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The KilnEp 08 - Clutch Your Pearls Elsewhere: Navigating Professional Conversations with NuanceIf you’ve been listening, you might have picked up on the fact that we have issues with the state of the professional culture among therapists.Today, we’re going to get into it explicitly.Because one of our overarching goals at The Kiln is to contribute to creating a healthier professional culture for everyone in our field, from students to supervisors. Pushing back against the prevailing culture isn’t easy, and none of us are doing this work perfectly.But if we can name w...2025-04-0953 minThe KilnEp 07 - For Clients: MBNET ExplainedA lot of the therapists we’ve trained have asked for resources for their clients, to help them get a better grasp of our modality, Mentalization-Based Narrative Exposure Therapy for Complex Interpersonal Trauma (MBNET).So today, we’re going to do our best to translate that into more accessible language so that clients can get a behind-the-scenes view of the rationale behind the modality and what it looks like in practice.Listen to the full episode to hear:What makes exposure-based trauma processing different from other methodsHow exposure sympto...2025-03-121h 05The KilnEp 06 - Hearing from MBNET Therapists with Phoenix McCulloch, LCSW and Rhiannon Theurer, LMFTToday, we’re continuing our discussion of our trauma processing modality, Mentalization-Baset Narrative Exposure Therapy for Complex Interpersonal Trauma (MBNET), with two of our colleagues who have trained with us in this method and are implementing it in their practices.We’re going to talk about our aha moments with aspects of the modality, how it’s changed their practice, challenges for them and their clients in working with MBNET, and more. If you’re thinking about training with us at the Kiln and how learning this modality might enhance your work with your clients...2025-02-261h 04The KilnEp 05 - Stop Skipping the Hard Stuff: MBNET and the Magic of Deep Trauma WorkSo if we at The Kiln believe in engaging directly with clients’ traumatic memories in order to help them process, how do we go about that intentionally and effectively?Today, we are talking about MBNET–Mentalization-Based Narrative Exposure Therapy for Complex Interpersonal Trauma–the trauma processing modality that we developed and that we teach at The Kiln and use with our own clients.MBNET is a structured treatment for people with problems related to having experienced complex interpersonal trauma. Its application isn’t limited specifically to complex PTSD but can be e...2025-02-191h 01The KilnEp 04 - Do It Afraid: Debunking Trauma Treatment MythsTrauma has been having a moment. People are talking about trauma everywhere, from social media to magazine covers, but the prevalence of trauma in our society isn’t shrinking anytime soon. Trauma happens in our families, our relationships, our workplaces, our culture, and our society.However, there is a prevailing school of thought that therapists should avoid exposing their clients to their traumatic memories and that doing so may be actively harmful.To which we call BS.We believe, fro...2025-02-1246 minThe KilnEp 03 - The Esoteric Art of Being a Hot Mess and a Great TherapistThe person of the therapist is foundational to the work we do and the relationships we build with our clients. But all too often, the discourse stops at “You have to do your own work.”We need to talk about what that means and how our awareness of and engagement with our own deeper layers influences and can enhance the work we do with clients. Today, we’re talking about how the person of the therapist impacts us, from deciding to become a therapist in the first place to how we...2025-02-0556 min
A Therapist Can't Say ThatIntroducing The Kiln Podcast!Dr. Kae Hixson and I started a new podcast! I wanted to give you a peek into what we’re up to.Welcome to The Kiln, where postgraduate education meets brave, bold, and imperfect therapy.We’re here to shake up professional culture—to make it braver and to help therapists rediscover their excitement for this work.At The Kiln, it’s okay to be imperfect. We’re building a learning community where practicing trauma therapy with courage is just as important as doing it with competence.On this podcast, we’ll share wha...2025-01-2904 minThe KilnEp 02 - Breaking Silos and Reimagining Therapy TrainingIt’s impossible for any counseling graduate program to teach all the things. It’s a complex undertaking at best. But it’s been increasingly impacted by our field’s investment in differentiating professional identities. Are you a marriage and family therapist? A licensed clinical social worker? A psychologist? Your education will reflect that identity.These professional paradigm turf wars cause troubling gaps in therapist education and they impact our clinical practice when we don’t communicate amongst each other.We want to go deeper at T...2025-01-2950 minThe KilnEp 01 - The Kiln: How We Ditched the BS and Started a SchoolWhy would we get involved in postgraduate education for therapists?Most recent masters program grads say they feel underprepared and often isolated as they face the challenges of licensure and beginning to take on clients. We believe that early-career therapists need mentorship, community, and a space where they, their peers, and their more experienced colleagues can all be honest about the realities of doing this work. If therapists are going to have the courage to help their clients put it all on the table, they need spaces where they g...2025-01-2947 minThe KilnWelcome to The KilnWelcome to The Kiln, where we offer postgraduate education that helps you become the therapist you’ve always known you could be. At The Kiln, we’re here to change our professional culture. To make it braver.We want to help therapists get excited about this work again. And to make a place where it’s okay for therapists to be imperfect. And we want to create a learning community where we’re committed to practicing trauma therapy not just with competence but with courage.On this podcast, we’ll share what it is...2025-01-1703 minA Therapist Can't Say ThatMBNET: Confronting Interpersonal Trauma with CourageOver the course of three seasons, we have talked plenty about trauma. And yet, somehow, I have never explicitly described or discussed the modality I use with clients, Mentalization-Based Narrative Exposure Therapy (MBNET).MBNET is a methodology that Dr. Kae Hixson and I synthesized from two different approaches that we were independently trained in, and it’s what we teach at The Kiln.On today’s bonus episode, Dr. Hixson joins me to get into how we arrived at this blended model for treating patients struggling with complex interpersonal trau...2024-12-0450 min