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The MakeThe MakeA Life Changing Rooted Story - Joseph OlazagastiHave you ever hit rock bottom? In this episode, Queens-born Navy veteran Joseph opens up about breaking free from family trauma, overwhelming shame, and suicidal thoughts—only to discover lasting hope through faith, community, and the Rooted experience. Host Trevor Devage digs into the power of surrender and accountability, and Joseph leaves you with one challenge that could change every choice you make. Listen now to find out what it is.Joseph Olazagasti's story video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2pRXJvhWAQ2025-04-3043 minThe MakeThe MakeWhen Jesus Ruins Your Ordinary: A Conversation with John CassettoIn this episode of The Make, Trevor DeVage welcomes back guest John Cassetto—former Saddleback pastor, worship leader, and Kingdom builder—to talk about what happens when Jesus ruins your ordinary and invites you into extraordinary purpose. From preaching four services to spontaneous moments of worship and real conversations about revival, church culture, and the freedom found in following Jesus, this episode captures the heartbeat of Pantano and the power of surrender. Whether you're a seasoned believer or new to faith, this conversation will challenge and encourage you to keep asking: “What’s my next step?”Insta...2025-04-1646 minThe MakeThe MakeHow Saying 'Yes' to God Changed EverythingIn this powerful episode of The Make Podcast, Trevor DeVage sits down with graphic designer and everyday faith-warrior Tyler Crawford (aka TC Graphics)—a man who never expected to lead, but stepped up anyway. What happened next? God turned one obedient moment into a ripple effect that changed lives, families, and faith journeys.🎧 Listen now. Be inspired. Say yes.🔗 Mentioned Links:Follow Tyler on Instagram: @tc_graphxJoin a Rooted group: pantano.church/rootedServe Tucson: pantano.church/serveEaster at Pantano...2025-03-2641 minThe MakeThe MakeRedefining Manhood with Biblical PrinciplesIn this episode ofThe Make Podcast, Trevor DeVage goes deep into what it truly means to be a biblical gentleman. He unpacks key traits of godly manhood—sacrificial love, integrity, respect, and character over charm. Hear powerful insights on leadership, relationships, and how men can lead like Jesus. Plus, discover why character outshines charm every time and get a sneak peek into next week’s topic:Designer Sex.💬Have questions? DM us on Instagram@themakecommunity.🎧Also, check out Trevor’s new leadership podcast,The Bite, for quick, impactful leadership lessons:YouTube - @TrevorDeVage#BiblicalManh...2025-02-1223 minThe MakeThe MakeInvesting in the Next Generation: The Impact of Camp and Community BuildingIn this episode, host Trevor DeVage welcomes guest Frank Nichols to discuss their weekly journey of transitioning from ‘Sunday taking’ to ‘everyday making.’ They dive into the significance of student ministry and the power of camps in transforming young lives. Frank shares his passion for the One Day conference and the impact it had on students, as well as the importance of investing in adult leaders. They also explore the new summer camp initiatives for middle and high school students at Pantano Christian Church, the introduction of WindShape camp for younger kids, and the urgent need for scholarship support to help...2025-02-0541 minThe MakeThe MakeLove in ActionIn this season's finale of The Make, Trevor DeVage welcomes Randy, a long-time member of Pantano, to share his remarkable story of faith, loss, and love in action. Reflecting on over 30 years of service, Randy recounts the profound journey of navigating the heartbreaking loss of his son to leukemia, finding strength in God, and embodying kindness in even the toughest moments.2024-11-2750 minThe MakeThe MakeBuilding the Church Beyond SundaysIn this episode of The Make Podcast, Trevor DeVage sits down with a ministry leader John Cassetto to discuss the journey of faith, ministry, and the powerful work of God in diverse cultural settings. From small-town Midwest churches to the mission field of New England, to leading worship and global ministry at Saddleback Church in California, John shares insights into church growth, cultural impact, and the 'why' behind building multi-site campuses. They also explore the challenges and blessings of fostering authentic discipleship in both post-Christian and highly churched contexts. Links: Instagram: @trevordevage Instagram: @johncassetto 2024-11-2045 minThe MakeThe MakeFrom Outcasts to Freedom: God Behind Bars & Finding True PurposeIn this episode of The Make, Trevor DeVage sits down with his old friend, Landon Sherman, for an honest, inspiring look into the life-changing work of prison ministry. Landon shares stories from his journey with God Behind Bars, an organization that brings hope and faith to inmates across the country, including incredible moments of transformation sparked by a simple tablet app.2024-11-1345 minThe MakeThe MakeUnpolitical Jesus with Mark MooreIn this episode of "The Make," host Trevor DeVage sits down with special guest Mark Moore, teaching pastor at Christ Church of the Valley, to dive into a thought-provoking discussion on politics, servant leadership, and the teachings of Jesus. As they kick off Pantano's new series, "Unpolitical Jesus," they explore how Jesus defied political norms by using power to serve the powerless. Join us as we uncover how Christians can navigate today's divisive political landscape by prioritizing the Kingdom of God over earthly allegiances.2024-10-0958 minThe MakeThe MakeBilingual Worship to Expand the Church's ImpactIn this episode of The Make Podcast, host Trevor DeVage is joined by Pastor Saul to discuss the exciting growth of Revive, our bilingual service. With a focus on reaching Tucson's diverse community, Saul shares the heart behind bilingual worship and the importance of offering a space where English and Spanish-speaking congregants can worship together. They also delve into the church's future expansion plans, including multi-site locations, partnerships with organizations like Gospel Rescue Mission, and the importance of discipline in leadership and discipleship. This episode is packed with insights...2024-10-0251 minThe MakeThe MakeTurn Your Mess into a MessageIn this episode of The Make Podcast, host Trevor DeVage sits down with Ralph to discuss his incredible journey of transformation. From excelling in high school football to battling addiction and finding faith, Ralph's story is a testament to the power of perseverance and grace. Learn how he turned his struggles into a message of hope, became a devoted husband and father, and now helps others find freedom in recovery. Join us as we explore the importance of trusting God's process and discovering how to turn your own mess into a message.2024-09-2549 minThe MakeThe MakeEmbracing Transformation and AuthenticityJoin host Trevor DeVage and guest Rebecca Hamlin in this engaging episode of The Make, where they talk about transformation, authenticity, and scripture. From hilarious childhood memories to the serious matters of faith, body, and spirit, they explore how to use scripture as a tool for change, not as a weapon. With discussions ranging from personal growth to social norms, this episode highlights real-life applications of faith in today's world. Listen in for thoughtful dialogue, a bit of humor, and powerful insights on living a better story.2024-09-1844 minThe MakeThe MakeTales of Transformation and GraceJoin Pastor Trevor DeVage and his cohost Amanda Nelson as they discuss personal moments of baptism and stories of transformation and growth. Of course with a dash of shenanigans! FOLLOW ALONG: Trevor -⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠@trevordevage⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amanda - ⁠⁠⁠@im_amandanelson The Make - ⁠⁠⁠@themakecommunity⁠⁠⁠ OTHER LINKS: ⁠⁠⁠Leave us a Message⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunday's Message - Watch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠What’s Next at Pantano?⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pantano Shop⁠⁠⁠⁠2024-02-2846 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 3 - Ep. 009In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan dive into the message from this past weekend. The topic of discussion was Sacrificial Generosity: Giving demonstrates our dependence on God. We acknowledge that all we own has been given to us by Him. In His generosity toward us, God desires that we, too, are generous and will use our resources as a tangible way to partner with Him in His work in the world and in the lives of those around us. We are blessed to be a blessing. They talk about living within or below your means to live ge...2023-08-3055 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 3 - Ep. 007In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan dive into the message from this past weekend. The topic of discussion was Strongholds: What if getting found out is not something to fear but something to free you? They talk about different strongholds they’ve dealt with and how they think opening up about strongholds and addictions, while scary, is ultimately very freeing. On coffee break this week, Dylan talks a bit about the mock espresso tonic (recipe below) that he created with the coffee from Necessity, and Trevor talks about the comforting old friend that is his coffee from EXO...2023-08-1649 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 3 - Ep. 006In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan are joined by Rebecca Hamlin, who preached this past weekend at Pantano. Together, they dive into her message. The big idea of the message was that our view of God determines our response to God. They talk about how they spend time praying and different things that work for them in their lives and schedules. On coffee break this week, Dylan poses a unique challenge to Trevor involving tattoos and coffee. Like every week, we also take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano. For all that...2023-08-0952 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 3 - Ep. 004In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan dive into the last message from the Identity Crisis series. The big idea was: You are an Overcomer. They explore what it means to be an overcomer and how overcoming in areas of your life can change your trajectory. Coffee break this week is a bit chaotic (but when is it not?!). Trevor is now on week 5 of no coffee, but he’s getting excited for Dylan to be in Tucson next week with a box of Necessity. Next week’s episode will also have a fun coffee tasting and challenge hosted...2023-07-261h 03The MakeThe MakeSeason 3 - Ep. 003In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan take a deeper dive into this past Sunday’s message from the Identity Crisis series. The big idea behind this week's message is this: You are Loved. They explore the essence of love and its ability to change everything instantly. On coffee break this week, Dylan’s finally getting to try the new coffee from Necessity (since he’s back home in San Diego), and Trevor is on week 4 of no coffee (RIP). Like every week, we also take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano. For all th...2023-07-1951 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 3 - Ep. 002In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan take a deeper dive into this past Sunday’s message from the Identity Crisis series. The big idea behind this week's message is this: You are Chosen. We all desire to be chosen, valued, and accepted. In a world full of imperfections, pain, and struggles, we are faced with a choice. We can either mask our problems and put on a facade of happiness, or we can acknowledge our need for God and genuine connection with others. On coffee break this week, Dylan’s finishing off his coffee from Enjoy Coffee Roaste...2023-07-1251 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 3 - Ep. 001This week’s episode is the Season 3 kickoff! Trevor is back from his sabbatical, and Dylan is on remotely from Rhode Island again! This week's message kicks off a new series called Identity Crisis. The big idea behind this new series is this: We live in a world where everyone seems to be unsure of who they really are. We are seeing a cultural identity crisis. We want to help people lean into who God says they are vs who the world is trying to convince them they are. So the guys spend some time unpacking that id...2023-07-0553 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 019In this week’s episode, Dylan is in Disneyland with his mom for a belated Mother’s Day celebration, so Trevor, Robert (Pantano’s Digital Ministry Director), and Amanda (Pantano’s Digital Ministry Assistant) dive deeper into the message from this past weekend. This week's message is about change and how if you don’t change anything in your life, then nothing will change. Coffee Break is fun this week as Trevor talks to Robert and Amanda about their coffee routines, and they try a coffee from Tucson Coffee Roasters. Like every week, we also take a peek at what’s com...2023-05-1754 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 018In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan dive deeper into Drew Sherman’s message from this past weekend. This week's message is about anxiety and how we can deal with it in the church and our lives. Drew couldn’t join us this week, but follow him on his socials below to discuss the message! Coffee Break is back, and it’s a total train wreck, honestly. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor also take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano. For all that and more, give this episode a listen! ...2023-05-1041 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 017In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan dive deeper into the message from this past weekend. The main idea from this weekend is that what comes into your mind comes out in your life. What stronghold is holding you back? What truth from God's word demolishes that stronghold? Coffee Break is back and it takes a mythical twist. They talk about the coffees they’re drinking this week and whether or not the chupacabra exists. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor also take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano. For all that and mo...2023-05-0354 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 016In this week’s episode, Trevor, Dylan, and repeat Make offender Saul sit down and dive deeper into Saul’s message from this past weekend. They unpack what it means to reframe your thinking and how to do that effectively. Coffee Break is back from its hiatus, and in a surprise turn of events, it seems the guys have converted Saul into a true coffee nerd. They talk about the coffees they’re drinking this week and what Saul’s plans are for his new coffee area in his office. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor also take a peek at...2023-04-2652 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 015In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan take a deeper (and more personal) dive into the first message in Pantano’s new series, Winning The War In Your Mind. Coffee Break takes a break this week to give the guys more time to dig into the topic of mental health and discuss some of their struggles in the area and how they deal with them. However, our Coffee giveaway does close this week! So don’t forget to enter. Just share this episode and follow and tag us on Instagram! Like every week, Dylan and Trevor also take a peek...2023-04-191h 04The MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 014In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan take a deeper dive into the message from Easter Sunday. On Coffee Break this week, Dylan talks about the coffee from Presta that Stephen Jobe brought in for Easter, and Trevor enjoys some coffee from EXO in Tucson. Our Easter giveaway with a V60 kit and a bag of coffee is still going! To enter, share this episode and follow and tag us on Instagram! Like every week, Dylan and Trevor also take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano. For all that and more, give this...2023-04-1258 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 013In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan are joined by a special guest! Rebecca Hamlin, the owner of Soul Space Tucson. Soul Space is a Tucson-based space committed to your health through wellness services – counseling, coaching, and massage. Rebecca is also on the Teaching Team at Pantano. She sits down with Trevor and Dylan and dives deeper into her message from Palm Sunday. Coffee Break this week is fun since Dylan and Trevor are back in the same room, and Dylan announces an Easter giveaway with a V60 kit and a bag of coffee from Yellow Brick in Tucs...2023-04-051h 06The MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 012In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan sit down to take a deeper dive into week six (the final week) of our Difference Makers series. Each week we’ve been unpacking one of Pantano’s core values and explaining how that value defines us as Difference Makers. Week six’s value is: Changed People Are Connected People. When you have been changed, you cannot help but be connected. When you have been radically transformed by God, the natural response is to connect with other people to make a difference. On Coffee Break this week, Dylan talks about a new shop...2023-03-2956 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 011In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan sit down with a first-time guest and former Lead Pastor of Pantano, Glen Elliott, to take a deeper dive into week five of our Difference Makers series. We’re unpacking one of Pantano’s core values each week and explaining how that value defines us as Difference Makers. Week five's value is: The Bible Transforms How We Live and Who We Become. Scripture is God-breathed and is to inspire and transform our way of thinking, living, and loving. We need to be willing to allow God's word to transform the way in whi...2023-03-2253 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 010In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan sit down and take a deeper dive into week four of our Difference Makers series. We’re unpacking one of Pantano’s core values each week and explaining how that value defines us as Difference Makers. Week four's value is Radical Generosity Reshapes Our World. Radical Generosity is us helping people not like us experience a Jesus who became just like us. When we go above and beyond with generosity, people experience the love and grace of an “above and beyond” God. Trevor and Dylan also talk with first-time guest Stephen Jobe and f...2023-03-151h 00The MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 007In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan sit down and take a deeper dive into week one of our Difference Makers series. This is going to be an amazing series and one that you won’t want to miss a single week of! Each week we’ll be unpacking one of Pantano’s core values and explaining how that value defines us as Difference Makers. Week one’s value is: We are Unapologetic Grace Givers. The tail end of that value is "We meet people where they are and generously give away the grace we’ve freely received.” The guys talk...2023-02-2257 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 006In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan sit down and take a deeper dive into week six, the final week, of our Dangerous Prayers series. The prayer this week is Send Me. The guys talk about how we fully surrender our lives to God, and how once we’ve done that it leads to us praying: God, send me! This is where it all culminates…God’s grace compels us to respond. Of course, Coffee Time is back and the guys try another Honduran coffee, this time from James Coffee in San Diego. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor t...2023-02-1556 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 005In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan are joined again by Saul Galvan, the Revive & Facilities Pastor at Pantano. Saul gives a bit of a deeper dive into his message from this past weekend at Pantano, which was week 5 of our Dangerous Prayers series, and how that message can apply to your daily life. No salsa with Saul this time, but the guys do get to share a cup of coffee (and explain why there isn’t any salsa!) and Dylan gives takes a look at what’s next for everyone at Pantano! For all that...2023-02-0853 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 004In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan sit down and take a deeper dive into week FOUR of our Dangerous Prayers series. The prayer this week is: Search me, O God, and know my heart. This prayer takes us to the place where we are most vulnerable with God. It is a dangerous prayer that David prayed in Psalm 139 when he asked God to search his heart, reveal his fears and uncover his sins. On Coffee Break the guys try a coffee recommended by Alexander Mills from the Angry Roaster in Toronto, Canada! They also celebrate Dylan’s 28th b...2023-02-0155 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 003In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan sit down and take a deeper dive into week two of our Dangerous Prayers series. Rebecca Hamlin wasn’t able to join us this week, so you’ll hear a voicemail from her at the beginning to talk a bit about her message. The prayer this week is, God, break my heart. Coffee Break is back, be it a little derailed, and they guys try a coffee from Mammoth that Dylan brought back from New Orleans. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the peop...2023-01-2547 minThe MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 002Season 2 - Ep. 002 In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan sit down with Trevor’s dad, Jim, and take a deeper dive into week two of our Dangerous Prayers series. The prayer this week is Speak to Me. The guys talk a lot about distractions and things that are constantly competing for our attention, and how they each find ways to be still and spend time listening to God. It’s a lot like a generational round table! Coffee Break is back, and they guys try the coffee from Nova that Dylan brought back from Mobile, AL, du...2023-01-181h 02The MakeThe MakeSeason 2 - Ep. 001It’s 2023, and The Make is back for Season 2!! In this week’s episode, Trevor and Dylan sit down (virtually) and take a deeper dive into the first message from our new series, Dangerous Prayers. The prayer this week is Make Me Bold. Coffee Break is a little different this week as the guys talk a little bit about some of the coffees that they enjoyed over Christmas break. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano as well and listen to a voicemail from Glen! For all that a...2023-01-111h 00The MakeThe MakeEp. 022In this week’s episode of The Make, the last episode for 2022, Trevor and Dylan take time to recap this past year. They talk about their favorite memories from 2022 both personally and at Pantano. Coffee break is much needed this week since Trevor found Dylan asleep in the studio before recording this episode, so make sure you listen to hear about that. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano, including a sneak peak into some things that are coming in 2023 as well. For all that and more, give...2022-12-1456 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 021In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan sit down with Alexander Mills over Zoom and take a deeper dive into the first week of Pantano’s new series, Best Christmas Ever. Alexander co-pastors a church in Niagara, Canada, and also owns a coffee trailer, so digging into not only Coffee Time, but also the message from this past weekend is something that you’ll want to make sure you listen to. The guys also announce the winner of the contest from Episode 20, so congratulations, Elijah Smith! Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at wha...2022-12-071h 08The MakeThe MakeEp. 020In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan flip the script and celebrate coffee time first and announce the first giveaway on the podcast (which includes a Fellow Carter Move Mug, coffee from Yellow Brick here in Tucson, a V60 Kit, and some stickers from The Make) to celebrate this being the 20th episode! After that, the guys take a deeper dive into the message from this past weekend and talk about what it looks like to live generously. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of P...2022-11-3052 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 019In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan are joined by Saul Galvan, the Revive & Facilities Pastor at Pantano. Saul gives a bit of a deeper dive into his message from this past weekend at Pantano on Thankfulness and how that can translate to your daily life, especially headed into the holiday season. Salsa with Saul makes a return, and the guys also share a cup of coffee and some protein muffins that Melissa (Dylan's wife) made for them! For all that and more, give this episode a listen! FOLLOW ALONG:...2022-11-2357 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 018In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan sit down with a couple of special guests, Jamie & Jennefer Vernoy. Jamie and Jennefer are great examples of people that have decided to go and make. They share their story and unpack their past, including the struggle with pornography and the redemptive story that has played out in their lives in the past few years. Coffee break makes its return, and the guys finally get to try one of the coffees they picked up from Crema Coffee in Nashville during SALT Conference. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor al...2022-11-161h 06The MakeThe MakeEp. 017In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan sit down with a special guest, Hillary Grigel. Hillary attends Pantano and lives in Vail, Arizona with her husband, three children, and dog. She is a licensed architect, freelance writer, speaker, and blogger who proclaims hope and encourages women to live confidently and embrace freedom. She is also a survivor of sexual assault and breast cancer. Hillary feels passionately that we are not defined by past hurts or struggles, but by our identity in Christ. There is nothing God cannot redeem. God answers prayers. God is still in th...2022-11-0950 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 016In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan sit down and take a deeper dive into the message from this past weekend, Ground Altering Worship. The main idea from this week is that worshiping in our pain brings promise to people. Coffee Break is a little different this week as the guys talk a little bit about coffee shops as a special kind of 3rd space where people feel comfortable to open up and have real conversations, and how you can do that in your own life with others! Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a...2022-11-0238 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 015In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan sit down with our guest speaker, Cal Jernigan. Cal has been on staff at Central Christian Church in Phoenix since 1987 and has been the Lead Pastor since 1999. He’s a passionate communicator and disciple-maker. If you haven’t listened to his message from this past weekend, check that out in the links below! Cal’s message was all about commonality, so they talk about what it looks like to find commonality with people around you and show them the love of Jesus. Dylan picked up a new bag of coffe...2022-10-261h 00The MakeThe MakeEp. 014Ep. 014 In this week’s episode of The Make, Dylan is back from Mexico, and he and Trevor take a deeper dive into week 3 of Seismic Shifts, as well as talk more about what Dylan was up to in Mexico. Coffee Break switches things up a little bit this week, and the guys talk about their coffee routines, as well as Dylan’s coffee case that he travels with. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano. For all that and more, give this episode a listen...2022-10-1956 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 013In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan sit down with Robin Blumenthal, Pantano's Outreach Pastor, and take a deeper dive into week 2 of Pantano’s current series: Seismic Shifts. Week 2 is all about ground shaking community, so they talk about what it looks like to go into your community and shake the culture with Jesus. Dylan picked up a new bag of coffee from Yellow Brick Coffee over the weekend, so he and Trevor try that out and talk about what a peaberry is in the coffee world! Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a pe...2022-10-1254 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 012In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan sit down and take a deeper dive into the first week of Pantano’s new series: Seismic Shifts. The main idea from week 1 is that we gather to scatter to help people matter. Coffee Break is back this week and a new coffee from Script makes an appearance! Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano as well. For all that and more, give this episode a listen! FOLLOW ALONG: Trevor - @trevordevage everyw...2022-10-0552 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 011In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan are joined by Saul Galvan, the Revive & Facilities Pastor at Pantano. Saul gives a bit of a deeper dive into his message from this past weekend at Pantano and how that can translate to your daily life. In a first-ever for The Make, Dylan and Trevor opt to skip the Coffee Break and instead do Salsa with Saul! For all that and more, give this episode a listen! FOLLOW ALONG: Trevor - @trevordevage everywhere. Dylan - @dyln_mtchll everywhere....2022-09-2845 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 010In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan are joined by a couple of special guests! If you were at Pantano’s Night of Worship on Monday, September 19th then you may know them: Darian Sanders & Isaiah Bailey! They sit down and talk about what being an everyday maker looks like for them on tour with The Lion King on Broadway! Like every week, Trevor recaps his message from the past weekend and Dylan gives a quick peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano. For all that and more, give this episode a list...2022-09-211h 20The MakeThe MakeEp. 009In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan are joined by a special guest! Rebecca Hamlin, the owner of Soul Space Tucson. Soul Space is a Tucson-based space committed to your health through wellness services – counseling, coaching, and massage. Rebecca is also on the Teaching Team at Pantano. She sits down with Trevor and Dylan and dives deeper into her message in Hope Dealers from this past Sunday, Hope Illuminates. Coffee Break this week is fun with a coffee MadLib, and a great recipe for Flash Brew. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at w...2022-09-1442 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 008In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan talk more about week 2 of Hope Dealers. They unpack the idea that hope is for all people, not just those that are like us. As always, a new coffee makes an appearance on the show, and Dylan and Trevor talk about how they spent their Labor Day weekends. Like every week, they take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano as well. For all that and more, give this episode a listen! FOLLOW ALONG: Trevor - @trevordevage everywhere. Dy...2022-09-0746 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 007In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan sit down and take a deeper dive into the first week of Pantano’s new series: Hope Dealers. The main idea from week 1 is that Hope Dealing Brings Life Healing. As always, a new coffee makes an appearance on the show and Dylan and Trevor spend a little extra time in the coffee break talking about how coffee, creativity, and Jesus can all be connected to each other. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano as well...2022-08-3137 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 006In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan are joined by a special guest! Rebecca Hamlin, the owner of Soul Space Tucson. Soul Space is a Tucson-based space committed to your health through wellness services – counseling, coaching, and massage. Rebecca is also on the Teaching Team at Pantano. She sits down with Trevor and Dylan and dives deeper into her message from this past Sunday, Jesus is… The Way. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano as well. For all that and more, give this epi...2022-08-2454 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 005In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan talk about why we don’t play with dead things. They also recap Trevor's message from the past Sunday, which was part 5 of the Jesus is… series. Then they jump into the much-anticipated coffee review from Dylan’s trip to Portland! Just like every week, Dylan and Trevor also take a look at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano. For all that and more, give this episode a listen! FOLLOW ALONG: Trevor - @trevordevage everywhere. Dylan - @dyln_mtchll everywhere...2022-08-1751 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 004In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan are joined by a special guest! Saul Galvan, the Revive & Facilities Pastor at Pantano. Saul gives a bit of a deeper dive into what it looks like for him to be an everyday maker, and how that can translate into your world. Being an everyday maker starts with being available. Like every week, Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano as well. For all that and more (including a pretty fun coffee break), give this episode a listen! FO...2022-08-1046 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 003In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan jump right in and talk about making what it looks like to become the gatekeeper and how you can avoid that. They also recap Trevors message from the past Sunday which was part 3 of the Jesus is… series. Then Dylan and Trevor take a peek at what’s coming up for the people of Pantano. For all that and more, give this episode a listen! FOLLOW ALONG: Trevor - @trevordevage everywhere. Dylan - @dyln_mtchll everywhere. FEATURED COFFEES: Script...2022-08-0348 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 002In this week’s episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan talk about making disciples and how our stories can play a huge part in that process. They also give us a glimpse of what’s coming up for the people of Pantano, including our Rooted experience launching soon, as well as details on our upcoming Rocky Point trip and the End of Summer Celebration for kids that’s happing this Friday night! And, they also recap Trevor's message from the past Sunday, which was part 2 of our Jesus is… series. For all that and more, give this episode a listen...2022-07-2746 minThe MakeThe MakeEp. 001In the first episode of The Make, Trevor and Dylan give a run down of what to expect from this new Pantano podcast. At its core, The Make is a modern take on the Great Commission. Jesus calls us to go and make something, and that something is disciples. We’ll talk about how we do that, and feature guests who are out there making disciples. In the middle of that, we’ll share some stories, talk about what coffee we’re enjoying at the moment, recap what we talked about at Pantano the Sunday before, and about what’s coming u...2022-07-2040 minThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 4- Episode 6- Nostalgia and Unwritten Rules of Black CultureIn this all new episode, Adrian and Trevor unpack the unwritten rules of black culture that most white people are clueless about. Not only that, but they talk through the nostalgia of their kids growing up and how to deal with each stage of letting your kids go. Hear this and more on this episode.  FOLLOW ALONG: Adrian- Facebook, Twitter, Instagram Trevor- @trevordevage everywhere. Website- trevordevage.com ARTICLE: 21 Unwritten Rules of Black Culture That Most White People Are Clueless About SONGS: Nostalgic- b...2022-05-051h 10The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 4- Episode 5- Stressed Out, Kidney Transplants, and Broken ContractsHave you been dealing with any stress in your life? Does it seem that it has been growing? Do you feel that uncertainty has even crept into the areas of certainty in your life? Then this is the episode for you. Not to mention we update you on Adrian's health. His need and excitement for a kidney transplant. You will hear about Trevor's journey of trying to sell his house and the disappointment of their first contract falling through.  FOLLOW US: Adrian Williams- Facebook, Twitter, Instagram Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage (everywhere) Website HERE 2022-03-241h 04The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 4 Episode 4- What The Church Can Learn From Snoop Dog, The Super Bowl, and Dr. DreWE ARE BACK!!! In this brand new episode, find out why we had to take a temporary hiatus. Adrian unpacks what life has thrown at him in the last two months. Plus, we talk about what the church can learn from Snoop Dog, the Super Bowl, and Dr. Dre. We talk about everything from how sports unify, to how church can do damage. Don't miss out on this conversation with Adrian Williams and Trevor DeVage. FOLLOW US:  Adrian Williams- Facebook, Twitter, Instagram Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage (EVERYWHERE) Website HERE LINKS FROM THE S...2022-02-211h 10The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 4 Episode 3- The "N" Word, "White Trash", and Women In MinistryIn this ALL NEW EPISODE, Adrian and Trevor have a very special guest on the show. Laura DeVage is the wife of Trevor. She dives deep into a question from a listener about the use of the "N" word, being called "white trash" growing up, and what it really means to be a woman in leadership within the church. This episode is real, raw, and wide open. If you ever wanted to dig deep into these issues, but did not know where to start, this is the episode for you.  FOLLOW US: Laura DeVage- Facebook, Instagram, T...2021-12-221h 17The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 4 Episode 2- What Happens When The Church Talks Politics?On this NEW EPISODE of the The Cultural Redemptive, Adrian and Trevor unpack what it looks like when the church talks politics, how to build real community, and why it is important to have grace filled conversations around cultural hot topics. They unpack everything from hanging with people not like you, to how to bring true unity through moments of disaster and pain. This and more on this brand new episode.  FOLLOW US: Adrian Williams: Facebook, Instagram, Twitter Trevor DeVage: @trevordevage (Everywhere) Website LINKS FROM SHOW: A Great Big W...2021-12-151h 09The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 4- Episode 1- Jesus, Guns, And How We Really Unify HumanityOn this PREMIERE EPISODE of Season 4, Adrian and Trevor dig into whether or not Jesus would carry a gun. They will also dig deep into how we really unify humanity in all aspects of life, and how we truly go from knowing things to growing in things. Not only that, but some musical artists and songs that will make you love the day a little more. Get all this and then some on this PREMIERE EPISODE of season 4 of their podcast.  FOLLOW THEM:  Adrian Williams- Instagram, Twitter, Facebook Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage (EVERYWHERE) Website- www.trevordevage.com SHOW LINKS: Music in sh...2021-12-081h 12The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 16- Black Noise In White Spaces and the Most Underrated Black Artist of All TimeOn this season FINALE episode, listen as Adrian and Trevor unpack what Black Noise in White Spaces really means. How did Jimi Hendrix embody black noise in a white space? Who is the most underrated artist in the black community as a black artist? Listen as they unpack why we should watch, read, and learn from cultures we would not typically learn from. All this and more on this SEASON FINALE of The Cultural Redemptive. FOLLOW:  Adrian Williams- Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage (Everywhere) Website- trevordevage.com LINKS FROM THE S...2021-05-131h 10The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 15- The One About Nothing That Has To Do With EverythingOn this brand new episode, Adrian and Trevor talk about seemingly nothing that has to do with everything. They talk about people wanting the glory without the pain of the story. They talk about books and why they read what they do. They talk about life, Cinco De Mayo, and everything in between, that lead us to people not like us. All this and more on this weeks episode.  FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Adrian Williams- Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage (Everywhere) website: trevordevage.com  MUSIC IN TH...2021-05-061h 14The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 14- How Saying "NO" Could Help With People Not Like YouOn this brand new episode, Adrian and Trevor talk through how the little word "NO" could in fact lead you to more people not like you, so you could in fact help redeem culture. Not to mention, they talk about how to dad better and what it takes to really have long term relationships with your kids. Plus, hear some music from the past and some brand new release music from this week. All this and more on this brand new episode.  FOLLOW: Adrian Williams: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Trevor DeVage: @trevordevage EVERYWHERE. Website: t...2021-04-291h 14The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 13- PART 2- Sin Issues...Not Skin IssuesOn this BRAND NEW EPISODE, Trevor and Adrian sit down with pastor, friend, culture shifter, change agent, 80's Chicago Bulls throwback lookin, all around good guy, Rhansyl Harris. You don't want to miss the episode that is too good for one episode. Catch part two now as they unpack the recent police shooting in Minnesota, the churches response in the inner city, how Covid has effected minority communities, and how we can start the right conversations that lead to the culture finding redemption. All this and more on this two part episode. LINKS:  PART 1- E...2021-04-2132 minThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 13- PART 1- Sin Issues...Not Skin Issues POn this BRAND NEW EPISODE, Trevor and Adrian sit down with pastor, friend, culture shifter, change agent, 80's Chicago Bulls throwback lookin, all around good guy, Rhansyl Harris. You don't want to miss the episode that is too good for one episode. Catch part one now as they unpack the recent police shooting in Minnesota, the churches response in the inner city, how Covid has effected minority communities, and how we can start the right conversations that lead to the culture finding redemption. All this and more on this two part episode.  Social Media: Adrian W...2021-04-1552 minThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 12- Those Who Have Influenced Us The Most...And How To Be Like ThemOn this brand new episode, listen as Trevor and Adrian press into the people that have made the greatest impact on their lives. The conversation leads to how you can also be an influence on others simply by building and cultivating long term relationships.  SOCIAL MEDIA: Adrian Williams: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Trevor DeVage: @trevordevage (everywhere), website: trevordevage.com Links in this episode: Easter Song Video Fall Out Boy- Thnks Fr Th Mmrs  Earl St. Clair- Thank My Self --- Su...2021-04-081h 07The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 11- Why Asian Lives Matter and How Conversations Don't Change Until Jesus Changes YouIn this brand new episode, Adrian and Trevor unpack what it means to love our Asian friends amidst the chaos of racism they have been facing or decades. They will talk through what and how we can help and how we can have a redemptive movement towards culture by reframing how we embrace, encounter, and emerge together. That plus a whole lot more in this episode. SHARE, LIKE, AND REVIEW!!! LINKS FROM EPISODE: Kumbaya- Nick Dorian, Shibo The Cultural Redemptive Podcast Spotify Playlist Follow Us Here:  Adrian Williams: Facebook, T...2021-04-011h 15The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 10- White Noise In Black SpacesOn this brand new episode, Trevor and Adrian will unpack how to live in a world of escapism and discuss the real way to redeem culture. Plus, they will deal with the paradigm of "white noise in black spaces." All this and more on this episode. Social Media: Adrian Williams: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Trevor DeVage: @trevordevage everywhere, WEBSITE LINKS IN THIS EPISODE:  John Mayer, Waiting On The World To Change Justin Bieber and Chance The Rapper, Holy --- Support this p...2021-03-251h 10The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 9- What We Deserve Is Hell!In this episode Adrian and Trevor dive into how we move a world from talking about redemption to actually doing something to bring redemption into the lives of others. They deem this episode the "one about nothing, that is actually about everything." Learn how we need to go from information to transformation. Listen, review, and share. If you have ideas for future episodes, you can email them at culturalredemptive@gmail.com  SOCIAL MEDIA Adrian Williams: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Trevor DeVage: @trevordevage everywhere, website is trevordevage.com Links From This Episode: 2021-03-181h 10The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 8- SPECIAL GUEST Katharine Gerbner: Christian Slavery and Protestant SupremacyOn this episode Adrian and Trevor are humbled and honored to have author, professor, historian, mom, and all around amazing woman, Katharine Gerbner join us to discuss her book Christian Slavery: Conversion And Race in the Protestant Atlantic World. Recently she was a part of the two part documentary on PBS called "The Black Church." We dive into the origins of slavery, the church, and what the term protestant supremacy means. This is an episode that you don't want to miss, as she takes us to school in the best of ways on topics that are tough, but worthy...2021-03-1154 minThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 7- Have We Been CANCELED!!!?In this brand new episode Adrian and Trevor unpack how we can truly deal with Cancel Culture and why it is important if we are going to redeem culture. They also give a sneak peak into next weeks special guest. All this and more on this new episode.  FOLLOW US: Adrian Williams: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook Trevor DeVage: All social media is @trevordevage Website: trevordevage.com LINKS IN EPISODE:  Everybody Wants To Go To Heaven- Albert King Fire- Jimi Hendrix The Black Church Do...2021-03-0458 minThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 6: Why Dad's Need To Stop "Providing" For Their KidsOn this brand new episode Adrian and Trevor dive deep into the conversation of what kids really need from their dads and how dads can actually provide the right things for them. Being a father is one of the most rewarding, yet toughest jobs there is. This week we want to help start the conversation to being a more present and better dad. If you are a dad, have a dad, want to be a dad, or know someone who is a dad...then dive in with us.  FOLLOW US: Adrian Williams: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook2021-02-251h 12The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 5: The Black Church, Fatherlessness, and MmmBopOn this brand new episode Adrian and Trevor talk through the new documentary The Black church. Plus they dive into what is causing fatherlessness in America and how to begin to fix it. Also...why on earth would we play MmmmBop? Listen and find out. Share and subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts.  Follow Us On Social Media: Adrian Williams- Instagram, Twitter, Facebook  Trevor DeVage- All social media is @trevordevage, Website: trevordevage.com LINKS:  The Black Church Scary Pockets- I Want It That Way...2021-02-181h 08The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 4- The Real Social Dilemma, White People Clapping, and Music For Your DilemmasIn this brand new episode hear Trevor DeVage and Adrian Williams talk about the dilemma of social media and how it effects all aspects of our lives. Plus, listen as they deal with white people clapping on the wrong beat and music that will speak to your dilemmas of life. All this and more on this weeks all new episode.  Social Media: Adrian Williams- Instagram, Twitter, Facebook Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage EVERYWHERE, Website Here Songs Featured In This Episode: Mistakes by Lake Street Drive2021-02-111h 19The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Culture Redemptive Season 3- Episode 3- Part 2: Making Discomfort Comfortable: Thoughts From MLK to Female Vice-PresidentsIn this brand new season of the Cultural Redemptive meet our new co-host Adrian Williams as we dive head first into making the uncomfortable something we can comfortably talk about. This episode kicks off a two part conversation. It was too big for one episode, so we made it two. The first half we talk about how to get comfortable with discomfort and why it is so important to do so.  In part two, we unpack the discomfort of not knowing what to do with MLK Day and the ramifications on culture with a black and female VP. Click subscribe a...2021-01-2847 minThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3- Episode 3- Part 1: Making Discomfort Comfortable: Thoughts From MLK to Female Vice-PresidentsIn this brand new season of the Cultural Redemptive meet our new co-host Adrian Williams as we dive head first into making the uncomfortable something we can comfortably talk about. This episode kicks off a two part conversation. It was too big for one episode, so we made it two. The first half we talk about how to get comfortable with discomfort and why it is so important to do so. Click subscribe and share this episode with others.  Social Links: Trevor DeVage: @trevordevage (everywhere) Adrian Williams: @willpositive (twitter) @wise_called_quest (instagram) F...2021-01-2143 minThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 3-Episode 2- Lessons From The Capitol BuildingIn this brand new season of the Cultural Redemptive meet our new co-host Adrian Williams as we dive head first into making the uncomfortable something we can comfortably talk about. We will tackle how the protests and violence at the Capitol Building effect us and those around us, plus much more in this brand new episode.  Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage (EVERYWHERE) Adrian Williams- @willpositive (twitter) @wise_called_quest (instagram) FACEBOOK (follow him here) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theculturalredemptive/support2021-01-1459 minThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Culture Redemptive- Season 3 Episode 1- White Privilege, Is There Black Privilege?, And Getting Comfortably UncomfortableNEW SEASON...NEW SURPRISES...NEW CO-HOST.  In this brand new season of the Cultural Redemptive meet our new co-host Adrian Williams as we dive head first into making the uncomfortable something we can comfortably talk about. We will unpack white privilege, ask the question of if there is black privilege, and much more. You don't want to miss this conversation as we start fresh with new hope and new topics.  Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage (EVERYWHERE) Adrian Williams- @willpositive (twitter) @wise_called_quest (instagram) FACEBOOK (follow him here) Songs in Episode: An...2021-01-071h 13The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Culture Redemptive- Season 2-Episode 6- THE ALL MUSIC EPISODEIn this brand new episode, Trevor DeVage and Christon Gray talk all things music. Take the journey with them as they listen to some of their favorite songs and discuss what makes these songs great. They also talk about the meaning of lyrics, layers of sound, and how life is impacted by music like no other medium on the planet. Click, listen, share, and submit your thoughts and questions. Do them a favor and rate and comment on this podcast as well.  Links: Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You- Ms. Lauryn Hill N...2020-05-211h 15The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive Season 2-Episode 5- Creating In Pain and How To Lean In When You Want To Lean Out.In this brand new episode of The Cultural Redemptive Pastor Trevor DeVage and Recording Artist Christon Gray dig into how to create through pain in life. They discuss creating in death, addiction, hurt, relational strife, and much more. Listen, click subscribe, and share this podcast with others.  LINKS: King Harvest- Dancing In The Moonlight Stevie Wonder- Sir Duke WHERE TO FOLLOW CHRISTON AND TREVOR: All social media platforms- @christongray and @trevordevage Click their names in the episode description to get to their webpages.  --- Support this po...2020-04-3051 minThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 2- Episode 4- A Creative COVID Response with a BRAND NEW SONG PREMIERE!!!A brand new season of our podcast called the Cultural Redemptive featuring Pastor Trevor DeVage and Recording Artist Christon Gray. On this episode we catch up on life, COVID-19, how we should respond to this pandemic, and a special BRAND NEW SONG PREMIERE to bring hope to this crisis. All this and more on this brand new episode.  LINKS IN SHOW: Dee-1- Corona Clap Christon Gray feat. Paige + Jer, Matthew Tuck- See You Soon --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theculturalredemptive/support2020-04-241h 16The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 2- Episode 3- Simba Leading Worship, The Death Of Kobe, And The Roots Of Country MusicA brand new season of our podcast called the Cultural Redemptive featuring Pastor Trevor DeVage and Recording Artist Christon Gray. On this episode they talk about leading worship alongside their friend and broadway star, Darian Sanders. They also unpack the deep impact of the death of NBA Legend and #girldad, Kobe Bryant. Plus, the dig into the roots of country music and how black culture influenced what is now primarily a white demographic genre of music. All this and more on this all new episode.  LINKS: Darian Sanders Lil Naz X- Old Town R...2020-04-161h 11The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 2-Episode 2- Baby Moons, Royal Racism, and Church Music WarsA brand new season of our podcast called the Cultural Redemptive featuring Pastor Trevor DeVage and Recording Artist Christon Gray. On this episode they tackle baby moons, how the royal family has put racism back on display, and how we can overcome the worship and music wars in church world.  Featured Artist:  Emmaline- Ruby Moonchild- To Much To Ask --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theculturalredemptive/support2020-02-131h 14The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Season 2-Episode 1- Bringing In 2020 With Inmates, Black Face, And Yacht RockA brand new season of our podcast called the Cultural Redemptive featuring Pastor Trevor DeVage and Recording Artist Christon Gray. In this episode they unpack bringing in a new year with loving on inmates, Christon's new album, and how yacht rock needs more black artistry. Join them in this amazing conversation and subscribe and share this.  Featured Artist Doobie Brothers- What A Fool Believes Sam Cooke- A Change Is Gonna Come --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theculturalredemptive/support2020-02-061h 15The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Episode 11- CHRISTMAS GIVEAWAYS, White Privilege, And Racial Solidarity With Special Guest Art GrayOn this all new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray do their very first Christmas Giveaway. If you love coffee and good books this one is for you. They are giving away an amazing coffee package that includes the travel pour over called the Palm Press. Not only that, but you will get a free pound of Trevor's favorite coffee from his favorite local coffee shop. BUT WAIT...THERE IS MORE!!! You will also get a signed copy of Art Gray's brand new book called The Banner. It is an amazing true story about the challenge...2019-12-191h 00The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive-Episode 10- The "N" Word, Jesus Video Games, and Special Guest ShabbyOn this brand new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray welcome in the infamous and elusive Shabby...a.k.a Chris Shaban. They unpack their journey through the music industry, talk through a brand new video game called "I Am Jesus Christ", Justin Bieber's confession of using the "N" word and how it needs to be remedied in our culture. Not to mention they unpack the cultural differences between Shabby's home country of Canada and what he sees culturally in the United States. Plus, lots of laughter and of course, more music and Chuck Norris quotes. 2019-12-121h 20The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Episode 9- What To Do With God, Replacing Addiction With Addiction, and Anti-Self-HelpOn this brand new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray discuss the importance of God in their lives, how it effects their daily lives, and how it causes them to help others find the same hope they claim. Not only that, but they talk about how to overcome addiction and make sure not to replace one addiction with another. Plus, brand new music from Christon and artist Dee-1 on Christon's new two song EP called Winner's Circle. Make sure you subscribe wherever you listen and share this with your friends.  Winner's Circle by Christon G...2019-12-051h 04The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Episode 8- Bro Love, Burnout, and A Special Thanksgiving EditionOn this brand new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray discuss what they are thankful for, how you can be more thankful, and how to avoid burnout in life, leadership, and the church. Join us while you prepare to eat turkey, ham, green beans, stuffing, pecan and pumpkin pies, or while cleaning up after the fact. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!!! Stevie Wonder: I Was Made To Love Her Social Media Links:  Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage (everywhere) Christon Gray- @christongray (everywhere) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/s...2019-11-281h 03The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Episode 7- Why The Church Should Be The Leader In Creativity CulturallyOn this brand new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray discuss what it really looks like for the church to drive art and creativity. They journey through what makes something sacred vs secular and if there really is a difference. Plus, you will hear their greatest musical influences for writing music and their greatest influences for speaking and communication. Click the link, subscribe, comment, and share. If you are on the Anchor App, leave them a voice message and it might make it into the show.  Musical Features:  Whole Truth: Can You Lo...2019-11-191h 10The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Episode 6- Sexual Addiction, Kevin Hart, And Chuck NorrisOn this brand new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray discuss what it looks like to go through and come out of sexual addiction, how the church can respond, and how to bring help and hope to those struggling. Plus they unpack how comedians can help preaching and how Chuck Norris is going to solve the issues of the internet. They also feature local artist Telehope and global recording artist Allen Stone. This and more on this all new episode.  Social Media Links:  Trevor DeVage- @trevordevage (everywhere) Christon Gray- @christongray (everywhere) --- Support th...2019-11-121h 03The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive-Episode 5- Getting Spiritually Assaulted, Fixing Our Leadership Gaps, And A Response To Kirk FranklinOn this brand new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray discuss what it looks like to get spiritually assaulted, what the big gaps in their leadership as Christ-followers are, and how we are supposed to respond to Kirk Franklin and his statement to the Dove Awards. They also dig into how we as the church are supposed to love one another so we can more accurately love the world around us. Tune in to this brand new episode to hear this and more. Subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts and share. Leave Christon and Trevor a...2019-11-041h 06The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Episode 4- Porn, Shooting Our Own, and What Am I Doing HereOn this brand new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray discuss how we can get caught up in porn as leaders and Christians and then fear getting blasted when we truly confess our sin to others. Not only that, but they go even more deeper into the conversion of Kanye West and how the church is notorious for shooting its own when they have true Jesus encounters. Plus...they feature their good friend Jonathan Baker and his amazing song off his album "Live To Love" called What Am I. All this and more and this brand...2019-10-281h 04The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Episode 3- Dead Kittens, Skittles, And Mental HealthOn this brand new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray discuss the issues of mental health in the church and culture. What does it look like when the church gets real in its conversation about mental health and how to deal with it inside and outside the church? Find out more and join the conversation on this all new episode.  Links:  To Write Love On Her Arms People Of The Second Chance Brian Reith Patrick Carnes Jared Ellis Podcast- The Homilist --- Support th...2019-10-221h 09The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive- Episode 2: The Joker, The Token, And Amber AlertsOn this brand new episode pastor Trevor DeVage and recording artist Christon Gray are talking about the new Joker movie, tokenism in the church with regards too diversity, and the case of Amber Guyger in Dallas. This episode is packed with loads of great conversations and rabbit trails dealing with more topics than we can type in this description. Also featured in this episode is Dee-1 and his song The Narrow Road. Check him out HERE. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theculturalredemptive/support2019-10-151h 05The Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural RedemptiveThe Cultural Redemptive: Episode 1- Racism, Kanye, and Speaking TruthBrand new podcast called the Cultural Redemptive featuring Pastor Trevor DeVage and Recording Artist Christon Gray.  This episode kicks off the conversation of how we can start to redeem culture and bring a message of hope, authenticity, and truth to the world around us.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theculturalredemptive/support2019-10-0747 min