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Intentional ChangePeople, Process, and Vision: Unpacking EOS With Michelle OwensHost Joshua McNary chat with Michelle Owens, certified EOS implementer, business coach, facilitator, and founding partner of Slingshot25. Michelle brings decades of hands-on leadership experience, a passion for development, and a reputation for asking tough questions with care. She helps entrepreneurial teams get unstuck and achieve real traction using the EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) framework.Joshua and Michelle dive into what it takes to lead with clarity and why structure can fuel creativity instead of stifling it. You'll hear practical strategies for aligning your team, building sustainable accountability, and tackling the people challenges that every growing business...
2025-10-1544 min
Shotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S5 Ep 8: Do leaders need to be liked?Do leaders need to be liked in order to be good leaders?This is the question Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock dive into in the Shotcast.
2025-08-0605 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S5 Ep7: What's it like to work for you?What's it like to work for your company?This is the question that Slingshot25's Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland ask in this Shotcast episode. Ready for an espresso shot for your brain? Check it out!Learn more about Slingshot25 and how we're helping companies across the country at Slingshot25.com.
2025-08-0606 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S5 Ep5: Deep ThinkingDo leaders get enough time for deep thinking during the day?Probably not. In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership and change experts, Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland, talk about why think time is so important for leaders to intentionally schedule - and why it will change how you lead. Want to learn how you can work with Slingshot25? Contact us at Slingshot25.com/contact.#slingshot25 #leadership #SeriousWorkCanBeFun
2025-06-1806 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S5 Ep6: Think Like an OwnerHave you ever been told to think or act as an owner of the company?In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership and change experts, Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock, discuss why this directive is meant to provide empowerment and accountability, but there's something that actually gets in the way. Want to learn more about driving accountability in your organization? Visit our website to learn about our services or contact us at Slingshot25.com/contact.#slingshot25 #leadership #SeriousWorkCanBeFun
2025-06-1808 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S5 Ep4: Leadership is a thingDid you know that leadership is actually a thing?What do we mean by that? In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership experts Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock talk about why it's time to realize that leadership isn’t something you stumble into—it’s intentional, it’s learned, and it matters.Want to build your leadership skills? Visit our website to learn about our products and services at Slingshot25.com.#Slingshot25#Leadership#SeriousWorkCanBeFun
2025-02-1909 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S5 Ep3: The Empathy DebateIs empathy the essential 21st-century leadership skill, or have we taken it too far?
In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership experts and certified coaches Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland discuss the core definition of empathy, the dangers of coddling, and the fading skill of empathy in a tech-obsessed world.
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2025-01-0908 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S5 Ep2: Counterintuitive StrengthIs your instinct to jump in and solve the problem for others?
In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership and change experts Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock explore the counterintuitive nature of true leadership strength. It's not about fixing problems or shutting down complaints—real strength lies in listening, acknowledging, and creating space for emotions, even when they feel uncomfortable.
They explore why resisting the urge to judge or solve immediately can lead to deeper connections and better outcomes and how seemingly "weak" actions like empathy, validation, and even apologizing are signs of true le...
2025-01-0906 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S5 Ep1: The Leadership Training Play-Doh FactoryAre you tired of the leadership training Play-Doh factory?
In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership experts Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland explore why traditional leadership training often falls short and how companies can better support their leaders before, during, and after the classroom experience.
It's not about cramming more knowledge in — it’s about creating an environment that helps leaders apply what they learn and truly grow - avoiding the "Play-Doh factory" trap!
Contact us to learn how Slingshot25 can help your organization create a training plan that works for the long term.
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2025-01-0807 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S4 Ep 6: Accountability vs. ResponsibilityAre you fostering accountability in your organization?
In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership experts Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland explore the difference between responsibility and true accountability. They discuss how leaders often hinder accountability by stepping in too much and suggest ways to foster a culture where people stay invested and take true ownership of their work.
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2024-11-0407 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S4 Ep7: Third Option ClubAre you a card-carrying member of the "Third Option Club?"
In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, Leadership experts Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock introduce the "Third Option Club," where people get stuck in resentment rather than finding joy or moving on. Inspired by Cy Wakeman's quote, "Stay in joy or leave in peace," they discuss the courage it takes to release grievances and live true to one’s values.
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2024-11-0406 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S4 Ep5: (More) Better LeadersIn this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership experts Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock dive into what it takes to become a better leader in your world—starting right where you are.
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2024-09-1606 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S4 Ep4: Our Focus on LeadersIn this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership and change experts Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland break down how they're focusing on the key skills every leader needs.
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2024-09-1608 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S4 Ep3: Got Courage?In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership experts Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock talk about why 5 minutes of courage may be all you need to move people forward in your organization.
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2024-08-1207 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S4 Ep2: Sense and RespondIn this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership and change experts Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland talk about a simple leadership technique that is universal to every type of conversation.
Interested in bringing Slingshot25 to your organization for more on change management and leadership development? Send us a note at Slingshot25.com/contact for a free consultation.
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2024-08-1207 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S4 Ep1: Uncomplicating Leadership DevelopmentIn this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership, and change experts Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock the ways we tend to overcomplicate leadership training and how to make it so much easier.
Interested in bringing Slingshot25 to your organization for more on change management and leadership development? Send us a note at Slingshot25.com/contact for a free consultation.
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2024-08-1206 min
The Business Storytelling Podcast675: When someone is committed to misunderstanding youUgh. That's not the right kind of commitment companies are looking for, but how can change management bring it all back to actual forward progress?
Sarah Gorsh and Courtney Smock, partners at Slingshot25, are experts at change management and join me on Episode 675 of "The Business Storytelling Show" to discuss just that topic. Join us.
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2024-07-2423 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep12: Corporate Knows Best?In this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership and change experts Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland discuss tips for shaping your world when working in big complex organizations.
Interested in bringing Slingshot25 to your organization for more on change management and leadership development? Send us a note at Slingshot25.com/contact for a free consultation.
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2024-05-0206 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep11: The Power of CoachingHave you ever thought about getting a coach? If so, there are a few things you should consider before you decide.
In this Shotcast, Slingshot25's leadership coaches, Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland, share a few tips for choosing the coach that is right for you.
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2024-02-2805 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep10: Myth BustingHave you ever heard the phrase, "It's not personal, it's just business?"
In this episode of Shotcast, Slingshot25's leadership experts and coaches, Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland, bust open the myth that business is not personal.
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2024-02-2805 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep 9: Backward on BehaviorWhat comes before a behavior?
In this Shotcast, Slingshot25's leadership and change experts Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland talk about the relationship between behaviors and mindset and why so many have it backward.
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2024-02-2806 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep8: Playing DodgeballIn this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership and change experts Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland discuss why change management can feel like a big game of dodgeball - and what you can do about it!
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2024-01-3105 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep7: Coaching SurprisesIn this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, Leadership Experts and Coaches Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland discuss some interesting surprises about coaching.
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2024-01-3107 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep6: Change Capacity vs. Change SaturationIn this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, change and leadership experts Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland discuss the hidden secret about the concept of change saturation.
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2024-01-3105 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep 5: AI and LeadershipIn this episode of Slingshot25's Shotcast, leadership and change experts Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock discuss ways artificial intelligence (AI) affects leaders and how you can future-proof your leadership.
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2023-12-0706 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep4: Don't Delay DevelopmentAre you kicking your development down the curb?In this Shotcast, Slingshot25's leadership experts, Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland, discuss the tendency companies have to delay training and development for more "urgent" priorities - and why this practice is detrimental for all involved.Don't miss a Shotcast and sign up for our newsletter here:Slingshot25.com/sign-up#Slingshot25#Leadership#Development#SeriousWorkCanBeFun
2023-11-1408 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep3: CultureWhen was the last time you had a conversation about the culture in your workplace? Numerous studies have explored the relationship between culture and company performance. While the exact impact of culture can vary by organization and industry, the reality is that a positive culture is a valuable asset for any company. Listen to this Shotcast for more about why culture is a big deal.
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2023-11-0906 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep2: Thinking DifferentlySlingshot25's experts in leadership, change, and coaching, Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock, talk about how to train yourself to think differently about situations.
Don't think tactics here, think about how you experience any interaction with another human being and how you show up as a leader.
It's a game-changer.
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2023-10-0205 min
The DASH Mindset Podcast8. Be Curious About Others & Improve Your Relationships in an Effective WayBeing curious about other people sounds simple, but it’s not easy. We have a tendency to hear what we want to hear, overexplain & under listen, & as a result, we continue to misunderstand & be misunderstood.
Today I share some practical takeaways to better understand the people in your life & make your personal & professional relationships even better.
Start by asking yourself why you do what you do, THEN get curious about others. Investigate why they do what they do withOUT using the word “why”. Then listen. Truly listen.
Most misunderstandings are due to differences in str...
2023-09-1421 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S3 Ep1: Theory of ComplexityIn episode one, leadership and change experts Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock talk about Dave Snowden's Theory of Complexity and why it's so important to understand when leading people.
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2023-09-1106 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S2 Ep9: 360 FeedbackSlingshot25's leadership experts, Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock discuss 360 feedback surveys and the serious pitfalls of this beloved tool.Slingshot25.com#Slingshot25#Leadership#SeriousWorkCanBeFun
2023-06-2707 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S2 Ep8: Trust and RelationshipsWhat is the value of a trusting relationship to an organization?
What does it cost an organization when relationships change and trust has to be rebuilt or established from scratch?
In this Shotcast, Slingshot25's Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock talk about why trust and relationships in a company should be your most valued asset.
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2023-06-2707 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S2 Ep7: Aftermath of ChangeIs your organization dealing with the aftermath of poorly managed change? In this Shotcast episode, Slingshot25's leadership experts, Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland, discuss what the aftermath of change looks like in organizations, the symptoms and the only way to fix it.
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2023-05-0109 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S2 Ep6: Manager Impact on Mental HealthIn this Shotcast, Slingshot25's Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock discuss recent research that reveals a manager's outsized impact on a person's mental health.
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2023-04-1708 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S2 Ep5: Tough ConversationsSlingshot25's change and leadership experts, Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland, talk about tough conversations and the straight up overlap when it comes to change management and leadership.
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2023-03-2008 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S2 Ep4: The Big QuestionIn this episode, Slingshot25's change and leadership experts, Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland, talk about a big question - what has changed in leadership and what's ahead in the future.
2023-02-2708 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S2 Ep3: Communicating Business DecisionsIn this episode, Slingshot25's change experts Courtney Smock and Jackie Pelland discuss the basics of communicating business decisions when things are changing.
2023-02-1308 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S2 Episode 2: FeedbackGathering employee feedback in an organization is often done through anonymous company-wide surveys. In this episode, Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock talk about why feedback is important, but it's also important to be cautious of relying too heavily on anonymous feedback channels.
2023-01-0508 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast S1 Episode 1: Crap, I lost my job!Job loss can be a very emotionally-triggering life event. In this episode, Jackie Pelland and Courtney Smock talk about how to deal with the emotional stress and how to move forward.
2023-01-0510 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 14: CoachingTeaching leaders to coach and benefit an entire company.
2023-01-0104 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 13: Unrewarded WorkThe undervalued (and most important) work in the workplace.
2023-01-0109 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 12: The Future of Work Considerations (Part 2)Our conversations continues on the topic of the future of work considerations.
2023-01-0107 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 11: The Future of Work Considerations (Part 1)The Future of Work Considerations for any organization.
2023-01-0107 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 10: Workplace of the FutureWhat do we lose in the virtual workplace?
2023-01-0103 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 9: Bad is Stronger than GoodShould change management actually be called “loss” management?
2023-01-0103 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 8: Equity Theory and EngagementHow do “Equity Theory” and “Employee Engagement” factor in to “Quiet Quitting.”
2023-01-0106 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 7: Quiet QuittingEveryone seems to be talking about the phenomenon of quiet quitting. What do Jackie and Courtney have to say about the topic?
2023-01-0105 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 6: Preparing for ChangeIs your organization prepared for change?
2023-01-0102 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 5: Toxic CultureIs your culture toxic or just annoying? The difference matters.
2023-01-0102 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 4: It's the environment.The truth about most performance issues in the workplace.
2023-01-0103 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 3: You're just not that big a deal.A clever daily reminder to stop obsessing about yourself.
2023-01-0101 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 2: Who would follow you?Two ideas to help you answer that question…and why it’s important.
2023-01-0102 minShotcast - Slingshot25's bite-sized podcasts that feel like an espresso shot to your brain.Shotcast Ep 1: Mindset Over Skill SetLearn how your mindset can have a big impact on your work performance.
2023-01-0102 min
The Iowa Idea Podcast95. Jackie PellandThe Iowa Idea: Jackie Pelland
“You’re just not that big of a deal.”
In this episode of the Iowa Idea Podcast, I’m joined by Jackie Pelland. Jackie obsesses about leadership. She is a founding partner of the organizational design company, Slingshot25 where she designs and delivers leadership learning programs and provides executive leadership coaching. For 25 years before starting her own company, Jackie was an employee in big telecom and aerospace companies. This means she is no stranger to complicated corporate environments that are controlled by bureaucracy and office politics.
Jackie shares her journ...
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