotional intelligence.Topics explored in this episode: (0...
2025-12-1623 min
At The Table with Patrick LencioniThe Art of MessinessDo you sometimes over-rely on data to cover yourself instead of trusting your judgment? Episode 257 of At The Table explores why leaders often cling to data, certainty, and predictability—even though business is inherently messy. Pat and Cody discuss how fear of failure drives over-analysis, slowing decisions and weakening judgment. Ultimately, they argue that great leadership is an art fueled by instinct, courage, and human interaction—not algorithms or metrics.Topics explored in this episode: (03:15) Data vs. Instinct in Real Business* Why instinct and common sens...
2025-12-0915 min
KFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - Silver Linings After LayoffsHow might a layoff create space for you to pursue work that energizes you rather than drains you?In episode 101 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why layoffs—while often painful—can become pivotal moments of clarity and reinvention. They also explain how the Working Genius framework provides a roadmap for choosing future roles that offer joy, energy, and long-term career sustainability. Topics explored in this episode: (02:20) What Layoffs Reveal About Misaligned Work* How many people fall into roles based on majors, circumstance, or convenience—not joy...
2025-12-0220 minThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniSilver Linings After LayoffsHow might a layoff create space for you to pursue work that energizes you rather than drains you?In episode 101 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why layoffs—while often painful—can become pivotal moments of clarity and reinvention. They also explain how the Working Genius framework provides a roadmap for choosing future roles that offer joy, energy, and long-term career sustainability. Topics explored in this episode: (02:20) What Layoffs Reveal About Misaligned Work* How many people fall into roles based on majors, circumstance, or convenience—not joy...
2025-12-0220 min
Upstream PodcastRethinking Volunteers with Father John RiccardoWhat are some ways leaders in a parish can attract capable volunteers?In episode 17 of the Upstream Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and guest Father John Riccardo explore a fundamental shift in how church leaders can view and utilize volunteers, emphasizing that the church is the Body of Christ and not a corporation. They assert that the biggest challenges are rooted in low expectations, treating volunteers generically, and creating a division between paid staff and unpaid volunteers. By raising expectations, discerning people's unique spiritual gifts, and holding everyone equally accountable to the mission of rescuing, renewing, and transforming the...
2025-11-2834 min
At The Table with Patrick LencioniWhat is a Toxic Culture?How does working in a “toxic” culture affect your ability to perform and trust others? Also, if your organization has an unhealthy work environment, how can leaders begin the process of internal correction? In episode 256 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack what “toxic culture” really means—and what it doesn’t. They explore how toxicity rarely starts at the bottom but usually traces back to the executive team’s dysfunction, lack of clarity, or tolerance for poor behavior. They also share the signs, causes, and antidotes of toxic workplaces, encouraging leaders to create environments r...
2025-11-2522 min
KFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - Square Peg Round HoleWhat happens when we misunderstand or mistype someone’s Working Genius? Also, what changes when we finally understand the true genius behind someone’s behavior?In episode 100 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why an incorrectly identified Working Genius can create frustration, friction, and confusion among teammates. They also dive into factors that often lead to mistyping, and how understanding true genius unlocks better collaboration and more joy. Topics explored in this episode: (03:00) When the Wrong Genius Causes Friction* How teams can inadve...
2025-11-1818 minThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniSquare Peg Round HoleWhat happens when we misunderstand or mistype someone’s Working Genius? Also, what changes when we finally understand the true genius behind someone’s behavior?In episode 100 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why an incorrectly identified Working Genius can create frustration, friction, and confusion among teammates. They also dive into factors that often lead to mistyping, and how understanding true genius unlocks better collaboration and more joy. Topics explored in this episode: (03:00) When the Wrong Genius Causes Friction* How teams can inadve...
2025-11-1818 min
At The Table with Patrick LencioniEfficiency vs. HumanityWhat happens when innovation outpaces our moral compass?In episode 255 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody wrestle with the tension between technological innovation and human dignity in the workplace. As artificial intelligence reshapes industries, they ask whether efficiency has become more important than humanity. This episode invites leaders and consumers alike to seek a moral “true north”—one that values people over profit and connection over convenience.Topics explored in this episode: (02:57) Innovation Without a True North* Concern that the rise of AI could fundame...
2025-11-1125 min
KFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - The ID Pairing with Claire LaughlinHow does being an Inventor-Discerner shape your leadership style when guiding a team?In episode 99 of the Working Genius Podcast, In this episode, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson welcome master facilitator Claire Laughlin to unpack the unique strengths and quirks of the Inventor-Discerner (ID) pairing. Together, they explore how people with this Working Genius pairing constantly generate, refine, and iterate ideas in real time. Claire Laughlin is a dynamic trainer and coach who helps teams communicate better and lead with purpose. As one of The Table Group’s master facilitators, she teaches the Working Genius mod...
2025-11-0427 minThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniThe ID Pairing with Claire LaughlinHow does being an Inventor-Discerner shape your leadership style when guiding a team?In episode 99 of the Working Genius Podcast, In this episode, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson welcome master facilitator Claire Laughlin to unpack the unique strengths and quirks of the Inventor-Discerner (ID) pairing. Together, they explore how people with this Working Genius pairing constantly generate, refine, and iterate ideas in real time. Claire Laughlin is a dynamic trainer and coach who helps teams communicate better and lead with purpose. As one of The Table Group’s master facilitators, she teaches the Working Genius mod...
2025-11-0427 min
At The Table with Patrick LencioniVirtual PoliticsHave your remote teams been unknowingly breeding politics through silence and distance?In episode 254 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore how remote work can unintentionally foster politics and erode trust within teams. They unpack why virtual communication creates space for misunderstanding and suspicion—even among well-intentioned people. They also offer practical advice for building connections, restoring trust, and maintaining healthy team dynamics across distance.Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Understanding Virtual Politics* How “virtual politics” can be thought of as the subtle mistrust that grows when people...
2025-10-2818 min
On Boards PodcastThe imperfect path to better boards with Jim BrownIn this episode of On Boards, hosts Joe Ayoub and Raza Shaikh welcome Jim Brown, co-founder of OrgHealth and author of the global bestseller "The Imperfect Board Member." With 30 years of experience advising boards and CEOs, Jim shares how embracing imperfection leads to stronger leadership, healthier organizations, and better board performance. He dives into the evolution of governance over the last two decades and the cultural challenges boards face today. Jim also previews his forthcoming book arriving in 2026, "The Imperfect CEO," set 20 years after his first book. The sequel explores the current reality that company...
2025-10-2240 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniHonoring Working FrustrationsHow can you genuinely honor someone's working frustrations, beyond just being aware of them?In episode 98 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explore the idea of honoring working frustrations—the tasks that drain energy, even when you’re good at them. Using team member Tracy Noble as a case study, they discuss how competence without joy leads to burnout and how leaders can reorganize work to restore energy and dignity. Topics explored in this episode: (01:00) The Cost of Competence* The danger of confusing skill with joy and...
2025-10-2117 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - Honoring Working FrustrationsHow can you genuinely honor someone's working frustrations, beyond just being aware of them?In episode 98 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explore the idea of honoring working frustrations—the tasks that drain energy, even when you’re good at them. Using team member Tracy Noble as a case study, they discuss how competence without joy leads to burnout and how leaders can reorganize work to restore energy and dignity. Topics explored in this episode: (01:00) The Cost of Competence* The danger of confusing skill with joy and...
2025-10-2117 min
At The Table with Patrick LencioniTrust Must Be ExercisedAre you unintentionally eroding trust by avoiding hard conversations? Also, what happens to your team when trust goes unexercised?In episode 253 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack why trust isn’t something to simply build and preserve—it must be used, stretched, and tested to grow stronger. They explore how leaders unintentionally erode trust by avoiding honest curiosity, mistaking it for suspicion. Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Curiosity vs. Suspicion* How simple questions like “What are you working on?” can build or break t...
2025-10-1419 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniThe Impact of Your EnvironmentHow does your work or home environment shape the way you see your Working Genius?Episode 97 of the Working Genius Podcast explores how environment and culture can dramatically influence how people view their own talents. Patrick Lencioni, Cody Thompson, and Matt Lencioni share personal stories and client examples where individuals misunderstood their results because of the strong pull of their surroundings. They also discuss how, when you take the Working Genius assessment, it's essential to put aside what you think you should be doing and instead focus on what brings you joy and energy.
2025-10-0726 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - The Impact of Your EnvironmentHow does your work or home environment shape the way you see your Working Genius?Episode 97 of the Working Genius Podcast explores how environment and culture can dramatically influence how people view their own talents. Patrick Lencioni, Cody Thompson, and Matt Lencioni share personal stories and client examples where individuals misunderstood their results because of the strong pull of their surroundings. They also discuss how, when you take the Working Genius assessment, it's essential to put aside what you think you should be doing and instead focus on what brings you joy and energy.
2025-10-0726 min
At The Table with Patrick LencioniWhere There's Smoke...What happens to a culture when leaders ignore problems?In episode 252 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody explore the leadership principle of running toward the fire. They discuss why leaders often ignore the “smoke” of personnel or cultural issues, hoping problems will resolve themselves. Instead, they argue that credibility, trust, and organizational health are built when leaders courageously confront issues before they spread.Topics explored in this episode: 00:35 – Seeing Smoke* Leaders set the tone by how they respond to problems.03:33...
2025-09-3015 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniThe Key to ConfidenceHow can understanding your strengths and weaknesses through the Working Genius model lead to true confidence?Confidence isn’t about pretending to be great at everything—it’s about knowing and accepting the truth about yourself. In episode 96 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explain how the Working Genius framework provides a foundation for authentic confidence rooted in both strengths and weaknesses. They share practical insights on how humility, honesty, and self-awareness create confidence that impacts work, relationships, and life.Topics explored in this episode: 0:30 – Defining...
2025-09-2319 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - The Key to ConfidenceHow can understanding your strengths and weaknesses through the Working Genius model lead to true confidence?Confidence isn’t about pretending to be great at everything—it’s about knowing and accepting the truth about yourself. In episode 96 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explain how the Working Genius framework provides a foundation for authentic confidence rooted in both strengths and weaknesses. They share practical insights on how humility, honesty, and self-awareness create confidence that impacts work, relationships, and life.Topics explored in this episode: 0:30 – Defining...
2025-09-2319 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni251. Transition EquationIn what ways can the formula for change be useful for understanding both personal and organizational change?In episode 251 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody explore the so-called change equation, a simple yet powerful formula that explains why some change efforts succeed while others stall. Breaking it down into dissatisfaction, vision, and a first simple step—multiplied together—they show how these elements must outweigh resistance for change to occur. Topics explored in this episode: 0:55 – The Change Equation3:17 – D: Dissatisfaction with the Current State* How...
2025-09-1621 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni95. Beyond the Coffee CupsWhat creative analogies can you use to help understand your joy and frustration at work?In episode 95 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody revisit one of their earliest metaphors for the Six Types of Working Genius model: the coffee cup analogy. They explore how it explains joy, competency, and frustration in work—and why new analogies like batteries, bikes, and even shoes can add nuance to the conversation. Along the way, they highlight how interest, energy, and preference intersect with genius.Topics explored in this episode: ...
2025-09-0917 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - 95. Beyond the Coffee CupsWhat creative analogies can you use to help understand your joy and frustration at work?In episode 95 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody revisit one of their earliest metaphors for the Six Types of Working Genius model: the coffee cup analogy. They explore how it explains joy, competency, and frustration in work—and why new analogies like batteries, bikes, and even shoes can add nuance to the conversation. Along the way, they highlight how interest, energy, and preference intersect with genius.Topics explored in this episode: ...
2025-09-0917 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni250. BaaM & WaaMHow would your workplace culture change if love and service were driving forces?In episode 250 of At The Table, Pat and Cody introduce the concepts of BaaM (Business as a Ministry) and WaaM (Work as a Ministry). They explore how viewing business and work through the lens of service and love can create healthier workplaces and stronger organizations. Whether you’re leading a public company or managing a small team, this conversation will invite how you think about purpose, culture, and results.Topics explored in this episode: (0:32) Bus...
2025-09-0218 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni94. The Decision Line with Krista KotrlaHow can the Working Genius model prevent decision-making confusion?In episode 94 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat, Cody, and guest Krista Kotrla unpack the concept of “crossing the decision line,” exploring how leaders can move from healthy conflict to clear commitments, avoiding the trap of endless discernment and re-decision. Through practical tools like end-of-meeting discipline, clarity over certainty, and understanding the nuances of galvanizing, they discuss how to drive alignment, commitment, and faster execution.Krista Kotrla is a consultant with The Table Group who helps leaders turn healthy conflict into clear commitments.
2025-08-2627 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - 94. The Decision Line with Krista KotrlaHow can the Working Genius model prevent decision-making confusion?In episode 94 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat, Cody, and guest Krista Kotrla unpack the concept of “crossing the decision line,” exploring how leaders can move from healthy conflict to clear commitments, avoiding the trap of endless discernment and re-decision. Through practical tools like end-of-meeting discipline, clarity over certainty, and understanding the nuances of galvanizing, they discuss how to drive alignment, commitment, and faster execution.Krista Kotrla is a consultant with The Table Group who helps leaders turn healthy conflict into clear commitments.
2025-08-2627 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni249. Hunger WinsHow can you create a workforce of hungry people who aren't trying to prove their worth by the number of hours they work? And how can you help your coworkers build a sense of ownership and passion around their work? In episode 249 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore why “hunger wins” when it comes to building competitive, effective teams. They challenge the misconception that long hours translate to productivity. They also reveal how to create sustainable competitiveness that inspires people to go above and beyond—without burning them out.Topics explored in this episode...
2025-08-1918 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni93. Galvanizing is the Most Disruptive GeniusWhat makes galvanizing more disruptive than other Working Geniuses?In episode 93 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why galvanizing is the most disruptive of all the Working Geniuses. They unpack the nature of galvanizing as the only Genius that necessarily involves moving others, making it uniquely powerful—and often misunderstood. Through stories and reflection, they highlight the challenges and the essential value of galvanizers in any team or organization.Topics explored in this episode: (0:40) Why Galvanizing Disrupts by Nature* Unlike other Geniuses, galvanizing cannot happen in isolation—it alway...
2025-08-1220 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - 93. Galvanizing is the Most Disruptive GeniusWhat makes galvanizing more disruptive than other Working Geniuses?In episode 93 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why galvanizing is the most disruptive of all the Working Geniuses. They unpack the nature of galvanizing as the only Genius that necessarily involves moving others, making it uniquely powerful—and often misunderstood. Through stories and reflection, they highlight the challenges and the essential value of galvanizers in any team or organization.Topics explored in this episode: (0:40) Why Galvanizing Disrupts by Nature* Unlike other Geniuses, gal...
2025-08-1220 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni248. Leadership Lessons From the KisscamHow can leaders resist the ego-inflation that comes with praise and status?In episode 248 of At The Table, Pat and Cody reflect on the viral Coldplay kiss cam scandal—not to sensationalize it, but to draw important leadership lessons from it. They explore the dangers of ego, power, and isolation for leaders, particularly those who fail to stay grounded in their home life and faith.Topics explored in this episode: (0:56) When Praise Becomes Poison* Why the Coldplay incident is more than just clickbait—it’s a cautionary tale.(6:44) How Leaders...
2025-08-0530 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni92. Easy For You to SayAre you unintentionally discouraging others by calling something “easy”?In episode 92 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore the pitfalls of assuming that what’s easy and fun for you will be the same for others. They explore how working within your genius can make tasks feel effortless and how this can mislead us when advising or leading others. This episode is a reminder to value your own strengths and to honor the differences in how others are wired.Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) The Myth of Easy and Fun* Pat...
2025-07-2915 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - 92. Easy For You to SayAre you unintentionally discouraging others by calling something “easy”?In episode 92 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore the pitfalls of assuming that what’s easy and fun for you will be the same for others. They explore how working within your genius can make tasks feel effortless and how this can mislead us when advising or leading others. This episode is a reminder to value your own strengths and to honor the differences in how others are wired.Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) The Myth of...
2025-07-2915 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni247. Leadership Isn't CoolWhy might being “cool” make someone a dangerous person to work for? And why are some of the greatest leaders uncool? In episode 247 of At The Table, Pat and Cody challenge the cultural obsession with being “cool” and examine how it can corrupt leadership. Using a global study that defined six traits of coolness—especially “powerful” and “hedonistic”—they reveal how these values run counter to responsible leadership. Through stories, examples, and hard truths, they make the case that great leaders are often deeply uncool—and that's precisely what makes them trustworthy.Topics Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explo...
2025-07-2219 min
The LeadingSmart Podcast[S1EP10] What Does A Healthy Pastoral Transition Look Like?│ Pastoral SuccessionIn the final episode of Season 1, Holly and Tim wrap up the series on pastoral succession by tackling a topic that’s often overlooked—but critical: staffing and structure in a new season of leadership.Whether you're an executive pastor, board member, or senior leader, this episode will help you think clearly and strategically about what your team should look like after a new senior pastor steps in. From aligning your structure with the new leader’s strengths to preserving a healthy culture and avoiding silent staff turnover, this conversation is packed with insights you can act on.
2025-07-2221 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni91. It's an E ThingWhat makes the Genius of Enablement (“E”) such a crucial part of team implementation?Episode 91 of the Working Genius Podcast dives into the Enablement Genius with guest Tracy Noble, Chief Development Officer at The Table Group. Pat, Cody, and Tracy explore the subtle power of Enablement—how it brings relational glue to implementation and drives team cohesion. They also unpack the differences between Enablement and people-pleasing, and how to regulate Enablement without shutting it down.Topics explored in this episode: (0:52) The Complexity of Enablement* Tracy describes how her Discernment constantly informs her Ena...
2025-07-1523 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - 91. It's an E ThingWhat makes the Genius of Enablement (“E”) such a crucial part of team implementation?Episode 91 of the Working Genius Podcast dives into the Enablement Genius with guest Tracy Noble, Chief Development Officer at The Table Group. Pat, Cody, and Tracy explore the subtle power of Enablement—how it brings relational glue to implementation and drives team cohesion. They also unpack the differences between Enablement and people-pleasing, and how to regulate Enablement without shutting it down.Topics explored in this episode: (0:52) The Complexity of Enablement* Tracy describ...
2025-07-1523 min
Culture From the HeartEmbracing Vulnerability and Emotional Intelligence in Leadership featuring Patrick LencioniIn this episode of Culture From the Heart Podcast, hosts Larry Levine and Darrell Amy are joined by Patrick Lencioni, founder and president of The Table Group. They discuss the importance of vulnerability in leadership and how understanding one's own heart can transform organizational culture. Patrick shares his personal journey of self-discovery and the impact it had on his life and leadership style. The conversation covers key topics such as the role of emotional intelligence, the importance of loving and understanding employees, and the significant advantages of creating a heart-centered workplace. This episode is rich with insights on fostering...
2025-07-1431 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni246. Party at the DMV: When Meta-Culture Shapes Workplace CultureHow does the broader culture of your location influence your organization’s internal culture?In episode 246 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore how meta-culture—the broader geographic or societal environment—shapes the internal culture of organizations. From experiences at the DMV to moving company headquarters, they share insights on how values interact with location. Topics explored in this episode: (2:44) Organizational Culture Exists Within a Larger Culture* The macro culture of a city or state can either support or resist company values.* Remote work and...
2025-07-0815 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni90. Uppercase vs. Lowercase GeniusHow can recognizing the “lowercase” application of your Working Genius improve your contributions to projects and increase your job fulfillment?In episode 90 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the distinction between “uppercase” and “lowercase” expressions of the six Working Geniuses. Joined by Matt Lencioni, they unpack how to apply your genius even when it's not the dominant need in a situation. Topics explored in this episode: (0:53) Introducing Uppercase and Lowercase Genius* Using your genius in its "uppercase" glory or a "lowercase" supportive capacity.
2025-07-0120 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - 90. Uppercase vs. Lowercase GeniusHow can recognizing the “lowercase” application of your Working Genius improve your contributions to projects and increase your job fulfillment?In episode 90 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the distinction between “uppercase” and “lowercase” expressions of the six Working Geniuses. Joined by Matt Lencioni, they unpack how to apply your genius even when it's not the dominant need in a situation. Topics explored in this episode: (0:53) Introducing Uppercase and Lowercase Genius* Using your genius in its "uppercase" glory or a "lowercase" sup...
2025-07-0120 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni245. Dissecting a GOATWhat are some universal traits of successful leaders that any leader in any field can emulate? In episode 245 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson reflect on a remarkable leader they consider one of the greatest CEOs they’ve encountered—Tony Mazzella of Mazzella Companies. Tony’s approach to leadership is rooted in humility, deep responsibility, and a relentless desire to learn, all without seeking fame or recognition. This conversation breaks down the traits that make a truly great CEO, far beyond what the public eye ever sees.Topics explored in this episode:
2025-06-2416 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni89. Understanding vs. Judging: Averting the Fundamental Attribution ErrorHow often do you assume someone’s behavior is a flaw in their character instead of a feature of their genius?In episode 89 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack the “Fundamental Attribution Error” and how it damages relationships at work and at home. They explain how people often misjudge each other’s actions as flaws rather than features of their unique Working Genius. By walking through all six Geniuses, the hosts show how greater understanding can lead to less guilt, less judgment, and better collaboration.Topics explored in this episode: ...
2025-06-1727 minKFM On DemandThe Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni - 89. Understanding vs. Judging: Averting the Fundamental Attribution ErrorHow often do you assume someone’s behavior is a flaw in their character instead of a feature of their genius?In episode 89 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack the “Fundamental Attribution Error” and how it damages relationships at work and at home. They explain how people often misjudge each other’s actions as flaws rather than features of their unique Working Genius. By walking through all six Geniuses, the hosts show how greater understanding can lead to less guilt, less judgment, and better collaboration.Topics explored in this...
2025-06-1727 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni244. Embracing Tension is the Key to InnovationAre you missing out on innovation because you're avoiding discomfort? How can you embrace the tension that's required for innovation? In episode 244 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the crucial link between tension and innovation. They argue that real creativity requires discomfort—whether from interpersonal friction or environmental urgency. Through personal stories and business examples, they offer practical ways to embrace conflict and drive change before crisis strikes.Topics explored in this episode: (1:14) Tension Can Be Beneficial* Innovation is universally desired but rarely pursued.
2025-06-1023 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni88. MBTI Is the Noun, Working Genius Is the VerbHow can your understanding of Myers-Briggs add to your Working Genius? In episode 88 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody dive into the relationship between Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) and the Six Types of Working Genius. They explore how MBTI describes who you are (the noun), while Working Genius describes what you do best (the verb). Through examples and insights, they show how combining both tools can improve self-awareness, team collaboration, and career decisions.Topics explored in this episode: (00:40) Nouns vs. Verbs: The Core Difference* MBTI describes yo...
2025-06-0329 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni243. Overcoming the "I’m Not Enough" TrapWhy do so many successful leaders struggle with the feeling of "not being enough"? And how can leaders shift away from a scarcity mindset?In episode 243 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the pervasive feeling of inadequacy among leaders. They discuss how a "not enough" mindset can drive individuals to seek validation through constant achievement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, self-awareness, and shifting from a fear-based to a joy-based approach to life and work.Topics explored in this episode: (0:49) The Prevalence of "I'm Not E...
2025-05-2722 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni87. “Quit Your Job” and Start Living Your GeniusHow can understanding and embracing your Working Genius help you redefine your concept of “work” and “retirement”?In episode 87 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson take on the increasingly common desire to quit work or retire early, questioning whether it's truly the job people want to escape—or the lack of fulfillment in how they work. Pat and Cody also explore how Working Genius can offer clarity and help people rediscover joy and meaning in their work. Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Rethinking the Desire to Quit* How many p...
2025-05-2016 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni86. Preemptive Vulnerability: Turning Your Quirks into ConnectionWhat does “preemptive vulnerability” mean, why is it essential in leadership, and how can it build trust within a team?In episode 86 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explore the concept of "preemptive vulnerability"—the practice of leading with humility before you're forced to. They reflect on how leaders can build deeper trust and connection by proactively admitting weaknesses, asking for help, and owning mistakes. With real-life examples and signature humor, they unpack how this small but courageous step can change everything for teams.Topics explored in this episode: (00:3...
2025-05-0635 min
At The Table with Patrick Lencioni241. Beware of SuccessWhat happens when the external validation of your success conflicts with your internal values and purpose? In episode 241 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the hidden dangers of traditional success metrics. They also discuss how businesses and individuals can lose their way when they chase recognition that doesn’t align with their original purpose.Topics explored in this episode: (0:40) The Michelin Star Story* How a small restaurant in Italy gave up its Michelin star to stay true to its identity.(4...
2025-04-2920 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni85. Don’t Fake It Till You Make It: Why Honesty Beats PretendingWhy is it dangerous to "fake it till you make it" when it comes to your Working Genius?In episode 85 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore the pitfalls of "faking it till you make it," particularly in the context of the six Working Geniuses. They discuss how pretending to possess certain geniuses—especially Galvanizing, Enabling, and Tenacity—can lead to burnout and dissatisfaction, even if it seems successful in the short term. They also emphasize the importance of aligning work with your natural geniuses for long-term fulfillment and success. Topics explored in this...
2025-04-2219 min
The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick LencioniHumility is the BoosterHow does humility enhance the application of your Working Geniuses in both personal and professional settings?Humility is the secret ingredient that elevates teamwork, leadership, and productivity. In this episode, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore how humility acts as a booster within the Working Genius framework. They also discuss why embracing humility allows you to work more effectively within your strengths while also building stronger, more cohesive teams.Topics explored in this episode: (03:03) What is Humility?*Humility enhances an individual’s ability to utilize their natural talents.(11:05) Why Hum...
2025-04-0824 min
At The Table with Patrick LencioniDoes Fear or Joy Drive Your Leadership Style?How can we start to address unresolved challenges in our lives that impact people profoundly and sometimes in painful ways? In this episode, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson discuss the podcast's return after a six-month break, and a shift in content to include broader societal and cultural issues. Pat also shares his personal journey of self-discovery, focusing on addressing his own wounds and trauma, and explores how this deeply personal work relates to leadership and organizational health.Topics explored in this episode: * (8:04) The Impact of Wounds on Leadership* How fear can dr...
2025-04-0123 min
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)Patrick Lencioni: Build an A-Team with Working Genius | Leadership E306Patrick Lencioni realized they struggled with innovation because he was the only one with the “invention” working genius. This pushed him to rethink his team’s roles and align them with their strengths. The result? A surge in collaboration and creativity, proving the power of the Working Genius framework. In this episode, Patrick shares how to apply the Working Genius model to unlock your team’s full potential and foster a culture of innovation and effectiveness. Patrick Lencioni is one of the founders of The Table Group and the pioneer of the organizational health movement. He is the author of 13 bo...
2024-09-0239 min
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)Patrick Lencioni: Maximize Joy in Your Career by Learning Your Working Genius | Productivity E305For two decades, Patrick Lencioni bounced between excitement and frustration at work. Driven to understand the root of his frustration, he discovered that while there are six types of work, he only truly enjoyed two. This insight led to the creation of the Working Genius model. Recognizing its universal value, Patrick and his team developed an assessment to help individuals and teams identify their natural strengths and focus on the work that energizes them. In this episode, Patrick reveals how understanding your Working Genius can transform your approach to work, prevent burnout, and boost productivity.
2024-08-2654 min
The Disrupted WorkforceWhy Patrick Lencioni Believes Human Interaction in the Office is Still Crucial in 2024 & BeyondHas your team lost its spark working remotely? As our modern workforce becomes increasingly reliant on remote setups, we’re also witnessing the pitfalls of reducing human interaction and its impact on organizational health.
The human touch is vital for fueling creativity and collaboration, and to champion office presence along with a better comprehension of individual strengths is our distinguished guest — Patrick Lencioni.
Patrick is one of the founders of The Table Group and a best-selling author of 13 books, including the latest, “The 6 Types of Working Genius.” His books have been translated into 30 languages, with over 8 m...
2024-07-1854 min
Speaking to InfluencePatrick Lencioni, The Table Group: Unleashing the Six Types of Working GeniusIn this episode, Dr. Laura Sicola interviews Patrick Lencioni, author of The Five Dysfunctions of a Team and The Six Types of Working Genius. They discuss the importance of trust, vulnerability, and conflict in teams, as well as the six types of working genius. Patrick shares personal experiences and insights, providing valuable advice for effective communication and leadership. The conversation explores the five dysfunctions of a team, emphasizing the importance of trust, healthy conflict, commitment, accountability, and attention to results. It also delves into the significance of effective communication, vulnerability, and understanding individual working genius.
2024-06-1144 min
eCommerce EvolutionEpisode 277 - 10 Siblings, 11 Retail Stores, 1 Amazing BrandBrett Curry (https://www.linkedin.com/in/thebrettcurry/) talks to Jimmy Sansone (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-sansone-aa80b881/) about the founding story of The Normal Brand.__Sponsored by OMG Commerce - go to (https://www.omgcommerce.com/contact) and request your FREE strategy session today!__Chapters: (00:00) Introduction and Jimmy’s Background(11:42) Early Days of The Normal Brand(15:51) Working with Family (22:09) Expansion Into Retail Stores(25:03) Benefits of Having Your Own Stores(32:25) Mistakes Made Along The Way(34:46) Culture and...
2024-04-1039 min
Always Better than Yesterday with Ryan Hartley | A Podcast for Heart Centred LeadersEp 256 Interview Sessions with Patrick Lencioni | The Six Types of Working GeniusOn episode 256 I am joined by Patrick Lencioni.
For twenty-five years, Patrick Lencioni has been working with teams to help them become more cohesive, effective and successful. In 1997, he founded the Table Group, a firm dedicated to making organizations healthier and work more dignifying.
Pat has written 13 best-selling business books on the topics of teamwork, leadership and culture (including The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, The Advantage, and The Ideal Team Player) which have sold over 8 million copies and been translated into more than 30 languages.
In 2020, Pa...
2024-04-031h 00
The OrgHealth PodcastCreating Culture with Gifts - ft. Kris Rudeegraap, CEO of SendosoJim sits down with Kris Rudeegraap of Sendoso, a sending platform that delivers gifts with personalized care. What goes into making gifts feel special? What solutions are there for leaders who want to show their care but aren't "good at gifts"? And what has it looked like for Kris to build a company with a culture of fun that has risen to incredible success in only a few years? Connect further: Jim Brown’s LinkedIn – http://bit.ly/2Fqs9LU Guest Kris Rudeegraap's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rudeegraap/...
2022-04-2941 min
The Governance GuysEpisode 5: The Imperfect Board Member with Jim BrownJim Brown, author of The Imperfect Board Member sits down with Paul and Andrew to discuss why he thinks Boards are important, what Board members can do to step up their game, and how seven disciplines can move us towards governance excellence. Jim’s book is available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008N9J50G/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 , his podcast is called “OrgHealth” … Continue reading Episode 5: The Imperfect Board Member with Jim Brown
2020-06-1045 minThe OrgHealth PodcastHumble, Hungry, Smart Leadership TeamsHiring and firing are… expensive, among other adjectives. Pat Lencioni’s book, The Ideal Team Player, provides a simple but incredibly helpful framework that can help leaders find the right people to join their teams, and also works as a great tool for reflection and growth. In this episode, Jim and Margot discuss the model and share stories and tips for how you can use this tool not only to find the ideal team players, but to become the ideal leadership team. What you’ll learn:The “Ideal Team Player” model [01:5...
2020-04-0223 minThe OrgHealth PodcastHow to Run Weekly Tactical Meetings Pt 2In Part 2, Margot and Jim cover steps 4-6 of the weekly tactical meeting. Imagine having a fruitful meeting as a leadership team every week that NEVER goes more than 90 minutes. That’s really the whole point of this, and it’s structured to make sure that’s exactly what happens! What you’ll learn:Review the first 3 stages of tactical meetings [00:01:14]Introduction to Stage 4: Discussion [00:02:42]What to do with big topics that arise [00:02:56]What to do with decisions that are made [00:03:45]What to do if/when team dynamics issues arise [00:05:11]The closin...
2020-03-2613 minThe OrgHealth PodcastHow to Run Weekly Tactical Meetings Pt 1It's not surprising that leadership teams abandon weekly meetings—it's so rare to see teams running these meetings effectively! In this episode, Margot and Jim present the framework which leans on the Thematic Goal and gives leadership teams the ability to run productive, energized weekly meetings together in just 90 minutes. We'll take two episodes to cover this topic, so make sure you listen in for both! What you’ll learn:What is a weekly tactical meeting? [00:00:57]What’s a thematic goal? [00:02:37]How do you run a tactical meeting? [00:04:17]What’s the “lightning r...
2020-03-1910 minThe OrgHealth PodcastDaily Standup MeetingsHow do you catch issues before they blow up, keep from building silos between different departments, and even lower the amount of emails you receive in a day? The daily standup meeting. Jim and Margot continue their series on meetings and explain how to not let these meetings go ANY longer than 10 minutes—because if it does, you're not doing it right! What you’ll learn:Are daily meetings really worth it? [00:47]How to do daily standup meetings well [04:29]Challenges encountered with daily standup meetings and how to overcome them [05:47]The purpose of daily meeti...
2020-03-1213 minThe OrgHealth PodcastStrategic MeetingsThere are topics that come up for every leadership team that take longer than 10 minutes to get through. But even the biggest questions and decisions to be made can be tackled well in just 90 minutes, with the right approach. Strategic meetings are the first of the three foundational meeting types that will enable your leadership team to actually spend less time in meetings and get more done. What you’ll learn:The three meeting types [00:58]What should a strategic meeting look like? [02:49]How to prepare for a strategic meeting [06:23]The important roles tha...
2020-03-0514 minThe OrgHealth PodcastVulnerability & LeadershipThe paradigm shift in society and our workforce in the past twenty years means that using the old model of leaders presenting themselves as impenetrable, perfect, and having all the answers no longer works. Margot and Jim get very candid as they talk about the ways they are seeing vulnerability impact leadership teams and how leaders can enter into it more. What you’ll learn:A common misconception about vulnerability [00:01:02]Where to begin with embracing vulnerability at the leadership level [00:03:01]Why a lack of vulnerability in leadership decreases effectiveness in our...
2020-02-2721 minThe OrgHealth PodcastPeople-Focus vs Analysis-Focus, Part 3Correcting the imbalance on leadership teams is challenging, but possible. In the closing episode of our series on the dynamics of people-focus and analysis-focus, Jim and Margot share practical steps for how people-focus leaders can communicate their data to analysis-focus leaders, an exercise leadership teams can do to create better understanding of and value for each other's differences, and share some relevant examples.What you’ll learn:People-focus leaders in the C-suite don’t get the respect that analysis-focus leaders do, and they know it. It’s not a competence issue, but a wiri...
2020-02-1815 minThe OrgHealth PodcastPeople Focus vs Analysis Focus, Part 2What is the data that people focus leaders see instantly and most leadership teams are sorely blind to? How do leadership teams get that perspective and information into their meetings so better decisions can be made? In Part 2, Jim and Margot share some stories of how real leaders and teams are succeeding with improving the disturbing imbalance of information in most leadership meetings. What you’ll learn: The MBTI is a tool we use with teams to identify and talk about the differences between people focus and analysis focus wiring. [00:02:51 - 00...
2020-02-1315 minThe OrgHealth PodcastPeople Focus vs Analysis Focus: Part 1People are wired to have either more of an analysis focus or a people focus. In this first part of our 3-part series on these two different wirings that leaders have, Jim and Margot introduce the terminology and explain some of the differences, similarities, and common misconceptions leaders have about each other and themselves. Consider your own wiring and the composition of your own leadership team.The Problem of ImbalanceLeaders everywhere are facing a problem. They develop and are rewarded for select skills as they work their way up the...
2020-02-0615 minThe OrgHealth PodcastHow Conflict Norms Produce Faster Meetings and Better DecisionsConflict already exists every time team members gather for a meeting. The goal is to get all the conflicting opinions and perspectives out on the table and to make a decision that everyone is comfortable committing to. Conflict norms are an incredibly effective way of making sure that happens, and in this episode Jim and Margot will share 5 specific conflict norms to consider implementing on your team. Example 1: Real-Time Permission § A team member interrupts discussion in real time to point out positive behaviour and reinforce it for the whole group.§ Helps...
2020-01-3015 minThe OrgHealth PodcastCollaboration vs Hoarding in Team MeetingsGetting all the information on the table so decisions can be made accurately and effectively is the purpose of team meetings. But lots of senior leadership teams experience about a third of the team members doing 80% of the talking, and valuable information gets left out—sometimes intentionally as a power play, and sometimes unintentionally. In this episode we’ll address how valuable information and perspective gets kept out of the discussion and what you can do to get it back in. What We Mean by Hoarding§ Some people are wired to express...
2020-01-3022 minThe OrgHealth PodcastMake It Happen IN the MeetingJust about every leader feels like they have too many meetings. But one of the biggest ways leaders can make their time more effective is by cutting out the side conversations, the “meetings outside the meeting” and making sure all the conversations that need to happen take place WITHIN team meetings and with the whole team’s engagement.What you’ll learn in this episode:Why team members prefer side conversations instead of bringing things up in the meeting.How to have accountability conversations within meetings well.How a solution-minded team is differen...
2020-01-3020 min