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Industry RelationsBack to booksIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the broader cultural trend of returning to physical, human-centered experiences amid rapid advances in technology and AI. They explore topics ranging from Compass’s decision to print physical listing books to the rise of tabletop gaming, and examine whether real estate’s resistance to full automation is part of a wider pushback against digital efficiency. Key Takeaways Printed Listing Books – Compass’s return to printed materials prompts a discussion about whether real estate is experiencing a retro shift. AI in Real Es...2025-05-0751 minIndustry RelationsI don't think that word means what you think it means...In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the evolving definition of an “open market” in real estate. They discuss how consumer expectations, technology shifts, and the dominance of platforms like Zillow are reshaping what it means for a listing to be considered publicly available. The conversation also covers the historical role of the MLS, comparisons to other industries, and whether the industry should rethink its terminology to focus on “fair marketplaces” instead of “open marketplaces.” Key Takeaways Definition of Open Market – Rob and Greg discuss the historical and modern interpretations of what constit...2025-05-011h 00Industry RelationsYou down with CCP?In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg examine how changes to MLS rules, especially around delayed marketing and the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP), are impacting portals, broker strategies, vendors, and the broader real estate ecosystem. They also explore the implications of the Rocket-Redfin merger, challenges for MLS public-facing websites, and what the new data policy landscape means for technology providers. Key Takeaways • Portal Impact of CCP Changes – Rob and Greg analyze how platforms like Zillow, Redfin, Realtor.com, and Homes.com are adapting to rule changes. • Delayed Marketing and Public...2025-04-2346 minIndustry RelationsWho's Your Daddy?In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg react to Zillow’s announcement that listings violating the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) will no longer be allowed on its platform. They discuss how this move could impact private exclusives, delayed marketing strategies, and the role of major brokerages like Compass and eXp. They also explore how this policy could affect MLS governance and whether Zillow’s position signals a shift in industry power. Key Takeaways Zillow’s CCP Policy Enforcement – Listings that violate CCP by being publicly marketed before entering the MLS will be banned from Zil...2025-04-161h 09Industry RelationsDoes Size Matter?In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg analyze the latest developments in the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) and its impact on brokerages, MLSs, and the industry at large. They also discuss how exclusive inventory strategies are reshaping competition, the DOJ’s scrutiny of MLS policies, and what these shifts could mean for agents and consumers moving forward. Key Takeaways • Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) Developments – Updates on how MLSs and brokerages are adjusting to changes in CCP and what’s next. • Exclusive Inventory Strategies – How brokerages are leveraging private listings to gain a com...2025-04-0952 minIndustry RelationsClear as mudIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down the big news about the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) and what its potential changes could mean for the future of real estate. They discuss the DOJ’s ongoing investigation into NAR, the evolving landscape of MLS policies, and how major brokerages are responding. With key shifts on the horizon, they explore what these developments mean for agents, brokers, and the industry at large. Key Takeaways • Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) Under Fire – What the latest updates mean for listing practices and market transparency. ...2025-04-0256 minIndustry RelationsHas the fat lady sung on CCP?**This podcast was recorded the Friday BEFORE the announcement from NAR on CCP** In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dissect the latest drama surrounding NAR’s Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP), the DOJ’s stance on MLS rules, and the future of PropTech in a shifting real estate landscape. They analyze how recent DOJ statements are being interpreted (or misinterpreted), debate whether the MLS still holds power over large brokerages, and discuss the potential consequences of a fragmented listing system. Key Takeaways • DOJ’s Footnote Controversy: Did the DOJ “call out” misleading c...2025-03-261h 02Industry RelationsOrganized Real Estate's Head Spinning WeekIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down three major real estate bombshells—the rumored Compass acquisition of Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices (BHHS), the Redfin-Rocket merger, and the potential shake-up of NAR’s Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP). They discuss whether Compass is actually in talks with BHHS or if this is just Wall Street speculation, how Redfin and Rocket could disrupt the brokerage model, and why NAR might be making CCP optional to dodge legal liability. Key Takeaways • Compass x BHHS Rumors: Wall Street Journal reported that Compass was acquiring BHHS—but BHHS CEO Gino...2025-03-1953 minIndustry RelationsMore questions than answersIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg tackle three major industry shake-ups: Gary Keller selling a stake in Keller Williams, REX losing its lawsuit against NAR and Zillow, and the launch of a new NAR alternative, AREA, by Mauricio Umansky and Jason Haber. They debate what these moves mean for the future of real estate, the ongoing battle over commission structures, and whether the DOJ’s real target is the MLS monopoly. If you’re looking for sharp analysis with a side of sarcasm, this episode delivers. Key Takeaways • Keller Williams Goes Pri...2025-03-131h 04Industry RelationsThe Duel over Dual AgencyIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surrounding dual agency, private networks, and the MLS’s role in protecting small brokers. They break down the industry’s long-standing acceptance of brokerage-level dual agency while questioning why teams are getting a pass. Plus, they debate whether Compass’s push to double-end deals is just standard brokerage strategy—or an attempt to reshape the industry. If you want unfiltered takes on where real estate is headed, this episode is for you. Key Takeaways • Is Brokerage Dual Agency Bad? Rob argues that...2025-03-0554 minIndustry RelationsLet Freedom Ring!In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down the latest in the ongoing battle over NAR’s three-way agreement and how Phoenix Realtors’ recent compromise with NAR might reshape the industry. They explore whether this is a true win for NAR or just the beginning of a major shift, debating the rise of the “Freedom Plan” and how it could spread across the country. With bold predictions, deep industry insights, and a fair amount of sarcasm, this episode is a must-listen for anyone keeping an eye on real estate governance. Key Takeaways •...2025-02-2657 minIndustry RelationsLive from the Virtual MLS Summit its Rob and Greg!Overview In this special live episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg broadcast from the Virtual MLS Summit, where they tackle one of the biggest questions in real estate today: What does “cooperation” mean in a post-settlement world? They explore how the industry’s shift away from compensation impacts the role of MLSs, debate the long-standing relationship between brokerages and associations, and challenge whether MLSs should truly be considered “broker cooperatives.” This episode is packed with bold insights, historical context, and plenty of Rob vs. Greg fireworks. Key Takeaways • The Evolution of Cooperatio...2025-02-1938 minIndustry RelationsWhat to do about ZombiesIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into one of the most heated debates yet—was NAR’s fight for survival a necessary battle, or did it do more harm than good? They analyze the fallout from the settlement, discuss the rise of leaders like Michelle Harrington who are ditching corporate-speak for real talk, and debate whether NAR should have surrendered years ago to avoid the lawsuits entirely. Key Takeaways • Michelle Harrington’s Blunt Truths: The First Team CEO calls the settlement “bulls***,” and Rob and Greg love her authenticity. • Corp...2025-02-1258 minIndustry RelationsMLS Reset RecapIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg recap Greg’s recent MLS Reset conference and dive into key industry insights. They discuss governance reform, competition between MLSs, data sharing agreements, and bold ideas for innovation in the real estate world. From pitch battles for tech innovation to thought-provoking commentary on leadership, this episode offers plenty of takeaways for industry professionals. Key Takeaways • MLS Reset Conference Recap: Greg shares highlights, including impactful presentations by Brian Boero, Michael Wurzer, and Curt Beardsley, Ben Graboske, who challenged the industry to embrace optimism. • Governance Reform: Rob em...2025-02-0556 minIndustry RelationsIt ain't over yetIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg navigate the fallout from key legal decisions and the broader implications for the real estate industry. They analyze the Supreme Court’s denial of NAR’s cert petition, its potential effects on DOJ actions, and how shifting dynamics—such as commission lawsuits and housing market pressures—might reshape the landscape. The conversation also previews upcoming events and industry challenges that will define the next chapter of real estate. Key Takeaways • Supreme Court Denies NAR’s Petition: What this decision means for DOJ’s antitrust investigations...2025-01-1546 minIndustry RelationsI Can't Make You Love MeIn this thought-provoking episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the seismic changes shaking up the real estate world as Phoenix Realtors challenge the NAR three-way agreement. They delve into the implications of member-driven value propositions, whether NAR can reinvent itself, and the ongoing debate over what truly inspires and retains Realtor memberships. The conversation is a deep dive into the challenges and opportunities ahead for the industry. Key Takeaways • Phoenix Realtors’ Bold Move: The Phoenix Association’s MLS Choice Program creates a potential watershed moment, questioning the viability of NAR’s three-way agreement. •...2025-01-081h 00Industry RelationsRob and Greg look ahead to 2025In this final episode of the year, Rob and Greg deliver their predictions for 2025, exploring how the real estate industry will evolve. They tackle everything from transaction volumes and mortgage rates to the fate of MLSs and the potential unraveling of the three-way agreement. Along the way, they discuss societal trends, like the importance of community and the role associations can play in bringing people together, while reflecting on industry dynamics and the future of key players like Realtor.com and Compass. Key Takeaways • Predictions for 2025: Rob and Greg forecast transaction numbers, mortgage rat...2025-01-011h 01Industry Relations2024 ORE Year End RecapIn this Industry Relations episode, Rob and Greg reflect on the pivotal events of 2024, dubbing it “The Year of the Settlement.” They analyze the seismic shifts in real estate, including the impact of high-interest rates, low inventory, NAR’s declining influence, and the ripple effects of major lawsuits. The duo also previews what these changes could mean for 2025 and beyond, setting the stage for a new era in real estate. Key Takeaways • 2024: A Year of Change: Why the settlement and other industry events signal the dawn of Real Estate 3.0. • NAR’s Decline: The f...2024-12-2553 minIndustry RelationsChoking on NAR's KielbasaIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg tackle the latest controversies surrounding NAR and the recent investigative article from The New York Times. They debate the role of lobbying, explore accusations of corruption and financial mismanagement, and reflect on the broader challenges facing NAR’s leadership and reputation. Key Takeaways • NAR and Lobbying Controversy: Discussion on how NAR funnels money to political groups through entities like the American Property Owners Alliance (APOA). • The “Woke vs. Conservative” Debate: Examining NAR’s conflicting image as both progressive and a supporter of conservative causes. • Tran...2024-12-1853 minIndustry RelationsSupply, Demand and Deregulation with Professor Bryan CaplanOverview In this special episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg welcome economist and author Professor Bryan Caplan to discuss his latest book, Build Baby Build: The Science and Ethics of Housing Regulation. The trio dives into the housing crisis, exploring how deregulation could address affordability, inequality, and other societal issues. Bryan’s insights challenge conventional thinking, offering bold solutions for the future of housing. Key Takeaways • Core Argument: Bryan argues that excessive housing regulations have driven up costs, stifled innovation, and exacerbated inequality, advocating for widespread deregulation. • The 50% Reducti...2024-12-111h 04Industry RelationsUnderstanding both sides of the housing marketEpisode Summary: In this episode, Rob and Greg tackle the latest developments in the housing market and its broader implications for real estate professionals. From dissecting the DOJ’s recent moves to exploring how transactions and home prices define market strength, the duo brings sharp insights and engaging commentary to these critical topics. Discussion Highlights: • DOJ’s Statement of Interest: What it means for buyer agreements and competition in the real estate market. • Market Metrics Debate: Rob questions whether housing market health should be based on transactions and sales volume ra...2024-12-0458 minIndustry RelationsWhat the DOJ’s recent Statement of Interest really means for real estateEpisode Summary: In this timely episode In this timely episode (recorded Monday, November 25), Rob and Greg dive deep into the DOJ’s recent statement of interest in the Burnett settlement. They break down the key points raised, including the potential antitrust concerns surrounding the requirement for buyers to sign agreements before home tours and the broader implications for real estate brokers and agents. The discussion highlights: • The DOJ’s clarification that compliance with the NAR settlement does not shield brokers or agents from future antitrust actions. • Concerns about how the buyer...2024-11-2753 minIndustry RelationsThe knowns and unknowns of NAR leadership decisionsIn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the latest developments in the real estate world, focusing on leadership, membership dynamics, and the challenges facing NAR in 2024. They engage in a spirited debate about leadership priorities, assessing Nykia Wright’s tenure as CEO, and what it takes to steer an organization during turbulent times. Key Takeaways • Leadership Dynamics: A breakdown of the responsibilities and criticisms of Nykia Wright’s first year as CEO of NAR. • Membership Retention: Insights into how NAR has managed to retain members despite controversies and lawsuits. •...2024-11-2058 minIndustry RelationsAnd they all fall down... Greg just landed back home from NAR Boston and Rob is curious to what insights he learned. Greg’s main insight is that he isn’t as young as he once was. 1. Election Impact on Real Estate: • Rob and Greg delve into the recent election results, exploring how potential changes in government could impact HUD and real estate policies. • Debate on the future leadership of HUD and the potential impacts on the industry. 2. National Association of Realtors (NAR) Conference Recap: • Greg shares insights from the recent NAR co...2024-11-1356 minIndustry RelationsEndless Opportunities with Jack Miller of T360Overview: Rob and Greg talk with Jack Miller, CEO of T360, about the recently released “Opportunity Report” and its significance for the real estate industry. The discussion focuses on how real estate leaders can navigate current challenges and seize opportunities in the face of regulatory changes, declining transaction volume, and industry consolidation. Key Topics: 1. The Opportunity Report: • A newly released report from T360, available for free at theopportunityreport.com. • Provides a 100-page analysis of risks and opportunities in the real estate industry. • Includes insights fro...2024-10-3058 minIndustry RelationsCanned SpamIn the latest episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg venture into a thought-provoking discussion about disaster preparedness and self-reliance. While they typically focus on real estate, this episode broadens the scope, offering practical insights on how to be ready for unexpected emergencies like natural disasters or social unrest. Rob, who has fully embraced the prepper lifestyle, breaks down the importance of planning for short-term disasters, emphasizing the need for essential supplies like water, food, and basic medical skills. Rather than “bugging out” or fleeing, he encourages listeners to “bug in” — stay at home and rely on the...2024-10-2352 minIndustry RelationsThe Industry Needs To Stop FrontingIt seems everyone in the industry is still obsessed with CCP. Rob and Greg are no different. The show starts off with Rob giving Greg some advice on his upcoming client meetings, but quickly shifts to the recent back and forth about CCP. Greg thinks that industry players like Compass CEO Robert Reffkin to stop spreading misinformation about MLS. Rob says there is blame on both sides. Things get interesting from there. Watch us on YouTube! Connect with Rob and Greg: Rob’s Website Greg’s Website ...2024-10-171h 01Industry RelationsWhadup with dat PDAP?Many people don't know or understand NAR's PDAP. PDAP stands for Participant Data Access Policy. And PDAP is at the heart of today's episode. Rob and Greg dive deep into the topic of who actually owns MLS data. The answer, as it turns out, really depends on who you ask. But we’re living in a new world where private MLS ownership is becoming a reality, and also what are those second order consquences? Greg also catches up with Rob about Rob's meetings with brokers and their opinions on MLS data ownership—spoiler alert: they think they do. It’...2024-10-0947 minIndustry RelationsTales from the RoadAfter missing a recording last week (due to travel schedules) the boys are back with another jammed pack episode of Industry Relations. In this week’s episode Rob and Greg discuss recent Blueprint conference in Las Vegas, CMLS 2024 in Seattle and REColorado new subscriber agreement. And they sprinkle a little CCP talking points just for good measure. Watch us on YouTube! Pictures of Greg’s sister, Pilar, winning her own award Pictures of Greg presenting at CMLS 2024 HousingWire post on REColorado acquisition Greg’s take on Rob Reffkin’s...2024-10-0259 minIndustry RelationsCCP MusingsOn this episode of Industry Relations Rob and Greg discuss, for what seems to be the 17th time, the current rumors about the Clear Cooperation Policy. Rob recently posted a few thoughts on the subject and a few solutions to what seems to have the entire industry tied up in knots. What they soon realize, there are no easy answers. Watch us on YouTube! Connect with Rob and Greg: Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Boa...2024-09-201h 03Industry RelationsReading the tea leaves too early and what may be coming nextRob and Greg are back to their regularly scheduled broadcast! The episode includes discussion on Landian, the new “a la carte” brokerage launched by Josh Sitzer, yes, that Sitzer. Rob discusses his recent Sub Stack post on “Amara’s Law and Real Estate” and how we shouldn’t read too much in to how things are going with the NAR settlement. The boys also discuss online dating, new business models, capitalism and agent count. But somehow they bring it all together. Watch us on You Tube! Connect with Rob and Greg: Rob’s Website 2024-09-111h 03Industry RelationsIndustry Relations Podcast: iOi, NAR's new CEO, the CCP and other letters of the alphabetGreg joins Rob from Chicago where he was attending NAR's iOi Summit. Greg gives his experience of being at the iOi Summit and discusses the pitch battle and his favorite new app, Tuesday, and its founder Cole Boyer who won "Crowd Favorite". They go on to discuss NAR's decision to appoint Nykia Wright as their new CEO and if experience in organized real estate or connections in Washington D.C. really matter. As you can imgaine Greg and Rob have different opinions. They finish with discussing the ongoing rumors of the fate of Clear Cooperation Po...2024-09-0557 minIndustry RelationsIndustry Podcast Mash-UpRob and Greg teamed up with James Dwiggins and Keith Robinson from the Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered podcast during the recent Inman Connect Las Vegas event. From the complexities of forms and commission sharing, to the pros and cons of state association forms, the guys got into it. They explored the potential for conspiracy charges in a post-settlement world and discussed the unintended consequences of recent MLS changes. They also tackled determining property value without compensation data, the future of buyer agent compensation models, and how portals are shaping the market. Sh...2024-08-281h 00Industry RelationsEthics and Transparency in CommunicationAre you up to date on the recent changes in MLS rules and buyer agency agreements? In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surrounding these updates and discuss the ethical implications for agents. From forgery to enforcement, confusion to challenges, this conversation covers a lot of ground. They shed light on the need for a substantive approach to reform in the real estate industry, while addressing the loss of trust between practitioners and those making the rules. With potential compression of commissions and uncertainty about the future of the industry, transparency and strong leadership are more...2024-08-211h 02Industry RelationsForgery & HOA KarensAre you a real estate broker or agent grappling with the NAR settlement's requirement for written buyer agreements before showings? Rob and Greg dive deep into the controversy, debating the pros and cons of charging clients and exploring the potential consequences of non-compliance. They also discuss the evolving role of listing agents, the ethical dilemmas of dual agency, and the challenges of enforcing the new rules. Link to Melissa from Twitter Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic. 2024-07-3158 minIndustry RelationsMeltdown: Is the End Near?The August 17th deadline is almost here, and the industry is abuzz with talk of potential changes to MLSs and associations. Rob and Greg discuss the latest developments in the NAR settlement with the DOJ and its potential impact on compensation models, forms, and client relationships. With disruption looming, they delve into the hot topic of buyer agent commissions and agreements, as well as how to continue demonstrating value to clients in this ever-changing landscape. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Find, buy and protect the hom...2024-07-2450 minIndustry RelationsIndustry Soup: Why the Human Touch Still MattersWhat happens when industry news is quiet? Industry soup. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss various topics with an effort to draw parallels to real estate. From their weight loss strategies and detailed plan for a 60-day weight loss regimen to Tesla cars and the emotional connection people have with their vehicles. This conversation covers a lot. Touching on simplicity in design and analog experiences in a tech-driven world. Rob and Greg explore the potential future of technology and the importance of human interaction in both real estate and tech companies. L...2024-07-1747 minIndustry RelationsReal Estate Forms: Consumer-Friendly or Industry-Driven?Are real estate forms truly consumer-friendly or are they just industry-driven? In this episode, Doug Miller and Wendy Gilch, Directors of CAARE (Consumer Advocates in American Real Estate), expose what they believe are the flaws in the current buyer agency agreements. From undisclosed dual agency to lack of cancellation clauses, these forms often prioritize the interests of industry competitors over consumers. Rob, Greg, Doug and Wendy explore potential solutions such as creating consumer-friendly templates and implementing amendments. They dive into the complexities of fiduciary responsibility and touch on hot-button topics like compensation and collusion. ...2024-07-1055 minIndustry RelationsThe REcolorado Acquisition: A Red Pill Moment for BrokersThe recent acquisition of REcolorado by private equity firm GI Partners has sent shockwaves through the real estate industry. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the history of MLS privatization and the tensions between associations and MLSs. They shine a light on the lack of member control and power dynamics within the industry, exposing important truths about data ownership. This is a red pill moment for brokers and agents as they realize the potential risks and benefits of private equity ownership of MLSs. The duo also discuss the trend of decoupling and its potential im...2024-07-0356 minIndustry RelationsEthical Considerations: MLS's Role in Regulating ConcessionsAre you confused about the new MLS policy on commission disclosures and concessions? In this thought-provoking discussion, Rob and Greg dive into the challenges and potential solutions for agents and brokers. Learn about the ethical considerations involved in disclosing commissions to clients and renegotiating buyer agency agreements. Plus, gain insights into the role of MLS in regulating concessions and why further education is crucial. Don't miss out on this must-watch conversation that seeks to shed light on a controversial topic. Share your thoughts and join the conversation by leaving a comment! And...2024-06-2649 minIndustry RelationsThe Disconnect in InterpretationAre you struggling to understand the NAR settlement agreement and its implications for real estate transactions? Joining us in this thought-provoking episode is Ed Zorn, VP & General Counsel for CRMLS. Rob, Greg, and Ed talk about the disconnect between NAR's understanding and other lawyers' interpretations, and what it means for brokers and agents. They dive into topics such as the risk of coordinated action, liability concerns, and the role of MLSs in enforcing rules. They also discuss the concessions field in MLS listings and its potential impact on real estate transactions. This episode is packed wi...2024-06-1957 minIndustry RelationsThe Vagueness of the Language and its ImplicationsYou may have heard the recent statements made by Michael Ketchmark regarding the NAR settlement, but do you really understand the implications for offers of compensation?In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the recent statements made by Michael Ketchmark regarding the NAR settlement. They analyze the settlement agreement and try to understand the implications for offers of compensation. They explore different interpretations of the agreement and the potential legal actions that could be taken. They also address the introduction of concession fields in MLS listings and the possibility of offering compensation off the MLS. Do...2024-06-1252 minIndustry RelationsBravery and Impact of the MLS StanceHave you been keeping up with the latest updates in MLS policies? Rob and Greg break down the key details of Bright MLS's clear cooperation policy and NWMLS's decision not to remove compensation data from their system. But it doesn't stop there. They also dive into the potential legal consequences for fair housing violations and federal antitrust claims. They also touch on the Department of Justice's involvement, implications for the industry, and potential risks for Northwest MLS and other players in the market. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all...2024-06-0539 minIndustry RelationsThe Potential Implications of Dropping CCPAre the rumors true? Is Bright MLS really going to drop the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP)? Rob and Greg explore the potential implications of this decision, and speculate on the motivations behind it and its potential impact on NAR's authority over MLSs. They also talk about the importance of fair housing and transparency in listings, and how this decision could affect competition within the MLS industry. #BrightMLS #ClearCooperationPolicy #CCP #NAR #FairHousing #Transparency #Listings #Competition #Product #MandatoryRule Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Find, buy and protect th...2024-05-3044 minIndustry RelationsPortal Wars and Raising the Bar at NARWho is winning the portal wars? In this episode Rob and Greg talk about the future of the MLS and debate which company they would bet their life savings on – Zillow, REALTOR.com, or Homes.com. Providing insights into these key players of the industry. They also tackle updates on the NAR settlement and how new technologies are shaping the industry. Plus, don't miss their discussion on the influx of new agents in the industry and its effects on professionalism. From separating bad unethical agents from trusted ones to the importance of prioritizing clients' best inte...2024-05-221h 00Industry RelationsWalking the Line - Words MatterWhat is the difference between the threat of steering in an illegitimate way and being transparent and informing your client? In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the difference between steering and fiduciary duty in real estate and other various topics including Greg's recent trip to Boston, Redfin's settlement with NAR, the enforcement of buyer showing agreements, and the potential actions of the DOJ. They also touch on the proposal for making housing affordable and the MLS execs walking out of a meeting. Highlighting the challenges and implications of these issues for the real estate industry. 2024-05-1545 minIndustry RelationsZillow's Touring Agreement and Consumer Experience Simping With buyer agreements having to take place before a showing and Zillow’s new touring agreement what will the end consumer experience be? In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss updates on the NAR settlement and Zillow's new touring agreement. They explore the implications of the settlement for big brokers and the role of the MLS policy committee. They break down Zillow's touring agreement and the industry's reaction to it, highlighting the friction it creates in the seamless consumer experience. This friction resulted in a heated debate between the two, but agreed on the importance of professionalism and...2024-05-081h 00Industry RelationsThe $250M Settlement That will Impact the IndustryHomeServices of America has reached a settlement in the slew of commission lawsuits. Now that a huge domino has fallen, what will happen next in the industry? Rob and Greg discuss the next steps in the commission lawsuits and the potential challenges faced by copycat lawsuits. They also discuss the role of lawyers and the potential opt-out strategy for larger builders. And how fair are these settlements and will it potentially impact recruiting and retention efforts? They discuss other major players like Compass, Keller Williams, and EXP, bringing to light the dynamic changes in the la...2024-05-0157 minIndustry RelationsCoStar Acquires Matterport: The Photography WarsHow will CoStar’s recent buyout of Matterport affect the industry? In this episode Rob and Greg dive into the recent acquisition of Matterport by CoStar and how Rob and Greg predicted this years ago. How will Zillow respond? And how will other industry giants such as Redfin be affected by this huge announcement? They also talk about Realtor.com's CEO, Damian Eales, and his plans to expand the portal's offerings. But beyond the competition between these portals lies an important conversation about raising the bar in the industry and eliminating low-quality agents for the bet...2024-04-2442 minIndustry RelationsUnpacking Pulte Group's Objection to the NAR SettlementJoin Rob and Greg in this episode as they talk about the recent objection filed by Pulte Homes to the NAR settlements. Are they valid and will they make an impact? Also, what is Real Estate 3.0? Greg expands on what it means and how it will shift the roles of agents. Rob shares his insights from a recent panel he attended and what the potential for state regulators intervening in commission decoupling could mean for the industry. They also take a bit of a Q & A during this special livestream episode. #NARsettlement #RealEstate3.0 Listen to the Industry...2024-04-1951 minIndustry RelationsNAR’s Continuing Legal BattlesNot one week goes by without some huge industry news surrounding NAR. In this episode, Rob ang Greg discuss the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals' reversal in the NAR vs. US lawsuit, paving way for a new probe in the wake of the pending commission lawsuit settlement. Rob and Greg explore the antitrust lawsuit's history, implications of the reversal, and how it aligns with their predictions for the industry and future of NAR. Greg talks about the NAR-DOJ agreement and potential political impacts, while Rob focuses on the long-term effects. The dynamic duo stress o...2024-04-1054 minIndustry RelationsThe NAR Settlement Part 2Did you catch the sparks fly on the last episode of Industry Relations? In case you missed it, last week Rob and Greg got into a verbal fistfight. Made up. Became friends again. And are now ready for round 2. Rob and Greg continue their NAR settlement talk, post verbal tussle. Exploring NAR's $418 million settlement, they talk about the association's PR challenges, trust issues, and internal rifts. Questioning leadership and missed PR opportunities, they call for urgent reform. Facing a crucial crossroads, the industry risks becoming a societal scapegoat. Rob and Greg urg...2024-04-0354 minIndustry RelationsThe NAR Settlement: The Good, the Bad, and the UnknownWhat will the recent NAR settlement mean for the future of real estate, technology, and industry navigation? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the outcomes of the recent NAR settlement. They provide insights on the agreement, exploring their reactions and perspectives on the settlement's details. From provisions to backlash, they discuss public perception, legal frameworks, and implications for agents, brokers, and the market. During the discussion, Rob and Greg also disagree with one another at times, and fight like a married couple. After this episode discussing the NAR lawsuit, yet again, should the guys take...2024-03-271h 00Industry RelationsA Multi-Million Dollar Settlement: Unpacking NAR's Landmark Deal with the DOJTune in to this must-listen episode of *Industry Relations* for an incisive breakdown of the NAR's landmark settlement, its ramifications, and the many lingering questions that promise to shape the discourse in real estate circles for years to come. Whether you're a real estate professional, an industry watcher, or just keen on understanding the forces shaping one of the economy's key sectors, this episode is for you. In a pivotal episode of Industry Relations, hosts Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson dive deep into a recent seismic shift within the real estate horizon—The National Association of Realtors (NA...2024-03-2042 minIndustry RelationsIs the Real Estate Industry Getting Their Mojo Back?What does the future hold for real estate commissions? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the Clarity event and the legal updates regarding real estate commissions. They explore the concept of concessions and the issue of steering in the industry, the need for improved buyer agency agreements and buyer presentations and the defiance of industry professionals and the potential impact of government regulations on real estate commissions. Rob and Greg also cover various topics related to the real estate industry, including the myth of the Australian model, the reality of real estate commissions, the relationship...2024-03-1348 minIndustry RelationsDoes NAR have a competence problem?Who bears the brunt of legal defense costs? What financial toll does this uncertainty cast on associations? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the pressing issues faced by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and its profound impact on local associations, MLSs and brokers. The insurance dilemma that has recently come to light, along with the unclear communication and lack of transparency from NAR is concerning to put it mildly. And the conversation doesn't stop at insurance mishaps. Rob and Greg confront the broader issue plaguing the real estate industry - a...2024-02-2852 minIndustry RelationsDOJ Drops Statement of Interest in the Nosalek CaseWhat impact will the Department of Justice's stance on the MLS settlement have on the future of buying and selling houses? In this important episode of "Industry Relations," Rob and Greg talk about a big message from the Department of Justice (DOJ) about the MLS settlement. The DOJ seems to want the court to say no to the settlement. Selling agents might not make as much money as before, and buyers agents might need to show why they're worth their commission more than ever. It's time to start thinking about how we can prepare for change and innovate new...2024-02-2158 minIndustry RelationsSuper Bowl Ripplesultimate cost warrant the spotlight? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss Homes.com's momentous marketing push running an ad during the most watched event in America – the Super Bowl. And its potential ripple effects on industry giants like Zillow. Rob and Greg also revisit the real estate industry's current legal battles. The buzz around the Keller Williams settlement and with consolidation on the horizon, how will ongoing lawsuits reshape the future landscape for real estate professionals? Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Fol...2024-02-1451 minIndustry RelationsThe FCC’s New Rules on Lead Aggregators & Real EstateHow will the FCC’s new rules on lead aggregators affect real estate professionals? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg talk to Matthew Marx of Evocalize about how to stay compliant while still effectively marketing themselves. One of the biggest changes is that lead aggregators will now be required to obtain consent from consumers before obtaining their personal information. So what do real estate professionals who use lead aggregators need to do? Tune in to find out! Follow this link for Matt’s Evocalize FCC TCPA Advisor Chat Bot. Connect with...2024-02-0756 minIndustry RelationsFree Advice to AREA: Focus on ProfessionalismIs the real estate industry ready for an alternative to NAR? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg talk about the American Real Estate Association, also known as AREA, being positioned as a potential replacement for NAR. As it appears no crisis goes to waste, real estate agents across the country are bracing themselves for what could be the ultimate showdown. It’s the potential battle of the acronyms: NAR versus AREA, NLS versus PLS, and so many more. What lessons can we learn from NAR’s recent struggles, and what do these new organizations mean for the...2024-01-3154 minIndustry RelationsWhy Smaller Associations & MLS Organizations Should Make a Deal SoonHow are the FCC rules on lead generation reshaping the insurance and real estate industries? In this episode, Rob and Greg break down the new FCC rules on lead generation and how they are impacting the insurance and real estate industries. Learn how these rules aim to prevent automated robo calls or texts without clear consumer disclosure. Rob and Greg explore the implications for industries like insurance and real estate, including lead resale and lead distribution platforms such as Zillow and Redfin. They also speculate on potential changes for Redfin, such as providing a list of partner agents when...2024-01-2446 minIndustry RelationsDoes the industry need so many REALTORS?Is this industry saturated with REALTORS? Will the part-time real estate agent fall by the wayside? Join Rob and Greg as they discuss industry evolution, challenges in obtaining accurate statistics, and the impact of part-time agents. They reflect on historical decisions, and propose solutions such as restricting REALTOR membership and implementing apprenticeship programs. Listen now to gain insights and thought-provoking solutions for the real estate industry! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast o...2024-01-1756 minIndustry RelationsImpact and Consequences of the Zillow LawsuitWhat happens when a real estate giant like Zillow takes legal action against their own clients? Things get a little complicated as Rob and Greg explore the issues of the delicate balance of being a participant, vendor and MLS organization (sometimes all at the same time!) ***Disclaimer - Due to MLS Aligned being a consulting client of Greg, the views expressed on this podcast are Greg’s opinions and DO NOT represent the views of MLS Aligned.*** Rob and Greg discuss the recent Zillow lawsuit against two MLSs, ARMLS and Metro MLS, which alleges control ove...2024-01-1058 minIndustry RelationsYear-in-Review: What Will the 2024 Real Estate Industry Look Like?It’s the time of year to reflect, predict, and make hopeless new year’s resolutions! On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg look back on 2023 and how much the real estate industry has changed over the span of just one year. From mergers and acquisitions to lawsuits and settlements, Rob and Greg reflect on the tumultuous year that was 2023! We also hear predictions for what’s to come in the new year. Let's go! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relati...2023-12-291h 04Industry RelationsUnwrapping the Real Estate Industry's 2023 Naughty & Nice ListIt's the most wonderful time of the year - Industry Relations' Holiday Special is here! Join hosts Rob and Greg as they unwrap their naughty and nice list for the real estate industry. Who will make it to the top of the nice list? And who won't be so lucky? Find out in this holiday special episode of Industry Relations for insight on who rocked 2023! Tune in now to see our naughty and nice list for the industry. Let's go! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Fo...2023-12-2048 minIndustry RelationsGuiding the Real Estate Industry through the 5 Stages of GriefWhat is the aftermath of recent legal developments in the real estate industry? In this engaging episode, Rob and Greg explore the impactful Sitzer v. NAR case, guiding you through the stages of grief experienced by the industry. From denial to anger, and from bargaining to acceptance, Rob and Greg walk you through the importance of showcasing value and embracing adaptability amidst changing practices. It’s an episode you don’t want to miss! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Follow this link to subscribe to Indust...2023-12-1351 minIndustry RelationsThe Future of NAR: Can This Industry Titan Be Reformed?Should NAR be reformed? What is the role of REALTORS in the lawsuit, and the value of membership in NAR? Join Rob and Greg as they answer these questions and the potential rebirth of the REALTOR movement, the importance of authenticity in communication, and the value of REALTORS sharing their authentic stories to connect with consumers. Plus Rob and Greg throw in their own doom and gloom predictions just to shake things up. Stay up-to-date with the real estate industry with this brand new episode of Industry Relations! Click here for Greg’s latest blog post! C...2023-12-0645 minIndustry RelationsThe Great NAR Debate: Sam DeBord Challenges Rob and Greg!On this episode of Industry Relations, Sam DeBord joins Rob and Greg, and things get a bit uncomfortable as Sam tries to set NAR’s record straight. Tune in as Sam and Rob have a testy disagreement on NAR’s competency, but at the end of the day display their passion for the industry. While Greg tries to keep the peace and believes everyone on all sides can do a better job. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTub...2023-11-291h 15Industry RelationsNAR Conference Recap and ZombiesJoin Rob and Greg on this episode of Industry Relations, as they recap the NAR NXT annual conference and explore some critical issues. Greg shares what NAR NXT's atmosphere was like, and find out why Rob is worried about independent press commenting on NAR. Also, discover the reasoning behind Rob and Greg’s beliefs that the real estate industry is way past prepping and the zombies are breaching the wall! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Follow this link to subscribe to Indust...2023-11-2247 minIndustry RelationsNAR’s Response to the Sitzer Burnett Lawsuit: Jump Ship or Grab A BucketIt’s been a rough week for the real estate industry and in the aftermath of the Sitzer Burnett lawsuit, what does it really mean for everyone in the industry? Tune in to this episode of Industry Relations as Rob and Greg break down NAR’s response to the lawsuit. Find out why Rob believes a lot of people will abandon NAR and why Greg feels that this shouldn't be the spark that sets everyone off. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Follow this link to subscri...2023-11-0855 minIndustry RelationsVerdict’s In Plaintiffs WinLots to unpack in this very special episode of Industry Relations. The Burnett/Sitzer commission lawsuit verdict is in! Rob and Greg share their initial reactions on the $1.785B in damages, what this means for the industry, copycat lawsuits and more in this recorded livestream. They answer viewers' questions and are joined by Mike Simonsen from Altos Research to provide some of his insights on what will likely happen next for the industry. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Rel...2023-11-011h 25Industry RelationsThe Sitzer Burnett Lawsuit: Reactions to Gary Keller’s TestimonyCurious about the biggest takeaways from the high-stakes Sitzer Burnett lawsuit? Tune into the latest episode of Industry Relations and stay up-to-date with Rob and Greg as they dissect week one of the trial. Hear Rob and Greg’s reactions from Gary Keller's testimony, learn about key points in this case, and their insights on what the defense lawyers need to bring to the table. Get informed and stay up-to-date with this intriguing legal battle! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Follow this...2023-10-2544 minIndustry RelationsBurnett v. NAR: The Lawsuit That Could Upend the Housing MarketWhat if we told you that a high-stakes trial in the real estate and technology industry is about to unfold, with potential implications for consumers and the future of the housing market? Today, Rob and Greg are joined by Ed Zorn, Vice President and General Counsel at CRMLS, and they dive into the details of the ongoing Burnett v. NAR trial, exploring the various legal aspects and arguments that could lead to a major disruption for home sales. Join us as we discuss the application of the "per se" standard, the challenges faced by the B...2023-10-1858 minIndustry RelationsCMLS 2023 Recap and Would the Last Member Leaving NAR Please Turn Out the LightsHow valuable is it to be a member of the National Association of Realtors? On this episode of #IndustryRelations, Rob and Greg discuss the value of being a member of the National Association of Realtors (NAR). Will the recent announcements of Redfin leaving and other franchisors taking away the requirement for franchisees being NAR members make a big difference in member count? Greg also shares his firsthand experience at this year's CMLS conference in New Orleans, providing insight into the current state of the MLS industry. Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube pa...2023-10-1155 minIndustry RelationsWhat Has Really Changed In The MLS Industry?On this episode of Industry Relations Rob and I discuss what has really changed in the MLS industry. One thing that has always been a constant in the MLS industry is change. With technology rapidly evolving and consumer demands continuously shifting, it's no surprise that the MLS landscape is constantly adapting. But what does this mean for those working in the industry? Are there new skills or knowledge that are now required to succeed? Greg’s YouTube Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Co...2023-10-0446 minIndustry RelationsThe RE/MAX Settlement And What Happens NextCatch the latest update on the RE/MAX Settlement and its impacts on the real estate industry. Join Rob and Greg as they dissect this essential development and discuss what the future of the industry holds. Gain an in-depth knowledge of this critical lawsuit and stay informed on its far-reaching effects. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg: Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our S...2023-09-2743 minIndustry RelationsBlueprint Conference 2023 RecapOn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg give a recap of the Blueprint conference in Las Vegas. What did they think? Hear why Rob wanted a bit more from the proptech sector and get an insider look at Greg's first time attending the conference. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg: Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors: Notorious VIP2023-09-2039 minIndustry RelationsNavigating the Realogy SettlementAre you up-to-date on the Realogy Settlement? Rob and Greg discuss the settlement between Realogy and the Department of Justice, and explore potential second order consequences. Rob and Greg explore how this settlement can potentially affect major players in the real estate industry. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg: Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors: Notorious VIP This p...2023-09-1346 minIndustry RelationsUnderstanding Personal & Institutional Responsibility In The NAR Sexual Harassment CasesAre you familiar with the recent stories of sexual harassment at NAR in The New York Times? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss how personal and institutional responsibility plays a role in these situations. Tune in to hear how they break down the differences between personal accountability and what role the institution plays in these matters. Follow this link to Rob’s article ‘Revealed Priorities of REALTOR Politics’. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple ...2023-09-0655 minIndustry RelationsRapattoni Outage: Lessons LearnedOn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the recent Rapattoni outage and what the big takeaways are from it. Everything from what caused the outage, how it was managed, and what actions need to be taken to prevent it from happening again! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg: Rob’s Website Greg’s Website Our Sponsors: Notorious VIP T...2023-08-3034 minIndustry RelationsIndustry Relations Reaction: Rich Men North Of RichmondAre you looking for an insightful reaction to the viral video “Rich Men North Of Richmond” and how it relates to the real estate industry? Tune into this episode of Industry Relations with Rob and Greg! They’ll provide their unique take on the video and explain how it applies to real estate. Follow this link for Oliver Anthony’s Rich Men North Of Richmond. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher2023-08-2348 minIndustry RelationsInman Connect Recap and Lawsuit Settlement ScenariosOn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the key takeaways from Inman Connect 2023 in Las Vegas and the potential outcomes for ongoing industry lawsuits. Listen in for an insightful recap of the latest trends and news from the event, as well as settlement scenarios that could shape the future of real estate. Congrats, to our very own Greg Robertson for being the 2023 Inman Connect Nate Ellis Award. The Nate Ellis Award recognizes those in the industry for their community contributions to the real estate industry. “There is no one e...2023-08-1654 minIndustry RelationsBreaking Down The SDAR LawsuitWhat are the potential consequences of the SDAR lawsuit? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the troubling allegations surrounding SDAR's lawsuit. Get the inside scoop on what's behind the allegations, plus what Rob and Greg believe members of SDAR should do. Don't miss this urgent discussion about one of the biggest legal battles in recent times! #SDARLawsuit Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg: ...2023-08-0950 minIndustry RelationsWho Should Lead NAR?Who do YOU think should be the leader of the National Association of Realtors? Is it more traditional leadership or something new and unique? In this thought experiment, Rob poses the question of who should lead NAR? Rob believes that NAR should abolish the CEO role and solely have a four year-term elected president with full executive power. On the other hand, Greg has different thoughts on the matter. Tune in to hear both sides of this important debate now! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Listen to t...2023-08-0245 minIndustry RelationsBreaking Down Low Housing Inventory & Interest Rate Lock InWith the already low housing inventory and a lot of homeowners having low interest rates how will that affect the future of the real estate industry? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg delve into the issue of the low housing inventory and the impact of potential interest rate lock-in. From the national perspective down to local markets, get an in-depth discussion of this vital issue. Thank you to our sponsor, Zenlist. To modernize your MLS visit zenlist.com for more information! Click here to sign up with Zenlist. List...2023-07-2638 minIndustry RelationsExploring the Impact of MLS PIN's Proposed Rule ChangesAre you familiar with the new rule changes proposed by MLS PIN settlement? Join us as we explore the unintended consequences of these changes and how they could affect the real estate industry. Rob and Greg dive into these rule modifications and their potential impact on buyers, sellers, and agents nationwide. Thank you to our sponsor, Zenlist. To modernize your MLS visit zenlist.com for more information! Click here to sign up with Zenlist. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on...2023-07-1929 minIndustry RelationsUnraveling the MLS PIN SettlementAre you curious about the future of the real estate industry and how the MLS PIN settlement could shape it? Join Rob and Greg in this discussion as they dive deep into this groundbreaking development. Get an expert insight into what the effects of this settlement could be, and find out what it means for the real estate landscape. Thank you to our sponsor, Zenlist. To modernize your MLS visit zenlist.com for more information! Click here to sign up with Zenlist. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podc...2023-07-1225 minIndustry RelationsHoward Hanna’s IDX ExodusWhy did Howard Hanna leave IDX? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the recent news of Howard Hanna’s recent exit from the IDX system. Their thought provoking conversation explores why this game-changing decision was made and how it could affect the industry. Tune in as these two take a look inside at what's happening with Howard Hanna and IDX! Click here to sign up for Rob’s Commission Lawsuit Webinar! Thank you to our sponsor, Zenlist. To modernize your MLS visit zenlist.com for more information! Click...2023-07-051h 02Industry RelationsCommission Lawsuit Aftermath: What Brokerages Need To DoOn this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the possible ripple effect that commission lawsuits could have on brokerages. Get ready for a thought-provoking discussion as they paint various scenarios based on different outcomes - it's sure to have you questioning the future of the brokerage industry. Join us for this stimulating journey as we dive into post commission lawsuits. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg: R...2023-06-281h 02Industry RelationsMLS Shifting PrioritiesWhat are some of the shifting priorities at MLS organizations? Have you ever wondered what challenges MLS orgs are facing? In this episode on Industry Relations Greg chats with special guest, Katie Smithson CRO at CRMLS to to break down the transforming priorities within the field. Tune in for all the current industry intel and how MLS organizations are shifting priorities. Nestfully PR mentioned in the show. CRMLS Press Release Styldod Reach out to Katie either by email katie@crmls.org, Twitter: @katiebug621 or LinkedIn Listen to the Industry Rela...2023-06-2150 minIndustry RelationsHomes.com & HomeSnap: Re-imagined Real Estate AlternativesWas CoStar’s acquisition of HomeSnap a giant bonfire or a good move (at the time)? On this week's episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the latest happenings in real estate with a dissection of Homes.com and HomeSnap. As the conversation deepens, they re-imagine what the real estate landscape would look like with alternative histories. All while exploring why some companies are ready to weather the storm while others seem less prepared for the journey ahead. Link to Inman article. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! 2023-06-1442 minIndustry RelationsThe Ugly Truth Behind Real Estate's Unicorn YearsIs it possible to predict the trajectory of the real estate market, given the recent "unicorn years"? Not really. Rob and Greg are here to break it all down as they rage against the “unicorn years”. Join them on this episode of Industry Relations as they delve into residential real estate's past few years, which they believe to be a rare and abnormal occurrence. Rob and Greg explain why this "unicorn" event should not play a role in the predictive models moving forward. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Liste...2023-06-0731 minIndustry RelationsIs Work from Home Killing Commercial Real Estate?How is working from home destroying commercial real estate? Will remote work completely take over in the future? What will become of office spaces? Rob and Greg analyze the impact of the pandemic on the way we work and how it is destroying commercial real estate. They also delve into why working in person might be better for company culture and discuss the positive impact of working face-to-face with colleagues. Don't miss it! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg: 2023-05-3146 minIndustry RelationsMLS v NAR: When Members AttackWhat would happen if MLS decided to leave NAR? Rob and Greg delve into the complex politics behind the relationship between NAR and MLS. They explore what the consequences would be if MLS decided to part ways with NAR. Rob shares his perspective on why MLS would have benefited from taking the vendor route instead of staying with NAR, while Greg raises concerns that the MLS may be apprehensive towards change. Special shoutout to Cole Robertson and his latest Dungeons and Dragons supplement book! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to...2023-05-2443 minIndustry RelationsHeadlines, Mid-Year, and Tax Free Proposals: A Hahn Solo EpisodeHow is NAR doing at mid-year? Also, get Rob’s undivided attention as he reacts to the latest real estate headlines. It’s a special special Hahn solo episode of Industry Relations, as Rob breaks down everything you need to know about the recent NAR mid-year and even reveals his tax free proposal to combat housing issues. Don't miss out on all of the news and insights surrounding real estate — tune in for this can't-miss episode! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple List...2023-05-1741 minIndustry RelationsCommission Lawsuits: Real Estate Armageddon or No Big Deal?It’s real estate armageddon! Ok, maybe not. But is it close? In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the recent commission lawsuits that have been plaguing the real estate industry. In the Moehrl vs. the National Association of Realtors, et al. case, the plaintiffs are pursuing over $13 billion in damages as they claim that they had to incur a cost that ideally should have been paid by the homebuyers themselves in a fair and competitive market, which is the buyer's agent commission. Rob and Greg explore the potential implications of thes...2023-05-1047 minIndustry RelationsWhy Real Estate Needs Separation of Church and StateWhat’s it like being a technology company in the world of real estate and MLS? And why does it seem like there needs to be some "separation of church and state." in real estate? Join Rob and Greg in this episode of Industry Relations as they chat with Stuart White, CEO at Realtracs. They delve into the tech side of real estate and why Realtracs is paving the way in treating MLS members. To see how Stuart and his team are leading real estate tech visit them at Realtracs. Listen to the podcast on Ap...2023-05-0354 minIndustry RelationsFear or Optimism: What Drives the Housing Market?Do you fear the current state of the housing market? In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the current market conditions and why it's important to approach the situation with a balanced perspective. While optimism is certainly warranted, it's crucial to acknowledge the reality of the situation and understand potential pitfalls that may arise. Tune in to this episode where Rob and Greg talk about why we need to temper optimism with reality. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen t...2023-04-2645 minIndustry RelationsHow Can We Make Housing Affordable For Everyone?How can we make housing affordable for everyone? Rob and Greg explore how we can make housing more accessible and affordable for all. From creative solutions to policy changes, watch as we unpack the different strategies available to make housing affordability a reality. Tune in now to learn how you can help create a future where housing is within reach! Listen to the podcast on Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450 Listen to the podcast on Stitcher https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations C...2023-04-1948 min
Listing BitsRaising Standards in Real Estate with Rob Hahn (The Notorious R.O.B.)The Notorious R.O.B., Robert Hahn, is Managing Partner of 7DS Associates, a real estate consulting firm that specializes in developing and implementing corporate strategy including product management, brand marketing and social networking. Hahn has a wide range of experience. His holds a BA in Philosophy from Yale and a graduate degree from NYU School of Law. After working briefly for a firm, he took a 98% pay cut to work as a magazine editor. Hahn’s diverse resume also includes positions at USA Networks, Inc., Kinesis Marketing and Realogy. Hahn launched his consulting career in...2017-01-2428 min