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On InvestingWhat Is the End Game for Tariffs?This week, Kevin Gordon fills in for Liz Ann Sonders while she is on vacation. Kevin and Kathy Jones discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on tariff implications, inflation concerns, labor market dynamics, and sector performance. They explore how these factors influence investment strategies and the overall economic outlook, emphasizing the importance of understanding underlying trends and potential volatility ahead.On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting. If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podca...2025-08-0129 minOn InvestingTrends in the Credit MarketsOn this week's episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss equity earnings season, continuing tariff uncertainty, and the fate of embattled Fed Chair Jerome Powell—emphasizing the importance of an independent Fed to both the stock and bond markets.Then, Kathy Jones and Collin Martin dive into the dynamics of the leveraged loan market, highlighting the recent surge in issuance despite anticipated interest rate hikes. They explore the unique characteristics of leveraged loans, including their floating coupon rates and sub-investment grade issuers, touching on the factors driving demand and the potential risks for investors. Additionally, they di...2025-07-2536 minOn InvestingDebt, Deficits & One Big Beautiful BillOn this week's episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the bond market reaction to the new August 1 tariff deadlines—and what that means for potential Fed policy. They also examine the impact of servicing the national debt after the passage of the "One Big Beautiful Bill." Liz Ann looks at the upcoming earnings season, while also addressing concerns about economic indicators, inflation, and the housing market. The overall discussion this week emphasizes the cautious sentiment among bond investors and the complexities of the economic landscape.On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For mor...2025-07-1124 minOn InvestingThe Markets Shrug at Geopolitics, for NowOn this week's episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the current state of the markets amid geopolitical tensions in the Middle East and the implications for oil prices and overall investor sentiment. Then, Kathy Jones sits down with Mike Townsend, Schwab's managing director of legislative and regulatory affairs, to discuss the evolving geopolitical landscape, particularly the U.S. involvement in the Middle East and its implications for foreign policy. They explore market reactions to recent conflicts, the current state of tariffs and trade negotiations, and the impact of immigration policies on labor markets. Additionally, they hig...2025-06-2747 minOn Investing‘Muddiness’ & Uncertainty in the Markets (With Cameron Dawson)Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss recent unemployment data, the upcoming Fed meeting, and the performance of the Magnificent 7 stocks. Then, Liz Ann Sonders and Cameron Dawson, Chief Investment Officer of NewEdge Wealth, discuss the “muddiness” in the current economic data and the overall landscape, focusing on inflation, tariffs, consumer behavior, corporate margins, and the outlook for earnings. They explore the complexities of the bond market, foreign demand for US securities, and the implications of corporate balance sheets on the economy. Their conversation also highlights the importance of international diversification and strategic portfolio construction in uncertain times...2025-06-1349 minOn InvestingHow Will Tariffs & Debt Affect the Economy?In this week’s episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the current state of tariffs and the ongoing trade war, the implications of budget bills on the economy, and insights into inflation and the labor market. They explore how tariffs are affecting economic indicators, the challenges in estimating tariff revenue, and the potential impact of upcoming economic reports on Federal Reserve policy.You can read Kathy’s midyear report, “Fixed Income Outlook: Cool and Cloudy” on Schwab.com. On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com...2025-06-0615 minOn InvestingWhy Does Sentiment Not Match Hard Data?In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current state of the bond market, the influence of central banks, and the impact of policy announcements on market dynamics. They explore consumer confidence, economic indicators, and the potential effects of upcoming labor data on market trends. The discussion highlights the volatility in the markets and the importance of understanding the interplay between policy and economic conditions.You can read the article on hard data vs. soft data by Liz Ann and Kevin Gordon on Schwab.com. On Investing is an original podcast from Cha...2025-05-3020 min
On InvestingNavigating the 'Funky' Market Environment (With Helene Meisler)Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss recent market moves potentially related to Washington budget negotiations and an increasing focus on debt and deficits. Then, Liz Ann Sonders interviews longtime market technician Helene Meisler. They delve into market mechanics, sentiment indicators, and the historical context of market trends, providing insights into the evolving landscape of investing. They also discuss the intricacies of market sentiment, technical analysis, and the implications of bond market trends and the dollar's performance. The conversation culminates in predictions for future market volatility and potential corrections, emphasizing the need for investors to remain vigilant and adaptable.2025-05-2351 minOn InvestingWhy Are Munis Attractive Right Now?Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the pause on some tariffs and the impact on the equities market. Then, Kathy interviews Cooper Howard about the features of municipal bonds in the current landscape. They explore the implications of federal funding on state and local governments and the challenges faced by higher-education institutions. The discussion also covers practical investment strategies for municipal bonds, including the importance of credit quality, diversification, and the considerations for investing in state versus in out-of-state bonds.On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.co...2025-05-1631 minOn InvestingShould the Fed Focus on Inflation or Unemployment?Kathy Jones and Collin Martin discuss the recent Federal Reserve meeting, the implications of their decisions on interest rates, and the current economic landscape. They delve into the risks of stagflation, market reactions, and the dynamics of the corporate and municipal bond markets. The discussion emphasizes the importance of focusing on income and yield in the bond market amid volatility and uncertainty.Finally, Kathy and Liz Ann discuss the data and economic indicators they will be watching in the coming week.On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, v...2025-05-0934 minOn InvestingThe State of Rates and the Bond Market During UncertaintyVolatility and uncertain economic outlooks continue to dominate the macroeconomic landscape. In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones consider the current state of the stock market, which has been characterized by significant price fluctuations. They explore the dynamics of the yield curve and the pressures on central bank independence amid political influences. The discussion also highlights the economic indicators that could impact market sentiment and investor behavior. Then, Kathy Jones and Collin Martin discuss the current status of the bond market, focusing on Treasury yields, the Federal Reserve's potential interest rate decisions, and investment strategies f...2025-04-2544 minOn InvestingWeathering Market Volatility: Can Dividends Help?In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones begin by discussing the current state of the markets, focusing on volatility, investor confidence, and the impact of trade policies. They explore how changing economic conditions and uncertainty are affecting investment strategies and corporate earnings guidance. The conversation also delves into the complexities of global trade dynamics and the Federal Reserve's cautious approach in navigating these challenges. Next, Liz Ann Sonders interviews Deane Antoniou, director and portfolio strategist for ThomasPartners. They discuss the complexities of retirement investing, emphasizing the importance of having a well-structured plan that considers both f...2025-04-1851 minOn InvestingMaking Sense of Recent Market VolatilityIn this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on the volatility in both the equity and bond markets. They analyze the impact of recent economic announcements, the role of the Federal Reserve, and the implications of trade deficits. The conversation also covers investment strategies in uncertain times and looks ahead to upcoming economic indicators that could shape market expectations.On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting. If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or...2025-04-0929 minOn InvestingTrends in the Labor Market & More Tariffs (With Nela Richardson)In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the latest round of tariffs issued by the Trump administration—and how they might impact the economy going forward. Then, Kathy sits down with Dr. Nela Richardson, the chief economist of ADP Research. They discuss the role of ADP in providing payroll services and employment data. They also cover the current trends in the labor market, the impact of immigration, and the demographic changes affecting the economy. They explore the dynamics of the manufacturing sector, the implications of AI on the future of work, and the importance of s...2025-04-0441 minOn InvestingConsidering the Risk of Stagflation & UncertaintyIn this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the recent FOMC meeting, focusing on the implications of the economic projections, the potential for stagflation, and the uncertainty surrounding current economic indicators. They delve into the Fed's quantitative tightening program and its adjustments, as well as the importance of various economic data points moving forward. The discussion highlights the challenges businesses face due to uncertainty and the need for clearer guidelines to navigate the economic landscape.Kathy and Liz Ann also discuss the data and economic indicators they will be watching in the coming week.2025-03-2118 minOn InvestingIs Recession on the Horizon?In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current sentiment in the market, contrasting consumer sentiment with investor sentiment amid economic uncertainty. They explore the implications of bearish investor attitudes and the potential for a recession and reflect on the anniversary of the COVID-19 pandemic's impact on the economy. The conversation also highlights key economic indicators to watch in the coming week, including retail sales and Fed decisions.Then, Liz Ann speaks with Kevin Gordon about the overall economic landscape, focusing on recession indicators, labor market dynamics, and the recent earnings season. They explore t...2025-03-1433 minOn InvestingRecent Questions From InvestorsIn this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders review some of the recent questions they have received from investors. Their questions and answers focus on the current economic landscape and cover topics ranging from bond yields to the impact of tariffs to the Federal Reserve's stance to the performance of key indexes and stocks. They explore the complexities of government debt, the dollar's reserve status, and the ongoing debate between growth and value stocks, providing insights into what investors should watch moving forward.Check out schwab.com/FAQs to see more frequently asked questions and whether a...2025-03-0734 minOn InvestingHeadwinds & Tailwinds in the Housing Market (With Ivy Zelman)Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the recent drawdown in markets and debate whether this is a growth scare or something more lasting in the bond market.What's the housing market outlook for 2025? Liz Ann Sonders interviews noted housing market expert Ivy Zelman, executive vice president and co-founder of Zelman & Associates. Ivy reflects on the unique economic cycle that has emerged since the pandemic, particularly its impact on the housing market. She highlights the significant migration trends, supply and demand dynamics, and the challenges of affordability. The discussion also touches on the role of pu...2025-02-2839 minOn InvestingDo Tariffs Change the Economic Outlook? (With Phil Mackintosh)In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders start out by discussing the latest developments in economic policy and tariffs. They also cover the latest inflation readings and their implications on the dollar and the Treasury market. Then, Liz Ann sits down with Phil Mackintosh, chief economist and senior vice president at Nasdaq. They discuss the unique economic cycle in the U.S., post-pandemic, focusing on the interplay between micro- and macroeconomics. Mackintosh explains his thoughts on the role of tariffs, the Federal Reserve's current policy, immigration's impact on the labor force, and the outlook for pro...2025-02-2150 minOn InvestingChina Enters the AI Chat (With Louis-Vincent Gave)In today's episode, Liz Ann Sonders speaks with Louis-Vincent Gave, CEO of Gavekal Research. Louis discusses the unique market dynamics of the past year, focusing on the concentration of U.S. equities, the divergence between growth and value stocks, and the implications of China's trade surplus. Liz Ann and Louis delve into the impact of DeepSeek on the tech landscape, the potential for market bubbles, and future trends in technology and infrastructure spending.Kathy Jones and Liz Ann also discuss the recent Consumer Price Index (CPI) report and its implications for inflation and the equity market. They...2025-02-1450 minOn InvestingNavigating Tariffs & Inflation (With Dr. Richard Clarida)In this episode, Kathy Jones interviews Dr. Richard Clarida, PIMCO's global economic advisor and former vice Chairman of the Board of Governors of the U.S. Federal Reserve System.Dr. Clarida is a managing director in PIMCO's New York office and teaches economics and international affairs at Columbia University. Prior to joining PIMCO in 2006, he was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy, serving as chief economic advisor to two U.S. Treasury secretaries. He and Kathy discuss the state of the economy, the way the Fed is structured, and some of the ways that central b...2025-02-0738 minOn InvestingBeyond Market Cap: Fundamental Indexing Explained (With Rob Arnott)In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss this week’s FOMC meeting and the market reactions. Then, Liz Ann speaks with Rob Arnott, founder and chairman of the board of Research Affiliates®. They discuss some of the advanced approaches of Research Affiliates, particularly focusing on the Research Affiliates Fundamental Index® (RAFI) and its implications for growth and value investing. They explore the differences between traditional indexing methods and RAFI, the challenges of forecasting market returns, and the potential for paradigm shifts in finance. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding market dynamics and the nuanc...2025-01-3141 minOn InvestingMarkets React to a New AdministrationIn this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the intersection of market analysis and political developments, particularly focusing on the implications of a second Trump term. They explore the performance of major tech stocks, the impact of regulatory changes on various sectors, and the current state of the bond market. The conversation also delves into the ongoing earnings season, highlighting the trends in corporate performance and expectations for the Federal Reserve's future actions amid economic uncertainty.Finally, Kathy and Liz Ann look ahead to the data and economic indicators that investors should be watching next...2025-01-2422 minOn InvestingClimate Shocks & the Muni Bond MarketIn this conversation, Kathy Jones and Cooper Howard discuss the impact of climate shocks, particularly wildfires in Los Angeles, on the municipal bond market. They explore the risks associated with California municipal bonds, the financial implications for issuers, and the broader trends in climate-related events. Cooper emphasizes the importance of diversification for investors to mitigate potential risks and highlights the increasing frequency of climate shocks over the years. The discussion also touches on the role of federal assistance in managing the aftermath of such events. You can read more from Cooper Howard about municipal bonds, including the po...2025-01-1721 minOn InvestingDoes the Resilient Economy Equal a Higher Potential Growth Rate?In the first episode of 2025, Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab's chief investment strategist, and Kathy Jones, Schwab's chief fixed income strategist, discuss the overall economic outlook for 2025 and take stock of where the markets are right now. The conversation focuses on fixed income and bond market dynamics, Fed policy, and the relative performance of equities. Liz Ann and Kathy reflect on the economy's resilience and growth potential, while also addressing the upcoming economic indicators and market sentiment. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding market concentration risks and the implications of bond yields on stock prices.On Investing...2025-01-1023 minOn Investing2025 Market Outlook: U.S. Stocks & Economy & Global MarketsAfter another year of the bull market, what's in store for stocks in 2025? In this year-end episode, Schwab experts look ahead to consider what investors might expect from the markets in the new year.First, Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab's chief investment strategist, speaks with senior investment strategist Kevin Gordon. Liz Ann and Kevin discuss their perspective on the direction of the U.S. economy and stock market. She and Kevin cover tariffs, immigration, and potential policy changes, among other topics. Uncertainty remains a major theme.Next, Kathy Jones, Schwab's chief fixed income strategist interviews Jeffrey K...2024-12-1333 minOn InvestingHow Do You Build a Bond Portfolio?In this conversation, Kathy Jones talks with Cooper Howard, who is an expert on the topic of municipal bonds. They delve into the intricacies of bond investing, discuss the importance of bonds, exactly how to build a bond portfolio, and the various types of bonds suitable for retirees and other investors. They explore the differences between individual bonds and bond funds, the significance of account types for bond investments, and the bond ladder strategy as a practical approach. The discussion also touches on navigating current opportunities in bond investing, particularly in relation to interest rates and market conditions.2024-12-0628 minOn InvestingUncertainty Around Future PolicyIn this week's episode, Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab's chief investment strategist, and Kathy Jones, Schwab's chief fixed income strategist, discuss the current economic landscape, focusing on policy changes in Washington, the implications of tariffs and immigration reform on inflation, and the Federal Reserve's potential moves at their next meeting. They explore the dynamics of the housing market, the uncertainty businesses face due to fluctuating policies, and the impact of global events on market reactions. The discussion concludes with reflections on gratitude and collaboration within their teams.On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more...2024-11-2216 minOn InvestingNavigating Post-Election Market DynamicsIn this week's episode, Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab's Chief Investment Strategist, and Kathy Jones, Schwab's Chief Fixed Income Strategist, discuss the immediate market reactions following the recent election, focusing on the equity and bond markets. They explore the implications of potential fiscal policies, the Federal Reserve's upcoming decisions, and the importance of cautious investment strategies in light of uncertainty. The discussion also highlights the significance of economic indicators and the potential for market volatility in the near future. On Investing is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/OnInvesting.2024-11-0819 minOn InvestingUnderstanding Recent Volatility in the Bond MarketIn this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss several of the latest economic indicators, focusing on inflation, employment, and the housing market. They analyze the current state of the S&P 500®, bond yields, and the implications of global interest rate cuts. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding market rotations and the impact of economic data on investment strategies.Next, Kathy speaks with Collin Martin, director and fixed income strategist at the Schwab Center for Financial Research. Kathy and Collin discuss the current state of the fixed income markets, focusing on the outlook for interest r...2024-10-2535 minOn InvestingWhat Does a Credit Analyst Do?In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the current state of the bond market and the bull market in equities. They explore the volatility in bond yields, the significance of credit spreads, and the importance of employment and inflation data.This week, Kathy speaks with Carol Spain, managing director and head of credit research for Schwab Asset Management. Kathy and Carol delve into the intricacies of credit analysis, exploring Carol's unique career path, the role of credit analysts, and the current conditions in the credit market. They discuss the dynamics between credit research and...2024-10-1838 minOn InvestingCurrent Pros & Cons in the Market (With Paul Hickey)How can the stock market be a hedge against inflation? What are some pros and cons of the current market environment?In this conversation, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the recent jobs report, which exceeded expectations, and its implications for the economy and Federal Reserve policy. They explore the strength of the labor market, the bond market's reaction, and the importance of consumer spending in driving economic growth. Then, Liz Ann is joined by Paul Hickey, cofounder of Bespoke Investment Group. They discuss various aspects of the stock market, focusing on the importance o...2024-10-1141 minOn InvestingWhat the Fed Rate Cut Means (With Claudia Sahm)With the Federal Reserve cutting rates by 50 basis points at its September meeting, what are the implications for the bond market and the economy? In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders analyze the market's reaction to the rate cut, the balance between panic and greed in investment strategies, and the upcoming economic indicators that could influence market movements. Their discussion highlights the importance of understanding labor market trends and consumer sentiment in the context of inflation and economic policy.This week, Kathy sits down with Claudia Sahm, a former economist for the Federal Reserve and...2024-09-2031 minOn InvestingPotential Rate Cuts and the Path to Sustainable Growth (With Joe Brusuelas)Kathy and Liz Ann discuss this week's expectations around the upcoming jobs report and its influence on the Fed. Their discussion highlights the importance of full employment and wage growth for the Fed. The conversation also mentions other important metrics like long-term unemployment, part-time versus full-time employment, and hours worked. The recent data on service-sector activity, initial unemployment claims, and continuing claims suggest a weakening job market. Then, Kathy Jones is joined by Joe Brusuelas, who is an economist with RSM. He has expertise in U.S. monetary policy and labor markets. They discuss the potential for r...2024-07-0534 minOn InvestingMidyear Outlook: Equities, International & WashingtonAll eyes were on the Fed in the first half of 2024, but with core PCE holding steady and no rate cuts, how did the other parts of the economy and the markets fare? In this midyear episode, Schwab experts look ahead to the second half of 2024 to consider what investors might expect from the U.S. stock market, the global markets, and policy and politics in Washington D.C.First, Liz Ann Sonders and Kevin Gordon discuss the current trends and bifurcations in the equity market. They highlight the significant spread between large-cap and small-cap performance, with...2024-06-1447 minOn InvestingThe Power of Compounding & the Definition of "Rich" (With Scott Galloway)In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the latest CPI data and the impact for investors. Then, Liz Ann interviews NYU Professor Scott Galloway about his latest book and discusses the importance of financial literacy and strategies for achieving economic security. Galloway shares personal anecdotes and insights on topics such as the power of compounding, the definition of "rich," and the role of upbringing on one's relationship with money. He emphasizes the need for discipline, the value of time, and the rewards of building wealth with a partner. The conversation highlights the role of money as...2024-05-1745 minOn InvestingThe Fed's Message: Patience and No Change in Interest Rate PolicyIn this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones analyze this week's FOMC meeting and its impact on the economy and financial markets. The Fed's message was one of patience, with no change in interest rate policy. While the Fed acknowledged some caution about inflation, Fed Chair Powell said he believes that the current interest rate is high enough to bring inflation down in the long run. The Fed also announced that they will begin tapering their quantitative tightening policy. The conversation also touches on the impact of bond yields on the equity market, the recent drop in commodity...2024-05-0322 minOn InvestingWhat You Need to Know About Asset Allocation (With Sébastien Page)In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones analyze the state of the markets and discuss the current expectations around the Fed's potential rate cuts. Sébastien Page, chief investment officer at T. Rowe Price, joins the podcast to discuss his work on asset allocation and the correlation between stocks and bonds. He emphasizes the importance of understanding asset allocation and the role of liquidity in driving the markets and the economy. Page also shares his views on the stock market and the need for financial literacy. Finally, Kathy and Liz Ann offer their outl...2024-04-2633 minOn InvestingWhat's New in Stock Sectors & Corporate Bonds?In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones analyze the state of the markets and discuss the current expectations around the Fed's potential rate cuts. Then, Liz Ann speaks with Kevin Gordon about sector trends and changes in the overall market. They discuss the notable shifts in sector performance, particularly in energy and technology. The energy sector has taken the leadership baton from the tech sector, which has been a significant change. The top heaviness of certain sectors, such as communication services and energy, is highlighted. The conversation also touches on Schwab Sector Views and the c...2024-04-1939 minOn InvestingWith Stubborn Inflation, What Should the Fed's Target Be? (With David Beckworth)In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones analyze the March 2024 CPI data and its impact on the bond markets and Fed policy. CPI came in higher than expected, with significant increases in housing, clothing, and transportation services, probably closing the door on a June rate cut, as the Fed will likely have to be patient and wait for the numbers to improve. Then, Kathy interviews David Beckworth. They discuss the concept of nominal GDP targeting as an alternative approach to monetary policy. He explains that instead of targeting the price level or inflation, nominal GDP t...2024-04-1240 minOn InvestingWhat's It Like to Be a Financial Journalist? (With Dion Rabouin)How do you find reliable information about the markets and the economy? It's one thing for individual investors to struggle with financial jargon and context, but what about professionals? In this episode, Kathy Jones interviews Wall Street Journal reporter Dion Rabouin. They discuss Dion's background and his path to becoming a journalist, his transition to different media formats, current topics in the economy and markets, and how he works to find reliable sources and seek out additional information and context. Dion shares his experiences and insights as a journalist and provides tips for investors on how to a...2024-04-0538 minOn InvestingUnderstanding Corporate Bond Analysis (With Winnie Cisar)In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss some of the latest questions they are hearing from investors.Corporate bonds have received extra attention lately due to their higher yields. Will that streak continue? Collin Martin joins Kathy Jones for a conversation with Winnie Cisar from CreditSights. They discuss the role of corporate bonds and how credit ratings work. They cover topics such as the role of credit analysts, factors supporting corporate bonds, concerns about low spreads in the market, attractive and worrisome sectors, the role of private credit, and recommended reading and listening materials...2024-02-2340 minOn InvestingWhat Matters in Corporate Real Estate (With Al Rabil)How did the latest inflation numbers affect the stock market and Treasury yields? In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss why the CPI report showed higher-than-expected numbers, and they cover the economic indicators impacting future Fed rate cuts.Liz Ann Sonders next interviews Kayne Anderson CEO Al Rabil about the state of the corporate real estate market. They discuss office occupancy rates and the demand for corporate debt, as well as the regional banks' exposure to corporate real estate credit. Al discusses the buy-versus-sell decision and the impact of potential interest rate cuts in...2024-02-1634 minOn InvestingWhat Matters in Residential Real Estate (With Dolly and Jenny Lenz)In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the latest signaling from the Fed and how companies have fared during earnings season.Then, Liz Ann is joined by real estate professionals Dolly Lenz and Jenny Lenz. They share insights into Dolly's start in the business and her journey to becoming a renowned real estate professional. They also discuss the changes in the residential real estate landscape over the years, including the impact of the pandemic on buyer preferences and the shift away from big cities. The conversation covers topics such as office occupancy, mortgage rates...2024-02-0943 minOn InvestingWhat Can the Sahm Rule Tell Us About the Economy?In this episode, Schwab's Chief Fixed Income Strategist Kathy Jones interviews former Fed economist Claudia Sahm. And Schwab's Chief Investment Strategist Liz Ann Sonders discusses the December jobs report with Kevin Gordon. Liz Ann and Kevin look at the differences between the numbers in the household survey and the establishment survey—and how this data will affect the fight against inflation, among other topics. You can see the charts they mention in this article: Mixed Signals: December's Jobs Report.Kathy and Claudia discuss the Sahm rule, which is an indicator of a recession, and its purpose in pr...2024-01-1255 minOn InvestingWhere's the Economy Headed: Soft Landing or Recession?In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss their outlooks for 2024 in light of recent events and share what investors should be watching for in the next few weeks. Liz Ann also interviews Keith McCullough, founder and CEO of Hedgeye Risk Management. Keith explains the evolution of hedge funds and how he views the changing investment landscape. He emphasizes the importance of transparency and accountability in investing and explains his unique approach to financial markets, which he calls "quantimental." McCullough also shares his insights on market cycles and the current economic outlook, including the possibility o...2023-12-2238 minOn InvestingThe Fed Holds Steady with a Dovish PivotThis week, the Federal Reserve left its benchmark interest rate unchanged in the 5.25% to 5.5% range but signaled 75 basis points in rate cuts coming in 2024. While co-host Liz Ann Sonders is out sick this week, Kathy gives her perspective and then brings in a guest to provide context and background on this unique economic cycle.Kathy Jones interviews economist Dr. Julia Coronado, president and founder of Macropolicy Perspectives. Dr. Coronado is a clinical associate professor of finance at the McCombs School of Business at the University of Texas. She has more than a decade of experience as a...2023-12-1527 minOn InvestingMarket Outlook: What's in Store for 2024?After a tumultuous year for the markets, what's in store for 2024? In this year-end episode, Schwab experts look ahead to consider what investors might expect from the markets in the new year.First, Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab's chief investment strategist, speaks with senior investment strategist Kevin Gordon. Liz Ann offers her perspective on the direction of the U.S. economy and stock market. She and Kevin discuss inflation, interest rates, company earnings, and the job market, among other topics.Next, Kathy Jones, Schwab's chief fixed income strategist interviews her colleagues Collin Martin and Cooper Howard. K...2023-12-081h 03On InvestingAn Equities Rally, a GDP Revision, and the Likelihood of 'De-Dollarization'After a market rally in November, what can we expect in December? In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders recap the week of Thanksgiving and discuss revisions to the Q3 GDP numbers. They also look toward the week ahead and the economic indicators they are watching. Kathy Jones interviews economist Jens Nordvig, founder of Exante Data and MarketReader. They discuss the trajectory for inflation, whether we can expect Fed rate cuts in 2024, the long-term investment in AI, and the state of the U.S. dollar, among other topics. On Investing is an original pod...2023-12-0140 minOn InvestingThis Week's CPI Data and the State of the EconomyIn this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders look back on the week's CPI data and look ahead to what indicators they are both watching next week.For her focus on equities and the economy, Liz Ann Sonders interviews Nancy Lazar, chief global economist at Piper Sandler, where she leads the economics research team. Before joining Piper Sandler, she co-founded Cornerstone Macro, Wall Street's premier macro boutique. Prior to Cornerstone, she was co-founder and vice chairman of ISI Group for more than 20 years. They discuss the likelihood of a recession in the coming months, the state o...2023-11-1737 minOn InvestingThe View from Washington D.C.In this episode of On Investing, hosts Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones welcome Mike Townsend to the show. Mike is Schwab's managing director of legislative and regulatory affairs in Washington D.C. He is also the host of Schwab's WashingtonWise podcast, which explores the intersection between policy, politics, the markets, and the economy. He shares his thoughts on the 2024 election cycle, the likelihood of a government shutdown, and the state of the federal budget deficit and government debt.Kathy and Liz Ann also give an update on what they are keeping an eye on next week in...2023-11-1027 minOn InvestingFrequently Asked Questions from InvestorsIn this episode of On Investing, hosts Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones recap the previous week and dig into a list of frequently asked questions from investors. They cover questions such as "What's the next move for the Fed?" and "Is a recession coming or not?" among others.Kathy and Liz Ann also give an update on what they are keeping an eye on next week in the markets.Liz Ann Sonders is Schwab's chief investment strategist. She's regularly quoted in financial publications including The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Barron's, and the...2023-11-0336 minOn InvestingOur Philosophy and What Matters in the MarketsIn the first episode of Schwab's new podcast, On Investing, hosts Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones introduce each other and explain what matters to them as they analyze the equity and bond markets. They also discuss the current market cycle and what the broader picture might tell us. Liz Ann Sonders is Schwab's chief investment strategist. She's regularly quoted in financial publications including The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Barron's,and the Financial Times.She also appears asa regular guest on CNBC, Bloomberg, CNN, Yahoo! Finance, and Fox Business News. Liz Ann has b...2023-10-2733 minOn InvestingIntroducing On InvestingEach week On Investing hosts Liz Ann Sonders, Schwab's chief investment strategist, and Kathy Jones, Schwab's chief fixed income strategist, analyze the financial headlines and bring context to all the conversations around equities, fixed income, the economy, and more.Join Kathy, Liz Ann, and their guests, as they share insights on what's moving the markets and why, as well as the indicators they are watching for signs of change.They'll also answer investor questions on everything from which sectors are on the move, to what the bond markets are telling us, to where to look...2023-10-1201 min