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Point of Relation with Thomas HueblThe Great DetoxWhat happens when we see our individual struggles reflected in humanity’s collective crises? How does our individual healing create collective healing?This week, Thomas shares why we need to unearth the trauma that’s deeply entrenched in our societies and cultures so that it can be processed, integrated, and transformed into growth. We may be familiar with this process in our own healing journey—now it’s time to do the work as a collective.Thomas explores a technique that he calls “systemic sensing,” a way of feeling through archaeological and ancestral layers to bring regula...2025-07-2333 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblThe Great DetoxWhat happens when we see our individual struggles reflected in humanity’s collective crises? How does our individual healing create collective healing? This week, Thomas shares why we need to unearth the trauma that’s deeply entrenched in our societies and cultures so that it can be processed, integrated, and transformed into growth. We may be familiar with this process in our own healing journey—now it’s time to do the work as a collective. Thomas explores a technique that he calls “systemic sensing,” a way of feeling through archaeological and ancestral layers to bring regula...2025-07-2230 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBONUS: The Mysticism of SpaceThomas explores the foundational spiritual building blocks of life, with a particular focus on the concept of space. More than just a void that we occupy physically, space is a key element of life that we co-create. And we need space—for reflection, digestion, integration, and nervous system regulation. Get a bigger picture perspective on your spiritual journey and learn essential tools for connecting to your inner wisdom, resilience, compassion, and intelligence. ✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/tqIMOvVEk3I Video episodes are typ...2025-06-1915 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblEmbodying the Light of the Soul“The person doesn't have a soul, the soul has a person.” This week, Thomas goes deep in a spiritual teaching that explores the essence of the soul—an energy field that enfolds our consciousness and our life and is fundamentally connected to the collective and the planet. Through embodied spiritual practice, we can become spacious enough to let in divine light, ground it in the physical world, and open ourselves to subtle capacities and deeper sensing. Using these practices, we also become more resilient to challenges, and can face uncertainty with creative energy instead of anxiety...2025-06-1028 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Roger Walsh | Attuning to Our Inner WisdomCan humanity’s ethical and spiritual maturity catch up to our technological progress? Or will this gap in development lead to catastrophe? To explore our collective path forward, Thomas sits down with Dr. Roger Walsh, a Professor of Psychiatry, Philosophy, and Anthropology, and the host of the Deep Transformation podcast. Their conversation mines the depths of our inner worlds, finding hope in the idea that kindness, generosity, and altruism are more inherent and natural to humans than selfishness, separateness, and over-consumption. Our civilization is at risk, but man-made crises can be unmade by deep collective le...2025-06-0352 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblKosha Joubert | Global Social WitnessingWhat if there was a practice that helped us collectively witness and digest world events without becoming overwhelmed, indifferent, or numb? What if this practice could lead to new levels of collective healing? Thomas sits down with Kosha Joubert to discuss this revolutionary practice, called Global Social Witnessing. Kosha is the CEO of the Pocket Project, a non-profit organization co-founded by Thomas that’s dedicated to growing a culture of trauma-informed care. Global Social Witnessing addresses our current lack of societal rituals for processing traumatic world events. It offers a way to move beyond individual ov...2025-05-2748 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBONUS: Connecting to the HeartIn this teaching, Thomas Hubl focuses on the heart as not just a physical organ but a central hub for emotional maturity, spiritual development, mind-body integration, and connection to universal intelligence. He offers a guided contemplative practice to lead you into the depth of your heart space so that you can listen deeper to your own truths, integrate mind and body, become a deeper listener for others, and better regulate your nervous system. Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/KJFL1IDFxvE Video epis...2025-05-2216 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblLama Rod Owens | Collective Liberation and Spiritual HealingCan we metabolize our pain to create an entry point into liberation? How can spirituality support us in this process? This week, Thomas sits down with Buddhist minister, author, and activist Lama Rod Owens to share visions for collective liberation, the importance of reconnecting with Indigenous worldviews, sacred ecology, and unseen worlds, and strategies to overcome hopelessness and despair as we work to dismantle harmful systems. They explore the intersection of individual and collective trauma, the connection between spiritual awakening and social justice, and the importance of meeting suffering and discomfort with kindness and presence...2025-05-2057 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. MaryCatherine McDonald | Finding Joy After PainTrauma makes it difficult to feel joy, but you CAN experience it again, even if you’re in the early stages of your healing journey. This week, Thomas sits down with trauma researcher, life coach, and the author of Unbroken and The Joy Reset, Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald, to redefine joy, examine how trauma steals it from us, and explore how we can learn to let it into our lives again. Dr. McDonald has identified six “thieves of joy”—coping mechanisms that helped us to survive trauma and hardship, but now make it difficult to relax, let go...2025-05-1357 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblResilient PresenceThomas explores a holistic, interdependent approach to well-being to help us navigate uncertainty, manage stress, and become a source of stability for ourselves and those around us. In times of global uncertainty, it’s essential that we come together—to pause, reflect, and reconnect. Thomas shares insights and practices to support us in cultivating the inner resilience needed to meet life’s challenges with greater presence, clarity, and care. Now more than ever, we need resilience to remain grounded in stressful moments. Thomas explores how we can strengthen our ability to heal, adapt, and support others...2025-05-0653 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDebbie Levin | Green Media and Personal EnvironmentalismThomas is joined by Debbie Levin, CEO of the Environmental Media Association, to discuss the role of media in shaping sustainability consciousness and how to effectively communicate about environmental issues. Debbie shares the importance of being gracious and non-judgmental when sharing knowledge on how to live a healthy, clean, and sustainable life. She explains how her organization has successfully leveraged celebrities’ platforms to spread awareness on crucial environmental issues and how the “Emma Green Seal” has influenced TV and movie productions to operate more sustainably. She and Thomas also explore the impact of the LA fires...2025-04-2257 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBONUS: Humanity's Healing OrchestraThomas explores the qualities of leadership and collaboration that are needed to heal collective trauma. He shares how each of us plays a unique role—like musicians in an orchestra—contributing our distinct talents to a larger symphony of healing and transformation. Thomas addresses the impact of fear-based systems rooted in hierarchical power and advocates for shifting toward creative, relational models of leadership. He stresses the importance of self-reflection, community, and attuning to the self-healing mechanism of life as pathways to building a collective healing movement. Watch the video version of the episode on YouTube: 2025-04-1715 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBayo Akomolafe | Bold Frontiers of Spiritual HealingThomas Hübl sits down with celebrated speaker, posthumanist thinker, poet, teacher, and author Bayo Akomolafe to explore the leading edges of spiritual thinking and human identity. Bayo is a deeply experimental thinker, informed by the African cosmologies of the Yoruba and Igbo traditions. He leads an exploration into a new paradigm of healing that de-centers the individual to focus on the village, on the communal. He and Thomas discuss how modernity, especially in Western cultures, creates a false dichotomy between spirituality and science, pathologizes behavior that should instead be integrated, and offers a reductive, motionless view o...2025-04-151h 02
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblRegulate to ResonateThomas explores the relationship between inner space and outer space, examining the ecosystemic impacts of nervous system regulation, presence, and maturity. He shares how contemplative practices, such as meditation, help develop the parts of our brain that promote regulation, the importance of developing a daily practice, and the maturity in knowing when to slow down and take a step back from stressful situations, news, and social media. Tune in to learn how our individual regulation and presence can “go viral”—creating a detoxifying effect that can help end harmful systemic patterns and promote healing on the ind...2025-04-0823 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDiane Musho Hamilton | Waking Up & Growing UpThomas and Zen teacher, mediator, and author Diane Musho Hamilton explore two key spiritual concepts—waking up and growing up— and why they’re so crucial in our rapidly changing world. Diane shares personal stories of loss, challenge, and resilience, and how contemplative practice and emotional development became essential tools for navigating adversity. They discuss spiritual practice, recognizing interconnectedness, and conflict resolution as necessary pathways for individual and collective growth. They also touch on the impact of technology, the importance of community, the role of ritual, and how healing personal trauma can scale up to have a larger...2025-04-0152 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBonus Meditation: Mapping the MindIn this guided meditation, Thomas invites you to explore the current state of your mind. Explore your attachment to your thoughts and welcome a greater sense of presence and curiosity. Watch the video version of the episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/Q0Tty5OWpwI ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ NEW Live, Online Course - Practicing Meditation: Breath, Body, and Vitality Deepen your meditation practice and harmonize mind, body, and emotions in this 4-week online course from Thomas Hübl’s aut...2025-03-2708 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblThe Spiritual Flow of HealingThomas dives deep into the relationship between spirituality and healing, exploring how maturing our relationship with the divine provides incredible resources on our journey of self-discovery and ethical development. This teaching expands on the core spiritual principle of grace, its relationship to forgiveness, and the importance of owning your choices and transgressions as you expand your consciousness and connection to spirit. Thomas explores how to regain connection to our spiritual essence after pain and trauma disrupt it. When crises put us out of synch, those broken parts allow light to come in, and new opportunities t...2025-03-1826 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Lisa Miller | The Science of Spiritual AwakeningThomas and Dr. Lisa Miller, a clinical psychologist, professor, and NYT bestselling author, explore humans’ innate capacity for spirituality. Dr. Lisa explains how neuroscience and cutting-edge research help us understand our hard-wired drive for spiritual awareness and what these discoveries mean for the way we approach our spiritual journeys…and our entire lives. According to Dr. Miller, we’re all receptive to transcendent relationships, we are all emanations of the same source, and there is hard science to back this up. She and Thomas discuss how connection with others can deepen our spiritual experiences and how important it is...2025-03-1147 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblMathieu Lefevre | The Power of Connection to Bridge DividesThomas is joined by Mathieu Lefevre, co-founder of More In Common, to explore the growing polarization in society and the surprising ways in which we are actually more united than we think. Mathieu discusses his extensive research on social divisions in the U.S. and Europe, revealing how social media and news media create a distorted mirror of reality that exaggerates our differences. He explains the concept of perception gaps, where people overestimate how extreme their opponents’ views are, and offers insights on how to bridge these divides. Thomas and Mathieu examine the critical role of l...2025-03-041h 00
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblNavigating the Waters of ComplexityHow can we stop repeating patterns from the past? Thomas Hübl explores what it will take for individuals and societies to respond maturely to the current atmosphere of collective stress and not give in to polarizing and fragmenting forces. In our lives and in our histories, we see repeating patterns and often react in unhealthy ways. To address these collective issues, we need to look inside—check in with ourselves when we’re triggered, and develop a more fluid and integrated perspective. Thomas shares how integrating our wounds, practicing embodiment, and developing a more mature...2025-02-2529 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblThe Spiritual Ethics of Trauma HealingThomas Hübl explores what it means to get in touch with our deepest humanity, live our spirituality with respect to the freedom of all humans, and move through the world with embodied awareness. We are all composed of a divine light—an unbroken stream of data that began with our oldest ancestors. But we have also inherited trauma from those who came before us, and from the events of our own lives. Healing and integrating these traumas has an ecosystemic impact, it ripples out to those around us and opens us to the spiritual dimension. B...2025-02-0429 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Shefali | Embracing Conscious ParentingThomas is joined by Dr. Shefali, a clinical psychologist, bestselling author, and host of the Parenting & You podcast. Dr. Shefali is an expert on “Conscious Parenting,” an approach to raising children that focuses on the need for parents to identify and heal from their own traumas—especially childhood traumas—so that they don’t pass on harmful patterns and behaviors to their kids. She and Thomas discuss the importance of creating emotional safety in parent-child relationships (and all relationships) in order to create an environment where a child, friend, or partner can be their authentic self. They also cover...2025-01-2150 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblTamala Floyd | Healing Our Parts and Our SelvesThomas is joined by Tamala Floyd, a psychotherapist, IFS lead trainer, speaker, and the author of “Listening When Parts Speak: A Practical Guide to Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy and Ancestor Wisdom.” They discuss the relationship between the “Self” and the multiple “parts” of the self in Internal Family Systems work, and how understanding and integrating our protective parts helps us heal past traumas and establish a stronger relationship with our innate, inner selves. Tamala shares wisdom on ancestral healing, explaining how intergenerational trauma work supports IFS work, and helps us to free ourselves from pattern...2025-01-1455 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Mariel Buqué | Breaking the Generational Trauma CycleThomas is joined by renowned trauma psychologist, bestselling author, and CEO of Break the Cycle, Dr. Mariel Buqué. They dive deep into intergenerational trauma, exploring how it’s handed down through family lines and how we can effectively heal it. Dr. Buqué’s extensive work with trauma healing has shown the importance of healing in connection with others, especially when the traumas we’ve suffered were traumas that happened in relationship. As humans, we are interconnected, interdependent beings, and it’s healthy and natural for us to rely on each other. But trauma can make that difficult. Thomas...2024-12-0351 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblEmbodying HopeThomas offers insights on how we can generate and maintain hope, exploring hope as a skill and a practice rather than just a belief. He defines hope as the presence of agency—something that we can actively influence and co-create with each other. Many who have suffered trauma find it difficult to maintain presence and tend to view this as a negative thing. But Thomas offers a different perspective. He explains that being pulled “out of the moment” is an intelligent function that helps us survive traumatic events. Instead of fighting our feelings and pathologizing our lac...2024-11-2623 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Robert Waldinger | The Surprising Truth About HappinessThomas is joined by Dr. Robert Waldinger, a psychiatry professor and the director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, to explore the secrets to human happiness and thriving. They discuss the profound insights gained from the longest-running study on human happiness, revealing how relationships, stress regulation, and having a strong sense of purpose shape our health and longevity. Dr. Waldinger shares the factors in our lives that we can adjust to have greater agency over our happiness, and the role of wealth and privilege in wellbeing. The conversation also explores the transformative power of meditation, specifically i...2024-11-2048 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBONUS: Being Rooted in an Ancestral ContextIn this special bonus episode, Thomas examines the role of our ancestors in our lives and how lessons from the past can help us heal and evolve as humans. Our ancestors have left us with many gifts, but have also burdened us with unintegrated trauma. By learning how to connect to our roots and integrate those fragmented pieces of the past, we can bring light, creativity, innovation, and resilience into our legacies. And by doing this work in combination with personal and collective healing, we can build a better world for future generations. ✨ STA...2024-11-1412 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblHow Healthy Relationships Create Collective HealingWelcome to the 100th episode of Point of Relation! We’re so excited to share this milestone with you and we’re incredibly grateful to all of our listeners for their continued support. In this episode, Thomas Hübl explores the concept of relational presence, an essential component of healing personal and collective trauma and nurturing healthy and fulfilling relationships in our lives. Thomas shares the fundamentals of presence, why it’s such an important element of the way we communicate, and how we can learn to co-regulate and resonate with the people in our lives.2024-11-0532 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblAncestral HealingThomas discusses the importance of ancestral healing and explores how to develop a felt sense of connection with our ancestors. Connection is essential to healing, and connecting with both the wisdom and the unintegrated traumas of our ancestors helps us to be more present and grounded in our own lives, and accelerates our personal and collective healing. Our ancestors have handed us a wealth of resources, and also a whole lot of unfinished business. Thomas explores how we can connect to the sacred spark of life that we’ve inherited, and feel into frozen areas of wounding and...2024-10-2231 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblElise Loehnen | Owning Our Collective ShadowThomas Hübl and New York Times bestselling author Elise Loehnen discuss the often misunderstood realms of shadow work and collective trauma. They explore how facing our inner darkness can lead to profound personal and societal transformation, and share practical insights on integrating the messy, painful parts of ourselves for spiritual growth and global healing. Without awareness, whatever is being suppressed in the deep layers of our collective shadow will be passed on to future generations. But by implementing new rituals and architectures of healing, we can transform stagnant energy into aliveness, creativity, ethical upgrades, and stronger collaboration across c...2024-10-1550 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBonus: Guided Awareness MeditationThomas guides a meditation to help you drop into your body, embrace the sensations and emotions that arise, and use your awareness to help regulate your nervous system, open your heart space, and start to feel more grounded. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, in...2024-10-1015 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblHealing Through Compassionate AwarenessThomas Hübl explores the intricate relationship between trauma, healing, and spirituality. He explains that trauma is not defined by the events we experience but by our inner responses to overwhelming situations, often leading to emotional, mental, and even societal stagnation. He discusses how we can reintegrate the frozen parts of ourselves to support growth, creativity, and deeper connections, and how healing trauma opens us to deeper love and relational awareness. With consistent spiritual practice, connection to community, and unwavering compassion for ourselves and others, we can face difficult challenges in our lives and overcome th...2024-10-0833 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblAyọ Tometi | Collective Healing Through ActivismThomas is joined by human rights leader and co-founder of #BlackLivesMatter, Ayọ Tometi, to discuss the powerful connection between activism and healing. Ayọ shares her journey to becoming an activist and her perspective on collective healing, focusing on the power of storytelling and the importance of acknowledging our collective pain. She and Thomas explore how creating spaces for deep listening and shared experiences can transform communities, and practical ways to contribute to social change while fostering personal and collective well-being. Ayọ stresses the importance of feeling in order to heal, and shares strategies for maintaining levity and compas...2024-10-0145 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblHelena Norberg-Hodge | Local Action for Systemic HealingThomas is joined by Helena Norberg-Hodge, a bestselling author, filmmaker, and pioneer of the new economy movement. They discuss the fundamental importance of reconnecting with nature, local food systems, and community as antidotes to the damaging impacts of globalization. She shares her experiences working with Indigenous cultures and explores how localization not only heals people and places but also addresses major issues like climate change, food security, and social fragmentation. Together, they explore the intersection of systemic trauma, environmental sustainability, and the path toward a more interconnected and resilient future. ✨ Did you miss the...2024-09-2447 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblAttunement: Connecting to the Flow of LifeIn this solo episode, Thomas unravels the mysteries of attunement. Discover how this practice goes far beyond conventional emotional intelligence and continues into deeper connections and spiritual growth. Uncover the keys to transparent communication, trauma healing, and accessing subtle spiritual information for personal and collective transformation. ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference? Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get...2024-09-1733 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblRealigning With Divine LawIn this special bonus episode, Thomas reads Verse 25 from the Tao Te Ching, offers his analysis, and shares how we can come back to living a life that is more informed by inner balance in a world that is often out of balance. This episode is dedicated to a cherished member of our team, the late Digo Delgado. His adventurous spirit, kindness, and laugh touched everyone who had the privilege of knowing him. We dedicate this episode in loving memory to Digo, with gratitude for all of his contributions and the time we shared. 2024-09-1209 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblRoshi Joan Halifax | Compassion as the Key to ResilienceThomas is joined by Buddhist teacher, Founder and head teacher of Upaya Zen Center, social activist, and author, Roshi Joan Halifax. They discuss Roshi Joan’s pioneering work in end-of-life care, and how spirituality can inform and inspire more compassionate activism. Roshi Joan shares her insights on how decades of practice have equipped her to navigate suffering with resilience, how compassion benefits both the giver and receiver, and the importance of embracing moral challenges with grace. She and Thomas also explore the importance of community, mindfulness, and meditation in healing trauma, and how this can lead to bea...2024-09-1053 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Diane Poole Heller | Healing Attachment WoundsThomas is joined by internationally recognized speaker, author, and expert in the field of attachment theory and trauma resolution, Dr. Diane Poole Heller. They discuss Diane’s work in attachment theory, exploring how our early experiences with our caregivers affect our attachment styles, and what we can do to move into secure attachment in our relationships. Dr. Heller views trauma as a broken connection—with ourselves, our lives, the earth, or other people—and explains how therapists and healers can co-regulate and attune with their clients’ nervous systems to create a safe environment for transforming trauma. Dr. Heller b...2024-09-031h 10
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblThe Essence of LifeThomas shares deep insights into how we can embody the soul's wisdom and increase our capacity to be present and form a deeper alliance with life. He shares tools and practices for becoming more grounded and spacious in our daily lives, and in challenging situations, and how that gives us the courage, curiosity, and strength to turn difficulties into growth, expansion, and wisdom. He also offers embodiment practices to help us connect our physical and emotional data streams, creating a more coherent awareness of our internal processes, and increasing our natural intuition and capacity for change. 2024-08-2733 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblJulia Kim | Holistic Economic HealingThomas is joined by global wellbeing and wellbeing economics expert, program facilitator, and researcher, Julia Kim. They discuss how Bhutan's holistic approach to economics, deeply rooted in spiritual and cultural values, prioritizes individual and collective happiness and wellbeing over profit and expansion of capital. Julia explains the concept of Gross National Happiness (GNH) in Bhutan, contrasting it with the more conventional measure of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), and how this system is more regenerative than extractive, less driven by overconsumption, and leads to better outcomes for people and the environment. At a time of personal...2024-08-2054 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblRuth King | The Medicine of DharmaThomas is joined by celebrated author, educator, and meditation teacher, Ruth King. They explore the profound responsibilities and perspectives that come with eldership and the importance of presence in guiding others. Ruth shares her wisdom on racial healing, the power of community, and the role of artistry as cultural medicine. She and Thomas explore the healing potential of mindful communication and the value of embracing impermanence to alleviate suffering. Ruth also shares reflections on integrating Buddhist Dharma teachings into social contexts and how words can heal when used with conscious intention. ✨ Sign up for...2024-08-1352 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblV | Wound as a Portal Into a New WorldThomas is joined by playwright, author, performer, activist, and creator of “The Vagina Monologues,” V (formerly Eve Ensler.) They discuss the profound impact of trauma and the power of healing through collective and community-based approaches. V shares her personal journey from a tumultuous childhood to becoming a global advocate for women's rights, emphasizing the transformative power of love, art, performance, and community in overcoming trauma and reckoning with the harms of patriarchy. They explore the revolutionary work of the City of Joy in Congo, and how its unique, supportive environment fosters healing and helps elevate wome...2024-08-061h 03
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblAbigail E. Disney | Moral Injury and the Complex Legacy of DisneyThomas is joined by filmmaker, philanthropist, and activist Abigail Disney. They discuss how Abigail’s activism has been informed by the darker aspects of the Disney company and family legacy, and how that legacy is reflective of larger problems in American society. They also dive deep into the idea of moral injury, which arises when individuals are forced to act against their ethical values, leading to deep psychological and emotional wounds. She and Thomas explore how moral injury can result from systemic failures and the personal struggles of those in conflict zones. Abigail critiques the tendency to fl...2024-07-3049 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBonus Meditation: Levels of LightIn this guided meditation, Thomas invites you to expand your awareness and tune in to the subtle light of your soul. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s...2024-07-2509 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblThe Power of Collective HealingThomas dives deep into the foundational principles of collective healing, exploring the challenges of individual healing and the profound benefits of healing from trauma within a safe and supportive group. He shares how the intimacy and closeness of group healing spaces enable participants to be more open and present, which facilitates a coherent and resonant experience for all involved. In these settings, the healing of the individual is amplified by the attention and emotional feedback of the group, and vice versa. Thomas also explores how this concept can be scaled up, and how what he calls “collective wi...2024-07-2325 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblElise Loehnen | Balancing Empathy, Anger, and Responsibility in Polarizing TimesThomas is joined once again by New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen. They discuss the important work of reconnecting to our bodies, learning to fully embody our emotions—including anger—and what it takes to create safe spaces for difficult emotions to emerge and become integrated. Elise shares personal insights about grounding and releasing anger, and the powerful healing potential of setting honest boundaries. She and Thomas explore how increasing our inner resourcing and individual capacity for discomfort can help us detoxify wounds inherited from previ...2024-07-1654 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblChristiana Figueres | Climate Change as a Journey to the HeartOn this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by Christiana Figueres, an internationally recognized leader on global climate change. They discuss her extensive work in helping to create global regulatory frameworks around climate change, and how we can apply the power of our agency as a collective to work towards regeneration instead of creating more destruction. Christiana and Thomas observe how our individual healing processes mirror the social transformation humanity must undergo to address the climate crisis. They explore how we can fertilize the ground of possibility and see climate change not as an inevitable...2024-07-091h 00
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBonus: The 3-Sync MeditationIn this special bonus episode, Thomas guides us through the 3-Sync Meditation Practice, a foundational meditation in Thomas’ teachings. “3-Sync” refers to the synchronization of our physical, emotional, and mental experiences. It’s a simple practice to help generate presence and digest whatever arises. You can return to this practice again and again when you are experiencing overwhelm, or just need a moment for space and integration in your day. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://p...2024-07-0416 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblMystical Teachings From Wisdom TraditionsThomas discusses three foundational concepts of mystical teachings: Awareness, Movement, and Ethics. He explores how mindfulness synchronizes our awareness with our perception, how Taoism and other wisdom traditions help us integrate the past so we can be more present in the flow of life, and how internal regulation and spaciousness make us less dependent on external rules and validation. Thomas emphasizes how these powerful spiritual tools can help us to deepen, evolve, and unify our experience of life. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” he...2024-07-0225 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblSharon Salzberg | Caring for Those Who Care for OthersThomas is joined by meditation pioneer, world-renowned teacher, and New York Times bestselling author, Sharon Salzberg. They discuss how meditation brings us deeply in touch with how connected we all are, and helps us embrace our authentic selves. Sharon has worked extensively bringing tools of yoga, meditation, and community building to those in caring and healing professions. She stresses the importance of balance and explains how meditation and mindfulness practices can help us be present with suffering as well as joy—without causing ourselves undo harm or dissociating from our problems. She and Thomas explore the...2024-06-251h 04
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblVenerable Dr. Yifa | Buddhism and the Search for Universal TruthsThomas is joined by Taiwanese Buddhist nun, scholar, writer, and Founder of the Woodenfish Foundation, Venerable Dr. Yifa, PhD. They discuss the relationship between science and religion, focusing on how modern scientific advances can be viewed from a Buddhist lens, and the philosophical and ethical questions posed by new technology. Dr. Yifa shares how she chose the path of becoming a Buddhist nun, and how the discipline she learned in that process has helped her in her academic studies and life. She and Thomas explore how both religion and science offer avenues to p...2024-06-181h 01
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblMichael Beckwith | Embracing Growth and PossibilityThomas is joined by the Founder and CEO of the Agape International Spiritual Center and the author of Life Visioning, Michael Beckwith. They discuss how believing in possibility and maintaining hope are essential to growth, transformation, and our ability to live an authentic and fulfilling life. Michael shares his insights into how our minds have been hijacked by news, media, and circumstances beyond our control, and shares practices and strategies for gaining sovereignty over our awareness. He and Thomas explore how we can ask ourselves more empowering questions instead of succumbing to disempowerment a...2024-06-1155 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblCultivating Wisdom On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas dives deep into the foundational concept of wisdom - exploring what it takes to cultivate wisdom within ourselves, and how the individual effects of wisdom are deeply intertwined with the whole of humanity. Thomas believes that wisdom arises when we grow and mature through difficult circumstances, integrating what we learn from these experiences and allowing ourselves to expand. Practicing presence can be challenging for many of us, but the more we integrate the past, the easier it gets. Presence, as Thomas explains, is a beautiful gift that t...2024-06-0430 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblKoshin Paley Ellison | Finding Refuge, Care, and Healing in MeditationThomas is joined by Koshin Paley Ellison - an author, Zen teacher, Jungian psychotherapist, and co-founder of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care. They discuss the deep benefits of Buddhist meditation practice, and how it can enhance the benefits of traditional therapy - allowing us to go to greater depths in our healing work by teaching us how to be present with pain. Koshin has applied these teachings through his own healing journey and in his groundbreaking program for healthcare workers that developed during the pandemic. He and Thomas explore how the relevance of the F...2024-05-2851 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblMeditation: Mapping the Emotional SystemThomas guides you through a meditation to connect you to your physical body, and then expand out to include your emotional system, exploring your emotional landscape. Which emotions are you comfortable with? Which would you rather avoid? You’re encouraged to approach this meditation with openness and curiosity. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilit...2024-05-1615 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblWhat Do We Mean by Trauma?Thomas shares his understanding of the nature of trauma and what is most essential for us to heal as individuals and as a collective. He explains that trauma is not something that should be stigmatized, but is actually an intelligent evolutionary response that has helped humans to survive overwhelming and painful experiences. But when these events are not fully felt, processed, and integrated, they become frozen in our subconscious, making us reactive to triggers, and causing us to become either hyperactivated, or dissociated and numb. Thomas explores how we can learn to instead be responsive to...2024-05-1426 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblAndrea Gibson | Befriending MortalityThomas is joined by Andrea Gibson, one of the most celebrated and influential spoken word poets of our time. They discuss how Andrea’s cancer diagnosis resulted in a profound spiritual transformation stemming from a liberating feeling of acceptance. Andrea also explains how this shift radically changed their writing and performances. Andrea shares stories and poetry that illuminate their unique perspective on death and grief, imploring us to face the unknown with curiosity and courage, and stop fighting against the circumstances of life. They and Thomas explore how welcoming feelings of grief and embracing mortality can enable us...2024-05-0752 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblFrancis Weller | Grieving in CommunityThomas is joined by Francis Weller, MFT - a psychotherapist, soul activist, and author of the bestselling, The Wild Edge of Sorrow. They discuss the need to return to a communal, ritual model of witnessing and processing grief. Francis explains that grief requires two things: containment, and release, and he shares how a structured grief ritual creates a supportive space where grief can be honored, held, and digested. Francis calls this the “village mind” - a communal field that invites us to let go of our individualistic notions about healing. In this context, we can be reminded of o...2024-04-301h 00
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblInnovation, Technology, and TraumaThomas examines the relationship between technological innovation, creativity, and trauma healing. He explores how trauma hinders our ability to evolve, update, and grow, and how advances in technology have outpaced the ethical maturity of our collective consciousness. He emphasizes the need for our societies to integrate collective and ancestral trauma so that we can stop repeating cycles of harm and learn to use our technology wisely. Thomas stresses that this is possible and that creativity and art can help us to “speak the unspeakable” and harvest essential learning from the frozen wounds of the past. ...2024-04-2312 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBonus Meditation: Connecting to InspirationIn this special bonus episode, Thomas leads us on a guided meditation to help ground us into our bodies and tune in with potentiality. He explores the mystical understanding of inspiration and how spiritual practice can help us to be more open and sense the potential of the future. This meditation is intended to help us integrate the learnings from the previous three episodes in our four-part series on Technology, Innovation, and Consciousness. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates b...2024-04-2315 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Angel Acosta | AI: The Meeting of Consciousness and TechnologyThomas Hübl is joined by contemplative social scientist, consultant, and educator in leadership, social justice, and mindfulness, Dr. Angel Acosta. They discuss the rise of Artificial Intelligence (AI) technology and its implications for our collective evolution as a species. In developing this technology, humans have unintentionally imbued it with our own biases and traumas. Thomas and Angel reflect on what’s needed for our individual and collective nervous systems to adapt to so much overwhelming information, and how we can incorporate wisdom from mystical and spiritual traditions to guide us through this new frontier. Can w...2024-04-1653 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblRandima Fernando | Building Humane TechnologyThomas is joined by Co-Founder of the Center for Humane Technology, Randima Fernando. They discuss how technology hijacks our dopamine response and reinforces trauma symptoms. Randima explains the downstream consequences of the “attention economy,” including social media’s addictiveness and its negative impacts on our psychology. He and Thomas explore how better technology education, along with mindfulness practices, can offset these negative effects and help us bring our dopamine systems back into balance. Randima emphasizes how important it is, for both children and adults, to understand our own moral motivations so that we can become less susceptible to man...2024-04-0949 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblElise Loehnen | Confronting Our Cultural ShadowsThomas is joined by the author of the New York Times bestseller, On Our Best Behavior, and the host of the podcast “Pulling the Thread”, Elise Loehnen. They discuss what she calls the ‘cultural shadow’ of women - the ideas and behaviors that women have been socialized and conditioned to reject - and how women can embrace their complicated totality instead of repressing their authentic selves. Elise’s recent book examines women’s social conditioning through the lens of the “seven deadly sins”. She and Thomas explore the trap of “goodness” for women and how the standards imposed on them lead...2024-04-0253 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Joy DeGruy | Dissolving the Barriers to ConnectionOn this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by internationally renowned researcher, educator, and author Dr. Joy DeGruy. They discuss how fear and ignorance impact our ability to recognize our fundamental oneness, and what’s needed for American society to come together to heal our collective wounds. Dr. DeGruy has spent a lengthy career in what she calls “heart work” - bringing people together to share their stories and generate a level of intimacy, empathy, and understanding that can only be gained through first-hand experience. She and Thomas explore how trauma has been normalized for margina...2024-03-2659 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblEmbodying Our Soul’s CapacityThomas explores the idea of spiritual insight and how having a consistent, disciplined, contemplative practice can increase the depth of meditation and allow genuine insights to emerge. As we travel through life, we can learn to see the movement that is inherent in everything and use our soul’s energy to realize our potential and discover where we are called to belong. Thomas considers this idea of “finding your way” and how we can be open to our planet’s knowledge and evolution and use that information creatively to illuminate our own path forward. But that’s not the on...2024-03-1943 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Sará King and Dr. Dan Siegel | The Neuroscience of BelongingThomas is joined by neuroscientist, education philosopher, and social entrepreneur Dr. Sará King, and clinical professor of psychiatry, co-director of the Mindful Awareness Research Center at UCLA, and Executive Director of the Mindsight Institute Dr. Dan Siegel. They discuss the concept of Intrapersonal Neurobiology - an interdisciplinary approach to understanding how our minds create our experiences, with an emphasis on the benefits of what Dr. Siegel refers to as “self-expanding emotions” - empathy, compassion, gratitude, and awe. They dive deep into the idea of the collective nervous system, how we can learn to experience it, and h...2024-03-121h 07
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblSebene Selassie | Cultivating Interconnectedness Through MeditationThomas is joined by writer, speaker, and meditation teacher Sebene Selassie. She provides guidance and wisdom for meditation instructors and beginners alike. She and Thomas discuss ways to create a consistent, coherent, and long-term practice, even when meditation feels difficult or overwhelming due to trauma. Sebene explains key elements, such as mindfulness and compassion, that can help us build a strong foundation and observe what arises during meditation with kindness and understanding. She and Thomas also explore how meditation can benefit activism and participation in society, and the importance of practicing in relation and community, especially for...2024-03-0553 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblFrederic Laloux | Trauma-Informed OrganizationsThomas is joined by celebrated business thinker, social entrepreneur, Founder of "The Week", and author of Reinventing Organizations, Frederic Laloux. They discuss how hierarchy relies on certain people having power over others, and how this concept is antithetical to our true human nature, despite being deeply ingrained in society. They explore Frederic’s work to help organizations shift to a “self-managing” model, and what it takes to get people on board. Frederic has learned that by bringing people together to surface their deepest assumptions about their way of operating, and examining what that implies about humanity, they can org...2024-02-2752 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBecoming and BelongingThomas discusses two forces that drive us as human beings: the will to become, and the will to belong. He explores how our formative parental relationships can either encourage or subdue our drive to become our authentic selves and how our early strategies to compensate for scarcity can influence our path as adults. Thomas emphasizes the relationship between becoming and creativity and notes the harm caused by inhibiting a child’s freedom to be themselves. Ultimately, we all seek nourishing relationships imbued with supportive energy. And although trauma tends to reduce our spiritual energy, we can learn to...2024-02-2019 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblAlanis Morissette | Journey of EmpowermentThomas is joined by wholeness advocate, thought leader, and legendary Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter, Alanis Morissette. They discuss how to adhere to your values while passionately pursuing your life’s purpose, and how to re-connect to your authentic self after experiencing trauma. Alanis shares the somatic practices that helped her to overcome dissociation and experience embodiment again, and the pivotal role that art and music played in her journey. She and Thomas also explore how difficult it can be to thrive in a competitive, male-dominated industry as a highly sensitive person, and how becoming a parent co...2024-02-1356 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblIntegrating the Past to Rewrite the FutureThomas Hübl explores what motivates people to walk the spiritual path, and how it can be difficult to discern our true calling when our personal and societal environments are fragmented. He explains how being present with and processing our experiences allows us to fulfill our spiritual karma, heal inherited wounds, and close narrative circles that originated in the past. Thomas defines karma as an unconscious energy that presents us with a choice: allow this energy to be passed on un-processed, or consciously process this energy so that we can light the way towards a more creative, au...2024-01-3032 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblRev. angel Kyodo williams | Racial Healing and the Yearning to Be SeenOn this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by author, spiritual teacher, outspoken activist, and the founder of the Center for Transformative Change - Reverend angel Kyodo williams. They discuss the healing power of being seen as your true self, and how this creates the conditions for collective healing. Rev. angel explores how systems of power and oppression have created divisions in our society and undermined our sense of belonging, especially for Black people and other marginalized groups.But in creating safe spaces that are resilient enough to allow our true selves and feelings to...2024-01-2249 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBob Delaney | Moral Injury and RestorationOn this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by author, consultant, and advocate for post-trauma awareness, Bob Delaney. They discuss the profound impact of Bob’s time doing undercover work to infiltrate mafia crime families. He experienced intense shame and guilt from deceiving the people he was investigating, despite believing that the work was necessary. He and Thomas discuss how Bob overcame the isolation and trauma of repressing these emotions, and how society can better serve the first responders who endure so much trauma in their lines of work. Bob emphasizes the importance of h...2024-01-1653 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblPost-Traumatic Learning and Sensitivity | A Q&A EpisodeThomas answers questions submitted by listeners. He explores how post-traumatic learning and growth can occur both individually and collectively. Collective healing is a powerful force that can help our societies evolve by surfacing past wounds that need to be addressed, giving us the opportunity to restore our social ethics, and helping to prevent similar traumatic events from occurring in the future. He also discusses what causes a person to be “highly sensitive,” and how approaches to nervous system regulation and emotional grounding should be tailored to fit the needs of people with this type of refined perception. 2024-01-0926 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblZainab Salbi | Self-Kindness in Humanitarian and Climate WorkOn this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by humanitarian, writer, and social entrepreneur Zainab Salbi. They discuss the difficult nature of working in the humanitarian space to address the many injustices that people, particularly women, face worldwide. Zainab explains how being open and vulnerable about her own traumatic experiences gave her the compassion and inspiration needed to tell women’s stories and work to end oppression, systemic violence, and climate change. In a line of work that is so emotionally taxing, she’s learned firsthand how crucial it is to resource yourself with the same...2024-01-021h 04
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDavid Whyte | The Vulnerable Choice of Breaking our Hearts OpenOn this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by poet, author, speaker, and leadership consultant, David Whyte. They discuss the deep benefits of learning to hold both happiness and difficulty at the same time. David shares some of his poetry and the personal experiences that helped him to directly observe the interconnectedness of all living beings. He and Thomas explore our individual and collective reluctance to be vulnerable, present, and open to change, and how embracing those aspects of life can open us to true maturation and healing. As David explains, there is beauty to...2023-12-261h 20
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblMaryCatherine McDonald | The Intelligence of the Trauma ResponseThomas is joined by PhD trauma researcher, life coach, and the author of "Unbroken", MaryCatherine McDonald. They discuss Dr. McDonald’s work to redefine our understanding of trauma and eliminate the stigma surrounding it. Using scientific research, and through the lens of her own experiences with trauma and grief, Dr. McDonald has developed a definition of trauma that describes it as “an unbearable emotional experience that lacks a relational home.” She and Thomas explore how symptoms of trauma are adaptive rather than pathological, and how feeling ashamed of them inhibits our ability to heal. Dr. McDona...2023-12-1947 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBecoming Mindful Global Citizens: A Q&A EpisodeThomas answers questions from Point of Relation listeners about activism, presencing, and staying grounded and open to joy amidst global suffering and uncertainty. He explores the mutually resourcing relationship between contemplative, internal practices, and collective actions that aim to affect social and political change. He also offers tools and practices to help us maintain emotional and spiritual regulation while being deeply affected by current events. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 ht...2023-12-1230 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblLama Tsomo | Spiritual Practices for the Real WorldThomas is joined by Tibetan Buddhist teacher, author, and co-founder of the Namchak Foundation, Lama Tsomo. They discuss Tibetan Buddhist teachings and practices that illuminate our fundamental interconnectedness and enable us to approach our relationships and our reality with greater compassion and empathy. Lama Tsomo explains how Compassion Meditation can help loosen the grip of the ego, and make us less reactive in conflict. They also explore the different levels of depth in meditation practice, the deep, healing value of group practices, and how we can experience spiritual one-ness and unification without bypassing the hardships of our...2023-12-0550 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblZenju Earthlyn Manuel | Paths to Healing: Contemplation, Mysticism, and RitualOn this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by author, poet, ordained Zen Buddhist priest, teacher, and artist, Zenju Earthlyn Manuel. They discuss the gateways in Zenju’s life that put her on her spiritual path. Zenju beautifully describes the joyful curiosity of spiritual inquiry, and the power of ritual and ceremony to create sacred spaces where collective pain and trauma can be expressed, witnessed, and healed. She explores the rhythmic quality of ritual and meditative practices, and how they can help us access a deep silence from which creativity and presence naturally emerge. She an...2023-11-281h 09
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblNavigating Uncertainty with Empathy with Stephen GyllenhaalThomas is joined by filmmaker and founder of the Identity Development Institute, Stephen Gyllenhaal. They discuss the pain of living during these uncertain and tumultuous times, and how having the courage to face our collective trauma can help us navigate this unprecedented era. In an interconnected world, things like violence, war, and mental illness are undeniable. And sometimes the institutions that are meant to address these problems fall short. Stephen and Thomas explore the importance of surfacing our collective wounds, and resonating with them so that those who are suffering can maintain healing connections instead of feeling...2023-11-2152 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblCreating Safe Spaces At Work: A Q&A EpisodeIn part two of this special Q&A series, Thomas answers more of the thoughtful questions submitted by listeners during his recent live event with Dr. Gabor Maté. This Q&A centers on topics explored in Thomas’ recently released book - Attuned. In this episode, Thomas discusses the impact of individual healing and attunement on larger social systems, and what is needed to create more grounded, attuned, and trauma-informed workplaces. ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/ ✨ Sign up for updates by vi...2023-11-1422 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblJoana Breidenbach | Disinformation Through the Lens of TraumaThomas is joined by cultural anthropologist, social entrepreneur, and author, Joana Breidenbach. They discuss the ecosystem of disinformation that is fragmenting society and the systemic factors that contribute to it. Joana explains the role that technology plays in how we obtain and interpret information, exploring the motives of those who spread disinformation, and the historical trends that have made it increasingly difficult for people to understand unfamiliar perspectives. She and Thomas also examine how individual and collective trauma can make us more susceptible to disinformation, and how greater self-reflection, embodiment, and humility can make us more resilient...2023-11-0752 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblCreating Healing Spaces with Pádraig Ó Tuama and Thomas HüblThomas is interviewed by distinguished Irish poet, theologian and mediator, and the host of the Poetry Unbound podcast, Pádraig Ó Tuama. They discuss the relationship between spirituality, religion, and trauma, and the importance of incorporating art - including writing, poetry, and visual art - into social healing rituals. Pádraig emphasizes that “Art speaks to our being in a different way than rational words.” Their conversation also focuses on the need for structured spaces in society where people can eschew dogmatic thinking and digest fear and pain together in order to feel more grounded and gain valuable new per...2023-10-3150 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblRabbi Dr. Tirzah Firestone: Metabolizing Intergenerational TraumaOn this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas Hübl is joined by author, Jungian psychotherapist, and renowned Jewish scholar, Rabbi Dr. Tirzah Firestone. They discuss the centuries of trauma that have yet to be metabolized in our collective unconscious, and what we can do, both individually and collectively, to integrate and heal from this painful shared history. She and Thomas explore how trauma lives in our nervous systems, and is transmitted across generations via epigenetics. They agree that we can start to meaningfully recover from these wounds by borrowing, with permission, the nutrition provided by wisdom t...2023-10-2450 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblHealing Across Divides: A Q&A Episode with Thomas HüblIn this special Q&A episode, Thomas answers some insightful questions submitted by listeners during his recent live event with Dr. Gabor Maté, which focused on topics explored in Thomas’ recently released book - Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World. The questions covered by Thomas explore how to practice attunement in an environment of harsh political polarization, why it’s difficult - but possible - to feel attuned to collective issues even when there is discord in your family or personal relationships, and that the numbness many of us feel in response to trauma...2023-10-1729 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblJack Kornfield - Healing Trauma Through Collective MeditationThomas Hübl is joined by writer, trained Buddhist monk, and meditation teacher, Jack Kornfield. They discuss how Buddhist meditation and mindfulness practices, in combination with more traditional forms of therapy, can help to heal individual and collective trauma. Jack explores how his own traumatic experiences led him to Buddhism. Early in his spiritual journey, he spent extensive time in highly traumatized environments. There, he learned the importance of creating safe, ritual containers where people can come together to share and process their trauma. He believes that mindful, loving awareness is a skill that anyone can...2023-10-031h 17
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblThe Art of Attunement with Thomas HüblThomas Hübl further expands on Attunement– a relational mindfulness practice that allows our nervous systems to feel one another and transmit many layers of information. He explains that each of us contains a rich inner world that we must get to know in order to attune with others. When we create inner calm, we also create a safe space where we can be fully present with people in their authentic entirety. These attuned environments can lead to entire ecosystems of Attunement where deep emotional connections are fostered over time. Thomas also explores how Attunement grants us gre...2023-08-2219 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblKrista Tippett - The Transformative Power of LanguageThomas is joined by Peabody Award-winning broadcaster, New York Times bestselling author, and the host of On Being, Krista Tippett. They discuss the virtues of hospitality, humility, and creativity in spirituality, and in creating spaces where deep subjects and emotions can safely emerge. Krista explains how her upbringing and work as a journalist have shown her the need for human civilization to outgrow our binary ways of thinking and have the courage to hold contradictions and complexities. She and Thomas explore how humanity can mature and spiritually evolve, starting from within ourselves and our bodies, a...2023-08-081h 05
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblEP28 | Healing Trauma Through Resonance and Storytelling with Stephen GyllenhaalAward-winning director Stephen Gyllenhaal joins Thomas Hübl to talk about the power of film in visualizing the human experience and the effort in refining our current approach to trauma. After a dissociative identity disorder diagnosis, he discovers the root of his pain, leading him to a journey of healing and forgiveness. He believes that attunement is the key to trauma healing. Instead of pushing for healing to happen, we need to act as resonators, to sit down with the other person’s trauma and create space for expression. Stephen’s harrowing childhood experience did not h...2023-08-0851 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblCreating Inner and Outer CoherenceThomas Hübl explores the concepts of Inner and Outer Coherence and the role they play in relationships and communication. He describes inner coherence as the capacity to understand our own inner experience, resonate with others, and feel whole. It’s a function of our nervous system that combines external sensory information with our internal thoughts and emotions. He explains that inner coherence leads to outer coherence- it creates a space for us to be present, empathetic, and share openly with others. But when we become triggered or defensive, the bridges between us collapse, making it hard to f...2023-07-2518 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblAmy Elizabeth Fox - Collective Healing Through AttunementThomas shares practices, theories, and more from his new book "Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma―and Our World". Pre-order now at attunedbook.com to receive a new guided meditation, book excerpt, and help alert booksellers to the strong interest in the book to ensure that it's stocked widely and accessible for people to find. Amy Elizabeth Fox of Mobius Executive Leadership was kind enough to conduct this interview with Thomas. According to Thomas, “Resonance is the universal language of life,” and the resonance that occurs between our nervous systems is what allows us to con...2023-07-1844 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblIncreasing Collective Intelligence Through Effective Leadership with Bob AndersonThomas is joined by author, leadership expert, and the founder of Leadership Circle, Bob Anderson. They discuss what it takes to be an effective leader in our current era of change and upheaval. Through research and extensive experience, Bob has concluded that the most salient characteristic of an effective leader is their emphasis on relationship, and that this is a universal theme across all cultures. He explains how an effective leader can develop a group whose collective intelligence is greater than any one individual’s intelligence, and that this is where the emergent future lies. 2023-07-0440 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblThe Connection Between Trauma and Tension and How to Release ItThomas Hübl explores how tension is a physical manifestation of undigested trauma, and how we can begin to release tension by becoming more in tune with our emotions. Trauma responses can cause us to feel angry, overwhelmed, numb, and disconnected from the present moment. Thomas explains the importance of recognizing these signs of dysregulation without judgment. Moments of stress can guide us toward the emotions that we need to address and digest, serving as opportunities for us to better understand our inner worlds. He also provides tools to help regulate the nervous system and find presence du...2023-06-2721 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblDr. Ruby Gibson - Healing Historical TraumaDr. Ruby Gibson; author, cultural healer and advocate, and the developer of Somatic Archaeology© joins Thomas for a second conversation. They dive deep into Ruby’s life’s work offering healing to Native Americans. They discuss methods of healing that address the historical and ongoing traumatization of Native American communities, and how she weaves traditional spiritual protocols into newer methodologies. Ruby explains that Indigenous people view life as a wheel in which everything is interconnected and that individual healing is inextricably linked to communal healing. She stresses the importance of healing in groups in order to foster a sen...2023-06-2054 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblRestoring the Future Through Embodied Trauma IntegrationThomas Hübl explores how trauma changes our experience of time, and how integration and acceptance can help us create a better future. When traumatic events occur in the present moment, we become overwhelmed, and our experience of "presence" is split, pushing the trauma into the subconscious realm. He explains that our compartmentalized trauma is like a data package that becomes stuck in the past, interrupting the flow of time like a rock in a river. As we go through life, we experience tension, numbness, and absence-- repetitive difficulties influenced by the trauma embedded in our past. Th...2023-05-2323 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblWilliam Ury - Russia, Ukraine, and the Vicious Cycle of Humiliation & TraumaPlease note that this episode was recorded during the first months of the war in Ukraine, and William and Thomas' commentary is relevant to that time. Since then, circumstances may have changed. Humiliation is reflected in most major historical events, especially in wars. Throughout the centuries, humans continue to be stuck in the same pattern of humiliation. And it has become even more significant in the present. With COVID-19 bringing a sense of interconnectedness and the whole world tuning in to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, author and anthropologist William Ury dissects the root cause...2023-05-091h 03
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblAncestral Healing: The Gifts and Wounds of our AncestorsIn this episode, Thomas explores the concept of Ancestral Healing - a way of attuning with our ancestors and integrating the information they’ve passed down through our family histories. We inherit wisdom and resilience from our ancestors, as well as trauma and pain. Thomas explains the need to incorporate all of these aspects into ourselves so that we can draw strength from our ancestral data flow when we need it, and learn from their wounds and transgressions in order to release ourselves and our families from patterns that no longer serve us. Key Points: 00:24 De...2023-05-0221 min
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblBefriending the ‘Other’: Seeing Beyond Extremism with Deeyah KhanThomas talks with award-winning documentary filmmaker Deeyah Khan about her experience of interviewing extremists. Rather than dismissing them as unreachable fanatics, Deeyah has decided to engage them directly as human beings, with respect for our common humanity. She and Thomas reflect on how to remain hopeful and empathetic amidst the social divisiveness of our time. Multi-award-winning filmmaker Deeyah Khan has directed documentaries such as “Banaz: A Love Story (2012)” and “White Right: Meeting The Enemy (2017)”, which have shed light on the heartbreaking reality of discrimination and violence while telling people’s compelling stories through a loving lens. Dehumani...2023-04-181h 15
Point of Relation with Thomas HueblAn Invitation from Thomas HueblWe are incredibly excited to launch our new podcast – 𝐏𝐎𝐈𝐍𝐓 𝐎𝐅 𝐑𝐄𝐋𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍. In these episodes, Global Healing Facilitator Thomas Huebl aims to explore the ancient and contemporary topics melding in the zeitgeist of our time and find the sweet spot of our relational experience. ✴ Here is a space we behold and can bravely explore the boundaries of that which we already know. ✴ Here is where we can learn more about how our lives intersect with the future and observe the convergence of the conscious and unconscious realms. ✴ Here is where we enter an expanded territory coming into a place of freshness, innovation, and inspiration.2023-02-2006 min