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ChinaTalkMAGA-Mao Connections with Orville SchellWhat can Mao Zedong teach us about Donald Trump?
To find out, ChinaTalk interviewed the legendary sinologist Orville Schell, who visited China during the Cultural Revolution and is currently at the Asia Society.
We discuss…
Mao Zedong’s psychology and political style,
Similarities and differences between Mao and Trump,
How Mao-era traumas reverberate in modern China, including how the Cultural Revolution has influenced the Xi family,
How Zhou Enlai and Deng Xiaoping survived the Cultural Revolution, and which of their tactics could be useful in modern America,
...2025-05-231h 18ChinaTalkMAGA-Mao Connections with Orville SchellWhat can Mao Zedong teach us about Donald Trump?
To find out, ChinaTalk interviewed the legendary sinologist Orville Schell, who visited China during the Cultural Revolution and is currently at the Asia Society.
We discuss…
Mao Zedong’s psychology and political style,
Similarities and differences between Mao and Trump,
How Mao-era traumas reverberate in modern China, including how the Cultural Revolution has influenced the Xi family,
How Zhou Enlai and Deng Xiaoping survived the Cultural Revolution, and which of their tactics could be useful in modern America,
...2025-05-231h 18
US and China Relations TrackerNavigating the Treacherous Terrain of U.S.-China Trade Tensions: Strategies for Global Economic StabilityIn recent years, the relationship between the United States and China has become increasingly complex and fraught with challenges, particularly in the realm of trade. Orville Schell, director of the Center on U.S.-China Relations at the Asia Society, has shed light on the escalating trade war between these two global economic powerhouses. Schell observes that the trade tensions are a manifestation of the deeper strategic and economic competition emerging between the U.S. and China. The disputes have resulted in both countries imposing tariffs on each other’s goods, affecting a wide range of industries and pu...2025-05-0502 min
Wenbin Fang's Podcast PlaylistFrom Mao to Xi Jinping: A Conversation with Orville Schell Podcast: Face-Off: The U.S. vs China (LS 44 · TOP 1% what is this?)Episode: From Mao to Xi Jinping: A Conversation with Orville SchellPub date: 2025-04-24Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationIn a special bonus episode recorded live at the Asia Society, host Jane Perlez speaks with journalist and scholar Orville Schell about his 50 years covering Chinese leaders and their American counterparts. They attempt to answer the question: how did we get here?Recorded live at The Asia Socie...2025-04-2559 min
Face-Off: The U.S. vs ChinaFrom Mao to Xi Jinping: A Conversation with Orville SchellIn a special bonus episode recorded live at the Asia Society, host Jane Perlez speaks with journalist and scholar Orville Schell about his 50 years covering Chinese leaders and their American counterparts. They attempt to answer the question: how did we get here?Recorded live at The Asia Society on April 8, 2025 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices2025-04-2459 min
Grey Matter with Michael KrasnyOrville Schell - China and Russia Linked in GrudgesTik Tok and data acquisition, scary topics on China up ahead. Michael Krasny featured leading Sinologist Orville Schell and began by asking Schell for his response to the Trump administration's imposed tariffs and their potential effects on a possible trade war, fentanyl out of China and U.S. China relations. Schell spoke of Xi Jinping's irrational actions and what appears to bind him and Putin together and Krasny asked Schell if he foresaw a role for Beijing brokering a peace between Russia and Ukraine. Krasny then proceeded to ask Schell about Tik Tok, data acquisition by China, Chinese surveillance...2025-02-1257 min
Keep TalkingEpisode 137: Orville Schell - Will The Chinese People Ever Be Free?Orville Schell is an author, a journalist, a China scholar, and the director of the Asia Society's Center on U.S.-China Relations.------------Book Dan to do an interview or a meeting------------Keep Talking SubstackSpotifyApple PodcastsSocial media and all episodes------------Support via VenmoSupport on SubstackSupport on Patreon------------(00:00) Intro(01:00) Orville's entering China in the 1970s(07:10) Was was China like in the 1970...2025-01-1058 min
The DivideWho will hold China accountable for its human rights abuses? (feat. Orville Schell)When diplomats at the United Nations pressed China to address allegations of human rights abuses in Xinjiang, Chinese state-run media launched a fervent counter-attack, accusing the US and EU of "politicizing and applying double standards to human rights issues."
In this episode, Mr. Orville Schell talks about China's historical relationship with nationalism, how Stanford University is finding itself in a legal battle with the Chinese Communist Party, and the possibilities of influencing China's human rights policies, as well as his latest book, "My Old Home." This novel, while a departure from his previous non-fiction works, continues to prov...2024-09-2700 min
The DivideThe tangled US-China relations: when neither engagement nor isolation is the right answer (feat. Orville Schell)U.S.-China relations have cooled significantly in recent years, defying the expectations of U.S. foreign policy strategists since the 1970s, when there was a prevailing belief that engagement and trade would gradually bring the two countries closer and encourage China to become more open and less authoritarian. That didn't happen.
In this episode, historian Orville Schell, the Arthur Ross Director of the Center on U.S.-China Relations at the Asia Society, delves into the complexities of U.S.-China relations. He discusses the historical concept of engagement and explains why decades of diplomatic efforts an...2024-09-2000 min
Peking Hotel with Liu HeReal Ideals and False Hopes: Seeing China in the Vietnam War — with Orville SchellArriving at Orville’s place takes you through a scenic drive on the Berkeley Hills. Quintessential to the Bay Area, driving on the steep, winding roads feels like the slow climbing of a rollercoaster. At the summit, glimpses of the Golden Gates Bridge peek through the misty clouds. On a clear day, the urban sprawl of San Francisco, Berkeley and Albany unfolds beneath you; even on a rainy day, the charming neighbourhoods with Berkeley Bungalows more than make up for the long drive from Palo Alto.Orville Schell will be familiar to our returning readers. We have fe...2024-09-1055 min
Peking Hotel with Liu HeI Was Locked In A Cave On My First Trip to China — with Orville SchellWelcome back!My first piece on Orville’s experience in the 80s had good reader reception, many thanks to your support! This piece focuses on Orville's story in the 60s and 70s working on China. Orville Schell is the Director of Center on US-China Relations at the Asia Society.In this one, you will hear about Orville’s grandfather who taught medicine in Changsha in late qing; his semi-activist mom; studying with John Fairbank at Harvard; drinking tea with Chiang Kai-shek in Taipei; locked in a cave by CCP officials on his first trip to Chin...2024-07-0359 min
Peking Hotel with Liu HeDeng Xiaoping, Democracy Wall, and the Dialetics of China — with Orville SchellOrville Schell on his experience in China in the 1980s, a magical decade in recent history that brought hope, optimism, dynamism and endless possibilities in China, and ended with Tiananmen Massacre.The Peking Hotel podcast and newsletter are a bilingual online publication that takes you down memory lane of recent history in China, and narrates China’s reality through the personal tales of China experts. We present subjective, opinionated, and coloured views of veterans in the field based on their first-hand experience and direct observations. The project grew out of Leo’s research at Hoover Institution where he c...2024-05-2539 min
White House ChronicleThe end of U.S.-China engagementWriter and scholar Orville Schell began his study of China well before President Nixon's historic trip to China in 1972, ending 25 years of isolation between the United States and China, and resulting in establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries in 1979. Schell discusses "the end of U.S.-China engagement" with Host Llewellyn King and Co-host Adam Clayton Powell III.2024-05-0327 min
GeoTech WarsInside Beijing with China Scholar Orville SchellIn this episode of GeoTech Wars, Kirt is joined by Orville Schell, Director of the Center on U.S.-China Relations at Asia Society. The conversation examines Xi Jinping's worldview and why China has shifted course after decades of economic growth driven by globalization.2024-04-0224 min
Asia In-DepthThe United States, China, and the Future of the Global Order with Kishore Mahbubani and Orville SchellNEW YORK, March 21, 2024 — Asia Society Policy Institute, in partnership with Perry World House at the University of Pennsylvania, hosts a discussion on the U.S.-China relationship and how it impacts global trends. Speakers include Kishore Mahbubani, 2023-24 Schlager visiting fellow at the University of Pennsylvania's Perry World House; and Orville Schell, Arthur Ross director of the Asia Society’s Center on U.S.-China Relations. Rorry Daniels, managing director of Asia Society Policy Institute, moderates the conversation.Asia Inside Out brings together our team and special guests to take you beyond the latest policy headlines and prov...2024-04-011h 10
Asia Inside OutThe United States, China, and the Future of the Global Order with Kishore Mahbubani and Orville SchellNEW YORK, March 21, 2024 — Asia Society Policy Institute, in partnership with Perry World House at the University of Pennsylvania, hosts a discussion on the U.S.-China relationship and how it impacts global trends. Speakers include Kishore Mahbubani, 2023-24 Schlager visiting fellow at the University of Pennsylvania's Perry World House; and Orville Schell, Arthur Ross director of the Asia Society’s Center on U.S.-China Relations. Rorry Daniels, managing director of Asia Society Policy Institute, moderates the conversation.Asia Inside Out brings together our team and special guests to take you beyond the latest policy headlines and prov...2024-03-291h 10
Democracy IRLYear-End Review of Global Democracy with Larry DiamondLarry Diamond once again joins Francis Fukuyama for a year-end review to discuss the state of global democracy as 2023 draws to a close. Diamond also recounts his Seymour Martin Lipset Lecture, the 20th iteration of the annual lecture series named in honor of the famed political scientist and sociologist Seymour Martin Lipset, sponsored jointly by the National Endowment for Democracy, the Munk School at the University of Toronto, and the Canadian Embassy.Larry Diamond is the William L. Clayton Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, the Mosbacher Senior Fellow in Global Democracy at the Freeman...2024-01-0553 min
GeopolcastThe dynamics of Geopolitics and China In this episode of Geopolcast, Elisabeth Braw, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, navigates the complex dynamics between Geopolitics and China with, Orville Schell, the Director of the Center on US & China Relations and, David Hoile, Global Head of Asset Research at WTW. We reflect on the journey China has taken since the 70’s and explore China’s ever-evolving Geopolitical landscape, understanding how worsening relations are impacting Western companies and the operational repercussions this is having organisations.2023-12-1129 min
GeopolcastThe dynamics of Geopolitics and China In this episode of Geopolcast, Elisabeth Braw, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, navigates the complex dynamics between Geopolitics and China with, Orville Schell, the Director of the Center on US & China Relations and, David Hoile, Global Head of Asset Research at WTW. We reflect on the journey China has taken since the 70’s and explore China’s ever-evolving Geopolitical landscape, understanding how worsening relations are impacting Western companies and the operational repercussions this has on organisations. Disclaimer (US sites only) WTW offers insurance-related services through its appropriately licensed and authorised companies in each...2023-11-1529 min
Background Briefing with Ian MastersNovember 12, 2023 - Lisa Graves | Orville Schell | James Van NostrandSenate Republicans Protect the Powerful From the Public | A Preview of the Biden/Xi Summit in San Francisco | Will the Saboteur Joe Manchin Deliver Biden a Fatal Blow?
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Berkeley TalksChinese activist Ai WeiWei on art, exile and politicsIn Berkeley Talks episode 181, renowned artist and human rights activist Ai WeiWei discusses art, exile and politics in a conversation with noted theater director and UCLA professor Peter Sellars and Orville Schell, director of the Center on U.S.-China Relations at the Asia Society and former dean of Berkeley's Graduate School of Journalism.Ai, who grew up in northwest China under harsh conditions because of his poet father's exile, is openly critical of the Chinese government's stance on democracy and human rights. He is well-known for his provocative works, including his 2014-15 installation on San Francisco Ba...2023-10-061h 29
The Final ServiceChina’s Dream of Global DominanceThe aftermath of the Chinese surveillance balloon saga reveals a growing diplomatic divide between the US and China. Where does this mistrust come from? In “Wealth and Power,” authors Orville Schell and John Delury argue that foreign humiliation over the past century and a half is the story that holds China together. They join host Ray Suarez to discuss China’s quest for global dominance. Guests: John Delury, US Professor of Chinese Studies at Yonsei University in Seoul, South Korea Orville Schell, director of the Cent...2023-08-2853 minThe Final ServiceChina’s Dream of Global DominanceThe aftermath of the Chinese surveillance balloon saga reveals a growing diplomatic divide between the US and China. Where does this mistrust come from? In “Wealth and Power,” authors Orville Schell and John Delury argue that foreign humiliation over the past century and a half is the story that holds China together. They join host Ray Suarez to discuss China’s quest for global dominance. Guests: John Delury, US Professor of Chinese Studies at Yonsei University in Seoul, South Korea Orville Schell, director of the Cent...2023-08-2853 minBackground Briefing with Ian MastersAugust 9, 2023 - Carol Sanger | Orville Schell | Josh KurlantzickA Resounding Defeat of an Anti-Abortion Power Grab in Ohio | What Genuine Peace Efforts Can be Taken Following Revelations in the NY Times That An American Peace Group Appears to be Shilling for the Chinese Communist Party | An Examination of the Chinese Government's Global Influence Campaigns
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The Foreign Affairs InterviewWhat Drives Putin and Xi (Part Two)Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin loom over geopolitics in a way that few leaders have in decades. Not even Mao and Stalin drove global events the way Xi and Putin do today. Who they are, how they view the world, and what they want are some of the most important and pressing questions in foreign policy and international affairs.
Stephen Kotkin and Orville Schell are two of the best scholars to explore these issues. Kotkin is the author of seminal scholarship on Russia, the Soviet Union, and global history, including an acclaimed three-volume b...2023-07-1352 minThe Foreign Affairs InterviewWhat Drives Putin and Xi (Part One)Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin loom over geopolitics in a way that few leaders have in decades. Not even Mao and Stalin drove global events the way Xi and Putin do today. Who they are, how they view the world, and what they want are some of the most important and pressing questions in foreign policy and international affairs.
Stephen Kotkin and Orville Schell are two of the best scholars to explore these issues. Kotkin is the author of seminal scholarship on Russia, the Soviet Union, and global history, including an acclaimed three-volume b...2023-06-3031 min
The Ezra Klein ShowFareed Zakaria on Where Russia’s War in Ukraine Stands — and Much MoreA lot about the world has changed since February 2022, when Russia invaded Ukraine. The war itself has brought a number of surprises, from the tenacity of Ukraine’s resistance to the limits of Western sanctions. Meanwhile, competition between the United States and China has escalated into something resembling a new Cold War, India just surpassed China as the most populous country in the world and countries representing about two-thirds of the world’s population have chosen not to align themselves with the U.S. position on the Russia-Ukraine conflict.Those shifts raise a number of important questions: Wher...2023-06-021h 30Grey Matter with Michael KrasnyOrville Schell - The Enigma of XiIt seems that China is in the news every day. To dig in deeper on this issue, we met with Orville Schell - one of the world's foremost experts on China and US/Sino relations - to help us understand the Chinese perspective and to learn more about China's leader, Xi Jinping. We dove deep into China's radical successes, its challenges, its resilience, its leverage, its sense of grievance and victimization, its anti-Western diplomacy, and its troubling aspirations. It has become the strongest member of an autocratic block of nations positioned to resist liberal democracy throughout the world. Despite this...2023-05-0957 min
Geografia em Meia HoraDescontruindo Dalai Lama e o Tibet🇨🇳☸ Desconstruindo Dalai Lama e o Tibet
💣💥🙏🏻 O Tibet é realmente aquele lugar idílico, fantasiado por hollywood e por muitos de nós ao longo da vida? O Dalai Lama é uma figura sacra e por isso, perfeita? O Budismo não tem suas incongruências bem como qualquer outra religião?
🎙️ Nesse episódio do G30 o Vitin (@vitingeo) trabalha com os seguintes tópicos:
✅ Desconstrução histórica sobre o Tibet enquanto lugar idílico
✅ Descontrução de Dalai Lama e do Budismo enquanto religão sem extremismo
✅ Análises sobre o avanço tibetano pós fuga de Dalai...2023-04-1733 min
ChinaTalkSchell on The Long Arc of US-China and Long Reach of LeninismHow did Xi Jinping’s formative years influence how he views the world today? Veteran China scholar Orville Schell, the Arthur Ross Director of the Center on U.S.-China Relations, looks back at decades of writing and working on China, weathering the cycles of the country opening up and shutting down and gives his two cents on what’s going on in Xi’s head.We also discuss— Why Mao Zedong is a better read than Xi— China’s reciprocity problem on the international stage— How US officials reacted to Tiananmen in a sec...2023-04-141h 19ChinaTalkSchell on The Long Arc of US-China and Long Reach of LeninismHow did Xi Jinping’s formative years influence how he views the world today? Veteran China scholar Orville Schell, the Arthur Ross Director of the Center on U.S.-China Relations, looks back at decades of writing and working on China, weathering the cycles of the country opening up and shutting down and gives his two cents on what’s going on in Xi’s head.We also discuss— Why Mao Zedong is a better read than Xi— China’s reciprocity problem on the international stage— How US officials reacted to Tiananmen in a sec...2023-04-141h 19Democracy IRLYear-End Wrap-Up: The State of Global Democracy, with Larry DiamondAs 2022 comes to a close, Francis Fukuyama sits down with his CDDRL colleague and democracy expert Larry Diamond for a wide-ranging conversation about the state of global democracy and the year's dramatic political developments in China, Iran, and the United States.Larry Diamond is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, the Mosbacher Senior Fellow in Global Democracy at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies (FSI), and a Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education at Stanford University. He is also a professor by courtesy of Political Science and Sociology at Stanford. His research focuses...2022-12-161h 02
Sinica PodcastGrifter, chaos agent, or CCP spy? The New Yorker's Evan Osnos on Guo WenguiThis week on Sinica, Evan Osnos, staff writer for The New Yorker, joins hosts Kaiser Kuo and Jeremy Goldkorn to talk about his new piece on one of the most puzzling figures to come out of China: Guo Wengui, a.k.a. Miles Kwok, who took what he learned about dealing with power and money in China and applied those lessons to the U.S., insinuating himself with leading figures of the American right. Who is this mysterious man, and what is he really after? In an unscripted episode that will bring some listeners back to the grotty apartment i...2022-10-2758 min
Christ Presbyterian Church | Old Hickory BlvdThe Original Chariots of Fire - Scott Sauls - July 10, 20222 Kings 2:1-14
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Rick Warren, The Purpose Driven Life2022-07-0934 min
Jim Foster: Conversations On The CoastSchell and Delury: Wealth and Power: China's Long March to the Twenty-first CenturyIn "Wealth and Power: China's Long March to the Twenty-first Century," authors Orville Schell and John Delury write about China's resurgence on the world stage by examining several influential people from varied backgrounds that help bring about the modern China known today. This discussion took place on a 2013 episode of "Conversations On The Coast with Jim Foster" originating in San Francisco, California.2022-04-2422 min
WSJ Opinion: Free ExpressionOrville SchellWall Street Journal Editor at Large Gerry Baker speaks this week with author and scholar Orville Schell about whether China can put pressure on Russia to end the invasion of Ukraine and what effect it may have on Xi Jinping's own ambitions to forcibly reclaim Taiwan.
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The Kitchen Sisters PresentCoal + Ice: Visualizing the Climate CrisisCoal + Ice, a powerful global exhibition of photographs, videos, and immersive imagery that focuses on the climate crisis and provokes action is now on display in Washington DC through April 22, 2022.
Coal + Ice began in Beijing in 2011 with the unprecedented showing of images of Chinese coal miners taken by Chinese photographers. It has now now expanded to the work of 50 photographers from around the world, capturing images of the climate catastrophe as it unfolds around the globe.
Photographers and video artists include: Jimmy Chin, David Breashears, Song Chao, Camille Seaman, Gideon Mendel, Meredith Kohut, Jamey Stillings, Matt...2022-03-1518 minDemocracy IRLLarry Diamond on Election Reform: An Existential Issue for American Democracy"The future health, if not survival, of American democracy is in danger in a way that it hasn't been in our lifetime," warns Larry Diamond, who sat down with Francis Fukuyama to discuss voting rights, the Electoral Count Act, and what reforms are needed to avert a future political catastrophe.Larry Diamond is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, the Mosbacher Senior Fellow in Global Democracy at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies (FSI), and a Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education at Stanford University. He is also a professor by courtesy of...2022-02-2324 min
Asia In-DepthUnderstanding Amy Tan'The Joy Luck Club' author discusses her painful past, her successful career, and everything in between with Orville Schell.2022-01-2057 minAsia In-DepthOrville Schell's China JourneyThe director of Asia Society's Center on U.S.-China Relations talks with Mary Kay Magistad about his six decades observing China, in an episode celebrating the launch of the third edition of Asia Society Magazine. 2021-12-0942 min
The Archive ProjectOrville Schell (Rebroadcast)In this episode, we’re going back into the archive all the way to 1997 to bring you journalist and author Orville Schell. Since 1970, Schell has been reporting widely on China for mainstream newspapers and magazines like the New York Times, the New Yorker, and the Atlantic, to more academic publications like China Quarterly and Foreign Affairs.
At the time of this lecture, Schell was at work on a book entitled Virtual Tibet: Searching for Shangri-La from the Himalayas to Hollywood. That book and this talk are a kind of response to a cultural phenomenon at the time in...2021-08-0953 min
Sons of SequoyahLife of the Party by Orville Schell - Foreign Affairs Discussion - Episode 95We discuss Orville Schell's literature review of three books about the Chinese Communist Party in Foreign Affairs ahead of the CCP's 100th anniversary.2021-07-161h 09
Bay Area Book Festival PodcastWhen Everything Falls Apart, How Does the Heart Survive? Orville Schell and Yiyun Li on China, Tolstoy, and the Power of Art, with Adam HochschildA journalist and renowned expert on China, Schell has penned his first novel, drawing on his knowledge of Mao Zedong’s Cultural Revolution and on his conviction that art and love can outlive brutality. Joining him is MacArthur “genius” and award-winning writer Yiyun Li, who came of age during the bloody Tiananmen Square crackdown, emigrated to the U.S. at 23 as a young scientist, and eventually took the literary world by storm with her fiction, memoir and essays. This talk is moderated by Adam Hochschild.2021-07-161h 04
China Stories[The Wire China] The road to BeijingFifty years ago, a hand-delivered letter, a clueless ping-pong team and a series of artful signalling efforts led to a U.S-China breakthrough and a new international order. With the two countries again at a nadir, would a reprise of Kissinger-esque negotiations work again?Read the article by Orville Schell: https://www.thewirechina.com/2021/07/11/the-road-to-beijing/Narrated by Kaiser Kuo. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.2021-07-1339 min
Korea and the World#85 - John DeluryChina is a key player on the Korean peninsula: it is not only North Korea’s sole ally, but has also become South Korea’s most important trading partner. Yet, the relationship it has with both Korean states is fraught with tension. Beijing’s hold over Pyongyang has been weakening under the rule of Kim Jong-Un, and Seoul’s alliance with Washington seems to be at odds with Chinese interests. To understand the relationships China has with both Koreas, we sat down with Professor John Delury. We talked about China’s place in the world and its evolution...2021-07-0258 min