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Where the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows Thin - GriefBen and I got together on Zoom the other day and had a short albeit rich discussion about different kinds of grief. The different layers of grief, the different names for grief. And in doing that I started thinking about how pivotal grief is in our lives and how sad it is that we spend most of our life running away from it, trying to ignore it or making excuses for it.We’re going to continue this discussion. We just hadn’t talked in a while and Ben called to check in and there you have it...2025-06-2017 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows Thin - May 30Have you ever found yourself questioning how much you can let yourself be seen?How open you want to be about how you really feel about something? How honest you are comfortable being with friends and family, how safe you feel in different relationships?And when we know someone needs us to be a certain person, to show up in their life in a certain way, how does that feel when it is not how we are feeling inside in that moment?Join Ben and I as we discuss the truth, t...2025-05-3031 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows Thin with guest Isa CattoPlease join me as I welcome Isa Catto to this episode of Where the Veil Grows Thin.Isa Catto's daughter, Bailey, left Colorado for a dream job on Broadway. A charismatic, intellectual, smart, funny young woman, Bailey died just days after graduating high school when she took a drug laced with Fentanyl.Isa graciously agreed to come talk about what Bailey's life was like up until that moment and how her death has disrupted, shattered and reshaped their lives.For more on Isa, please subscribe to her Substack – Swimming at AltitudeTh...2025-04-2547 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows Thin - The Power of Random EncountersJoin Ben and I as we explore the random encounters in life and the depth and richness that can be found in those moments. We talk about the way reminders of mortality, whether our own or someone else’s, change us. And what we do with what we learn when we wake up and step out into the world.Next episode I'll be welcomg Isa Catto to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can learn more about her at isacatto.com.Ben briefly mentioned dyingtoserve.com in this episode.Thank you for listening to...2025-04-1821 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinI Am. And Will Never, Not Be (continued)Defining faith is a personal, intimate thing to be asked to do. Join Ben LeRoy and I as we step into the conversation that lead us to realize that what we were talking about was just that; a definition of faith. Different for everyone. And important to have if we want to be able to move through our days and nights and come out relatively intact.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2025-03-0713 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinMetastatic Community GoodnessJoin Ben and I as we talk about the idea of metastatic joy and goodness; the question of how to spread goodness and the idea that it is so ingrained in us to not talk about the things we do that are good, that we forget how important it is to talk about the good things others are doing in our communities thus inspiring more of that to grow. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2025-02-1828 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows Thin - with guest Gloria HeffernanRecently I shared the poem "Proxy" by Gloria Heffernan. Join me now in listening to my conversation with her about the way grief and loss have helped her learn the importance of being a peaceful presence in the world.About this episode of Where the Veil Grows Thin:Gloria Heffernan is the author of the poetry collection, What the Gratitude List Said to the Bucket List (New York Quarterly Books) and Exploring Poetry of Presence: A Companion Guide for Readers, Writers, and Workshop Facilitators (Back Porch Productions). She has also written two chapbooks, Some of O...2025-01-2534 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinGrief, the common denominator, with special guest Sonja LinmanJoin me and my dear friend, Sonja Linman, for a 30 min conversation about grief, the great denominator of humankind....the most common thread that connects us all. We talk about our lives working with children who are grieving. How they so beautifully teach us what they need from us or the times when they cannot how we have to trust we have it in us somewhere. We talked about Sonja being a monthly guest to talk in her unique and wise ways about grounding, having an open heart, listening in stillness and walking in silence. She is richly connected...2024-12-1327 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinNew Month. New Moon. Old Magic.I wanted this to be between 5 and 6 minutes and I'll get there some day but this week our moment of meditation/reflection is just over 7 minutes. Hopefully, it will be 7 minutes well spent.It is December 6th. We have just over 4 more weeks of what I'm calling 'the holidays'. And then, Valentine's Day.These reminders, often of things we've lost, don't stop. Learning to ground in those moments of disruption can be a helpful tool and this meditation is just one suggestion for a way to do that.Thank you for listening to Wh...2024-12-0607 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinFinding Courage in ChaosPlease join Ben and I to explore just what it means to feel cowardice and show up anyway; what it means to doubt and question our ability to open ourselves to failure and show up anyway; what it means to trust.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-11-2231 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinGuided Meditation: Loving KindnessMay this 13 minute meditation help remind you to love yourself exactly as you are. May it help you remember you have something to offer the world. May it help you find a moment of solace and comfort and safety in an otherwise crazy day. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-11-1513 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinGuided Meditation: Warm HoneyThis short 9 minutes is offered as a way to help us remember that we've got this, we really are ok and we have this wonderful way of centering in goodness and light. We can all be visionaries!Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-11-0809 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe Sanctity of LonelinessThis 9 minute episode reflects on a lesson learned long ago. Initially through tears of sadness and feeling lonely and later understanding the honor and the sanctity of that loneliness.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-11-0109 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinEnergy Thread MeditationSometimes, in less than 10 minutes, we can recalibrate and re-align with a clearer understanding and a renewed connection. I hope for some, this 'less than 10 minutes' feels worth the listen.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-10-2508 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe Raft MeditationThis guided imagery is one that uses the vision of a mountain lake on a beautiful summer day. These offerings are best utilized at home or anywhere that you can create the space necessary to listen with your eyes closed. I hope it eases you into your weekend with a greater sense of peace.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-10-1109 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhen Time Is ShortA couple of weeks ago I wrote about a sleepless night spent thinking about my death. Since then, I’ve had a couple of people ask me what I have seen happen to others when the reality of their death becomes very clear. What kinds of ‘shifts’ in their day to day life? What kinds of shifts in their focus? Do priorities rearrange suddenly? Join Ben and I as we discuss some of the ways people approach their own mortality.You can also watch this episode on YouTube here.Thank you for listening to Where the Ve...2024-10-0121 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinA Bubble of Light MeditationThis is the first offering of a guided meditation. It will ask, if you are willing, that you listen with your eyes closed. Please don't try to listen and drive, or listen and cook, or listen and do anything else. I can promise you, it will lose something if you do.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-09-2708 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinIntro to MeditationsI thought this would be my first podcast of guided imagery. Not exactly meditation. Not in the sense some of you may be used to. These will be moments of grounding, thoughtful words of possibility, offerings of ‘what if’. This first one requires nothing of you but a listening ear. Next week, I’ll ask a bit more of you if you are willing.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-09-2011 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe HarvestA very short 'little something' I wrote to close a weekly meeting of cancer patients. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-09-1303 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinOut of the BlueWhen things happen, completely out of the blue, do they really come from nowhere? Are they really, just, a coincidence?Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-08-3104 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinEighteen Minutes of a Ten Hour DayIt was a 10 hour day working a rare shift at the hospital and it is pretty well captured in this 18 minute episode.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-07-2119 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinHolding SpaceThis 22 minute is episode is base on a talk I wrote when I was asked to speak at the local Methodist Church. It is based on a conversation Ben and I had recently about hospice and NODA trainings and whether or not I thought the things we teach in those trainings could help people in everyday living right now while the world seems so chaotic.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-06-3022 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinAvoiding BurnoutAnother meaningful conversation with Ben Leroy about avoiding falling on the double edged sword of internal pressure to be and do everything and external pressure to be and do more.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-06-0823 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinSummer BreakA brief episode this week.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-05-2603 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe Business End of DyingIn this episode Ben and I are talking about things we can all do to alleviate some of the difficulties so many people face when a loved one has died with nothing taken care of. It was a rich discussion when we started to record it so it begins a bit abruptly. We will re-visit this topic soon.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-05-1922 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinSuicide GriefIn this episode we begin to look at the varying ways grief is altered when someone dies as a result of suicide. If you have never known anyone who died from suicide, you may not understand and if you have, you absolutely will.This was not an easy episode to write. And in recording it I realize there is so much more we can talk about when talking about the devastation left in the wake of most suicides.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you...2024-05-1213 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe Double Threshold In this weeks 17 minute episode I am joined again by Ben LeRoy to talk about the way hospice experiences and trainings can carry over into a world that feels chaotic and unstable. We explore the possible benefits for daily practices that help keep us grounded as we leave our homes to do whatever it is we need to do. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-05-0517 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinA Matter of TimeIn this 11 minute episode, I share my personal and private thoughts about time. How I see it, how it impacts my daily life and I wonder aloud if I am alone.                                                                                                                                                  And, I don’t think so...Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-04-2811 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinStepping In ItIn this 12 minute piece I am speaking about the state of the world and whether or not it is better or worse than we found it when we were born. Offering some ideas about how we, as individuals, might effect change and how we, as communities, already do.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-04-2112 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinIs It Ever Too Late Is it ever too late to make amends with somebody? To say the thing that is on your heart? What if our bucket lists weren't filled with trips to far away places, but in making sure we've made our peace with the people in our lives who have had an impact? Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-04-1409 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinHow to Be PresentI'm excited this week to introduce another new visitor, my friend and producer Ben LeRoy. It's a 26 minute conversation about how to be present for family and friends who are in a Hospice experience.This episode is also available on Youtube.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-04-0726 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWoulda, Coulda, ShouldaThis 12 minute episode explores the place hindsight can have in our lives when we are processing loss. Those things we wish we’d done or not done and what we do with that awareness.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-03-3112 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinAnother Child of GodIn this episode I am recalling an exquisite moment of beauty and grace in the middle of the worst possible nightmare.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-03-1713 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe Right to Die with Guest Doula Shelby HawkinsThis is an exciting episode for me because it will also be published on You Tube. Shelby joined me to talk specifically about Medical Aid in Dying, referred to here as MAID. What it can do for a person's peace of mind and what the process of bringing a family on board can look like. The right to die is something I feel deeply passionate about and something I am very comfortable talking about.  I am excited to share that with someone who is still actively working as a death doula.Thank you for listening to Where t...2024-03-1035 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinGrief with a Capital G Today we dive a little more deeply into that big black cauldron of stuff called grief. I've had people request that I speak more about my work as a grief counselor. It isn't something that can be covered all at once so we'll put our toes in the water and see how it feels. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-03-0316 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinA Grandfather, a Dog, and a Horse Named JimToday I'm talking a bit more about how animals respond to us when we are grieving and how beneficial it can be to align with one when we are sad.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-02-2515 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinAkalJeetThis 40 minute episode welcomes special guest, Akaljeet Khalsa, who  joins me to talk about her work as a Life Coach and Death Doula, how she came to the work, what it looks like and what she does. We explore the three main components of her work being:Planning, Active Death Care and After Death Care. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-02-1840 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinInterruptionsThis piece came as a result of feedback from listeners that not all deaths are like my mom’s. I already knew that, but  hadn’t written about it.                        Today, I do.                                                                                                                                                 Not all death is graceful.                                                                                                                   Dying can sometimes bring the very worst of who we are out into the open.                                                                                                                                                      Caring for someone when they are at their worst can be a challenge.  If they are someone we love, even loving them can be hard.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-02-1117 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinRonaldThis relatively short episode is an experience I had very early in my work as a hospital chaplain. It is about the honor of sitting with this gentleman.And how a brief sighting the night before helped set the groundwork.I was not then and I am not now ever very surprised by the way things seem to unfold. I have had very good teachers. Some of them in class rooms and some of them in hospital rooms.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can a...2024-02-0415 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinPrecious and Grannie‘Grannie’ was 100 years old. I never saw her out of bed so I don’t know if she was short or tall, lean or heavy. She had a cat who loved her fiercely and all of us knew that cat was unpredictable and cruel in her punishment if she thought you were trying to do something to Grannie. The cat’s name was Precious and I remember how Grannie smiled when I questioned the choice of names after the first time Precious turned her claws on me. It was a beautiful thing to behold the way Precious would tend to Grann...2024-02-0416 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows Thin14 Patients in 14 DaysThere are always waves in end of life work. In hospice work, we know going in, that someone is going to die. But not everyone understands what that really looks like. Sometimes, people think they want to work in hospice but the emotional costs turn out to be too high. I guess I was lucky. I came to it because it had come to me in the most magical way when I was given the gift of bearing witness to my mom’s death in 2000. As a result I know I came to hospice with an incredibly high bar fo...2024-01-2110 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinEllenIf there is magic in the time we spend with those who are dying, it is in the listening. It is in the revelations and the epiphanies and the secrets they may tell us. It is in the way their lives spiral inward to reveal the truest beauty in the smallest detail of how we show our love.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-01-1409 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe Places We Hide and the Reasons We Do ItWhere and why I hide. Not wanting to assume that this applies to anyone else, I will just own it right now. This is about me. Maybe it's about you too.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2024-01-0715 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinNew Years EveFour minutes. Four minutes to think about new beginnings, family traditions, and resolutions. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-12-3104 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinChristmas EveGrief and Loss do not take days off.  Death comes without regard to what day it is or what the day might mean to us and Christmas is no exception. This is a short 7minute episode speaking to all of us as a way to help hold the light steady for those whose lights have been temporarily diminished.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you g...2023-12-2407 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinGabriel's MomOn November 26th, if you listened to that episode, you met Gabriel. Today, you will get an inside-behind-the-scenes glimpse into his mom, (a 26 year old mother of 3 boys) after she made one of the hardest decisions of her life and had the youngest of them cremated after his death. And just a couple of other details about that time in her life that were not included in Gabriels Wings.....Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-12-1722 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinDeath Teaches Us About Our FaithI have found very little in my life that has taught me as much or taught me as well what it is I believe than sitting with those who are dying. What we believe in, where we hold our faith, how we manifest surviving loss, are all, in my opinion,  layers of how we grow and expand our humanness.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-12-1014 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinNine WomenThis episode describes the fist grief support group I ever led and the impact it has had on my life.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-12-0318 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinGabriel's WingsThis story is sweet and tender. It is beautiful in its sadness. It is a memory I will carry forever. With grateful grace and humility.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-11-2622 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinLemonade, The Seeds of Grace and No One DiedThis is the final piece to the story I started 3 weeks ago. It wraps all those pieces together around what happened to keep me home when we had a 3 week road trip all planned out and how the world brings what we need and gives us what we didn't know we wanted.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-11-1914 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinGrief and the HolidaysI decided to slip this in as soon as I could. It interrupts the final episode of the saga about my recent  personal life but I felt it was important to try to offer these few words to those who might be grieving as we enter the next few months. The possible landmines that lie waiting don't have to catch us off guard.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-11-1214 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinOff the Cuff and Worth the RiskAfter recording the episode published on Oct 29th about resiliency, I stayed in the closet and recorded todays episode. There were so many things happening bam bam bam in our lives and it just felt necessary to continue the train of thought. I am already composing next weeks episode as a sequel to this and then I promise I'll be done. We'll get back to things that are not so personal to my life.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for...2023-11-0523 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinResiliencyTodays 15 minute episode looks at the desire we often have to reclaim the life we were living before some event took us sideways through the river (and then through the woods) while also opening the idea that it can sometimes be just one more way we prolong the suffering when something uninvited and unwanted falls from the sky. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-10-2914 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinResistance = SufferingIn this weeks episode, I talk about the connection between pushing away those things we don't want actually making them grow. I often say in my work with those who grieve, it's in the 'againstness' to what is, to what has come,  that we suffer the most. It's a lot to ask someone who has been assaulted by loss to ever believe they can make friends with what has happened. But without that acceptance, that welcoming, the suffering will continue. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever yo...2023-10-2211 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows Thina Really Short Story about a Really Big DealThis short 7 minute episode recounts the recent moment when I realized I do not need to carry all the details of my experience of someone's story as much as I need to carry the gift their story left me with. I don't need to remember names, dates and places so much as needing to remember what the experience may have taught me. But in learning this, I was momentarily caught off guard by a feeling of being inadequate, a feeling of being old and a feeling of being unworthy of the honor being given when I am invited i...2023-10-1507 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinMoving Something Out To Move Something InThis is a piece I wrote about an experience I had in trying to make room on my bookshelves for new books.  It's kind of funny and eye opening. It translated into all kinds of areas in my life. A parallel process of epiphanies and awakenings.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-10-0812 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinHow One Hospice Patient Changed Her Hospice Nurse's LifeWe tend, at times, as care providers to camouflage or deny our feelings when the ones we are caring for are a 'job'. Even when it isn't our job, we sometimes don't know what to do with emotions that come up. After all, we are going to be fine, the one we are caring for is dying, so why should we get to be sad? This is the story off how one woman helped her hospice nurse see that the best care happens when we open our hearts and allow our emotions to be seen.Thank you...2023-10-0115 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinFull Spectrum ConnectionIn this episode I talk about the parallels between my Montessori work life and my work with those in Grief. Exploring the necessity to sometimes 'go back' before we can more successfully move forward. And how in going back, we find a deeper understanding and appreciation for what lies ahead.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-09-2412 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe Rest of Mom's StoryThe piece missing from the story of my mom's death is what she wrote to us in her legacy letter. The story she told, after 32 years of silence, about an event we shared during one summer vacation. It is, in large part, responsible for my decision to leave teaching and start down this road of working with people at end of life.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-09-1718 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhen Hospice Comes UpJust the mention of the word Hospice can sometimes cause great distress to a family.  But when someone is appropriate, in other words if their illness  qualifies them for Hospice services, NOT mentioning it is wrong. Generally, all people know is that Hospice means someone will die. And that is true. So, how do we make friends with that reality?  How do we ease ourselves into that knowing and maintain a calm presence? One way is by learning what it is Hospice can do, what things a healthy Hospice agency can bring to a families experience of losing a l...2023-09-1011 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinMy Own MomI have mentioned how I came to be doing this work. And when asked, if someone has the time, I will tell them this story. It was a pivotal time in my life, as one can well imagine, a time of great change and growth. And, it's a very sweet memory.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-09-0321 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhen Little Souls Leave Too SoonThe title of this piece kind of says it all as far as what the subject matter might be. It's a very short 7 and a 1/2 minute slice of my life....Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-08-2707 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinSome Thoughts on GriefGrief is something we all know. It is not something we necessarily know what to do with.  This episode is a sort of beginners guide to knowing how to be with someone else who is grieving, while hopefully also addressing what each one of us can do for ourselves when we suffer a loss.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-08-2021 minFinding Forward in GriefFinding Forward in Griefno room for doubt.This short episode is about NOT DOUBTING “what lies beyond” when life suddenly takes a southward turn… I also share a few thoughts that my long-time mentor and friend, Sean Jeung, shared with me about how, in all her many years working as a chaplain for Hospice, she could not believe how many firm “believers” in God would suddenly have doubts the moment their loved one passed to the “other side.” Sean has a beautiful new podcast series called, “Where the Veil Grows Thin,” that you can find at her website, https://seanjeung.com. I highly recommend it!!!! ~~ Follow my videos of this ser...2023-08-1710 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe Language of CancerI realized, when I listened to this, that some of what I say sounds harsh. When I wrote it I was on a soap box for reform and expansion in the way things happen when someone is diagnosed with a life-limiting disease. I know I wear my comfort with talk of death sometimes too loudly, and I am choosing to publish it anyway, with this caveat: I have respect for and faith in all the doctors I have ever had the honor to work with in my career.  I know every single one of them comes to work each d...2023-08-1312 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe 11th Hour Part IIPart Two of a two part piece on sitting with someone who is actively dying. In this 19 minute episode we continue the conversation on what it looks like to be in the home of someone who is actively dying and what happens at the moment of and the moments after death occurs.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-08-0619 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe 11th Hour Part IThis two part series is based on a training I did for hospice volunteers interested in sitting vigil with people actively dying. As Death Doula work gains popularity here in the US.  it feels appropriate to take the opportunity to talk about what it looks like to be in someones home when they are dying, or to sit with someone in a facility who is actively transitioning. There is so much to be said, I barely scratch the surface but it's a good starting place if you think you have ever wanted to volunteer for hospice, or if you a...2023-07-3018 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinA word about balanceWe hear a lot about 'balance' these days; the necessity for it in all areas of our lives. In this episode, we take a look at how the compartmentalizing of our various roles in life can make our heads spin when we think we have to try to balance so many hats; and how the possibility of seeing ourselves as all we are all the time can actually help us feel more whole and more balanced.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts...2023-07-2318 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinRegretsThis episode was the result of someone in a grief group asking, 'What do the rest of you do with regrets?" and the amazing conversation that followed.When I was asked shortly after that to be a guest speaker at a local church I said I would if I could talk about Regrets. This is what came forth.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-07-1614 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinCancer Center NascarThis story took shape after a particularly challenging week in our cancer center.  Staff shortages and a wave of deaths among our patients helped teach me how a small group of individuals can pull together to see one another through. And, a week that showed me the toll it can take in the process.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-07-0910 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinAshleighThis story was written in 2014. It was one of the first I wanted to record for this website. I think it was because this experience became a driving force behind my passion for what hospice can bring to a family. Even if the loved one in question never signs up. In rural communities like ours, connectors become vital for optimum outcome. At a certain point, the outcome of someone not dying isn't an option, but we can move mountains to try to make a dying persons wish come true. I believe that often, in a family's later memories, succeeding...2023-07-0218 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinBlessing of the AnimalsI cannot recall a time in my life lived without a dog, or multiple dogs.  Animals are the closest we ever come to unconditional love in this life. They are the very best therapists for those who grieve. This story, even though it involves tragedy, is beautiful for all the reasons anyone who loves animals already knows. Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-06-2507 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe Dying MinisterI was asked once to sit in a busy cafeteria with an older gentleman who had just been told his cancer did not respond to treatment, and he chose to go home with hospice care. It could have been awkward and uncomfortable, but somehow, he made it easy. We felt a protective bubble around us and we just talked, uninterrupted, and as though we'd known one another for years.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-06-1805 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinHer name was GraceThe story of one afternoon that brought the surprise gift of sitting with a dying patient in the hospital before I knew anything at all about any of this, except what my mom had shown us in her dying.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-06-1108 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe backstory & in the blink of an eyeBefore we could air this podcast I needed to find, and ask the blessing of, 3 individuals.  I was gratefully surprised by how beautifully they received me and how readily they agreed to allow the story to be aired. I was also made aware that for some people, these stories will allow for a re-visiting of memories from long ago......Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-06-0415 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinSilver linings, gold nuggets, shifting sands & spongecakeIn this episode, Sean looks at world challenges from a different angle; one that might help us feel less alone, less afraid, less hopeless.Thank you for listening to Where the Veil Grows Thin. You can always get these wherever you get your podcasts or for more information, visit seanjeung.com.2023-05-2813 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinBrianFirst, thank you for coming to this site. Today's podcast is a story written many years ago. This particular death was the only one that ever sent me home. When I walked into the office and learned that he had died, I had to leave. Join me now as I remember the impact one hospice patient had on my life 20 years ago. Even though I never met him, never spoke with anyone in his family and never knew what happened in their lives after his death, his funeral service changed the course of my work; opening my eyes to...2023-05-2107 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinThe BeginningWhen I was little I prayed that I would die before anyone I knew or loved because I was so sure I couldn’t bear the loss. I was sure that the enormity of the grief would swallow me whole or spit me out all chewed up, ugly and unlovable. I did not want to know that kind of pain. Then, someone I loved died.  And I survived the pain, but grew just a tiny bit less naive. Still, I went on to think, “Okay, so I was lucky on that one. I...2023-05-1303 minWhere the Veil Grows ThinWhere the Veil Grows ThinWelcome to Where the Veil Grows ThinWelcome to the culmination of a life. I am grateful for your presence and appreciate you being here.I had intended for this introduction video to give you both the back story as well as what you might expect to find here as time goes on. However, a work in progress is an unfolding that, until it reveals itself, cannot be explained. My biggest hope now is that these stories will be shared with those who might benefit. Please feel free to do that.   Love, SeanThank you for listening to Whe...2023-05-1203 minThe AACC PodcastThe AACC PodcastRussell Jeung on Justice and Political EngagementWhat does the intersection of justice and political engagement look like Biblically? What should this mean for the Asian American Christian community right now? Raymond Chang and Michelle Reyes sit down with Dr. Russell Jeung, author and professor of Asian American Studies at San Francisco State University, to talk about Biblical political engagement and to reflect on Asian American involvement in the recent election. Dr. Russell Jeung is a professor of Asian American Studies at San Francisco State University and the author of several books  and articles on race and religion, including, Family Sacrifices: The Worldviews and E...2020-12-0727 min