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Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenI’m a God Warrior!The FOX network once called her frenzy “the most compelling footage ever caught on tape.” We’re talking, of course, about Marguerite Perrin, most commonly known as “The God Warrior.” Tim and Ray revisit both of her classic appearances on the reality show Trading Spouses: Meet Your New Mommy, including her infamous “mother of all meltdowns” that has inspired memes and parodies ever since it first aired in 2005. The hosts discuss how Southern Christian paranoia and fear of the “dork-sided” got its first major mainstream showcase in possibly the most epic moment of reality television ever. Follow us: Tim: @t...2022-07-071h 19Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenI Wish We’d All Been ReadyWe’ve been promising it for weeks and here it finally is! In this very special episode, Tim and Ray discuss the Christian obsession with end-time prophesy. In addition to talking about their individual deconstructions around believing in the rapture, our hosts review six of the most well-known rapture films and analyze the use of the promise of an impending apocalypse as an evangelical scare tactic. Time stamps for the start of each film review below: 0:20:03 - A Thief in the Night (1972), dir. Donald W. Thompson 0:52:08 - A Distant Thunder (1978), dir. Donald W. Thompson ...2022-05-252h 08Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenHillsong: A Docuseries ReviewedG’day, mates! In this episode, our hosts review the new three-part Discovery+ documentary series, Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed. Founded in Sydney, Australia by Brian Houston and made famous through its never-ending worship music products, Hillsong is an international megachurch, media conglomerate, and Christian college mired in a plethora of abuse scandals. Throughout the episode, Tim struggles to retain former Hillsong pastor Carl Lentz’s name (or remember who Chris Pratt is) while also wondering how none of the leadership of the church saw his improprieties coming. Ray contemplates the culture of sexual abuse in evangelicalism and the notion of g...2022-04-111h 33Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenLooking for a MiracleIn this episode, Tim and Ray talk all about science⁠—or more so⁠, all about how science often gets thrown out the window in faith-based communities. What are the origins of this ideological clash? Galileo and his heliocentrism? Darwin and his common ancestors? Are faith healers and their promises of “miraculous healing” completely full of it? Why do evangelicals give more authority to their pastors when it comes to health outcomes and natural phenomena than they do to actual doctors and science experts? Is the Bible ableist? And why do so many Christians keep it a secret (or just flat out i...2022-03-091h 24Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenYou Don't Know What You're Missing: Why Andraé Crouch MattersHe expanded the possibilities of the gospel sound. He dared to defy the borders of race and integrate Christian music audiences. He shared his platform with many of the most brilliant vocalists and musicians of our lifetime. And then he brought gospel music to the rest of the world. In this episode, Tim and Ray discuss the life and music of gospel legend Andraé Crouch. As always, they dig in deep, covering his beginnings in COGIC (and his first group, the COGICs), his top-notch rolodex of collaborators (including Billy Preston, Bill Maxwell, Danniebelle Hall, Táta Vega, Phillip Bailey, St...2022-02-031h 44Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenThe Jesus Music (Extended Edition)Well, at least they didn’t hate the film as much as they thought they would. In this follow-up episode to their discussion on praise and worship music, Tim and Ray review the latest documentary on contemporary Christian music, The Jesus Music. In between giving their thoughts on what they (mostly dis)liked about the film, the hosts do their best to supplement the narrative with all of the Jesus movement and CCM history left out of the movie—from the dozens of essential Christian artists that went completely unmentioned (How do you tell this story without Randy Stonehill?) to t...2022-01-191h 25Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenGlory to Glory to Gimme a BreakFormulaic songwriting that reduces music composition to nursery rhyme chants! Self-deprecating, unimaginative lyrics in appeal to the most narcissistic version of God possible! Chord progressions of…well really just about 2 or 3 chords. But synth strings! Don’t forget the synth strings!! In this episode, Tim and Ray discuss the bane of their existence: praise and worship music. What is the difference between CCM, gospel, and praise & worship music, and how have these differences been rendered almost completely moot by the monopoly of the latter? How does the music reinforce Christian gatekeeping and the hierarchies that allow only the singers with...2021-12-071h 28Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenI'm Not Gay No MoreIt’s all things gay and Christian in this episode, with a specific look at the history of the ex-gay movement and reparative therapy. What do Tim and Ray think about Biblical infallibility and the “clobber verses”? What about the concept of deliverance? Is gay identity a choice or are we born this way? Is ex-gay identity a fallacy? Is the “decision” to change one’s sexual orientation really just the result of coercion? Tim and Ray review a pair of documentaries on the subject, including the new-ish Netflix film Pray Away, and take to task the narratives of former ex-ga...2021-11-021h 36Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenJuanita's Sheets“What are you bringing to the table?” In this tour de force, we discuss none other than Prophetess/Dr./Ambassador Juanita Bynum II—the controversial juggernaut whom The New York Times once called “the most prominent black female television evangelist in the country.” Was Juanita Bynum a chosen vessel? A megalomaniac? A misunderstood victim? We start with a quick overview that covers it all, from her breakout success under Bishop T.D. Jakes to selling out stadium conferences around the world to hosting Praise the Lord on TBN to signing with Matthew Knowles’ Music World. We then do an in-depth cri...2021-09-281h 54Outlaw\'s Evidence of the UnseenOutlaw's Evidence of the UnseenPilotWelcome to Outlaw's Evidence of the Unseen! In our first episode, we tell our origin stories and talk about what we hope to bring to the table with this new podcast. From growing up in Christian fundamentalism to coming out and rediscovering faith as pro-Black, pro-feminist queer musicians, we discuss our desires for building community with the show and what you as the listener can expect moving forward. Follow us: Tim: @timdillinger Ray: @raycurenton Subscribe to Tim's newsletter at https://godsmusicismylife.substack.com/ --- Send in a voice...2021-09-051h 09