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That Sh*t Doesn't Define You: Stories of HopeYou're Not Too Late: Your Purpose Doesn't ExpireIn this engaging conversation, Athena Captain and Rick Hadrava discuss the myths surrounding age and pursuing dreams. They emphasize that it's never too late to start anew, highlighting the importance of purpose, community, and continuous learning. Rick shares his personal journey of starting a podcast and the lessons learned along the way, encouraging listeners to take action on their dreams, embrace mistakes, and surround themselves with supportive individuals. The discussion also touches on the significance of investing in oneself and the unique advantages of starting later in life, ultimately reinforcing that purpose often grows with age.Episode...
2025-09-3051 min
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2023-07-1543 minThe Senior Journal8-20-22: Rick Hadrava – Scissortail Wealth ManagementWhat does your financial future look like and is your portfolio something you understand or just keep putting off looking at? Rick Hadrava (pictured left) with Scissortail Wealth Management is a 28-year expert in his field and he and his team will be happy to look at anything to do with your retirement, portfolio, and even legal matters having to do with your financial management!
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2022-08-2045 min
The Over 50 EntrepreneurMelissa Houston | The Secrets to Engaging in Public Policy to Keep Your Business Open and ThrivingOn this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur, we speak with attorney Melissa Houston, Founder and Principal of 929 Strategies. 929 Strategies is a government affairs consulting company committed to helping businesses pursue opportunities by overcoming challenges through providing public policy advice, so you can protect and grow your business. After serving decades in the public sector, Melissa wanted to continue to move Oklahoma in a positive direction by helping businesses. Listen as she walks us through: How you can attract better people for your open positions—tapping into a workforce that has been disrupt...
2021-11-1031 min
The Senior Journal10-9-21: Rick Hadrava – Creator of The Freedom Formula, host of The Freedom Series Calls, and The Over 50 Entrepreneur PodcastThis week on The Rise & Thrive OSJ Radio Hour, Saturday morning at 9:05 AM on KZLS The Eagle 1640AM. In-studio: Rick Hadrava, creator of The Freedom Formula, host of The Freedom Series Calls, and The Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast to name a few successes.
With more than 27 years of working with business owners and high net-worth individuals, Rick brings together his expertise, experience, and network of resources in his efforts to help those he serves to achieve a greater level of freedom for themselves, their families, and their businesses. As a family man and successful business owner himself, Rick has...
2021-10-0946 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurAmanda Holmes | How to Cut Through the Clutter and Get the Attention of Prospects TODAY!On this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur, we speak with Amanda Holmes, CEO of Chet Holmes International. Chet Holmes built a system of 12 core competencies to double your sales, wrote “The Ultimate Sales Machine” and worked with Fortune 500 companies throughout the world. When he passed away in 2012, his daughter Amanda took the reins of the company. We talk to her about adapting her father’s legacy for today, and what “The Ultimate Sales Machine” looks like in 2021, as well as: More businesses were started during the COVID pandemic than ever before—how can your business...
2021-09-2934 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurBob Loudermilk | Tips on Living Your Best Life After 50On this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with Bob Loudermilk, Founder of Second Half Events, Inc. The entrepreneurial drive grabbed a hold of Bob when he was just 13, leading him to start a neighborhood newspaper that he sold door to door. Bob says, “There was something in me that made me look for what businesses I could start.” Since that time, Bob’s career has had many twists and turns, but at the heart of it has always been his desire to serve his community and help others succeed which led...
2021-08-0430 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurSharina Perry | A Mission to Create Alternative Plant-Based SolutionsOur special guest on this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur podcast is Sharina Perry, CEO of Utopia Genetics and Utopia Plastix, two businesses that emerged from her passion for constant learning, exploring, asking questions, and observing the world around her. While Sharina spent over 20 years building cable and internet infrastructure, her tenacity to create solutions has put her on a new path to create both plant-based health and wellness products and alternatives to plastics.We chat about the hardship of losing employment in order to launch her own business, as well as:The pi...
2021-03-1038 min
The Ready Entrepreneur PodcastRE 114: Turning Your Interests Into a Business | Interview with Rick Hadrava, Managing Partner of Epic Business Advisory and Epic Wealth ManagementIn this extended interview episode, Case has a conversation with Rick Hadrava, Host of The Over 50 Entrepreneur podcast, Managing Partner of Epic Business Advisory and Epic Wealth Management about his entrepreneurial journey.If you start your working life by peeling popple, do you think you would go on from there to your own business managing wealth, and helping others achieve their dreams? The entrepreneurial journey has many starts, and all are foundational to success along the way.In this episode, Rick shares his insights from his path. Rick is a successful business owner, certified in exi...
2021-02-2548 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurCamilo Maldonado | Planning for Financial Freedom as an EntrepreneurOur special guest on this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast is Camilo Maldonado, Co-Founder & CEO of The Finance Twins, alongside his twin brother, Francisco, and the Founder of contactscompare.com. Camilo attended the University of Pennsylvania, studied finance at the Wharton School, holds an MBA from Harvard, has worked on Wall Street, and at a startup company, and is currently a contributor for Forbes. He strives to educate others on how they can achieve financial freedom.Camilo says, “This is my way of giving back. Now that I'm in a position where I have...
2021-02-1733 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurBrian Jackson | A Handmade Commitment to Quality and ExcellenceOur special guest on this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast is Brian Jackson, President at Woody Candy Company. The historic company was founded by Claude Woody when he returned from service in World War II in 1927. Brian applied his MBA in Finance, Accounting, and Operations Management, and his experience consulting, to taking over the operations of Woody Candy. Since taking over, he’s honored the legacy of the company that’s become a staple in the Oklahoma City Community.We chat about the transition of ownership, as well as:Food manufacturing regulationsPrevious introd...
2021-02-0329 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJohn Warrillow | Key Considerations When Thinking About Selling Your CompanyOur guest on this week’s Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast is CEO of the Value Builder System, John Warrillow. John is also the host of the Built to Sell Radio podcast as well as the author of Built to Sell: Creating a Business That Can Thrive Without You, The Automatic Customer, and The Art of Selling Your Business. John says, “Society places a tremendous premium on business ownership, so I think in many cases, we get a bit addicted to that sense of fulfillment that comes with running a company, even though in many cases we’ve stopped...
2021-01-0637 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurCarol Roth | Wealth Management to Help Your FamilyOur special guest on this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur is Carol Roth, creator of Future File. She's a business advisor, company director, investor, speaker, and best-selling author of The Entrepreneur Equation. A “recovering investment banker” and small business expert, she also hosts her own podcast, The Roth Effect.We chat about her self-made start, as well as: Her entrepreneurial spirit and early applications of business consultingConsidering who you serve as a small business Finding the right business support for continued expansionThe number one thing small businesses should be focusing on right nowROI > ROEAnd m
2020-12-3035 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurThe Davis Collective | The Stories that Need to be ToldOn this week’s Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, our special guests are the makers of the Davis Collective: Ja’marc Davis, the Marketing Strategist, Jeremy Davis, the Mobilization Strategist, and Joel Davis, the Media Strategist. They are a team of strategists who partner with organizations and individuals to achieve their goals. They are Brand Builders, Content Creators, and Culture Curators who specialize in marketing and media, turning vision into action and dreams into reality.They share the heart and soul of the company vision, as well as:Combining their powers to tell clients’ storiesTranslating the discipline of gre...
2020-12-2338 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurAdjust and Pivot to Create a Healthier Business in 2021Grab a pen and notebook for this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast. As we approach the end of this calendar year, we explore both the big and intricate questions about your business this quarter and this whole year. 2020 has been absolutely pivotal, and this a great time to pause and evaluate where you’ve been and where you are headed to make the necessary adjustments to continue aiming for greater freedom and success in your business. “We know that companies that focus on freedom from the business owner perspective, and that is freedom of time...
2020-12-1635 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurPeter Roth | Keys to Providing a Memorable Customer ExperienceOn this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with Peter Roth, Area Vice President at Hyatt for the Northeastern US. A global citizen, Peter has managed hotels in the United States, Germany, Spain, Ecuador, Venezuela, Uruguay, Mexico, Chile and Russia. He has spent the past twenty five years offering five star customer experiences, and is now based as General Manager at Park Hyatt in New York. “This current moment in time is giving us the opportunity to revisit everything we have been doing, to tweak and reinvent. We have come to re...
2020-12-0931 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurArthur Greeno | Creating a Memorable Customer Experience the Chick-fil-A WayOn this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with bestselling author, mentor, and motivational speaker, Arthur Greeno. Arthur has been part of the Chick-fil-A family for thirty years, and we dive into the spark that inspired his journey to be a Chick-fil-A owner/operator. Resilient and hardworking from the start, Arthur witnessed the caring company culture at the heart of Chick-fil-a and became determined to learn how to be involved. He shares how the company carefully evolved by continuously identifying new ways to serve customers and create lasting, memorable experiences that have mad...
2020-12-0245 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMatt Jones | Finding and Flourishing In Your Own Lane as an EntrepreneurOn this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with Matt Jones, Founder of Verge Law. In addition to being an entrepreneur, Matt is also a lawyer for other entrepreneurs; his clients include all types of business owners, from startups to emerging growth companies. He has a deep interest in craft beers and co-founded a craft beer bar in a renovated Victorian house where he can often be found hanging out and taking counsel.Matt says, “From the start, I knew the tribe that I wanted to serve, and that's entrepreneurs. So, my whol...
2020-11-2532 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurBill Davey | Learning to Overcome Objections in SalesOn this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with special guest, Bill Davey. I first connected with Bill when I was looking for a company to come install a security system in my new home, and I quickly realized that he was an entrepreneur, not just someone trying to sell me a system. Bill has been the owner of several different companies, having been in the alarm and security business for over 30 years, and has recently published his first book.“Things weren’t always easy during those first 10 years. It was stressful, but th...
2020-11-1826 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurChuck Rahill | What You Need to Know About Your Taxes Moving Into 2021On this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with Chuck Rahill of Wedel Rahill & Associates, CPAs. As businesspeople, we will always have questions from a tax perspective as we think about new opportunities or how we could be better structuring our businesses. While many of us may not be able to answer these questions ourselves, Chuck certainly can. He joins us on this episode to highlight what you should be conscious of regarding your taxes moving into 2021.“This has been the hardest professional year of my life. That being said, I say that...
2020-11-1135 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurKevin Hern | How One Congressman’s Business Experience Helps Him Make ChangeIn this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur, we chat with a guest full of grit and determination— Representative Kevin Hern, who is not just a congressman but also a successful entrepreneur, working in everything from real estate to hog farming. We’re so excited to have Kevin on the show! Kevin vividly remembers writing his first software program in early 1985, which is what started him on his entrepreneurial journey, and looks back fondly on the roots that got him going. We’ll chat with Kevin about what his self-employed life has taught him, as we...
2020-11-0426 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJason Hadrava | Overcoming Self-Doubt as an EntrepreneurOn this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we’re joined by a special guest who I’ve known all my life: my middle brother, Jason Hadrava. Jason is the co-owner of Titan Title & Closing, an Oklahoma-based, full-service escrow company. I know firsthand how hard he’s worked to get to where he is today, and when I think about grit, determination, perseverance, and focus, I think of him. “Do your homework, make sure that you know what you're getting into, then go for it; don't be afraid that it's going to be a grind. Ther...
2020-10-2825 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJames Roberts | Creating Your Own Opportunities as an EntrepreneurOn this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with James Roberts, CEO of Right Now Roofing. Often, when we think about entrepreneurs, we think about technology, social media, disruption, and other areas that tend to be more glorified in the business world. But, the truth is, there are many entrepreneurs who’ve created successful businesses in industries that are less than glamorous but are still driven and passionate about what they do, have a great time doing it, and make a ton of money. James is one such entrepreneur, and I was so excited to have...
2020-10-2134 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurLessons from 1 Year of PodcastingOne of the questions I get asked all the time is, “What is this podcasting thing?” People are always curious to know how and why I started this show, as well as how I benefit from continuing to do it every week. Having just come up on my first full year of podcasting, I thought it would be great to talk about exactly that.On this week’s Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, I sit down to discuss my takeaways from my experience as a podcaster so far and answer some common questions. To help me do that, I’m jo...
2020-10-1433 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurStan Chase | Building a Company of ValueOn this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with Stan Chase, Co-Founder and CEO of NvYA Technology. Prior to founding NvYA, Stan co-founded The Rock Island Group, which he sold in 2000, and Perimeter Technology Center, which he sold in 2012. He is also a graduate of Leadership Oklahoma City and Leadership Oklahoma, where he received the coveted Golden Bull Award as the distinguished graduate of that class.In addition to his career in technology, Stan is a retired Lieutenant Colonel of the US Military, where he served as an intelligence analyst for the US...
2020-10-0739 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMark Bravo | Get Comfortable With Being UncomfortableMark Bravo was at a crossroads in his life. He could continue with what he’d been doing… that wasn’t fulfilling but was “safe.” Or he could strike out on a new path that followed his passion for running even though he had no assurances he would succeed. Can you guess which way he went? Decades later he’s still loving what he does as an entrepreneur, author, speaker, avid runner and running coach to some of the country’s top athletes. Along the way, he learned life lesso...
2020-09-2329 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurCase Lane | Achieving Lifestyle Freedom Through EntrepreneurshipOn this week's episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with special guest, Case Lane. Case is an entrepreneur, traveler, and the Founder of Ready Entrepreneur, in addition to being a former diplomat, consultant, and corporate executive. Her business prepares aspiring entrepreneurs to understand how to take advantage of technology and global resources so they can achieve what she deems the “lifestyle freedom”.“When you're just looking out at the online world and thinking, I've got an idea, or even if you don't have an idea, you just know you want to do something, that's where...
2020-09-1633 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMichele Rigby Assad | Learning to Acknowledge and Push Past Fear as an EntrepreneurOn this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with very special guest, Michele Rigby Assad. Michele is a former undercover officer for the CIA who trained as a counterterrorism specialist and served her country for over 10 years in Iraq and other secret Middle Eastern locations. Upon retirement from active service, Michele and her husband Joseph, also a former agent, joined a group of Americans who wished to aid persecuted Christians. Their efforts resulted in the evacuation of a group from northern Iraq which went on to be featured by ABC’s 20/20 in Decem...
2020-09-0925 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJim Whitt | Uncovering Your True PotentialYou can make money and do work that is meaningful to you. That is Jim Whitt’s philosophy, and he helps entrepreneurs and others find fulfillment in their businesses. His purpose is to help people reach their full potential through his consulting, speaking, best-selling books, and other work he does through his company, Purpose Unlimited. He says if you don’t have a purpose in your work, your business… even your life… your only motivation is reward and punishment. That’s not sustainable and leads to unhappiness. Jim says havin...
2020-09-0231 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurRamon Ray | What Does Entrepreneurial Freedom Really Look Like?On this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with special guest Ramon Ray, author of The Celebrity CEO. Aside from being an author, Ramon is also a keynote speaker and entrepreneur who, over the course of his career, has created four different businesses, going on to sell two of those. Ramon brings energy and guidance to everything he does and is all about brand. Today, Ramon runs Smart Hustle Media, which produces events and content to inspire and educate business owners on how to start and grow their businesses.“Wanting to be perf...
2020-08-2632 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurAndrea Waltz | Changing the Way You Think About FailureYou have heard of the concept of learning from your failures. But, says Andrea Waltz, just as important as learning a practical lesson is changing your whole attitude toward failure. Andrea, Co-founder of the Courage Crafters speaking team and co-author of the book Go for No!, notes that failure is associated with negativity, feelings of rejection… and that emotional component of failure can have a tremendous – and often unseen – impact on your path to success. Even hearing something as simple as “No” during a sales conversation can be paralyzing. But, says Andrea, it sh...
2020-08-1927 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurDavid Jenyns | Achieving Freedom As An Entrepreneur — Why Systemizing Your Business Is The KeyOn this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with special guest David Jenyns. David is an entrepreneur who systemized himself out of his own business and is now on a mission to do the same for other business owners. His latest book, Systemology, shares not only his expertise and experience but also resources and stories designed around helping other business owners. “Business owners, they start off looking for freedom, but then they most often find that’s anything but what they actually get. They end up getting trapped into this business, and they ge...
2020-08-1236 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurBrandon Turner | Control Your Hours and IncomeTo take your small business to the next level, it can’t be all you, 24-7, says Brandon Turner. You can’t do everything – like you did when you were in startup mode. You have to automate processes, delegate tasks, and more – so that your business can grow, and you have the freedom to do what you enjoy. It’s time to get your time back, says Brandon, and he shows a methodical way to get things off your plate. The sooner you realize you are replaceable – and why that’s a good thing – th...
2020-08-0535 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurNathaniel Harding | Spotting the Potential for Explosive GrowthNathaniel Harding saw a gap in the venture capital world and has rushed to fill it. As he puts it: “There’s a lot of opportunity with startups happening and a lot of innovation in various sectors enabled by technology in different forms. But there’s not enough organized capital investing in it. So you’re really seeing a supply and demand mismatch.” Through his work at recently launched VC firm Cortado Ventures, he seeks to invest in the top tech startups in the region, in industries like energy, fintech, insurtech, aerospace, a...
2020-07-2929 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurElizabeth Saunders | Time Management Strategies for Busy EntrepreneursMany people think that to be successful as an entrepreneur, it is all about grinding away 24/7, working nights, weekends – time off? Work/life balance? – forget about it. But, says time management coach Elizabeth Saunders, that’s a recipe for overload and burnout… and will make you less successful in the long run. Where you invest your time is just as important as where you invest your money, notes Elizabeth. It impacts your productivity, relationships, success, and profitability, not to mention physical and mental health, and more. Elizabeth recommends s...
2020-07-2230 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurGeoffrey Ludt | Smarter Networking for Small BusinessesWhen you provide a service to small businesses, you have to get to know people. You have to become known in the community, says Geoffrey Ludt, who took a unique approach to building business relationships when he moved to Oklahoma City from Portland a few years back. LinkedIn was critical to this strategy, but not in the way you expect. We also talk about why he chose the payroll services niche and the “natural” strategic partnership that’s opened up a whole new target market, as well as… How he uses...
2020-07-1528 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurSean Kouplen | Lessons Learned In Banking, And How They Can Help YouOn this week’s episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we speak with a very special guest, Sean Kouplen. Sean is Oklahoma’s 10th Secretary of Commerce and Workforce Development, as well as the Chairman and CEO of Regent Bank. In his role as Secretary of Commerce and Workforce Development, he oversees 36 of the state agencies who lead economic development, community development, and workforce development efforts for the state of Oklahoma. Under his leadership, the state has attracted over 65 new businesses since 2019.In 2008, Sean led an investor group that purchased 110 year old Regent Bank out of Nowa...
2020-07-0828 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurEllyn Hefner | Financial Planning for Special Needs KidsEllyn Hefner, of MassMutual in Oklahoma City, works with families who have children with special needs, assisting them with financial planning to ensure they get the care they need, as well as finding all the available resources out there. A key part of that process is making sure your disabled child is taken care of after you’re gone. And in Ellyn’s experience, not dealing with that now can have severe consequences. Trusts, wills, guardianships, powers of attorney, and more are in Ellyn’s toolbox. But a huge part of the job i...
2020-07-0126 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMatthew McClintock | Dynamic Estate Planning for EntrepreneursMatthew McClintock is founding partner of Evergreen Legacy Planning, a Colorado-based law firm that helps businesspeople, high-net-worth families and individuals manage their finances efficiently, including minimizing tax liability. And he has a special interest – and expertise – in cryptocurrencies. Matthew started his own boutique law firm because he has a true entrepreneurial spirit, which is something he brings to the table when working with clients. One of his guiding principles is that business is about more than money. And he’s always got his eye on the future, making sure to stay ahead of the curve on beha...
2020-06-2432 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurRod Polston | How One Entrepreneur Changed His Business For The BetterOn this episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur, we have a very special guest joining us— Rod Polston. If you’ve watched TV at any point in the last few years, you’ve probably seen his commercials for his business, Polston Tax Resolutions and Accounting. Rod started his journey in the field by working for a tax lawyer over high school summer breaks and throughout college, and he quickly came to fall in love with tax. This unique opportunity gave Rod a competitive advantage when he finished law school and started practicing. Rod’s story is j...
2020-06-1731 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJordan Harbinger | The Importance Of Networking To Your SuccessOn this week’s episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast, we chat with Wall Street lawyer turned interview host, Jordan Harbinger. Jordan is a radio personality, voice actor, journalist, and podcaster, and his current podcast, The Jordan Harbinger Show, receives over 6 million downloads a month. He is also a husband and father who is dedicated to helping his listeners become better informed critical thinkers.“Okay, I need to actually start from the foundations of psychology, influence persuasion, networking, relationship maintenance. I need to break down what successful people in this area are doing, and have been doin...
2020-06-1048 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMark Funke | Building Relationships With CustomersFrom large national banks to smaller state and local banks… from teller to CEO… over his 42 years in the banking industry, Mark Funke has seen – and done – it all. He knows that banks can impact communities and spur entrepreneurship. And as a corporate leader, he learned how to rally teams to work together to achieve company goals. He says relationships between bankers and entrepreneurs are key to business success, with bankers acting as advocates and advisors. We talk about that in depth, as well as… The role of big...
2020-06-0326 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurBob Burg | Give People a Reason to BuyBest-selling coauthor of The Go-Giver series, speaker, entrepreneur, and mentor Bob Burg has a simple philosophy: shifting your focus from getting to “giving" (providing immense value to others) is both a more fulfilling and more profitable way of doing business. It might seem counter intuitive, but by following that rule of focusing how you can give value to others, your business will be more profitable. You do that by listening to your prospect… understanding what they need, want, and desire… and then matching the benefits of your product or service that hit those...
2020-05-2733 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurEric Weisgarber | How To Find New Opportunities And PivotIn this episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur, we sit down with very special guest Eric Weisgarber. Eric runs The AMG Team— analytics, marketing, and growth— and is passionate about optimizing business processes in an efficient manner. Eric started his entrepreneurial journey by selling newspapers in Ohio— which is where he learned, through his go-kart, about his love for efficiency and operations at a young age. And, he says, the rest is history. We’ll chat with Eric about his experiences as an entrepreneur thus far, including his first “apprenticeship” in advertising, as well as… The lo...
2020-05-2025 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJumping on opportunity when it presents itselfToday's I’m joined by Jonathan Stranger and Jeff Cole of Prairie Wolf Distillery We discuss:How Jonathan and Jeff pivoted the distillery to produce hand sanitizer.The challenge of going from 4000-5000 cases of liquor per year to 4000-5000 cases of hand sanitizer per week.The surprising results they're seeing now.How their team has come together to rise to the moment.How they're supporting first responders across Oklahoma.Tune in now...-Rick
2020-05-1521 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurGary Black | Overcoming Challenges As An EntrepreneurIn this episode of The Over 50 Entrepreneur, we chat with Gary Black of Black Optical. Gary started his journey in the optical industry working as a part-time salesperson at Sunglass Hut, which turned into a career over the following 11 years. Then, 13 years ago, Gary decided to take the plunge and start Black Optical! “And as long as my intentions are right, and I understand my customer's needs, then anything can kind of be overcome,” says Gary while reflecting on how he faced the challenges of starting a business. We’ll chat with Gary about wh...
2020-05-1331 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurPivoting and dealing with the new unknownsToday's podcast has two parts. In the first part, I’m joined by Sereta Wilson, owner of Annie's Ruff House and Yellow Dog Coffee, and in the second part I sit down with Bob Thompson, owner of Midway Deli in Norman. We discuss:When first signs of economic struggle hit Norman.How Sereta is pivoting Yellow Dog Coffee Company to meet shifting demand.Why being in close contact with your bank is critical right now.How to stay in touch with your customers in difficult times.How to grapple with the big unknowns in business right now...
2020-05-0834 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurAthena Captain | A Passion for ProspectingAthena Captain had to build a sales and marketing system from scratch, one that was based 100% on referrals. She’ll be the first to admit that it was no easy task. There were setbacks, serious missteps, and more. But it was well worth it. Turner and Son Homes went from three referrals per quarter to 26 to 30 per month. That’s in a very niche market that saw the emergence of 17 new competitors while she was developing her system, which she uses as Director of Sales and Marketing for Turner. These days she also helps clients set up...
2020-05-0624 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurDeemah Ramadan | The secret to making it to the other side of this crisisToday on the podcast I’m joined by Deemah Ramadan, CEO of DBG Construction. We discuss:How starting her business as a "recession baby" prepared Deemah for dealing with what's happening today.The secret to getting through to the other side of this...Why you should turn off the news.Gracefully "releasing" people from your life when they're dragging you down.How Deemah is dealing with the #1 challenge she (and all of us) is facing right now.Tune in now...-Rick
2020-05-0120 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurRich Karlgaard | Your Age Doesn’t Dictate Your Ability To Be SuccessfulIn today’s episode, we sit down with Rich Karlgaard, an American journalist, bestselling author, and award-winning entrepreneur and speaker. Rich was named publisher of Forbes magazine in 1998, and has written 3 amazing books: Life 2.0: How People Across America Are Transforming Their Lives By Finding The Where Of Their Happiness (2004)The Soft Edge: Where Great Companies Find Lasting Success (2014)Late Bloomers: The Power of Patience In A World Obsessed With Early Achievement (2019)You’re in for an absolutely fantastic interview as we chat with Rich about his inspiration for his books, early achievement, as well as…The late bl...
2020-04-2938 min
Don't Retire, Refire PodcastThe Over 50 Entrepreneur - Rick HadravaThis episode explores why people have a desire to become an entrepreneur later in life and what some of the steps might be to get started on exploring that path. Rick's story is surprisingly similar to mine, in that he comes out of college (university), didn't really know what he wanted to do and ended up in Wealth Management, and then some 26-year latter owns a wealth management business, and a business advisory business. However, that latter being Epic Business Advisory is far more developed in his case. What's interesting is the motivation to start thi...
2020-04-2431 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurRuss Teubner and Jennie LoweToday on the podcast I’m joined by Russ Teubner and Jennie Lowe. Russ is the owner of Host Bridge Technology and Jennie is Russ' daughter--owner of Flow, a marketing consulting company based in California. We discuss:Why some businesses won't feel the impact of the current crisis for months.The challenge of decision-making while we're in the current fog.How to be nimble right now, to follow the new opportunities.Ways to test new offers right now.How to stay sane and focused in the midst of chaos.Tune in now...-Rick
2020-04-2438 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJohn Jantsch | Aspiring Marketer? Here’s What You Need To KnowIn today’s episode, we sit down with John Jantsch-- founder of Duct Tape Marketing, and author of a book by the same name. John has spent almost 3 decades as a business owner where his observation and documentation of the entrepreneurial lifestyle have led to success.“So I just at some point said, I have to create this process where I can walk in and kind of one sales call, say, here's what I'm going to do. Here's what you're going to do, here are the results we hope to get and here's what it costs,’ says J...
2020-04-2222 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurKeeping your business viable during the lockdownToday on the podcast I’m joined by Christin Mugg, an estate-planning attorney, and principal at Mugg-Winston Law. We discussThe practicalities of trying to keep your business viable during the lockdown.The critical need for personal estate planning (and having all the right documents in case you get seriously ill).The importance of setting up your business continuity documents so your business carries on, even if you or a partner becomes ill.The strange balance between optimistically looking towards the boom that will come after this crisis and the fear of facing the dramatic loss of...
2020-04-1838 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurChad Watts and Branden Baxley | Growing Business? Having Systems Will Make It EasierIn today’s episode, we sit down with Chad Watts and Branden Baxley, founders of Scars and Stripes Coffee, who aim to provide meaningful employment to veterans across the United States.“I didn’t want to hurt a veteran, I wanted to help a veteran,” said Chad Watts as he was brainstorming his business. In order to do so, Chad and Branden decided to focus on rekindling the comradery veterans were once accustomed to in the service...with extraordinary results. We chat with Chad and Branden about their mission, their business model, their biggest h...
2020-04-1537 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurEntrepreneur’s answer to crisisToday on the podcast I’m joined by Cory Miller. Cory’s a seasoned and successful entrepreneur. We discuss our current thinking on the world crisis we’re living through, plus...Why you need to find a group of entrepreneurs to talk with right now.Why entrepreneurs are the most equipped people to handle the chaos of the current situation.How you and I, as entrepreneurs, will lead society out of this challenge.Tune in now...Cory’s ideas will help you process what’s happening today and begin to chart your bigger future starting tomorrow.-Rick
2020-04-1018 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJim Holman | A New Career in RetirementJim Holman was in the automotive industry for 50 years as a car salesman, dealership manager, car dealer, and more. He loved his work. He was instrumental in creating the famous Mary Kay cosmetics pink Cadillac program. One dealership he was involved in actually went public and had to answer to Wall Street. It’s been a rollercoaster. So he was ready for retirement. Of course, that doesn’t mean he’s not working. In fact, he’s developing a new business model to take advantage of an ongoing industry trend promoted by a particu...
2020-04-0834 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurHR and Sales Advice During Times of CrisisThis is a special dual episode of the Over 50 Entrepreneur Podcast.I sat down with Matt Tipton of WhyHR to discuss HR considerations and the help and resources available to you during this crisis.Then, I had a conversation with Eric Weisgarber of The AMG Team to discuss what you should be doing in terms of sales and marketing to keep the revenue machine going right now.This is the first of a series of bonus episodes we'll be publishing over the next several weeks.Listen now...
2020-04-0338 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurDeedra Determan | Maximizing Your Marketing ROIDeedra Determan shifted her full-service marketing agency – D2 Branding – to focus on digital marketing… and she hasn’t looked back. She says digital offers clear benefits for companies of every size, in every industry… even businesses that say that they’re not “set up” for digital. The truth is, says Deedra, that your audience is online – constantly and in many different sites, apps, and services. She works with her clients to find out where their prospects and customers hang out online and then creates a customized marketing...
2020-04-0138 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurChuck Rahill, CPA - Making Financial Decisions, SBA Loans, Tax CreditsChuck Rahill, CPA comes on the podcast to share critical information for business owners trying to make decisions in this difficult time. He shares info on tax credits, SBA loans, and how to make the important financial decisions you're facing.
2020-03-2819 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJim Watson | When Things Fall Apart – Find OpportunitiesIn his 20 years as owner of Stillwater Building Center, Jim Watson has developed a unique philosophy. He says that looking back, most of the positive changes he’s made to the business were actually the result of poor decisions or tough times. He explains how he factors that “no regrets” thinking into future plans for the business, and how it’s guided decision-making over the years, especially during tough times. He also talks about how the company survived a four-month stretch with almost no customers early on, the challenges of expanding a business...
2020-03-2539 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurWhat to Focus on During UncertaintyWhat a difference a week makes…The world has changed dramatically in a very short time. Like you, I’m working to understand it, adapt, and find the way forward.At the end of the day, that’s all there really is--a way forward.Today’s episode of the podcast is a little bit different. I’m joined by my friend Steve Gordon, host of The Unstoppable CEO™ podcast to discuss what we’re doing right now to keep moving forward, and what we’re advising our clients to do.In chal...
2020-03-2026 min
The Authority Builder PodcastWhat to Focus on During Uncertain TimesWhat a difference a week makes…The world has changed dramatically in a very short time. Like you, I’m working to understand it, adapt, and find the way forward.At the end of the day, that’s all there really is--a way forward.Today’s episode of the podcast is a little bit different. I’m joined by my friend and client Rick Hadrava, host of The Over 50 Entrepreneur podcast to discuss what we’re doing right now to keep moving forward, and what we’re advising our clients to do.
2020-03-1926 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMary Beth Babcock | Is Follow Through The Secret To Reaching Your Goals?In today’s show, we sit down with the serial entrepreneur herself— Mary Beth Babcock. Our guest is a great example of the entrepreneurial spirit and of people making their own path in life through the things that interest and excite them.Mary Beth started her journey in entrepreneurship by coming up against obstacles, reflecting, and pivoting. Then, she moved along to a 21-foot cowboy on Route 66?…?We talk about mistakes you can make when starting off and how to overcome hardships, as well as…Not thinking about what other people thinkNot caring a...
2020-03-1831 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurDeemah Ramadan | The Entrepreneur’s HighDeemah Ramadan lost her job in 2003 – by email. She started a business that very day. Today she runs DBG Construction, a regional industry leader, building major projects for national companies. One of Deemah’s guiding principles is to not do business like other construction companies, at least those that give the industry a bad name. Their processes are geared towards enhancing the customer experience. We talk about how her start-up business managed to compete with much larger competitors in the early days and what she does to land those high-profile clients, as wel...
2020-03-1133 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJared Toay | The Probiotic EntrepreneurIt takes hard work to be an entrepreneur. But what toll is taken when you sacrifice relationships, family, and your personal life and health for your business? When faced with that situation, Jared Toay made big changes in his new business and how he approached life… even what he ate. The result was a successful new venture and a new, more fulfilling lifestyle. He talks about that journey, how to spot opportunity in your own life, and tips entrepreneurs in any situation can use to be successful without sacrifice. How...
2020-03-0441 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMatt Tipton | Expert HR SecretsMany businesspeople see their HR department as a necessary evil of a growing company. That’s all wrong, says Matt Tipton, an HR consultant who’s recently helped change my mind on the subject. Human resources done right, says Matt, can actually be a vital asset to keeping your employees productive and your business profitable. He talks about the true goal of HR, how to instill a sense of “mission” in your team, as well as what it takes to grow a professional services business in this day and age. Tune in to find o...
2020-02-2635 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJerry Reed | Say Goodbye To Self-Doubt With These TipsA maintenance electrician was presented with an incredible sales opportunity— and lost it because the company he worked for thought his facial birthmark would offend clients. Then, he resigned and started his own business partnership.Today, we chat with Jerry Reed— the owner and operator of RECO Enterprises since 1983. Jerry is also a real estate developer and investor with over 100 new buildings in Oklahoma and Arkansas. Jerry is backed by strong credentials and maintains a history of on-time, on-budget projects completed to the highest standard of quality.We’ll chat with Jerry about his bi...
2020-02-1928 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurRonnie Ketch | The Power of PerfectionA tremendous tragedy– and changing consumer tastes– forced them to re-focus their business strategy multiple times. But Ronnie Ketch, who has taken over the family business, says he wouldn’t trade it because it made their company stronger than ever… even if there were some stumbling blocks along the way. Today, Ketch Design Centre in Oklahoma City is the go-to place for commercial and residential window treatments, upholstery, fine fabrics, and even wallpaper. They provide custom interior design work for a variety of clients, and how they’ve grown is a great lesson for any industry.
2020-02-1229 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurDaniel Lemin | How to Harness Word of Mouth MarketingIs your business doing something for its clients worth talking about? Referrals – and word-of-mouth marketing – can be one of the most powerful levers for your business’s growth, says digital marketing consultant and author Daniel Lemin. But too many businesses don’t pay enough attention to this channel, especially as people trust “traditional” marketing and advertising less and less. Daniel shares his recommendations for harnessing word of mouth – online and offline – in a way that can radically transform how your business reaches customers and compel rapid growth as a result.
2020-02-0538 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurTy McBride and Morgan Reinart | Spinning Off the Family BusinessIt happens in many professions… quality, time-tested craftsmanship slips away as knowledge isn’t passed down from one generation to the next. Ty McBride and Morgan Reinart love the craftsmanship in old houses, specifically the wood windows. So they created a very specialized business that either restores– or as they call it, “rescues” – old wood windows or reproduces them. They’ve come a long way since their startup days, learning secrets about effective hiring, monitoring their financials, and expanding in scope and geographic reach. Tune in to get all the details about their uniqu...
2020-01-2942 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurBonus: Daily Habits That Inspire SuccessThe year 2020 is in full swing. Where are you at with the goals you’ve set for your business? Not just for the near future… I challenge you to look at your long-term vision and determine what must you do on a daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly basis to get closer to it. Only with a real plan can you truly experience sustainable and significant business growth. Another element of success: focusing on what you want… not what other people expect. Tune in for more...
2020-01-2408 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMatt Pryor | An Inside Look at InsuranceThe key to long-term success in business is to do the best you can for your clients. That’s Matt Pryor’s attitude, and it’s served him well during his long career as an agent for State Farm with his own agency. It’s a business he kind of fell into… after finding the industry appealing. A great example of how you never know where the next opportunity will come your way. Matt talks about his startup journey – there are plenty of lessons for entrepreneurs in any industry. Plus, he reveals how he...
2020-01-2231 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurTony Horton | Boosting Mental and Physical FitnessTony Horton was a somewhat down-and-out personal trainer when a fateful meeting changed his life forever… resulting in a multi-million dollar fitness empire. One of the things he credits for his rapid rise is a focus on productivity, personal development, and moving past destructive behaviors (even those that didn’t appear that harmful on the surface). Tony, creator of P90X, among other best-selling fitness programs, shares some of the strategies he used, both on a personal level as well as in his business dealings, to get where he is today. He also...
2020-01-1554 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJon and Burke Beck | Surprising Retail Business SecretsLike many entrepreneurs, Burke and Jon Beck decided to go into business for themselves because they felt stifled by corporate culture and wanted to blaze their own path. This married couple were lucky enough to be able to match their shared major passion in life with profits too when they opened what has become one of the country’s top-rating running specialty stores, Red Coyote Running and Fitness. Their startup period was full of long hours of learning the ropes. But now they’ve been able to step back a bit from t...
2020-01-0839 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurSereta Wilson | Zero Dollars for Marketing Pays OffMany people suffer in unfulfilling corporate jobs, yearning to break free. Some of them actually do it. That’s Sereta Wilson, who spent 16 years in the telecom industry before starting her own business. Annie’s Ruff House has been voted Norman, Oklahoma’s best pet boarding facility for many years running. And they also have a doggy day care and an indoor dog park. She chose this niche because it was an unmet need in the market. That was the first thing she did right. She also kept start...
2020-01-0242 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMike Michalowicz | Financial Realities for Small BusinessesIt’s a tough reality to face: half of small businesses in this country don’t exist after five years. If you’re struggling right now, you might be wondering if you’re destined to be part of that statistic. Mike Michalowicz says it doesn’t have to be that way. Not when you focus on fixing the most dangerous potential trap in your business. It’s something that could see you making a ton of money… but not taking home much – if any – of it at the end of the day. If you’ve discovere...
2019-12-2641 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMike Moran | Solutions for Stalled Business GrowthProfessional service providers are often very good at what they do… but they can be bad businesspeople. Administering the day-to-day business, not to mention creating strategic plans and executing them, is something they’re unprepared for… and they don’t have the time. That’s where Mike Moran comes in. Mike works with dentists and oral surgeons. But the lessons he shares will apply to any professional services-based business, especially those seeking to grow or expand into multiple locations. He uses systems and proven processes that help owners see where they need improvem...
2019-12-1841 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurStan Clark | Bar Turned Brand Famous WorldwideIf you’ve been to Stillwater, Oklahoma, you’ve probably dined or had a few beers at Eskimo Joe’s – or if you haven’t, you should the next time you’re in town. Not only is the food, atmosphere, and staff top notch, but this world-famous institution can teach you a lot about success in business in terms of management, customer service, branding, the startup phase, and more. Because it’s much, much more than just an eatery these days. CEO Stan Clark, who co-founded Eskimo Joe’s more than 44 years ago, says his...
2019-12-1147 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurMark Gunkel | Better Cash Flow ManagementAs a professional service provider, you might be great at what you do, but unless you have some entrepreneurial drive… your technical skills won’t be enough to build a successful company. Mark Gunkel says you need business building, management, and operations strategies… a passion for being “in charge.” And these are skills and you can pick up when you’re still an employee. Mark shares his strategies for managing his team, staying productive, and more.Tune in to find out... The regular escapes he uses...
2019-12-0431 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurJohn Warrillow | Increasing Business ValueAs an entrepreneur, you wanted the freedom that comes with having your own business and being the boss. But at some point, you’re ready to retire… or perhaps move on to other opportunities. You might pass it on to your kids or a trusted protégé… or you could sell it for a nice payday. But selling the business isn’t straightforward. And you should be preparing now to make sure you have a sell-able enterprise for years down the road. Author, speaker, and consultant John Warrillow has created a system that has helped thousands o...
2019-11-2751 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurToby Brown | Process-Driven Real Estate InvestingToby Brown has a systematic approach for investing in real estate and understands the numbers he needs to see to make sure a deal is worth it. Founder of The Brown Group – a one-stop shop for all things residential and commercial real estate – Toby says a focus on the realities of a potential investment allow him to remove whim and emotion from his decisions. It wasn’t always like this. In his early days as an investor he wasn’t as disciplined… and it got him into trouble at times. But, he says, it w...
2019-11-2031 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurLauran Thompson | The 5-Hour WorkweekLauran Thompson started a business offering a flexible workspace for attorneys and other legal professionals. Dockit LLC is a space for getting work done, but also for networking and collaboration. It’s her take on the recent uprising of co-working spaces. Dockit is at full capacity now – and Lauran only works about five hours a week on this venture. But it was tough growing the business early on as she struggled with attracting potential “tenants.” She changed her target market… and that’s when things took off. We talk about wh...
2019-11-1332 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurBruce Sanchez | Turning a Hobby Into a BusinessFor the past several years, craft beer has boomed, with small breweries sprouting up all over the country. In fact, these days craft beers make up 24% of the 114.2 billion beer market in the U.S. – which is huge. Bruce Sanchez is the owner and brewmaster of Twisted Spike Brewing Company, which has the largest taproom in Oklahoma City. Like many in the industry, Bruce started as a home brewer – award-winning, in fact. But when he got into business, he discovered there was a lot more to it than making a tasty brew. You...
2019-11-0642 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurBill Young | Turning Creativity Into a PaycheckIt’s no revelation that technological change is a constant, and the pace of this change is ever-increasing. Bill Young should know. As Head of Strategic Partnerships and Sponsorships at Twitch, he’s at the forefront of video gaming, live streaming, and eSports. This platform facilitates viewers from around the world watching other people play video games, cooking, or doing any number of other activities. If that doesn’t make sense to you, you’re probably not among the one million people watching three million different channels running right now. (It’s a huge audience for busines...
2019-10-3044 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurSimone Fulmer | The Client Onboarding PipelineSimone Fulmer treats her law practice more like a business than a traditional “old school” firm. It’s enabled her to empower her team members – and she really considers them part of the team – as well as transform the client experience for the better. It also allowed her to appeal to the millennial work ethic and attract valuable and effective employees of that generation who need a flexible schedule. Millennials aren’t lazy, says Simone, they just have different values and want something different from work and life. By appealing to that sentiment...
2019-10-2340 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurRuss Teubner | The Serial EntrepreneurRuss Teubner, CEO of HostBridge Technology, was in the world of computing and the Internet in its earliest days, not only as a user but also as a tech entrepreneur. We talk about some of the applications he spearheaded in those days, how he’s built entire companies based on his innovations, and why his business philosophy has remained steadfast up until today. Russ worked tirelessly to build his businesses,. but not at the expense of his family. He shares how he maintained that work-life balance and became a fixture of his s...
2019-10-161h 08The Over 50 EntrepreneurMatt Theriault | The Only Way to Level Up Your BusinessMatt Theriault’s fundamental business philosophy is to create multiple streams of passive income. You might think that sort of thing is reserved for the ultra-rich. But Matt has found ways that the average person can harness these same concepts to build life-changing wealth. That’s what he did through real estate – not as an agent, by the way – as well as multiple businesses that make money while he sleeps. You can’t go through that process alone. Matt reveals the people you need to hire – and those mentors you should be learning fro...
2019-10-0735 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurTalcott Franklin | Lessons Not Learned During the Financial CrisisIt’s the entrepreneurial mindset. You see a problem, you solve it. You break new ground and are never satisfied with the status quo. That’s the spirit that allowed Talcott Franklin to spearhead mortgage- backed securities litigation during the financial crisis… and has him blazing new trails with his law firm into new areas. His guiding principle is to use the law to create a better world with less injustice for vulnerable members of our society. And you won’t have to sacrifice income or quality of life to do it....
2019-10-0736 minThe Over 50 EntrepreneurRick Hadrava | Transitioning Out of Your BusinessOver the 25 years he’s spent building his own business and advising others, Rick Hadrava has seen too many entrepreneurs who are working too hard on the day-to-day. Even worse, when they’re ready to exit… they don’t really have a sale-able business.In the Over 50 Entrepreneur podcast, Rick shares how to build a business in a way that will allow you to sell it at a profit. Not only that – you’ll have fun along the way listening to the stories of fellow business owners who are on that path, as well as the struggles they are fac...
2019-10-0725 min
The Authority Builder Podcast8: Rick Hadrava | Building Your Business To SellI have yet to meet a business owner who's not dreamed--with a twinkle in the eye--about the prospect of cashing out and collecting a BIG paycheck. But when you really look at most businesses, the firms just aren't built to sell. Whether you're seriously looking for an exit, or you're decades away, today is the day to design the business in a way that will be attractive to a buyer. There are two important reasons to do this... First, it will force you to build something that can run without you--freeing...
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