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A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderUsing EMDR to Heal When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Amy Wagner, LMFT/LMHCDrew & Garden System have a candid conversation with Amy Wagner, LMFT/LMHC! Amy Wagner is an EMDRIA approved consultant and they all discuss the many dos and don'ts of using EMDR when clients live with dissociative identity disorder. They discuss the eight phases, resourcing skills, and what to do when clients dissociate or switch during session. You won't want to miss this amazing discussion!Thank to our sponsors for this episode:Alix Amar with Dissociative Creative ExplorationsHealing Selves TherapeuticsAmy Wagner, is a Holistic T...2025-05-271h 01A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderLearn to Recognize Dissociation with Dorinna Ruh, LCSWDid you know that dissociative disorders are almost as common as mood disorders? Drew & Garden System chat with Dorinna Ruh, LCSW and cover valuable information about prevalence rates, how to recognize dissociation in yourself or in your client, ways to assess for a dissociative disorder, and a few EMDR tips as well! If you're working with complex trauma, then you're working with dissociation. You won't want to miss this episode!About Dorinna Ruh, LCSW:Dorinna’s career has spanned 34 years, as she became a counselor in 1989, working in the substance abuse field. She obtained her Ma...2025-05-131h 42A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderPart III The Hot Topic: Sex & Intimacy When You Have Dissociative Identity DisorderNote: We highly encourage you to listen to Parts I & II before listening to this episode, as we continue to honor our truth and authenticity, which may feel more intense than the previous episodes on this subject. We would like for you to be able to determine if this episode will be something you want to listen to or pass on, so here are some details of what we share in this season 3 finale. The first thing we talk about is being "turned on" and how that isn’t always a good feeling and can be triggering. And then we...2025-03-1134 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderWhen Your Parent Has Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Garden System's Adult ChildrenDrew & Garden System have a candid conversation with Garden System's two oldest children, both adults now, about what it was like growing up with a parent that has dissociative identity disorder. Please visit acoupleofmultiples.com to see all of our current offerings!Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way t...2025-02-2551 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderBeing a Parent When You Have Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew & Garden System give an off script interview of each other and share personal stories of what it is like to be a parent when you have dissociative identity disorder. They each dive into topics such as how different selves show up as a parent, interact with the children, and how they navigate the challenges that having DID brings to the role of parenthood. They also touch on the challenges of being a blended family.Please visit acoupleofmultiples.com to see all of our current offerings!Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:...2025-02-1154 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderInternal Relationships within Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew and Garden System talk about how in the beginning a system feels separated from each other, even feeling like enemies. There often is difficulty in listening to selves, because it is hard to learn and believe what parts hold and about trauma that occurred. They talk about how they developed relationships within their systems, navigating selves with different values, beliefs and behaviors. Drew and Garden System share personal stories about improving relationships by building trust, figuring out what is important to different selves, compromising and coming together as systems. Also covered is the often necessary topic of adult...2025-01-2839 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderPart II The Hot Topic: Sex & Intimacy When You Have Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew & Garden System go more in depth about sex & intimacy and how it affects one's romantic relationship. They talk about sexual alters, the challenges littles bring, and how they have navigated personal experiences in the moment. They wrap up discussing shame and how they came into acceptance of their sexuality. Obvious trigger warnings apply.Interested in attending the System Mapping workshop this Friday, January 17th from 7pm EST to 11pm EST? You can sign up here: https://calendly.com/mindfulmultiplicity/system-mapping-workshop.Interested in joining our paid on-line community, Hearts Multiplied? Sign u...2025-01-1433 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderFinding Community When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Jaime Pollack, founder of An Infinite MindDrew & Garden System have a friendly conversation with Jaime Pollack, founder of An Infinite Mind and the Healing Together conference for those with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and mental health clinicians. They talk about the power of community and how finding others with DID have positively impacted their healing journey. Jaime shares pertinent information about the Healing Together conference that is held each year in Orlando, Florida, with the next one coming up on February 14th - 16th 2025! You can register now by visiting https://www.aninfinitemind.org/healing-together-conference.Jaime Pollack lives in Central Florida where she...2024-12-3158 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderThe Hot Topic: Sex & Intimacy When You Have Dissociative Identity Disorder Part IDrew & Garden System have an honest talk about sex and intimacy and how it affects one's romantic relationship. They talk about how their different selves show up in the relationship, the challenges of engaging in sex, and strategies to manage the triggers that inevitably come up. This episode definitely contains TMI and colorful language and the trigger warning should be obvious here, peoples.If you enjoyed this episode please leave us a review! You can visit our website at: acoupleofmultiples.com. Remember, every system is unique and your experiences may be different from ours. And that’s ok...2024-12-1734 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderThe Therapeutic Relationship & Clients with DID: An Interview with Kelly Caniglia, LCMHC/LMHCIn this incredible interview episode, Drew & Garden System dive into the therapeutic relationship with Kelly Caniglia, a Somatically focused Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in North Carolina, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in FL, a Clinical supervisor in both states as well as Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Kelly specializes in working with Dissociative Identity Disorder and the plural community. Kelly was first introduced to the DID community, in 2012, through advocacy work as a Clinical intern with An Infinite Mind, and international nonprofit focused on the education and advocacy for individuals living with DID. Immediately, Kelly knew this was the...2024-12-031h 36A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderSo, Your Spouse Has DID? An Interview with Gianu System & JonathanDrew & Garden System have a candid conversation about relationships when one partner has dissociative identity disorder. Gianu System & Jonathan help provide hope through their personal stories as they share how they overcame challenges navigating their successful long-term relationship.Jenna (@gianusystem) and Jonathan (@splendid_supporter) were married for over fifteen years before they knew that Jenna wasn't just Jenna. She was part of a system of alters sharing one body. As the system made itself known, Jonathan took a proactive role in learning about the disorder and how best to support them in healing. His acceptance and insight...2024-11-191h 31A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderMultiples Squared: DID Couples An Intimate Interview with LS & Melanie ScarboroTrue to this season's theme, Drew & Garden System have an intimate conversation with another couple of multiples, LS & Melanie Scarboro, about relationships and dissociative identity disorder. Both LS and Melanie live with DID and they share personal stories of how they navigate the daily challenges that having DID brings to maintaining an intimate relationship as well as all the amazingness that it brings to their healing journeys.If you enjoy this episode please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We would love to hear what you enjoyed the most. You can visit our website...2024-11-051h 29A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderMultiples in Love: Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew & Garden System, a couple both living with dissociative identity disorder, share personal, intimate stories about their relationship including the many benefits and the unique challenges that arise when two multiples are in a relationship with each other. They also cover important tools, such as system mapping, emotional regulation & co-regulation, to help improve awareness of self beliefs that can get in the way of establishing a healthy, secure attachment.If you enjoy this episode please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We would love to hear what you enjoyed the most. You can visit...2024-10-2242 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderAttachment, Relationships, DID, Oh My!Drew & Garden System, a married couple who both have Dissociative Identity Disorder, welcome listeners to Season 3 which focuses on relationships and DID. Many people with Dissociative Identity Disorder were unable to form a secure attachment to a caregiver when they were a child, often due to trauma, neglect or abuse. Drew & Garden System, share personal examples of attachment wounds, and the four different attachment styles: secure, anxious, avoidant and disorganized. They also talk about how these attachment styles have personally affected their relationship with each other. They share how one can change and heal an insecure attachment, and give...2024-10-0841 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderShame, Denial, & Accepting All of We with Dissociative Identity DisorderIn this season 2 finale, Drew & Garden System share personal stories of experiencing shame, denial of being a multiple, and coming to acceptance of having dissociative identity disorder. Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community called Hearts Multiplied, for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed...2024-09-0333 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderSwitching, Co-consciousness, & Coming Together with Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew & Garden System share personal stories of how they brought all of their selves together to aid in the ability to switch on purpose and access all of the strengths and skills that each self holds. They talk about co-consciousness and ways that they practiced this skill amongst their selves.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community called Hearts Multiplied, for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus...2024-08-2738 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderResolving Internal Conflicts & Discovering Strengths Within a Dissociative SystemDrew & Garden System share personal stories of how they resolved internal conflicts, using a concept called trust by proxy, how they determined what was best for the whole system, how to identify and use the strengths of each self within the system, and some of the ways to keep up with all the daily little things when you live with Dissociative Identity Disorder.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community called Hearts Multiplied, for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and...2024-08-2035 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderYou Lied to Me About God: An Interview with Dr. Jamie+ MarichDrew & Garden System have an important conversation with Dr. Jamie+ Marich about her upcoming memoir, You Lied to Me About God. You can pre-order a copy now anywhere books are sold! They discuss the impact of religious trauma and spiritual abuse and how it can contribute to dissociation. They each share personal stories about their journeys of coming out as people with dissociative systems and being part of the LGBTQIA+ community. Also discussed is the impact of purity culture and sexual abuse. Please take care of your selves while listening!Dr. Jamie Marich (she/they...2024-08-061h 03A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderBuilding Bonds & Creating Trust Between Selves in Dissociative SystemsDrew & Garden System, a couple living with Dissociative Identity Disorder, share personal stories of how they helped all of their selves develop trust and compassion for each other. Building bonds between all selves helps bring about internal cooperation and internal peace. They also dive into more detail about their fictive selves and how those developed within their systems. This includes the formation of roles that the selves took on to ensure safety and functionality, and how those roles evolved over time, such as system leadership. NOTE: They also have carefully and mindfully included specific personal examples of how this...2024-07-3044 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderWhat You Really Need to Know About Eating Disorders and Dissociative Identities: An Interview with Annie Goldsmith, RD, LDNDrew & Garden System get real with Annie Goldsmith, sharing personal stories and uncovering the root causes of eating disorder behaviors and how they might show up in those living with dissociative identity disorder.Annie Goldsmith, RD, LDN holds an undergraduate degree from the University of Rochester in Brain and Cognitive Sciences and attended Winthrop University for her graduate coursework in human nutrition. Her educational and professional trajectory has always been guided by a strong curiosity about the ways our biology and psychology interact to inform our human experience. Annie worked in neuroscience research labs at New York...2024-07-231h 43A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderApplying IFS with Dissociative Identities: An Interview with Ocean, a Certified IFS Licensed TherapistDrew & Garden System have a lively discussion with Ocean about the use of Internal Family Systems, particularly with Dissociative Identity Disorder. Come learn all about the special considerations clinicians need to keep in mind and implement when they choose to use IFS as an intervention with their DID clients.Ocean is a highly educated and Certified Internal Family Systems (IFS) licensed therapist, having completed all three levels of IFS training. With over thirty years of experience in the mental health field, she began her career in a psychiatric trauma and inpatient unit. Ocean specializes in working with...2024-07-161h 14A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderIntersections of Neurodivergence: DID, Autism, & ADHD, an Interview with Katie Keech, MFTDrew & Garden System interview Katie Keech, MFT on the intersections of neurodivergence with DID, autism, and ADHD.Katie Keech, MFT, whose pronouns are They/Them, has over twenty years of professional experience in both community mental health and private practice. They have managed emerging adult community mental health programs and forensic programs.In the late 1990’s they were diagnosed with DDNOS then later DID. After much clinical and personal work, they identify as part of a plural system. In private practice they currently specialize in severe dissociative disorders, plurality and complex PTSD as well as au...2024-07-091h 28A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderShhh! Are You Listening to All of Yous? Enhancing Internal Communication Through Listening with Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew & Garden System talk about listening (ironic we know!) instead of just trying to talk to parts. Remember that it’s not just “talking” you’re listening for, because not all parts communicate with words or by talking. Sometimes communication is thoughts we notice or pictures we see internally. Being quiet can feel uncomfortable because one often becomes aware of memories and feelings that parts were keeping tucked away. Validating and accepting parts’ feelings and letting your selves express emotions is discussed. Also discussed is parts that still may be stuck in trauma time. We give several personal examples of how to...2024-07-0241 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderPlaying with Sand Tray Therapy When You Have DID: An Interview with Dr. Elisa Niles ThorneDrew & Garden System have a playful conversation about the benefits of sand tray therapy for those living with dissociative disorders with Dr. Elisa Niles Thorne (Dr, E). Topics include how sand tray can enhance internal communication between dissociative selves, how it can help nonverbal selves communicate, and how it can be used to process complex experiences. Whether you are a therapist or a client living with a dissociative disorder, you can learn so much from Dr. E's knowledge about the sand tray.Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list.Thank you to our...2024-06-2549 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderThe Healing Power of Dance & Movement - an interview with Alicia Leigh HannDrew & Garden System welcome Alicia Leigh Hann to discuss the healing power of dance & movement when one is a multiple!Alicia is a dance educator, performer, and choreographer based out of Columbus Ohio. She fell in love with dance because of its endless possibilities for creative physical expression. Movement has been an integral part of her personal recovery from a trauma induced eating disorder. Alicia has taught dance technique and facilitated movement experiences in therapeutic, classroom and community settings, as well as performed and set work nationally. She aims to foster an appreciation of dance as...2024-06-1841 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderIs That WE in There? Early Signs of Internal Communication within Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew & Garden System kick off Season 2 by sharing all the first signs of internal communication that happened within their systems. Listen to their comical, personal stories of how their selves made themselves known. This episode includes topics of suicidal ideation, self-harm, and eating disorders.Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list and to find out all about our private, paid community called Hearts Multiplied for people with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and therapists treating DID!We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness...2024-06-1133 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderFrom Toxicity to Authenticity with Dissociative Identity DisorderIn this legendary season one finale episode, Drew & Garden System discuss boundaries with friends, family, and within the therapeutic relationship. They talk about how they created a chosen community of friends and family and what is like to unmask through disclosure, including the thought processes around deciding if and when to disclose a diagnosis of Dissociative Identity Disorder.References:Drew & Garden System discussed the use of therapeutic touch in therapy with clients that have a history of sexual trauma and a diagnosis of Dissociative Identity Disorder. Here is an article discussed: https://w...2024-05-0742 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderEven More Multiple Cool Ways to Heal with Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew & Garden System share their experiences with various healing modalities for the trauma that led to dissociative identity disorder, including: music & music therapy, drumming, sound healing, yoga, meditation & visualization, EFT Tapping, anger wall, and the quantum energy wellness bed.Articles on Sound & Music:https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_music_bonds_us_togetherhttps://www.soundtravels.co.uk/a-Sound_Therapy_and_the_Vagus_Nerve-3617.aspxhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/music-synchronizes-the-brains-of-performers-and-their-audience/https://www.themusiciansbrain.com/making-music-together-syncs-brains/Website for Quantum...2024-04-3037 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderHealing Trauma through Art with Dissociative Identity Disorder: An Interview with Megs from Brushstrokes & ImaginationArt is one of the many healing modalities used for trauma processing. Megs from Brushstrokes & Imagination helps us to understand how having DID influences her art and creative processes. Megs is an incredible self-taught artist with minimal formal training. Artworks was one of their earliest escapes. They have continued to cultivate and express themselves since childhood. They are inspired by nature, and the bold dash of color. They were also very influenced by emotion and the unseen challenges of their mental health.They began by studying their own childhood photos. While looking at the photographs, they are...2024-04-2332 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderMultiple Cool Ways to Heal with Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew and Garden System share a multitude of research-based and some out-of-the-box healing interventions that they have used in their trauma recovery. Topics include CBT, grounding, handling self-harm urges, writing, play therapy, sand tray therapy, equine therapy, and EMDR.Send us a textFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com...2024-04-1641 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderThe Stigma of Dissociative Identity Disorder in Movies with Dylan & Holly Crumpler: Petals of a RoseDrew & Garden System have a chat with Dylan & Holly Crumpler about the portrayal of Dissociative Identity Disorder in Hollywood films. Dylan & Holly discuss the diagnostic journey, how the film Petals of a Rose came to be, their upcoming projects to help reduce stigma, and their hopes for the future.Holly and Dylan Crumpler are a mother-son team of passionate activists working to reduce the stigma associated with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). Given that DID has historically been depicted in an inaccurate, sensationalized, and violent way in film and television, Dylan created his senior thesis film, Petals of...2024-04-091h 00A Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderEveryday Challenges with Dissociative Identity DisorderDrew and Garden System enthrall you with funny stories from grocery shopping while discussing the challenges of managing money as a multiple, and they talk about the positive side of dissociation when visiting the dentist. They also reflect on disclosures made to doctors, friends, and employers. They also share important things to know about medical trauma. References: https://www.peersupportformultiples.com/services and https://www.dylancrumpler.com/petals-of-a-roseSend us a textFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok:...2024-04-0240 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderAll Things Attachment & Relationships With Dissociative Identity DisorderManaging friendships and relationships can be complicated due to attachment wounds when you have Dissociative Identity Disorder. Drew and Garden System reflect on their own attachments with friends, family, and romantic partners throughout the years. They also discuss the importance of the therapeutic relationship and how community has helped in their healing journey. Reference: www.aninfinitemind.org.Send us a textFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A...2024-03-2641 minA Couple of Multiples: The Reality of Living with Dissociative Identity DisorderTalking to Your Selves When You Have Dissociative Identity DisorderWhen you have dissociative identity disorder and experience yourself as multiple people all sharing one body and one life, it becomes necessary to be able to talk to all of the people inside of you. Figuring out all who is in there is helpful when making decisions ranging from what to wear and what to eat, to more complex compromises such as who you want your romantic partner to be. Learn not only how to talk to everyone, but also how to listen.Send us a textFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_t...2024-03-1940 min