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Colour-FullFreedom and the Law with Lwando XasoIn this powerful and timely episode, Sena and Stacy sit down with renowned constitutional lawyer and founder of Including Society, Lwando Xaso, for a deep, clear-eyed exploration of the systems that have shaped — and continue to shape — South Africa.Timed to fall in line with South Africa’s Freedom Day, this conversation reflects on the significance of democracy, constitutionalism, and unfinished reconciliation. While we often talk about racial systems and systemic racism, this episode zooms in specifically on the legal architecture that allowed racial segregation to thrive — and how its legacy lingers today through massive inequality, where white So...2025-04-2747 minColour-FullHowzit - With Amahle JaxaIf you’re chronically online, then you’ve probably come across the woman with the signature greeting: “Howzit guys…” and a rundown of what’s going on in the country (and the world) in a way that’s actually understandable.In this episode, Sena and Stacy sit down with Amahle-Imvelo Jaxa, the rising TikTok current affairs creator, commentator, and all-around cultural force. We unpack her journey from growing up in the Eastern Cape to starting up the events giant Until Until, and her unique knack for turning complicated political moments into accessible, humorous, and insightful cont...2025-04-1658 minColour-FullThe Politics of BeautyIn this episode, Tšhegofatšo Ndabane and Sinothile Kubu join Sena and Stacy for a candid talk on the politics of beauty and how it shapes the experiences of Black women. Tšhegofatšo shares her research on how young Black women perceive themselves, the deep influence of racism, and how beauty standards continue to be shaped by colonial narratives. Sinothile opens up about her personal journey toward embracing authenticity, the challenges of unlearning internalised biases, and how she navigates the pressures of motherhood while resisting the impulse to police her daughter’s appearance.Together, they d...2025-04-0244 minColour-FullBad African with Celine TshikaIn this episode, Stacy and Sena have one of the most chaotically hilarious interviews with the one and only Céline Tshika, interrogating what it truly means to be a Bad African. In between self-deprecatingly poking fun at themselves for the things they're good at being bad at, they unpacked the messy, layered, and oh-so-nuanced reality of Blackness and Africanness. From growing up in SA in a Congolese household to navigating microaggressions in the arts, Céline takes us through the complexities of identity, heritage, and pushing back against respectability politics. She gets into the colonia...2025-03-1959 minColour-FullLesego Tlhabi (aka Coconut Kelz) in ParisIn this episode of Colour-Full, Sena and Stacy sit down with Lesego Tlhabi, the brilliant mind behind Coconut Kelz, for a conversation that felt like a catch-up among besties. We laugh the whole way through while unpacking race, privilege, dating, fashion, and what the future looks like for Lesego beyond satire.We spoke about her lived experiences and how they shaped the creation of Coconut Kelz, highlighting how the personal is always political. We chat about everything from navigating microaggressions in South Africa and Europe to the realities of interracial friendships and relationships.Lesego also delv...2025-03-0551 minColour-FullLove is in the air with Wandile and Jessica MolebatsiIt’s the month of love, and in this episode, Sena and Stacy sit down with the Molebatsis. Jessica, a celebrated South African fashion designer, and Wandile, a renowned actor and producer, join us for a candid conversation about love, identity, and life in the public eye as an interracial couple.They share their journey of connection and acceptance, including the deeply personal way Jessica first met Wandile’s family—when he was recovering from a life-altering accident. As an interracial couple in a country still healing from its divided past, they reflect on South Africa’s painful...2025-02-201h 11Colour-FullBeyond the Headlines with Dan CorderIn this episode of Colour-Full, Stacy and Sena are joined in studio by South Africa's very own beanie aficianado, Dan Corder. Known for his bold voice in South African media and his TikTok videos, Dan takes us on a journey beyond the headlines to unpack the role of media in shaping conversations that matter.
We dive deep into the role of media in addressing systemic inequalities, how he balances knowing when to engage in critical dialogues and when to step back and the importance of understanding South Africa's complex history. Dan also reflects on his university days, hi...2025-01-3057 min
Colour-FullReflectionsWe wrap up our first season of Colour-Full with a look back at the year that was, reflecting on all the highs and lows. Sena and Stacy respond to some of the questions and feedback received from listeners and social media followers. They explain the meaning behind the podcast's name, the intentional use of humor in addressing a serious topic, and the challenges they face in maintaining the platform. They also tackle criticism, the importance of audience engagement, and highlight impactful episodes that resonated with listeners. The conversation emphasises the need for ongoing dialogue about race and inclusion, while...2024-11-2736 min
Colour-FullThe Language AdvantageIn this episode, Stacy and Sena chat about the complexities of language, identity, and privilege in South Africa. They’re joined by Tsepang Khoboko and Qhawe Bula, two of the co-founders of TAQA app, a digital library with the mission of promoting, preserving and celebrating African cultures and languages through digital media. The App has a library of illustrated children’s audiobooks in all 11 official South African spoken languages.
Together they discuss personal experiences with language, the impact of colonialism and apartheid on African languages, and the importance of preserving these languages through initiatives like...2024-10-1636 min
Colour-FullOur Heritage. Our CultureIn celebration of Heritage Day in South Africa, Stacy and Sena sit down with Thando Hopa, a formidable advocate of diversity, international model, contributor to the United Nations policy on Albinism and one of the BBC's Top 100 Inspirational and Influential Women.
Together, they explore the importance of National Heritage Day, and why the significance of this day should not be forgotten or diluted. They unpack the complexities of cultural appropriation versus appreciation, the economic benefits of heritage, and the importance of storytelling in preserving cultural identity. Thando shares her personal experiences and emphasizes the need for intentional...2024-09-2541 min
Colour-FullWhat is white privilege?Today, Stacy and Sena are chatting about white privilege with Graham Codrington, renowned futurist, leadership expert and ally. Graeme explains that white privilege is the absence of obstacles and barriers that white people don't have to overcome, allowing them to navigate the world more easily.
They explore examples of white privilege, such as assumptions of competence and trustworthiness, and how white people are able to choose when to engage with racism or not. They unpack this further by discussing the defensive and apathetic responses that white people often have when confronted with the topic. Graeme goes on...2024-08-2839 min
Colour-FullPurposeful activism with Jason GoliathWe’re thrilled to welcome the legendary Jason Goliath to this episode of Colour-Full! Stacy and Sena sit down with the renowned comedian and entertainer to delve into the intersection of comedy, culture, and the complexities of race and privilege in South Africa.
Jason introduces us to the concept of the "Happiness Economy," where he uses the power of comedy to drive meaningful messaging and ignite conversations around happiness and critical societal topics. The discussion touches on the role of understanding and respecting different cultures in building a more inclusive South Africa. Jason emphasises tha...2024-08-1446 min
Colour-FullWhat is racism?In this episode, we're getting back to basics by defining what racism is. Based on the feedback we've received from listeners we realised there was a need to unpack the definition in more detail, especially in light of the myth of reverse racism.
Stacy and Sena are joined by Bwanika Lwanga, a pan-Africanist activist and leader. Together they discuss the definition of racism and the structural, systemic, and power dynamics that facilitate racism. They explore the concept of reverse racism and why it does not exist. They also discuss the psychological impact of racism...2024-07-3131 min
Colour-FullLaughing against racismIn this episode, Stacy and Sena sit down with Oarabile Mashigo, better known as mashnotpotatoes, a comedian, satirical journalist, and popular TikTok content creator. They talk about his personal journey - from his days as a student, his beginnings in comedy, and his recent milestone as the first correspondent on the Dan Corder Show on eNCA. They discuss how comedy, humour, and social media serve as powerful tools for challenging systemic racism in South Africa.
Mashnotpotatoes talks about how he uses his platform to engage in meaningful dialogue, debunking the misconception that young South Africans are apolitical...2024-07-1136 min
Colour-FullWorkplace Assimilation: What now?Following their episode four discussion on workplace assimilation with the Buhle Dlamini, Sena and Stacy delve deeper into this important topic with Dharshni Padayachee - a giant within the DEI space in South Africa.
The conversation explores DEI efforts within local organisations, and the challenges faced by marginalised groups. Dharshni provides insights and practical advice for creating inclusive workplaces.
In this episode we discuss:
How workplace assimilation leads to challenges in bringing a person’s authentic self to work.
How DEI efforts go beyond demographic representation and require a focus on cre...2024-06-1234 min
Colour-FullThe stories we tell our childrenSena and Stacy sit down with Refiloe Moahloli, the best-selling author of the critically acclaimed children's books, How Many Ways Can You Say Hello? and We Are One. With her diverse - and more importantly inclusive - books as proof points, they discuss the importance of having representation in books, movies and toys.
Refiloe talks about what inspired her to write her first book, How Many Ways Can You Say Hello?, her own experiences growing up in a predominantly white school and how that impacted her identity, the progress in representation she’s seen since starting her...2024-05-2933 min
Colour-FullDiversity is being invited to the party. Inclusion is being asked to danceIn this episode Sena and Stacy challenge and consider forward thinking solutions to assimilation into white workplaces. They're joined by Buhle Dlamini, an award winning entrepreneur, author of 6 books, and international speaker who has consulted with businesses on the benefits of diversity with cultural intelligence for over 18 years.
They discuss how workplace culture has eurocentrism at its foundation and how black people have to embody and embrace “white culture” within the workplace not only as a means of self-preservation but also for career advancement.
Buhle describes a racist attack on his family, explains why the hone...2024-05-0835 min
Colour-FullHonour Identity: Say My Name (Say My Name)In this episode, Stacy and Sena are in conversation with Gcotyelwa Jimlongo about the significance of names. From personal anecdotes of mispronunciation to unpacking the influence of colonial history behind this common issue, they talk about the subtle yet insidious racial undertones embedded in misnaming and mispronunciation.
They explore the harmful effects of the erasure of identity linked to this normalised practice and shed light on the importance of acknowledging and honouring cultural heritage. Together, they discuss strategies for moving forward in a manner that respects and celebrates the significance of African ethnic names and their meanings.2024-04-2426 min
Colour-FullQuestioning hair and beautyThis episode was inspired by Stacy’s daughter, Faith’s critique of her natural hair. Join Mmakgabo Dlomo, CEO of Intombi Hair Care, and Sena Zungu, a young woman with a passion for identity discourse, as they peel back the layers of black women's relationships with their hair.
Mmakgabo shares her journey to embracing her natural hair, highlighting the prevalent feelings of shame in black women's hair stories. Sena reflects on her upbringing with 4c hair, delving into societal pressures and imposed Eurocentric beauty ideals that led to insecurities about her hair. Together, they celebrate the beauty of b...2024-03-1927 min
Colour-FullWhat is this umlungu snake smile?In this episode we investigate a curious behaviour of white women when they walk past a black person they don’t know. We’ve named it the “umlungu snake smile”. You know what we’re talking about right?… that kind of straight-lined lip, half smile thing.
What is this thing that white women do and why do they do it? How does it make black people feel? And what would be a better way to handle this moment in future? After getting some initial feedback from black and white people, Stacy sat down with her friend Kuhle Belu to unpack...2024-03-1922 min
Colour-FullWhy would I listen to a white woman talk about race?In this first episode, Stacy sits down with her colleague and friend, Sena Zungu, to discuss what motivated her to start this podcast. Sena doesn't hold back - asking Stacy pointed questions about her journey toward racial awareness as a white woman living in South Africa. Together, they explore Stacy's observations of race relations, her hopes and fears in starting these conversations, and the pivotal moments that led her to this point. Join us as we engage with uncomfortable truths and seek to understand the complexities of race, privilege, and perspective. 2024-03-1529 min