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Petra Wille & Teresa Torres
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All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Measurable Outcomes
Key topics we cover: Why not all outcomes need to be measurable—especially on day one Teresa’s story: shifting from “applications” to “hires” as a more meaningful outcome How to work toward measurable outcomes over time Petra Wille explains how the HEART framework can help teams track value, not just numbers The difference between metrics, signals, and goals How to define outcomes when you're pre-product or pre-metrics Why focusing on value creation moments leads to better product strategy What most people get wrong about “finding product-market fit” Resources & Links: Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org Follow Petr...
2025-06-03
13 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Giving and Taking in a Community
Topics Covered The Trend That Sparked This Episode: Petra flags a shift she’s noticing: more folks joining communities asking, “What can I get?” instead of, “How can I help?” Why Communities Matter: The unexpected long-term benefits of engaging in a community—and how the payoff often comes years down the road. The Origin Story of Petra & Teresa’s Connection: A short, enthusiastic conference interaction leads to years of collaboration and friendship. What Giving Actually Looks Like: The difference between offering value and unsolicited advice. (Spoiler: one builds trust, the other breaks it.) Behind the Scenes of Conferences & Course Communi...
2025-05-27
33 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Product vs. Project Operating Models
Topics Covered: The Big Question: Can product and project models run side by side? Defining the Operating Models: Breakdown of product vs. project models. Why outcomes vs. outputs matter. Why the Shift Happened: How the history of software delivery shaped our current challenges. When Project Models Still Make Sense: Examples like GDPR, accessibility, and other one-off initiatives. Gray Areas and Edge Cases: Accessibility, internal compliance, and examples from Petra’s course work. Framing Work as Product or Project: Why even product teams need to think in project terms sometimes. Working Cross-Functionally: How to collaborate with HR, Finance, and ot...
2025-05-20
14 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Saying No
Topics Covered: Why saying no is an essential part of being a product manager How to embrace the reality that there’s always more work than you can do Creating systems for capturing and evaluating ideas from anywhere Frameworks for deciding: Is it right for my team? Is it right right now? How to manage stakeholder expectations with transparency and regular rituals The difference between a hard no, a not yet, and an easy yes The importance of small wins and the value of a "Friday afternoon list" Balancing strategic focus with room for spontaneous moments of customer lo...
2025-05-13
22 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Leadership Professional Development
Topics Covered: Why the Product at Heart leadership event in Barcelona was canceled—and what it taught us The hidden stigma of coaching for leaders Vulnerability as a leadership skill The Learning Menu framework: how to invest in your development at any budget level From free resources to high-ticket coaching—how to choose the right growth path Reflection, journaling, and emotional resilience in product leadership The importance of finding your learning “dojo” How conferences offer more than just talks (think: peer benchmarking and teaching tactics) Ethical coaching boundaries and what happens when coaching reveals misalignment Resources & Links:...
2025-05-06
27 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Big Backlogs
Topics Covered: The problem with traditional prioritization models like ICE and RICE Why “avoid prioritization at all costs” is more than just a catchy phrase Comparing and contrasting vs. spreadsheet-driven guesswork Tactical ways to clean up your backlog: Auto-closing old tickets Archiving items no one understands Using themes, initiatives, and user group tagging The "Inbox Zero" approach to product management How to use strategic filters (outcomes + customer needs) instead of prioritizing everything The importance of early wins when inheriting a new product or team Time-boxed onboarding for product folks who are new to a team Real-world stories & examples: Petr...
2025-04-29
19 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Iterating on Product Strategy
Topics Covered What is product strategy anyway? The myth of the “explicit strategy” in most companies What discovery tells us about implicit strategy How product teams influence (and challenge) strategy Why writing any strategy down is better than none Shifting from top-down to emergent strategy The role of product leaders: Think customer interviews, but with your teams Balancing long-term macro trends with day-to-day user discovery Strategy ≠ roadmap: Keeping your plan for winning alive and adaptive Case studies: Intercom, Spotify, and strategy-in-action Product teams as strategic sensors: Patterns, signals, and customer segments Building strategy into quarterly and annual planning cadenc...
2025-04-22
21 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Crafting a Conference Talk
Topics Covered: Why more people should consider public speaking—and how to get started How Petra approaches talk creation: mind maps, card decks, and structured rehearsal Teresa’s top-down talk-building method focused on audience transformation What makes a good “first talk” (hint: show your work!) Why meetup organizers want to hear from new speakers—especially women and underrepresented voices Tips for managing stage fright, finding your voice, and choosing your topic How big-stage talks (like Product at Heart and Y Oslo) come together over months The surprising power of impromptu lines—and how to leave room for them Matching you...
2025-04-15
32 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Capacity Planning
Key Takeaways: Why capacity planning often fails outcome-driven teams How teams can self-align without overcommitting Reframing quarterly planning to support discovery work A listener call-to-action: what’s actually working for you? Resources & Links: Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com Mentioned in the episode: Capacity planning Product Discovery Basics: Everything You Need to Know Yesterday's Weather methodology The rocks, pebbles, and sand analogy The problem-solution-implementation-discovery model from Petra’s Coaching Illustrations Assumption Testing: Everything You Need to Know to Get Started Shifting from Outputs to Outcomes: Why It Matt...
2025-04-08
15 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
So Many Coaches
Topics Covered: Why the product coaching landscape feels so crowded right now The key coaching settings (individual vs. group vs. team coaching) When each setting makes the most sense (and what to watch out for) Types of product coaching: General Product Coaching Product Discovery Coaching Product Career Coaching Product Leadership Coaching The difference between a product leadership coach and an - executive coach How to approach coaching as part of your learning journey Should you or your company pay for coaching? How to get the most out of coaching (and avoid wasting your time or money) Resources...
2025-04-01
24 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Product Discovery: B2B vs. B2C
Topics Covered: Why discovery principles are consistent across B2B and B2C Incentives and recruiting differences in B2B contexts How to navigate buyer vs. end user dynamics The role of procurement, compliance, and legal in enterprise deals Why ecosystems matter more than labels like “B2B” or “B2C” The value of cross-role discovery and how to approach it Practical tips for accessing users in complex orgs Making friends with sales and customer success to unlock discovery opportunities Key Takeaway: B2B and B2C discovery share more in common than we often assume. It’s les...
2025-03-25
12 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Training vs. Coaching
Key Takeaways: Training ≠ Coaching. Training builds foundational knowledge and skills. Coaching helps you apply them in your unique context. Skill building takes structured practice. Reading a book isn’t enough—people need reps, feedback, and guided experiences. Coaching is most valuable when teams already have baseline skills and face org-specific blockers. You don’t need to be a certified coach to be effective. Experience in the craft and knowing how to support others in real-world contexts is often more important. Leaders need targeted learning, too. But leadership-specific product training is still hard to find. Resources & Links: Foll...
2025-03-18
18 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Product Discovery with Internal Customers
Topics Covered: Internal product teams often fall into the trap of collecting requirements through meetings, leading to solutions that don’t fully address user needs. The key challenge: Blurring the lines between stakeholders and end-users. Story-based interviews are crucial for understanding real user behavior and uncovering hidden pain points. Petra emphasizes the importance of stakeholder mapping: Identifying users, informed stakeholders, and sponsors. Teresa explains why internal teams have a unique advantage—proximity and access to users—and how to leverage it for continuous discovery. Process optimization is sensitive territory. Who owns the process? Who’s responsible for improving it? Outc...
2025-03-11
13 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Frameworks: When to Use Them, When to Break Them
Key Takeaways: Frameworks are helpful, but they’re not the answer to everything. Frameworks provide structure and guidance, especially for beginners. The mistake is treating them as rigid recipes rather than flexible tools. The real value lies in sparking conversations, not just filling out the canvas. Adapt frameworks to fit your team’s context. There’s no one-size-fits-all solution. Every team and organization is unique. Learn the framework first, then adapt it to your needs. Don’t be afraid to freestyle and connect the dots in a way that makes sense for your team. Break...
2025-03-04
20 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
AI-Generated Opportunity Solution Trees
Topics Covered: What are AI-generated Opportunity Solution Trees? The rise of Synthetic Users and AI-driven research tools Why AI can’t (and shouldn’t) replace human customer discovery Real vs. synthetic data: How AI-generated insights can mislead your product decisions The risks of using AI personas for usability testing Best practices for balancing AI and human-led research Resources & Links: Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com Mentioned in the episode: Synthetic Users Opportunity Solution Trees: Visualize Your Discovery to Stay Aligned and Drive Outcomes Don’t Use Generative AI to...
2025-02-25
18 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Deep Work
Key Takeaways: Deep work is essential but often deprioritized. Many product leaders know they should spend time on strategic thinking but struggle to justify it. Guilt is a major barrier. Many leaders feel bad about blocking off time for reflection, fearing it takes away from “real work.” Deep thinking improves team alignment. Setting aside time for structured thought helps leaders assess their team’s needs, challenges, and motivations. Strategy requires dedicated focus time. Updating or refining product strategy isn’t something you can do in 15-minute increments—it requires intentional, uninterrupted work. Protecting your calendar is a leadership skill. Bui...
2025-02-18
32 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
My Organization Doesn’t Work That Way
Key Takeaways: Working within your company’s framework doesn’t mean you’re a bad product manager Change happens incrementally—start with small wins to shift toward better practices Be mindful of elitist narratives in product communities that may discourage rather than inspire Resources & Links: Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com Mentioned in the episode: Everybody Can Do Continuous Discovery—Even You - Teresa’s talk at Product at Heart Product in Practice: All It Took Was One Product Trio To Inspire Change—The Hemnet Story Product Tank Continuou...
2025-02-11
21 min
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Podcast Preview
Teresa & Petra announce their new podcast. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why we decided to launch All Things Product Our approach: Unfiltered conversations vs. traditional interviews Resources & Links: Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com Mentioned in this episode: Lenny Rachitsky’s podcast: https://lennyspodcast.com Join the Conversation: Have thoughts on this episode? Leave a comment on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AllThingsProductPodcast
2025-02-03
03 min
Scandinavian Product Podcast
#20 The Ultimate Guide to Product Discovery | Teresa Torres (Product Talk) and Petra Wille (Strong Product People)
Today’s episode is particularly special.A 2-hour masterclass on discovery that every designer, product manager, founder, and product leader should hearWith bestselling authors Teresa Torres (Product Discovery Habits) and Petra Wille (Strong Product People) - two of my biggest references.My god, this was fun...!Is it the first long-format episode on discovery with 2 industry legends? Possibly...Will there be advanced lessons, golden practical nuggets, and plenty of spicy takes?Oh yes...The only thing I can say is: you're in for a tr...
2024-10-23
1h 56
Produktmenschen
#1.6 Frederike Räthke, Junior Product Managerin bei optimise-it
„Mein Traum ist es, in ferner Zukunft Führungskraft zu werden.“ Frederike Räthke ist eine frischgebackene Produktmanagerin. Als Kind träumte sie noch davon, Lehrerin zu werden. Warum sie stattdessen Wirtschaftswissenschaften studierte und übers HR schließlich ins Produkt fand, darüber sprechen wir in dieser Folge. Wir sprechen auch darüber, wie viel Spaß es dem Dorfkind bis heute macht, mit dem Trekker durch die Heimat zu cruisen und lernen, was ihr ihre Heimat bedeutet. Frederike erzählt, wie sie nach dem frühen Tod ihrer Mutter schon in jungen Jahren lernte, viel Verantwortung zu übernehmen und wie ihr diese E...
2021-11-02
1h 17