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The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 18: On-the-Job Training, Mission-driven Leadership, and AI with Alex CollisonCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of SkillBit, and co-host Phoebe DeVito as they connect with Alex Collison, Director of Information Security, Surface Area Management at Cargill, to discuss leading across vulnerability management, threat intelligence, and offensive security. Alex shares how she empowers her teams with autonomy and clear outcomes, and why leaning into discomfort is critical for growth. She also offers...
2026-04-1429 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 17: Creating Psychological Safety and Building a Team Culture Around CuriosityCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of SkillBit (formerly MetaCTF), and co-host Phoebe DeVito as they connect with Jose Ramos, Head of Offensive Security at Uber, to discuss transitioning from hands-on technical roles into leadership. Jose shares his approach for mentoring talent, understanding burnouts, and knowing when to hire. He also shares his perspective on how to balance build vs. buy decisions...
2026-03-3137 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 16: Introducing SkillBitJoin co-host Phoebe DeVito as she turns the microphone on fellow co-host Thomas Rogers to discuss MetaCTF's transition to SkillBit. Thomas shares the origins of MetaCTF, the philosophy behind hands-on CTF-based learning, and how that foundation evolved into a broader platform for cybersecurity skill development that's better captured with the name, SkillBit. They also explore the vision behind SkillBit’s bite-sized training model, the role of AI in guiding skill development, and how organizations can better measure and grow cybersecurity talent.
2026-03-1719 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 15: Building Curious, High-Performance Cyber TeamsCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of SkillBit (formerly MetaCTF), and co-host Phoebe DeVito as they speak with Joe McCallister, Senior Manager of Cybersecurity at The Trade Desk, about building and leading modern cybersecurity teams. Joe shares his unconventional path from retail and sales into cybersecurity leadership and how those early experiences shaped his approach to hiring, mentoring, and developing talent. The...
2026-03-0339 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 14: Exploring the Cyber Skills Gap and Taking ActionCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of SkillBit (formerly MetaCTF), and co-host Phoebe DeVito as they connect with Kevin Woods, Director of Learning and Development at GuidePoint Security. In this episode, Kevin shares his perspective on bridging the cyber skills gap by building scalable training programs and creating structured yet flexible learning pathways. Kevin discusses the importance of being disciplined and proactive...
2026-02-1737 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 13: Staying Technical, AI in Security, and Deciding When to Build vs. BuyCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, and co-host Phoebe DeVito as they connect with Antoinette Stevens, Principal Security Engineer at Ramp, to discuss growing detection and response teams, transitioning into people leadership while staying hands-on, and hiring for humility and curiosity. Antoinette also shares how she approaches build vs. buy decisions, and why mastering the fundamentals matters before layering in...
2026-02-0330 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 12: Interview Rubrics, AI in hiring, and Cyber Talent Series 12: Interview Rubrics, AI in hiring, and Moving into LeadershipCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, and co-host Phoebe DeVito as they chat with cybersecurity industry veteran, Rob "mubix" Fuller. Rob shares the importance of establishing interview rubrics and tips on transitioning into a leadership role as someone who also loves being "hands-on-keyboard". Their conversation also explores mentorship, community involvement, and why curiosity and humility remain essential at every stage...
2026-01-2025 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 11: Hack, Build, RepeatCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, and co-host Phoebe DeVito as they connect with Mike Takahashi, Director of Security Engineering at BetterHelp and AI Red Teamer. On this episode, they discuss hiring for real-world skills, building teams grounded in curiosity, and developing talent through autonomy and trust. He shares insights on AI security and the risks and opportunities of agent-based...
2026-01-0627 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 10: Building a Swiss Army Knife Cyber Team in the Age of AICybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, and Chitra Dharmarajan, VP of Security and Privacy Engineering at Okta, as they discuss building balanced, collaborative, and adaptable security teams. Chitra shares her journey going from developer to security executive, the importance of soft skills in technical roles, and why diverse skill sets are key to scaling security programs. She also explores how...
2025-12-0932 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 9: Certifications, CTFs, and Building Real-World SkillsCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, co-host Phoebe DeVito, and guest Chris Haller, Principal Security Consultant at Omada Technologies, as they discuss how hands-on learning builds stronger cybersecurity professionals. Chris shares lessons from his time in the Navy and as a coach for the U.S. Cyber Team, exploring how CTFs develop problem-solving, communication, and confidence in technical environments. He...
2025-11-2532 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 8: Building Trust, Training Talent, and Embracing ChangeCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, and Adrian Guevara, CISO and Head of IT for TELUS Digital Solutions, as they discuss how to build trust and alignment during times of change. Adrian shares his journey from individual contributor to CISO and the lessons he learned about people development through mentorship. He also offers his perspective on leading adaptable, high-performing teams...
2025-11-1131 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 7: Leadership, Learning, and Building with EmpathyCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF and co-host Phoebe DeVito as they connect with Emily Long, Founder and CEO of Edera, to explore how to build curious, connected, and high-performing teams. Emily shares her journey from people operations to the C-suite in cybersecurity, and challenges the notion of what it means to be “non-technical.” She also offers her framework for cult...
2025-10-2841 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 6: Security Leadership, Champions Culture, and Career GrowthCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, co-host Phoebe DeVito, and guest Dustin Lehr, Application Security Advocate at Security Journey, Co-Founder of Katilyst and AppSec Consultant, as they discuss career growth to leadership in cyber. From going deep early in your career to building effective security champion programs, Dustin shares lessons on security culture change, what AI means for big and...
2025-10-1443 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 5: Identity, Deepfakes, and Securing the Hiring PipelineCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, co-host Phoebe DeVito, and guests Justin Marciano and Paul Vann, Co-Founders of Validia, as they discuss the rise of deepfake-enabled hiring fraud and shortcomings of background checks. They dive deeper into the strong need for appropriate tooling to enable HR in deepfake detection, and why identity verification needs to be a continuous practice in...
2025-09-3029 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 4: Managing Maritime Security - Building Skills Programs that LastCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Co-hosts Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, and Phoebe DeVito are joined by Rear Admiral John Mauger to discuss the unique stakes of maritime cybersecurity, the rise of ransomware at sea, and what AI means for the next generation of cyber talent. Tune in to hear more about the role of leadership in supporting team dynamics, the importance of owning your...
2025-09-1539 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 3: Building and Leading Red TeamsCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals. Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, co-host Phoebe DeVito, and guest Nick Berrie, Managing Director of Offensive Security Operations at Assura, as they discuss career development in offensive security, the true value of certifications, and why leaders have a duty to “hold the ladder down” for the next generation of cyber talent.
2025-08-2940 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 2: Tools, AI, and the Future of Cyber Skills DevelopmentCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals.Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, co-host Phoebe DeVito, and guest Brandon Baxter, Senior Lab Architect at Wiz, as they discuss the role of tools in building a career in cybersecurity. Brandon shares his experience going from practitioner to the vendor-side, and his predictions on how AI will impact security talent going forward.
2025-08-1928 min
The Cyber Talent SeriesCyber Talent Series 1: Skill Development for Modern TeamsCybersecurity talent management is nuanced. Traditional best practices around hiring, onboarding and professional development may not translate effectively into the security domain. The best people in cybersecurity are particularly adept at assessing, measuring, and managing security professionals. Join Thomas Rogers, Co-Founder of MetaCTF, and co-host Phoebe DeVito, as they discuss current trends in cybersecurity talent management, why “skill development” vs. “training” is an important distinction, and best practices around employee engagement.
2025-08-0427 min