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The Things We SayThe Things We SaySkyGuys: A Skyline Chili SagaThis is our biggest episode yet, by number of guests. About 3 times a year, this group of 7 guys pile into one minivan and travel 40 minutes to the nearest Skyline Chili establishment. The laughs never stop! It's time to let others in on the conversation.Stick around after the frivolity to hear why each of us, as fathers, have decided to raise our young families in the church.Rate the show, this episode, then join the conversation:Email: thethingswesay@mail.comfacebook.com/thethingswesaypodcastX and Instagram: @TTWSpodcast2025-04-071h 42The Things We SayThe Things We SayThings We Don't Believe In: Part 3In this episode, the guys finish off their list of things they don't believe in. If you care to disagree with opinions expressed in this episode, let us know! Also, if you happen to have something else that we can add to this scrap heap of ideas ... send them our way! facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram & X: @TTWSpodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com As always, please take the time to rate this episode and subscribe to the show. We have some exciting episodes coming up that you don't want to miss!2025-01-2857 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayThings We Don't Believe In: Part 2What do dinosaurs, overpopulation, kidnapping, AI, alpha wolves, and sleep spiders all have in common? Somehow they ended up on this episode. Join us for some quick-hitting, tongue-in-cheek rants about things we feel no need to believe in. Continue the conversation today: thethingswesay@mail.com facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram and X: @TTWSpodcast Rate or like this episode on this platform and don't forget to subscribe to the show so you don't miss the next episode!!2024-12-101h 00The Things We SayThe Things We SayThings We Don't Believe In: Part 1After some catching up and house cleaning from a brief hiatus, the guys start down a list of things we don't believe in. Topics in this episode include fossil fuels, recycling, the rapture, the diamond industry, the population crisis, and man-made climate change. There's a little something for everyone in this episode! Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast thethingswesay@mail.com X and Instagram: @TTWSpodcast Your job: Rate the show. Share the episode. Subscribe to the channel. We deeply appreciate you!2024-11-181h 13The Things We SayThe Things We SayDo We Make This Look Easy?Sometimes being on a platform obscures the view of the work and preparation it takes to serve well. This goes beyond the ministry context. We see it played out in sports, business, public speaking, etc. Nearly every time someone does something excellent, they make it look easy... but it's not. So you have a call from God on your life. What do you do next? Run up on the first stage you find? How do I move forward? The guys get real about their journey into ministry. We hope this episode serves you, no matter...2024-10-0356 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayAmerica: Season 248The guys discuss the chaos and confusion of American political 'silly season.' Stick around for an illustration involving fireworks and the moon. The political hope, intrigue, and upheaval is passing away quickly - there are eternal things that matter much more. But, it sure is fun to watch!! Talk back: @TTWSpodcast on X and Instagram thethingswesay@mail.com facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast2024-07-221h 02The Things We SayThe Things We SayFear Not: a fear tournament lightning roundFear is often used as a motivational tool to get you to vote, buy something, go somewhere, or stay home under the covers. We cannot be afraid of everything, so in this episode, the guys put everything people fear in 2024 into a tournament style bracket to figure out what should scare us most! We are not afraid - but we intend to be decisive! Let us know all the stuff we got wrong here: Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Insta and X: @ttwspodcast Rate this episode and...2024-06-271h 11The Things We SayThe Things We SayThat Guy Fawkes: A Collab with Silver Screen BiasesThis episode is a co-release with our friends from Silver Screen Biases, reviewing the 2005 hit movie: V for Vendetta. Over at SSB, Jeff and Nelson review movies from the IMDB Top 250 and look for the truth claims made within it. We truly enjoyed being on some previous episodes of theirs, if you'd like to check those out: Return of the Jedi : Sheldon and Nate Star Wars : Sheldon and Rylan Let us know what you think by rating this episode, rating the show, or message us...2024-05-132h 26The Things We SayThe Things We SaySheri Martin: Stories from the MiddleSheri Martin joins the show to discuss rebuilding from nothing, how writing can lead to healing, why Taylor is popular, and how to believe in people who are in process. Continue the conversation by email: thethingswesay@mail.com facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast X and Instagram: @TTWSpodcast Rate this episode and subscribe so you don't miss the next one!2024-05-071h 43The Things We SayThe Things We SayThings the Bible DOESN'T SayChristians have all kinds of phrases that don't come from Scripture. There's even more sayings and proverbs that sound biblical that culture often attributes to the church that aren't backed up by Scripture. This week the guys challenge some of these common phrase by holding them up and examining a few of them, one at time. If you think of a few more, please feel free to drop us a note below: We reference Episode 86 of the Naked Bible Podcast on the Head Covering of 1 Corinthians 11. Here's the link to that episode.  Continue the conversation by email: thethingswesay@mail.com F...2024-04-221h 07The Things We SayThe Things We SayEmily Fertig: Finding Your VoiceThe unstoppable Emily Fertig joins the podcast from Arizona! She shares her experiences starting a band, landing a record deal, leading worship, preaching, and parenting. We also get to hear her unfiltered opinion on the whole Taylor Swift phenomenon. Find Emily at: https://emilyirenefertig.com/ Leave this episode a review, then continue the conversation through... email: TheThingsWeSay@mail.com facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram and X: @TTWSpodcast2024-04-121h 51The Things We SayThe Things We SayBen Smith: Making Disciples and Surviving Youth GroupBen Smith joins the guys to talk about practical discipleship and ministry, no matter where you work. As a former youth pastor, we get his first impression of Nate, a few stories from the vault, and some good advice on following your calling. Let us know what you think here: Email: thethingswesay@mail.com facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram and X: @TTWSpodcast And don't forget to rate this episode!2024-03-221h 10The Things We SayThe Things We SayPaganism Revisited: Part 2 of Gnostic LieWe continue the discussion of paganism and gnosticism that was started last episode. Clarifications are made and new bunny trails explored. Let us know what you think of the episode by leaving a rating on this podcast platform or talk to us at: Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast X and Instagram: @TTWSpodcast Other podcasts referenced in the episode are: The Naked Bible Podcast (Dr. Michael Heiser), Haunted Cosmos, and Blurry Creatures.2024-02-0952 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayThe Gnostic LieThe guys discuss gnosticism after breifly being distracted by lemon seeds, Ben Franklin's cadaver collection, and Big Bird's Challenger disaster.  Let us know what you think!  Please rate the show and continue the conversation on Instagram and X: @ttwspodcast Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2024-01-281h 13The Things We SayThe Things We SaySticks & RocksA far-ranging episode including 40th birthdays, New Years celebrations, National Parks, and the differences between men and women.  Talk back to us on: X & Insta @TTWSpodcast Email thethingswesay@mail.com facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Don't forget to rate and subscribe!2024-01-011h 04The Things We SayThe Things We SayStar Wars with 13-year-old RylanLast time we talked with Rylan about Star Wars was four years ago! He was 9 and this show was in its infancy. If you missed the first one click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-with-9-yr-old-rylan-stauffer/id1299974029?i=1000466119937   Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram and X: @TTWSpodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2023-12-081h 08The Things We SayThe Things We SayChristian Anarchy?Brad and Nelson discuss anarchy and agorism from a Christian perspective. Along the way we also discuss dinosaurs, the atonement, pacifism, and paying taxes. This is a fun thought excercise on what you believe a Christian's role in government should be and how we respond to the role of government in society. Nelson joins from Silver Screen Biases Magdeburg Unicorn Join the conversation at thethingswesay@mail.com facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter and X: @TTWSpodcast Remember to subscribe and rate the show!2023-11-101h 52The Things We SayThe Things We SaySteph Mast: Embracing Grace on the JourneySteph Mast joins the show to tell her story. If you've wondered what the church experience looks like from the perspective of a single mother. If you have seen the faith of others but never felt like you had your own. Or, if you are navigating deconstruction through church hurt, Steph is here to offer hope and honesty about the journey. Embrace Grace - Wooster (Instagram link) Email us: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram and X: @TTWSpodcast2023-10-231h 13The Things We SayThe Things We SayOhio’s Issue 1After a quick aside about the temple mount, the rapture, and Israel, the guys discuss Ohio's November abortion referendum. This is not one to sit out - it's time to engage and be informed about this important vote! Even if you don't live in Ohio, this issue is coming to your state soon and this is an informative look at what to expect. Text of Issue 1 Greg Locke wrongly says that a new temple will bring on the return of Christ. 1:16 of this video clip. Email: thethingswesay@mail.com X and Instagram: @TTWSpodcast facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast2023-10-161h 06The Things We SayThe Things We SayRich Men, AI, and Rediscovering RealIn this one the guys discuss "Rich Men North of Richmond", the advent of AI, and whether or not the virtual world is ready to replace the real one. Oliver Anthony's song here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqSA-SY5Hro  Email us: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast X and Instagram: @TTWSpodcast2023-09-021h 01The Things We SayThe Things We SayRemember When Movies Were Good?Are new movies terrible, or do we just remember the good ones? Time to bring in our guests from Silver Screen Biases to get to the bottom of it! If you scroll through their catalog, you'll see that we were guests on their show several weeks ago. That episode is a great place to start for some context to this conversation. Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter & Instagram: @TTWSpodcast2023-07-181h 29The Things We SayThe Things We SayAsking our Wives: Are you Submissive?Ever thought about asking this question to your wife, but you were too scared to know the answer? In this episode, the guys tackle Col 3:18 and similar passages by asking both our wives the same question: "Are you submissive?" Buckle up!   Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter & Instagram: @TTWSpodcast2023-07-091h 11The Things We SayThe Things We SayIt’s Not More Spiritual If It’s RandomThis episode discusses the Christian tension between following liturgy and following the Spirit by going off script. Seeking to include fundamentalist and charismatic streams in the same family can be difficult - but it's necessary. Don't worry, there's plenty of other randomness in this grab bag! Enjoy... Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter @ Instagram: @TTWSpodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2023-07-041h 01The Things We SayThe Things We SayBigfoot and Easy BucketsThe guys start talk about concerts, then Bigfoot, then ... well, you'll just have to listen to it.    The other podcast we reference: https://www.blurrycreatures.com/ Contact us: Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Twitter or Instagram: @TTWSpodcast2023-06-131h 22The Things We SayThe Things We SayWhat Do You Do For Work?The guys discuss work, occupation, and should it define who we are. The conversation kicks off with a recap of our time on Silver Screen Biases podcast talking about Return of the Jedi. Find their show here: https://silverscreenbiases.buzzsprout.com/ Or just click here for the episode on Apple Podcasts   Continue the conversation: Twitter or Instagram: @TTWSpodcast Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2023-06-0259 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayBaptism!After a short aside about math trivia and irresponsible budgets, this episode focuses on Christian baptism. Why do we do it? What happens to the person being baptised? Who should be baptised?  Join further discussion here: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter and Instagram: @ttwspodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Please take the time to leave a review of this episode or the show in general, it helps feed the algorithim!2023-05-201h 14The Things We SayThe Things We SayAnd... We’re Back!This is our sixth year producing this podcast! We took a short hiatus and are re-introducing our show for the 2023 season. Look for a longer episode to be uploaded very soon this week.  Also, in this episode we announce our guest appearances on Silver Screen Biases. You can check out Sheldon's guest appearance discussing New Hope and both of the guys discussing Return of the Jedi over on their podcast. Just click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/silver-screen-biases/id1643626169  Make sure to leave a review here and on their show if you love it!2023-05-1631 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayRevelation, (De)construction, & SuperAbundanceThe topics pulled out of the hat in this episode include the book of Revelation, deconstructing faith, and the overpopulation myth.  Leave a review on the app or let us know what you think ... Facbook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram & Twitter: @TTWSpodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2022-10-101h 05The Things We SayThe Things We Say15 Seconds or 77 minutesIn this episode the guys dive into a new conspiracy theory and compare recent armed responses to mass gun violence.  Join the conversation: Email: thethingswesay@mail.com facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram and Twitter: @TTWSpodcast2022-08-0853 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayChick Tracts & Bible ScholarshipThe guys discuss Chick Tracts and a podcast that has helped them think through the Bible in a new way.  Link to the Naked Bible Podcast episode 86 that is referenced. Chick Publications website Chick Tract wikipedia page   Email us: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ttwspodcast/  Twitter: @TTWSpodcast2022-07-021h 08The Things We SayThe Things We SayMostly AustraliaThe guys discuss Australia, guns, and ways that the United States is different. Hope you enjoy it! Join the conversation or throw a topic our way at: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram and Twitter: @TTWSPodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2022-06-041h 02The Things We SayThe Things We SayReturning the TitheThis episode opens with a story of a bizarre kidnapping, but the bulk of the episode is focused on explaining the Christian practice of tithing, what it has meant to each of us, and common objections to the practice and implementation of it.  Continue the conversation through: Email thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter and Instagram: @ttwspodcast2022-04-111h 12The Things We SayThe Things We SayOvercoming Pain and Becoming Real - with Kim FriendYou will absolutely love this lively conversation with Kim Friend! She shares her story of overcoming a broken home when she was young, early difficulty connecting with church, subsequent personal struggles and adversity - and not only surviving these things but thriving. She gets real about what it takes to look yourself in the mirror, own your past, and what it takes to build a new foundation. This podcast is a celebration of (and with) one of our favorite people... hope you enjoy getting to know Kim :) Email: thethingswesay@mail.com FB: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter & Instagram: @TTWSpodcast2022-03-291h 14The Things We SayThe Things We SayEnd Times: with Scott JohnsonScott Johnson joins the show to discuss End Times, Revelation, and the Rapture. This is becomes a life-giving discussion and not sensationalized in the way you might expect. Give it a listen, then let us know what you think by giving the episode a rating or connecting with us at: Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Insta and Twitter: @TTWSpodcast Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast2022-01-201h 32The Things We SayThe Things We SayMovies that Moved Us & Ending Roe vs. WadeThe guys discuss movies that impacted them and also get into the RvW discussion. Join the discussion or let us know what you think: Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram & Twitter: @ttwspodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2021-12-091h 00The Things We SayThe Things We SayRandomness InterruptedTopics discussed include: the passing of Norm Macdonald, Covid tests, experiencing Covid, Anabaptists, and all-male Taliban government... among others. This episode gets interrupted in the middle and we pick up recording the following week.  Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Instagram and Twitter: @TTWSpodcast2021-11-151h 08The Things We SayThe Things We SaySo, You Were in a Cult?Nelson returns to the show to talk about cults. How to know you're in one, how to get out, and what others can do for those caught up in them. There's lots of personal opinions and experiences shared. These conversations can be difficult to navigate, but we hope you'll join us as we talk it out together.    Email: thethingswesay@mail.com facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter & Instagram: @TTWSpodcast2021-04-071h 27The Things We SayThe Things We SayHow We Fight... hint: it's not with our fists, unless it's rock/paper/scissors  This episode is more of a therapy session than an instructional guide. In it the guys discuss everyday verbal disagreements. How they get in them, get out of them, and navigate their way through. Maybe we can all learn together!   Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter & Instagram: @TTWSpodcast2021-03-251h 04The Things We SayThe Things We SayWhat Ever Happened To...Some of the biggest stories of our lifetime have been almost forgotten or coverage has just been dropped. We check in on a bunch of them, doing marginal research. You're going to need these links to keep up! Ventrac vs California fires: https://youtu.be/mm1Rij7dvWI  FBI and Nancy's laptop: https://tinyurl.com/jpeknck6  Biden arrested in the Senate chamber: https://youtu.be/mGfte3vyTbU?t=80 Joseph Kony: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kony  Balloon Boy MSNBC full coverage: https://youtu.be/-IuU1JEXayU  Balloon Boy "for the show" clip: https://youtu.be/wI6UONWCq7A  Balloon Boy 1...2021-03-0459 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayShredding through the BibleWe tried to read/listen through the entire Bible in 30 days. That's a fine New Year's resolution but why would anyone even attempt this? What does it take and do you even get anything out of it? Here's some links... The Shred explained in .pdf form https://tinyurl.com/fwc9wh2r The 30-day Shred YouVersion Plan https://tinyurl.com/ym2bv9tr    Email us: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram & Twitter: @TTWSpodcast2021-02-1852 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayConspiracy Facts?You've heard of conspiracy theories - but what if some of those tales end up being true? This episode touches on a few of the times the US government carried out medical experiments or covered up medical blunders. The guys also bring back an old favorite: "Things we don't understand."  Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter & Instagram: @TTWSpodcast Rate this episode on Apple Podcast app Site: podbean.com/thethingswesay2021-01-1349 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayBeing a Good Girl Dad: with 13 yr-old AlainaAlaina joins the show to give a first-hand account of going through middle school in 2020, advocate for raising allowances, and helping dads of girls get it right.   Email: thethingswesay@mail.com FB: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter and Insta: @TTWSpodcast2021-01-061h 01The Things We SayThe Things We SayThings We Wish People KnewThis episode covers American Civics 101, driving lessons, and discussions on phrases involving pudding. Give us your feedback or thing you wish people knew at: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Insta and Twitter: @TTWSpodcast2020-12-091h 03The Things We SayThe Things We SayBible Oddities: Floating Axeheads and Left-Handed SwordsmenContinuing our series on strange or little known Bible stories. Submit yours or keep the conversation going at: Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Instagram & Twitter: @TTWSpodcast2020-11-0951 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayBible Oddities: Jael and the Mighty MenThe guys begin a series on Bible stories that may be forgotten or overlooked. To continue the conversation click to: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast @TTWSpodcast on Instagram or Twitter Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2020-10-2736 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayJohn Wesley, Nolan Ryan, & Indiana JonesNelson joins Nate and Sheldon to discuss Calvinism vs. Arminianism, the Wesleyan Quadrilateral, and how to find unity in the most divisive Christian debates. But before things get too serious, we have to settle whether Indiana Jones or Star Wars is superior, and stray into thorny issues surrounding professional sports. Show Notes: Image of the Wesleyan Quadrilateral: https://tinyurl.com/y58vdzhc    Contact: Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram and Twitter: @TTWSpodcast2020-09-141h 44The Things We SayThe Things We SayHoliness vs ReligionWhat does it take to be right with God? Does it mean just giving assent to certain set of ideas? Maybe do this list of things but don't do this other list of things? How can a person be holy or become holy? Sheldon and Nate take a shot at these questions and a lot more. Hope you enjoy the conversation!2020-08-1957 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayMath, Masks, & Mannings - Dennis Stauffer as guestDennis Stauffer (Sheldon's brother) joins the guys to discuss math, COVID numbers, and covering your face in public as mandated by the state. Recorded 7/26/20202020-07-291h 16The Things We SayThe Things We SayGender Roles and Complementarianism in the Church and HomeKayla Ward and Jessica Stauffer are guests on TTWS's 100th episode!    SHOW NOTES AND LINKS: Mennonite/Catholic dialogue report: https://tinyurl.com/y8gcazr5 Old Man of the Mountain: https://tinyurl.com/grp466n Complementarianism holds that "God has created men and women equal in their essential dignity and human personhood, but different and complementary in function with male headship in the home and in the Church." https://tinyurl.com/p44s9le Eph 5:25 https://tinyurl.com/y9vj36ry The One Life Dream that Makes a Girl Blush https://tinyurl.com/yd396p8w 50 Crucial Questions: An Overview of Ce...2020-07-061h 43The Things We SayThe Things We SayWho We Are BecomingThe guys discuss licking cats, who they want to become, Nate forgets OKGO, both try their best to be real, and push back against the idea that music can be reduced to math. Music videos that we reference: OKGO Zero Gravity: https://youtu.be/LWGJA9i18Co OKGO Rube Goldberg: https://youtu.be/qybUFnY7Y8w Coldplay The Scientist: https://youtu.be/RB-RcX5DS5A Walk Off the Earth, Red Hands:https://youtu.be/1bt-FHaFVH8 Walk Off the Earth, Red Hands Unedited: https://youtu.be/-OtOnZeQ9IM   Show features Sheldon Stauffer and Nate Ward II Show email: thethingswesay@mail.com Twit...2020-06-231h 03The Things We SayThe Things We SayDad MomentsThe guys talk about fatherhood, dad jokes, wasabi, and what it's like to grab a gun check your home in the middle of the night. Also, we would love your ideas for our 100th episode!! Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Instagram and Twitter at: TTWSpodcast2020-06-0957 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SaySelf-CensoringIs it wise for a verbal processor to have a podcast? Do you ever want to actually know your pastor's political views? What is the balance between over-sharing and being real? In this episode, the guys discuss where the podcast began and where it's headed. Thanks for joining us in the middle of the ride!2020-05-291h 07The Things We SayThe Things We SayThe Moon's True Purpose, Pooping in Space, and Kid's Take on COVIDNate volunteers to go to space (but not like Mad Mike Hughes). We discover the true purpose of the moon and break down basic bodily functions in zero gravity. We also collected responses from our kids about their COVID experience. Recorded 5/10/2020. No show notes for this episode - we had better things to do.2020-05-261h 09The Things We SayThe Things We SayLong Intros, Dude!The guys take a journey through 1996 highlighting news stories, CCM music of the era, and talk about hair. If you skip the first 25 minutes you'll miss the COVID-19 rant. Like we said, long intros... On to the show notes: 00:41 – Sincerely grateful to be back 01:15 – Nate hurts my feelings 01:27 – Admitting to our recent mistake 02:38 – But... 03:20 – Sheldon is a Twitter glutton 04:00 – Did You Know? - Mandatory Vaccinations – Not a Nate Ward Anecdote https://tinyurl.com/y4urjymz 07:37 – Mask? https://tinyurl.com/y7rexy48 10:25 – Some other things Sheldon won’t be Doing 12:30 – Sheldon yells at “Elites” 21:00 – Nate knows things about Italy 22:20 – How the guys have kept busy during qua...2020-04-241h 19The Things We SayThe Things We SayA Word Salad that Attempts to Avoid the Plague: Nelson Hicks returns as a guestNelson rejoins us to record an episode about anything except coronavirus. We tried to be funny. We tried to admit where we've been wrong. We probably struck out on three pitches - but we went down swinging! Instead, we just talked about Anecdotes and Music and Memory and Market Forces and Toilet Papers and Presidents and Socialism and Sex and Feminism. On to the show notes: 00:41 – Intro 00:55 – “Quiet on the set... Sheldon” 02:34 – Nate explains the show 03:13 – Nelson does not endorse the show 04:13 – Did you know – 13 13:13 13th https://tinyurl.com/tgjumes http://aaronmahnke.com/ 06:09 – Nelson’s “Good Friend” 06:47 – Did you know – Pennsylvania Dutch 07:04 – W...2020-03-181h 25The Things We SayThe Things We SayWhy Be Reasonable When You Can PanicIn this episode we survive the coronavirus pandemic, give you a reason to wear your socks with sandals, explore the Christian response to plagues, and discuss the merits of bidets. We'll be your island of rationality in a sea of diarrhea. On to the show notes!! ---> 00:41 – Fresh as daisies and pre-game stretched  01:28 – Pause and think  02:32 – Did You Know #1 – Restaurants with Children  06:07 – Did You Know #2 – Socks and Sandals  07:16 – 90's Fashion  10:00 – Bieber Fever  https://tinyurl.com/vrcbhws  11:44 – What we’re here for!  https://tinyurl.com/wuafnrl  12:28 – SARS–CoV–19  https://tinyurl.com/u4qccax  14:00 – Al-Quaeda  15:40 – Bushisms  16:40 – Cheney  18:07 – Clinton Body Count  https://tinyurl.com/s4vjff6  19:22 – COVID-19 in the US  20:20 –...2020-03-101h 02The Things We SayThe Things We SaySpheres of InfluenceWhere do you think you have the most impact? Where is your life best invested? Who looks up to you? These are all questions of influence. This episode touches on the challenges of correctly estimating our influence in 2020's social media culture. Let's get to those show notes: 00:42 – Our Titles are Wrong  03:33 – Dingy Dungeony Basement  04:38 – Legal ≠ Moral  05:48 – Did You Know? Unextraordinary Dutch Chops  08:11 – Desk Calendars  09:38 – More than you ever cared to know  10:14 – Straight to Nazi Germany  10:49 – It's a slippery slope...  12:00 – Help, I’m being oppressed!  13:24 – Cost/Benefit analysis of Social Media  17:55 – Wrong Numbers  21:10 – Why we’re here  21:45 – What is “Influence”  23:27 – Spheres of Influence  25:08 – Overestimating Influence  ...2020-02-271h 05The Things We SayThe Things We SayStar Wars: with 9 yr-old Rylan StaufferSheldon's son Rylan joins the show to wrap up our dive into Star Wars lore. His encyclopedic knowledge and boundless enthusiasm for Lucas' space mythology is contagious! Show notes and time stamps below: 00:51 – Did You Know: All-Star Games Hot as Curry - https://tinyurl.com/smqtoa3 04:40 – Nate's Hot Take on the NBA 06:09 – Longevity of Pro-Level Football A few screws loose https://tinyurl.com/u2udtoe 07:32 – Rylan's Dating Profile 08:53 – Star Wars Episode IX: The Last Star Wars Thing 09:08 – The guys review The Mandalorian 10:36 – Sheldon walks through a room while a Star War plays 11:23 – Rylan loved Stars Wars before he ever saw one 14:00 – Ryla...2020-02-191h 11The Things We SayThe Things We SayAn Amazing Salad of NothingThis episode covers everything from unrealistic body types, to being a tiny bit famous, to thumb rings, to what it's like when people call you "pastor." Also, Sheldon gives his completely rational reaction to a sportsball game. Enjoy our Amazing Salad of Nothing... show notes below: 00:41 – Intro 01:35 – Good to be back (again) 01:55 – Did you know? 15th Century Wedding Rings 03:00 – Nate and guitars 05:24 – Sheldon in Miami 08:55 – Epstein 09:56 – Shootin' from the hip 10:37 – Superb Owl Half-time Shows 13:03 – 40 yr old women, and how good they look https://tinyurl.com/wkbunh9  16:00 – Nate’s hot take on actors 16:15 – Sheldon reviews “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” 17:32 – Nate and Sheldon discuss “The Mo...2020-02-121h 09The Things We SayThe Things We SayWomen In MinistryPeople and opinions can change. It's one of the reasons we talk things out. This episode, we discuss new perspectives and the power of learning from each other. Well, after we get side-tracked by ice, flat earth, a Kobe tribute, and some Superbowl LIV fandom.  Show notes below contain spoilers: 00:41 – Intro 01:10 – Did you know #1 – Earth's Ice - https://tinyurl.com/vvb2jgw 03:40 – Flat Earth - https://tinyurl.com/w6btewz 04:00 – Where we’ve been 05:22 – Superbowl LIV 09:20 – Kobe Bryant 13:13 – Grieving 18:24 – What We’re Here For 18:41 – Opinions Change 20:45 – Complementarianism - https://tinyurl.com/ookv2r9 22:50 – Sheldon and Jess’ Opinions Evolve 27:52 – Scriptural References 1 Timothy 2:11-15 - https://tinyurl...2020-01-301h 11The Things We SayThe Things We SayFastingIt's a New Year and a new season for The Things We Say! Can you believe it's season 3 already?! This time we're discussing Christian Fasting or giving up random things to focus on God. Show notes below: 00:41 – Intro 02:05 – Nate’s Week of Hell 03:52 – Did You Know - Francis Bellamy - https://tinyurl.com/q4v3ndl 05:39 – Saluting the Flag - https://tinyurl.com/apnqjaz 08:41 – Good to be back 09:56 – 21 Days of Prayer and Fasting 10:58 – Nate’s Relationship with Twitter 11:45 – Attention, Appetite, Attitude 12:30 – Sheldon’s Relationship with Twitter 13:20 – Nate's Relationship with Social Media 14:08 – 30/40 Hr Famine 17:50 – How People View Fasting 23:20 – Fasting Needs 23:58 – Corporate Fast 25:11 – What it means to us n...2020-01-071h 00The Things We SayThe Things We SayDTR, The Shire, and IHOP: with Kayla Ward00:41 – Intro  01:50 – Kayla Sets the Record Straight Pt 1 – The Trash Can Thing  04:52 – Did You Know? Prince  06:25 – Kayla Sets the Record Straight Pt 2 – Our Social Media Could Be Better  07:50 – On Podcast Intros  10:13 – Kayla Ward: Social Media Expert  11:25 – Did You Know? Amazon Affiliate Links  13:30 – Kayla’s First Impression of Sheldon  14:55 – How Sheldon Gets in an Argument  17:13 – As Told by Kayla  19:42 – Kayla and Sheldon are Loud  20:20 – Kayla's First Impression of Nate  23:39 – Kayla’s Bathroom Stories  25:17 – Kayla's Schooling  29:18 – Kayla Ward: Force of Nature  30:54 – Kayla's Leadership Chops  32:00 – What is a Young Adult?  33:40 – Millennials  37:04 – Dating in ‘The Shire’  41:06 – The Phone Call  44:20 – “DTR”  49:23 – Nate Talks to Kayla’s Parents  51:25 – Vines  51:54 – Back to ‘The Shire’  53:10 – Is IHOP a Cult?  63:25 – He...2019-12-101h 22The Things We SayThe Things We SayHappy Thanksgiving!00:41 – Intro   01:12 – Sports Rant #1: Sheldon is a Lifelong Niners Fan and the “Browns” are not “The Browns”  03:00 – Christmas Music and Nate’s beef with Pentatonix  06:00 – Sheldon's evolving feelings on the Christmas season  07:05 – Sheldon is a contrarian  07:30 – Sports Rant #2: Myles Garett  09:49 – Sheldon’s Volume  11:45 – You don’t have to struggle with sin  12:49 – Did you know? “Chip on your shoulder”  15:42 – Sheldon and Nate’s Thanksgiving 2019  19:25 – Family Traditions  21:37 – Sheldon’s Special Thanksgiving Experience... wait no... Sports Rant #3: Colin Kaepernick  28:22 – Sports Rant #4: Cheering for Laundry  30:05 – Sports Rant #5: Sportsmanship  32:58 – Sheldon’s Special Thanksgiving Experience... for real this time  35:25 – Puritan Communalism and Personal Responsibility  37:55 – Fasting and Thanksgiving  43:00 – Harvest Festival  43:35 – Samoset, Squanto, and Sacagawea  47:42 – Oblivious Purita...2019-12-031h 07The Things We SayThe Things We SaySheldon in JapanAfter a week overseas, Sheldon recounts his first trip to Japan! Show notes below: 00:40–Shouting in Sunday School 02:11–Weekly Reflection 03:59–Did You Know? George Harrison attacked in his home. 05:27–Kaepernick –Kaepernick 90 Second Interview- shorturl.at/gST26 –Kaepernick Superbowl Interview- shorturl.at/afkH3 14:00–Did You Know? Christmas in Japan 17:43–Sheldon in Japan 18:25–Sheldon doesn’t understand Japanese 20:35–Cultural differences Sheldon was warned about 20:43–The Business Card Thing- shorturl.at/vxKV0 22:27–Do not shake hands 23:14–Beautiful things about Japan 23:28–Signage in Japan 23:56–Grass and weed management 24:46–14hr Flight 28:13–First Impressions 30:05–Train Station 31:27–Sheldon's thoughts on rules, orderliness, and obedience 32:08–Eating Noodles in Japan 34:35–The best thing Sheldon ate 35...2019-11-221h 07The Things We SayThe Things We SayPies, Painting Nails, and Bad Habits (Facebook Live Event #3)Our audience takes control of the programming in this fast-paced, random episode. The live-stream is available in two parts on our Facebook page. See timestamps and show notes below: 00:42 – Intro 01:27 – Nate on multi-track recording 01:52 – Did you know? #1 “There will be no impeachment” theory, and explanation 04:35 – Did you know? #2 “No one was called ‘Guy’ before November 5th, 1605” - Verified 07:06 – Facebook Live ‘Rules’ and Sheldon’s ‘Running Question’ 08:14 – Sheldon: Life without Twitter 09:30 – Kanye West: Jesus Is King, Sunday Service, and Being Born Again 16:58 – On Show Notes (sorry Kayla) 17:22 – Wardrobe Choices 17:58 – Speeding Tickets 19:10 – Live Video stops and Nate and Sheldon struggle to resolve minor tech issues 21:00 – Uncle Karl’s Foot...2019-11-081h 28The Things We SayThe Things We SayNew BeginningsWe take a look at what it's like to start something new. Seasons change all the time. Starting well is important, but do we pursue something new just because it's new. Is there more value in stability or possibility? NOTE: We will be recording LIVE on Facebook at 8:30PM Eastern, October 27th! To join, go to facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Sunday evening. We have released a lot of content this year and would love to hear your questions, comments, or even field topics you haven't heard us discuss.2019-10-231h 08The Things We SayThe Things We SayName that Tune: 90s Youth Group JamsA "name that tune" head-to-head battle that goes back 20 years! While we test our memories, we also tell some stories and recount the role these niche Christian bands played in our journey to adulthood. The playlist we used: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DWZnA0FshBt4S Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Twitter and Insta: @TTWSpodcast facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast2019-10-091h 13The Things We SayThe Things We SayThere's Treasure EverywhereWe say we believe in a second chance for everyone. What happens when celebrities turn their life around? Is the church ready for revival to start outside the walls of an established denomination? This conversation centers on the good things going on in celebrity culture.2019-09-301h 02The Things We SayThe Things We SayNelson Hicks: Becoming an AmericanNelson rejoins the show to talk about becoming a U.S. citizen. He also helps us put the wraps on the Fear Tournament, which was started and continued on several back episodes. A good place to start the Fear Tournament is here: https://soundcloud.com/user-782248540/fear-tournament-lightning-round Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Twitter and Insta: @TTWSpodcast Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Books referenced by Nelson: Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman Dumbing Us Down by John Taylor Gatto2019-09-251h 17The Things We SayThe Things We SayThings NOT to do in ChurchWhat some of you do in church is downright hilarious! What we have done or said (sometimes by accident), might top that! It's time to recount some of the awkward and funny things we have seen happen in a church service. Enjoy! Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Twitter and Insta: @TTWSpodcast Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast2019-09-171h 04The Things We SayThe Things We SayJessica Stauffer: Overcoming Misunderstanding and DisappointmentJessica (Sheldon's better half) joins us to talk about her journey through some painful circumstances, her emotional & inner healing, and what it means to follow the call of God on her life. Our article for "Did you know?": https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/02/magnetic-north-update-navigation-maps/ Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Insta and Twitter: @TTWSpodcast Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast2019-09-091h 25The Things We SayThe Things We SayDeconstructing Faith, Purity Culture, and Church TaboosMike Myers joins the show to talk about growing up in church culture and our different paths to making faith our own. How do you know what you've always been taught and what is really true? How far would you go to find out? In this episode we cover some controversial topics. The important thing to do is to continue to talk openly and honestly about these things in the church, not take offense and shut down dialogue. If you disagree with us, here's a couple ways to reach us for further comment before you draw your own conclusions about...2019-09-051h 12The Things We SayThe Things We SayQuestions for Christians: Part 2We continue with part 2 of our discussion on objections to the Christian faith. We talk through 5. The offensive claim that Jesus is the only way to God, 6. A loving God would never torture people in Hell, 7. Church history is littered with oppression and violence, and 8. I still have doubts, I can't be a Christian. Opening YouTube clip: https://youtu.be/1BB6wj6RyKo Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Twitter and Insta: @TTWSpodcast Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast2019-08-191h 04The Things We SayThe Things We SayQuestions for Christians: Part 1We take on the tough questions that Christians face. If we have faith, it will be challenged. This episode tackles four of the top emotional reasons people cite when they challenge belief in God or walk away from the Christian faith. This is intended to start discussion, not give pat answers. We're just saying what we think - or how we might naturally respond. These are some things we say...2019-08-121h 02The Things We SayThe Things We SayThe Boys are Back! (with Buddy and Jacob)Your favorite high schoolers are back! Buddy and Jacob follow up on their last episode by taking a citizenship test, discussing their favorite pastimes, and talking about how male friendships are formed. We also give some of the TTWS origin story! Link to Indescribable: The Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/indescribable-the-podcast/id1237474618?mt=2 Show email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter and Insta: @TTWSpodcast2019-08-051h 32The Things We SayThe Things We SayNate's 12 Rules for LifePart 2 of our "12 Rules" episodes, where Nate shares his rules for life. Once again, these are just random things we have found to be true. Use them to make your own list! It's a fun exercise. If you want to continue the conversation, or tell us we're wrong... Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com Twitter and Insta: @TTWSpodcast2019-07-301h 09The Things We SayThe Things We SayFear Tournament: Sweet 16We continue with our tournament that puts society's biggest fears head to head, March Madness style. It's just for fun, and serves as an opportunity to show that most of these are greatly exaggerated. Enjoy listening along, unless you take it seriously, then you'll probably be offended and grumpy. Enjoy! Instagram shows the updated bracket: @TTWSpodcast Will post it to Twitter as well: @TTWSpodcast Facebook will have it too: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Email the show: thethingswesay@mail.com2019-07-1656 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SaySheldon's 12 Rules for LifeIf you had to come up with 12 rules for life, what would they be? Sheldon takes the first swing, offering his 12 axioms. These are just the things we have found to be true in our 35 years of life. Nate's will be submitted on a later episode.2019-07-0856 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayMore of God: with Jared FlackThis episode begins with quite a few tangents and random entertainment. Some things will be profound (maybe), some things will be stupid. This is the follow-up to the earlier podcast where Jared joined us. Listen to that episode here: https://soundcloud.com/user-782248540/49-jared-flack Or just scroll back to sometime in January. Show email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Insta and Twitter: @TTWSpodcast Instagram has the men vs women rating chart we reference in passing, here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BzX216oArUz/2019-07-021h 56The Things We SayThe Things We SayGood GriefThis is not an easy thing to talk about. We have always tried to be as real as possible with our listeners and this episode is no exception. We talk about the issues in life for which, sometimes, there are no words. What happens when you lose someone you love unexpectedly. Show email: thethingswesay@mail.com Facebook: facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast Twitter and Insta: TTWSpodcast2019-06-251h 02The Things We SayThe Things We SayDeath, Ghosts, & Resurrection: with Ross from Singularity SaintsRoss Norris from Singularity Saints podcast joins the show to talk about how to get into podcasting, some thoughts on what happens when we die, and where medical advancement may be taking us. Check out his show here: https://singularitysaints.podbean.com/ Tell us what you think by email: thethingswesay@mail.com Comment on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast/ Follow us on Twitter or Insta: ttwspodcast You can find us on iTunes, Soundcloud, Stitcher, and Google Podcasts2019-06-181h 10The Things We SayThe Things We SayWhat Makes Nazarenes Different?Church of the Nazarene. What makes it different from evangelicals? Are they fundamentalist, charismatic, multicultural, or regional? What makes them unique? Since one of us was born and raised in this denomination and the other found it as an adult, we do our best to share what this gathering means to us.2019-06-111h 13The Things We SayThe Things We SayAll About SchoolRecounting some of our history with homeschool, private school, and public school (K-12). The benefits and challenges of each institution and some funny anecdotes are also included. Facebook: @thethingswesaypodcast Insta: @ttwspodcast Twitter: @ttwspodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2019-06-051h 10The Things We SayThe Things We SayImmigrationNelson Hicks returns as a guest to discuss an issue that becomes a hot-button every election cycle: Immigration. His experience as a Canadian, married to a Guatemalan, trying to get American citizenship, helps us get a more nuanced perspective. Bunny trails include: a statute of limitations for social media posts, camping, and pooping - so something for everyone!2019-05-301h 12The Things We SayThe Things We SayFT Lightning Round - Part 2The continuation of our Fear Tournament where we list all the things people fear and put them head to head, March Madness style. Listen as we unceremoniously eliminate half of them in this fast-paced episode. Article referenced in opening segment: https://www.wmur.com/article/missing-children-found-in-michigan/23679022 Species extinction article: https://humanprogress.org/article.php?p=19202019-05-211h 09The Things We SayThe Things We SayFear Tournament: Lightning Round!This episode is a fast-paced attempt to get through the first round of the Fear Tournament. This has been our opening segment for the last couple episodes, but it's taken on a life of its own. If you want to see what we're talking about, check out facebook.com/thethingswesaypodcast or Instagram: @ ttwspodcast Here's the bee article: https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/04/17/bee-apocalypse-was-never-real-heres-why-128512019-05-131h 08The Things We SayThe Things We SaySerial Killers, National Debt, and Easter WorshippersOpening segment continues the Fear Tournament, pitting National Debt against Serial Killers. Then we discuss tragedies and how they are reported, the Democratic primary, the elections of Senators, and... few other rants.2019-04-291h 07The Things We SayThe Things We SayDemystifying ChurchThis Easter you may be headed to church. Whether it's for the first time, you're returning after a long time away, or you have been going there your entire life - it may be difficult to know what to expect. Church can be weird. Church people can be odd. The traditions sometimes need translation. That's what this episode is about. Consider this a beginners guide to first time attenders. Also, since it's based mostly on our own experience be prepared for some sweeping generalizations.2019-04-151h 09The Things We SayThe Things We SayThe Gun DebateIt's time to talk about guns. You've certainly heard loud voices on both sides but is there a way to resolve this? Is compromise possible? Are there solutions that will work for rural America as well as urban population centers? But before we get there, let's kick off our new opening segment with something less controversial... vaccines.2019-04-091h 10The Things We SayThe Things We SayMurphy, Music, and MinecraftTwo teens (Buddy & Jacob) join us to talk about growing up in the world of social media, how they view their culture, how their peers connect, and some of the challenges they face.2019-03-261h 27The Things We SayThe Things We SayWhen Christians DisagreeThe discussion begins with "Hells Bells" and Christian opposition to rock and roll. Somehow we end up discussing church movements and Christians opposing one another.2019-03-221h 06The Things We SayThe Things We SaySatanic Panic vs D&D [Part 2 of 2]The continuation of our conversation with Nelson Hicks where he shines light on Dungeons and Dragons. We begin with some history of role playing games and discover how D&D players, the game, and it's culture were impacted by the Satanic Panic of the 80s and 90s.2019-03-121h 24The Things We SayThe Things We SaySatanic Panic! [Part 1 of 2]While not explicit, some subject matter is intended for mature audiences. Listener and parental discretion advised. Friend of the show Nelson Hicks joins TTWS as we try to unpack the Satanic panic of the 80s and 90s. We do our best to uncover the history, personalities, and circumstances surrounding this event while also telling how it impacted each of us personally. The following episode will focus on Dungeons & Dragons specifically. PART 1 OF 2.2019-03-041h 19The Things We SayThe Things We SayPeace on Earth"Peace on earth, goodwill to men" These words of the angel have echoed across the years, found their way into songs, prayers, and writings of every kind. What does it mean? This is NOT just another Christmas podcast!2018-12-241h 05The Things We SayThe Things We SayVoting and ElectionsIn this episode we discuss voting and elections. Sheldon fixes the primary system. Nate reveals how he votes on taxes. And, we introduce a new segment. Contact: thethingswesay@mail.com, @TTWSpodcast on Twitter and Insta, @thethingswesaypodcast on Facebook.2018-09-041h 02The Things We SayThe Things We SayFootball, Rebuttals, and Our TeamsNate is back this week to offer his rebuttal to the previous episode which was done without him. We discuss football, our fandom, our teams and we go off on a few tangents. Enjoy! Facebook: @thethingswesaypodcast Twitter: @TTWSpodcast Email: thethingswesay@mail.com2018-08-291h 04The Things We SayThe Things We SayHalf of Us, Half an EpisodeIt's an awkward episode. Nate is out, so Sheldon takes the opportunity to talk behind his back. We're praying the team is back together soon! Tune in for a shorter podcast that's completely rant-based2018-08-2219 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayThis Will Get Us In Trouble [PART I]We finally air some of our political opinions that are not popular... or maybe just don't fit in the box of mainstream American evangelical politics. Either way, feel free to listen along, disagree, think, come up with counter arguments, and express your weird opinion too! It's a 2-part podcast, so more to follow next week.2018-05-2341 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayStar WarsSheldon has never seen Star Wars! Nate is an avid fan, to say the least. Listen in as they discuss the galaxy, film, and why any of it matters. Show email: thethingswesay@mail.com2017-10-2439 minThe Things We SayThe Things We SayIntroductions and DisclaimerStart here! Sheldon and Nate introduce "The Things We Say." They discuss free speech, what the title means, express a desire to be real, and add a disclaimer for future episodes. Show email: thethingswesay@mail.com2017-10-2422 min