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What's Your Why?Grizzlies, Paramedics, and the Power of Storytelling with Kevin GrangeWriting is an act of celebration. In all my books, I’m celebrating something—whether it’s grizzly bears, the Himalayas, or the paramedic experience – Kevin GrangeJoin host Emy Digrappa on Winds of Change as she sits down with award-winning author, paramedic, and firefighter Kevin Grange. In this episode, Kevin shares his journey from the landscapes of New Hampshire to the adrenaline-filled streets of Los Angeles as a paramedic—and how these experiences shaped his storytelling.His latest book, Grizzly Confidential, where Kevin explores the hidden world of grizzly bears, challenging myths and reveal...2025-06-0430 min
What's Your Why?Myths of the American West: A Conversation with Historian Betsy Gaines QuammenThe cowboy myth isn’t just about nostalgia—it’s a symbol of independence that still defines Western identity, for better or worse. – Betsy Gaines QuammenJoin host Emy Digrappa on What's Your Why? The Author's Journey as she sits down with historian and writer Betsy Gaines Quammen, author of True West: Myth and Mending on the Far Side of America. In this episode, Betsy discusses the myths and misconceptions surrounding the American West—from Hollywood’s romanticized cowboys to the modern-day influx of newcomers seeking their own slice of wilderness.Growing up in Ohio but mak...2025-05-2839 min
What's Your Why?🎙 From Frat House to Feature Film: Max Marshall’s Wild Journey Through Crime, Culture & EDM“It wasn’t just a drug story—it was about memory loss, collective blackouts, and how privilege lets some people escape consequences entirely.”— Max Marshall on the themes behind Among the BrosIn this episode of What’s Your Why? The Author’s Journey, host Emy DiGrappa sits down with investigative journalist and debut author Max Marshall, whose breakout book Among the Bros explores fraternity life, drug trafficking, and the shadowy systems of privilege on American campuses. Max opens up about turning his true-crime exposé into a feature film for Sony, his brush with organized crime...2025-05-2139 min
What's Your Why?Writing Between Worlds: Rebecca Balcárcel on Heritage, Identity, and Middle Grade Magic“You can actually be whole only if you have both sides of yourself included in your identity.” Rebecca BalcárcelIn this episode of What's Your Why?, host Emy Digrappa sits down with Guatemalan Anglo-American author and poet Rebecca Balcárcel, acclaimed for The Other Half of Happy and Shine On, Luz Véliz!. Rebecca shares her inspiring journey from avid young reader to award-winning middle grade author, weaving in stories of family, identity, and the complexities of growing up bicultural. From raising identical twins to discovering a half-sister in Guatemala, Rebecca opens up about...2025-05-1430 min
What's Your Why?Writing the West: A Literary Life with Tracy DaughertyYou can’t wait for inspiration. You have to develop a habit. Even when you don’t feel like writing, you show up—and the mind begins to wake up. – Tracy DaughertyIn this episode of What’s Your Why?, host Emy DiGrappa welcomes acclaimed author and biographer Tracy Daugherty for a deep and thoughtful conversation about the craft of writing, the influence of landscape, and the shaping power of culture. From his West Texas upbringing to his literary inspirations like Larry McMurtry and Joan Didion, Tracy shares his journey into storytelling, his disciplined writing habits, an...2025-04-3043 min
What's Your Why?Rachel Berg Weaves Art Identity and Nature into Cultural Tapestry"The land has always been my touching stone." – Rachel Berg In this episode, I sit down with Rachel Berg, a multifaceted artist whose work blends diverse cultural influences and artistic mediums. Rachel's unique background, combining Mnicoujou, Lakota, Mexican, and German heritage, serves as the foundation for her creative expression and worldview. This episode offers a glimpse into the mind of an artist who bridges cultures, pushes creative boundaries, and finds inspiration in the natural world around us. Rachel's story is a testament to the power of art in exploring identity, connecting communities, and fostering a deeper understanding of...2025-03-0640 min
What's Your Why?Empower and Lead: A Woman's Journey in Entrepreneurship with Zeahlot Lopez"Become the honey pot and the bees will come." - Zeahlot Lopez Welcome to "Empower and Lead: Women's Journey in Entrepreneurship." Are you tirelessly proving your worth and significance, yet still feeling unfulfilled? You're not alone. Many women entrepreneurs strive for success and recognition but continue to struggle with old belief systems. The hustle can be exhausting when fulfillment and a sense of worthiness seem just out of reach. In this episode, we learn the fascinating story of entrepreneur Zeahlot Lopez who became the youngest cosmetologist in California at just 17. Later transitioning into a career a...2024-12-0532 min
What's Your Why?Celebrating Your Uniqueness: A Journey of Self-Discovery: Carrie Klewin Lawrence"When you take time to listen to yourself and to be excited and to celebrate that individuality, I think it creates such a rich opportunity for conversation and real, authentic connection with people." - Carrie Klewin Lawrence Hey there, get ready to hear about the power of personal storytelling in this conversation. There is a surprising journey, and insights shared by our special guest, Carrie Klewin Lawrence, as she describes her own journey in capturing creativity and conquering imposter syndrome. Discover how embracing your uniqueness can lead to increased confidence and decision-making. We are excited for you...2024-11-1432 min
What's Your Why?Sparking Awe in the Next Generation: Catherine Barr Uses Picture Books & Storytelling to Reveal the Wonders of NatureI think everybody should read picture books, whether you're three or 90 or, in fact, 97, like my mom. - Catherine Barr I absolutely love what I do and embrace the endlessly fascinating, collaborative journey of working with scientists, subject experts and the incredible illustrators and publishers who bring my ideas to life. – Catherine Barr Uncover the unexpected story of how a children's book author's accidental journey led to captivating tales of nature and wildlife that have inspired children worldwide. Catherine Barr’s passion for sparking curiosity in young minds will inspire you. Her unique approach to stor...2024-10-3129 min
What's Your Why?From Family Trauma to Advocacy: An Intimate Portrait of Living with Mental Illness: Meg KissingerThere's two kinds of families, those with mental illness and those who don't have mental illness yet. - Thomas Insel Are you seeking to overcome stigma and family trauma associated with mental illness? Join Emy Digrappa on What’s Your Why? podcast as she shares a compelling conversation with Meg Kissinger, where they explore managing mental illness and overcoming stigma and family trauma. Gain a new perspective and increased awareness. It's time to uncover the solution to achieving a better understanding of mental illness. Award-winning journalist Meg Kissinger reveals how her family was besieged by mental illness in...2024-10-1039 min
What's Your Why?Indigenous Voices In American History With Shelly LoweDid you know that the first Native American to chair the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) grew up on a Navajo reservation in Arizona and faced tremendous challenges on her journey to higher education? Her story will inspire you. Discover how she is promoting indigenous knowledge and cultural inclusivity in education at a national level to make a difference. The National Endowment for the Humanities has a bold new vision focused on expanding its reach and funding organizations it hasn't supported in the past. This drive towards Native American education comes at a pivotal m...2024-08-2232 min
What's Your Why?The Evolution of Young Adult Literature and Representation with Traci JonesIt's almost like someone telling you that your child is wrong - I mean, she'd be really perfect if you would just change her hair and add some freckles and then make her taller. - Traci Jones Traci Jones, an accomplished young adult novelist, brings a unique blend of creativity and insight to her writing, enriching the literary landscape with diverse representation. With a background in psychology and a master's degree in advertising, Traci's unconventional journey to becoming an author reflects her ability to weave compelling narratives. Her genuine passion for writing for the average African American f...2024-07-1838 min
Winds Of ChangeBridging Past and Future: Celebrating Jeremy Johnston's LegacyDiscover the story of Jeremy Johnston, Wyoming historian and teacher, and the impact he had on the state's history and culture. His unique upbringing and deep connection to Wyoming shaped his passion for preserving the past and understanding the complexities of the state's heritage. My special guest is Jeremy Johnston Jeremy Johnston, a highly regarded historian from Park County, Wyoming, established himself as a leading figure in the preservation and dissemination of Wyoming's rich history. Born and raised in Powell, Wyoming, Jeremy's formative years were shaped by the proximity and influence of his grandparents and g...2024-06-2712 minWinds Of ChangeBridging Past and Future: Celebrating Jeremy Johnston's LegacyDiscover the story of Jeremy Johnston, Wyoming historian and teacher, and the impact he had on the state's history and culture. His unique upbringing and deep connection to Wyoming shaped his passion for preserving the past and understanding the complexities of the state's heritage. My special guest is Jeremy Johnston Jeremy Johnston, a highly regarded historian from Park County, Wyoming, established himself as a leading figure in the preservation and dissemination of Wyoming's rich history. Born and raised in Powell, Wyoming, Jeremy's formative years were shaped by the proximity and influence of his grandparents and g...2024-06-2712 min
Winds Of ChangeEmbracing Identity: Aiden Thomas on Writing Trans and Latinx CharactersMy focus is always on my readers and the people who are impacted by not having those stories. So it's young folks and it's folks who are trans and queer and who are, you know, marginalized or brown, black, Bipoc. - Aiden Thomas My special guest is Aiden Thomas Aiden Thomas is a New York Times bestselling author and a prominent figure in young adult literature. Their expertise lies in crafting narratives that authentically represent the intersection of gender identity and cultural diversity. Aiden's notable work, particularly the acclaimed novel "Cemetery Boys," has garnered widespread...2024-04-2541 minWinds Of ChangeEmbracing Identity: Aiden Thomas on Writing Trans and Latinx CharactersMy focus is always on my readers and the people who are impacted by not having those stories. So it's young folks and it's folks who are trans and queer and who are, you know, marginalized or brown, black, Bipoc. - Aiden Thomas My special guest is Aiden Thomas Aiden Thomas is a New York Times bestselling author and a prominent figure in young adult literature. Their expertise lies in crafting narratives that authentically represent the intersection of gender identity and cultural diversity. Aiden's notable work, particularly the acclaimed novel "Cemetery Boys," has garnered widespread...2024-04-2541 min
What's Your Why?Sleepless Nights, Epic Road Trips, and the Magic of Books: A Conversation with Mason EngelI had become a writer. The habit had stuck, and I fell in love with books and reading and writing, and the rest of the path unfurled from there. - Mason Engel Discover the epic journey of Mason Engel, who embarked on a mind-blowing adventure to all 50 states in just 50 days, to read 50 books and interview 50 authors. Whoa! Imagine the day to day of meeting fascinating authors, navigating through time changes and road challenges, and learning the heartwarming stories of small-town America. Hear Mason’s perspective on storytelling and the human connection. This a super fun and ca...2024-04-0435 min
Winds Of ChangeExploring the Allure of Cowboy Culture and Identity In WyomingI really long to, through my work, develop the sense that culture is everywhere. And you get to celebrate yourself through art and your people through art and your place through art. And that is what it's all about. You don't have to go somewhere else for that. It's already here. It's already with us. - Grace Cannon Are you intrigued by the impact of cowboy culture and the Wyoming identity? Do you embrace a certain cowboy lifestyle to connect with your roots, or feel disconnected and unsure of its authenticity? If you've grappled with the stereotypes...2024-03-2339 minWinds Of ChangeExploring the Allure of Cowboy Culture and Identity In WyomingI really long to, through my work, develop the sense that culture is everywhere. And you get to celebrate yourself through art and your people through art and your place through art. And that is what it's all about. You don't have to go somewhere else for that. It's already here. It's already with us. - Grace Cannon Are you intrigued by the impact of cowboy culture and the Wyoming identity? Do you embrace a certain cowboy lifestyle to connect with your roots, or feel disconnected and unsure of its authenticity? If you've grappled with the stereotypes...2024-03-2339 min
Winds Of ChangeRural Wyoming Museums: Preserving Heritage & HistoryOur mission is to cultivate a rich educational space for the diverse international community served by and rooted in the American western legacy of Cheyenne Frontier Days. - Morgan Marks Just because you aren't the president of the United States or not someone important in the state doesn't mean your history isn't important. It built this state, it built this community, and it's a legacy for the rest of the people who come after us. - Karina Ike It's really helpful for us in our research and in figuring out different histories. And then it's...2024-02-2943 minWinds Of ChangeRural Wyoming Museums: Preserving Heritage & HistoryOur mission is to cultivate a rich educational space for the diverse international community served by and rooted in the American western legacy of Cheyenne Frontier Days. - Morgan Marks Just because you aren't the president of the United States or not someone important in the state doesn't mean your history isn't important. It built this state, it built this community, and it's a legacy for the rest of the people who come after us. - Karina Ike It's really helpful for us in our research and in figuring out different histories. And then it's...2024-02-2943 min
Winds Of ChangeRod Miller: The Constant Force of Change in the Cowboy StateThe Constant Force of Change in the Cowboy State “The economic profile of Wyoming will change like everything else in the state has changed, and it will not be because of things we have done as Wyomingites. The economic life of Wyoming will change because of the marketplace, because of risk cap being put to work in Wyoming and returning a reward.” - Rod Miller Hey, Wyoming residents! Ever wondered what a columnist born into a ranching family since 1867 has to say about change and identity in Wyoming? We unravel some informative insights of columnist Rod M...2024-02-1526 minWinds Of ChangeRod Miller: The Constant Force of Change in the Cowboy StateThe Constant Force of Change in the Cowboy State “The economic profile of Wyoming will change like everything else in the state has changed, and it will not be because of things we have done as Wyomingites. The economic life of Wyoming will change because of the marketplace, because of risk cap being put to work in Wyoming and returning a reward.” - Rod Miller Hey, Wyoming residents! Ever wondered what a columnist born into a ranching family since 1867 has to say about change and identity in Wyoming? We unravel some informative insights of columnist Rod M...2024-02-1526 min
What's Your Why?The Evolution of an Environmentalist: From Counterinsurgency to Anti-Poaching: Damien ManderThe Evolution of an Environmentalist: From Counterinsurgency to Anti-Poaching: Damien Mander "If we don't protect it, there's going to be nothing left. This is our backyard. There's a responsibility upon all of us to look after nature in whatever way we can." - Damien Mander Discover the remarkable journey of a former special operations sniper who transitioned from a life of combat to becoming the founder and CEO of the International Antipoaching Foundation. From the intensity of military operations in Iraq to the African wilderness, Damien Mander's transformation will leave you inspired. But that's not the end...2024-02-0115 min
What's Your Why?Tanner Dunn: Overcoming Challenges and Pursuing Artistic Dreams“Just treat people the same way you treat anyone else. Don't just assume something about someone and just truly see them for what they can become.” - Tanner Dunn In this episode of What's Your Why? hosted by Emy Digrappa, our guest Tanner Dunn, a photographer and musician with autism, shares his journey from capturing nature's beauty to aspiring to be part of his first ever photography art exhibit. Tanner's determination to achieve his artistic aspirations while emphasizing the importance of treating everyone with respect and empathy makes this an episode of true inspiration and finding your path...2023-12-1417 min
What's Your Why?Reclaiming Sacred Spaces: The Importance of Native Identity in Yellowstone"There are many layers of tradition that people carry with them and their families and their communities." - Shane Doyle In this episode we talk with Dr. Shane Doyle, a Montana-based scholar, teacher, and community advocate whose work focuses on the history and heritage of Native American tribes of the Northern Great Plains. Growing up on the reservation, he experienced the rich oral traditions, history, and culture of his community. His native roots inspire him to teach the importance and appreciation for the heritage and traditions of Native American cultures. As he delves into the complexities of i...2023-11-3044 min
What's Your Why?The Role of Buffalo in Native American Cultural Revitalization with Jason Baldes"The buffalo is still central to our lifeways, our spirituality, our ceremonies, but has been missing for over 130 years. Bringing them back is integral to our healing from atrocities and the restoration of our cultural value." - Jason Baldes Jason Baldes, an Eastern Shoshone and member of the Inter Tribal Buffalo Council, joins us on this episode of What's Your Why? to discuss his work in restoring buffalo to tribal lands. With a background in biology and a deep respect for the natural world, Jason has dedicated himself to bringing buffalo back to the Wind River Indian...2023-11-0924 min
What's Your Why?Finding Inspiration and Purpose: Bonnie Wan“Action is a byproduct of clarity. When you know what you want and where you're going, it's easier to make decisions, take action, and let your intuition and instincts guide you.” - Bonnie Wan In this episode of the podcast What's Your Why?, you'll hear from Bonnie Wan, a strategist, author, and speaker, as she shares her insights on the power of creating a life brief. Bonnie's expertise as the head of brand strategy at an advertising agency shines through as she discusses her role in creating the iconic Got Milk? campaign and tackling important social issues thro...2023-10-1949 min
Winds Of ChangeRevolutionizing the Symphony: William Intriligator on Engaging New Audiences“The whole idea of orchestral music being something that people come back to time and again to become enriched and inspired and entertained.” -William Intriligator In the world of music, a symphony orchestra holds the power to transport us to extraordinary realms of emotion and wonder. But what if I told you that behind the captivating melodies and harmonies lies an unexpected twist that forever changed the course of one man's life? Picture this: a young graduate student, eager to explore the depths of musical expression, crosses paths with a mentor who unknowingly ignites a flame within him...2023-10-1627 minWinds Of ChangeRevolutionizing the Symphony: William Intriligator on Engaging New Audiences“The whole idea of orchestral music being something that people come back to time and again to become enriched and inspired and entertained.” -William Intriligator In the world of music, a symphony orchestra holds the power to transport us to extraordinary realms of emotion and wonder. But what if I told you that behind the captivating melodies and harmonies lies an unexpected twist that forever changed the course of one man's life? Picture this: a young graduate student, eager to explore the depths of musical expression, crosses paths with a mentor who unknowingly ignites a flame within him...2023-10-1627 min
Winds Of ChangeHow Downtown Preservation Drives Economic Growth with Chad BanksHave you heard these common myths about the importance of downtowns and cultural centers in community preservation? Myth #1: Downtown revitalization is only for big cities. Myth #2: Cultural centers are just for entertainment and not essential for the community. Myth #3: Investing in downtown revitalization is a waste of resources. In this episode, our guest Chad Banks sheds light on the significance of downtowns and cultural centers in community preservation. Host Emy DiGrappa and co-host Lucas Fralick engage in conversation with Chad Banks, Director, Rock Springs Main Street/Urban Renewal Agency. They discuss the critical role of downtowns and...2023-09-2823 minWinds Of ChangeHow Downtown Preservation Drives Economic Growth with Chad BanksHave you heard these common myths about the importance of downtowns and cultural centers in community preservation? Myth #1: Downtown revitalization is only for big cities. Myth #2: Cultural centers are just for entertainment and not essential for the community. Myth #3: Investing in downtown revitalization is a waste of resources. In this episode, our guest Chad Banks sheds light on the significance of downtowns and cultural centers in community preservation. Host Emy DiGrappa and co-host Lucas Fralick engage in conversation with Chad Banks, Director, Rock Springs Main Street/Urban Renewal Agency. They discuss the critical role of downtowns and...2023-09-2823 min
What's Your Why?The Power of Unity: Ashleigh Chapman's Call to Action Against Human TraffickingIt's the worst evil on the planet. It's the worst kind of exploitation of the vulnerable populations, and it's everywhere. - Ashleigh Chapman Welcome, Ashleigh Chapman, a truly remarkable advocate in the fight against human trafficking. Ashleigh’s journey began as a child, providing a safe haven to three abused children, which sparked a lifetime dedication to the cause. She has since tirelessly worked to institute change, earning her recognition from USA Today as one of their Women of the Year in 2022. As a human rights lawyer and founder of the Alliance for Freedom, Restoration and Justice, As...2023-09-2124 min
What's Your Why?Finding Inspiration and Nurturing Personal Growth: Insights from Joanna KailWe need to encourage women to take a deep dive into their passions and break free from societal labels. We can conquer any field and be successful. - Joanna Kail For Joanna Kail, her journey began with an instilled Wyoming pride and a natural affinity for communication. Born and raised in Lander, she was influenced by the close-knit community and the one-degree separation that tightly binds Wyomingites together. Her initial dream was to work for the State Department, a dream inspired by her desire to represent America globally. However, the realization of her natural communication skills steered...2023-09-0722 min
Winds Of ChangePioneering Wildlife Viewing: Challenges and Triumphs with Tom Segerstrom‘We were modeling appropriate ecotourism and making sure that the monies generated hired local people, bought local products, and stayed in local hotels, all to keep the money in Wyoming.’ - Tom Segerstrom Tom Segerstrom had a lifelong desire to forge a bond between man and wildlife. Born and raised in the suburbs of Minneapolis, an early obsession with wildlife led him to major in Montana State University. His passion for wildlife spilled over into his career with Wyoming Game and Fish Department. Despite the success, something didn't sit right with Tom. He noticed a widening gap betw...2023-08-2430 minWinds Of ChangePioneering Wildlife Viewing: Challenges and Triumphs with Tom Segerstrom‘We were modeling appropriate ecotourism and making sure that the monies generated hired local people, bought local products, and stayed in local hotels, all to keep the money in Wyoming.’ - Tom Segerstrom Tom Segerstrom had a lifelong desire to forge a bond between man and wildlife. Born and raised in the suburbs of Minneapolis, an early obsession with wildlife led him to major in Montana State University. His passion for wildlife spilled over into his career with Wyoming Game and Fish Department. Despite the success, something didn't sit right with Tom. He noticed a widening gap betw...2023-08-2430 min
What's Your Why?Celebrating Diversity: The Inspiring Story of Ivan McClellan and Black Cowboy CultureStep into a world where cowboy culture meets an unseen community, a world that will leave you captivated and yearning for more. Ivan McClellan, a self-taught photographer, learned about the existence of black cowboys and black cowboy rodeos and embarked on a journey that defied his expectations. From the dusty rodeos of Oklahoma to the heart and soul of a culture unknown to many, Ivan's immersion into this world will leave you wanting to learn more. But little did he know, this was just the beginning of a chapter filled with untold stories and new life experiences. ...2023-08-1731 min
What's Your Why?Patricia McInroy: The Storytelling Art of FIlmmakingPatricia McInroy, a filmmaker, is a former photojournalist who grew up in Wyoming and graduated from Casper College in 1989. After graduating from the University of Missouri, she returned to Wyoming to work as a photographer for the Casper Star-Tribune in the 1990s. After more than 10 years in the newspaper business, she went back to school to earn an MFA from Vermont College of Fine Arts. To date, Patricia has screened her video work in more than 30 film festivals across the United States, Europe, and Latin America. In 2017, her documentary, Clara: Angel of the Rockies aired nationally on Public Broadcasting...2022-08-3123 min
First, But Last?Rebekah Smith: An Authentic and Adventurous Voice For Wyoming WomenRebekah Smith talks about the Wyoming Women's Foundation mission, why economic self-sufficiency is important for women, and why there aren't many prominent female hunters. "A lot of people have a personal experience with someone that inspires them to want to help make change in the state for women." - Rebekah Smith Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/first-but-last/rebekah-smith2021-05-2733 min
First, But Last?Jessica Bolerjack: Oil & Gas Land Representative And Successful Rodeo CompetitorJessica Bolerjack discusses why it's such an exciting time to be a woman in rodeo and what it's like being a female in the oil and gas industry. "I've always worked in fields that were predominantly male-dominated and you have to know your stuff and you have to stand up for yourself." - Jessica Bolerjack. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/first-but-last/jessica-bolerjack2021-03-1127 min
First, But Last?Cecilia Aragon: How My Latina And Navajo Roots Inspire My WorkDr. Cecelia Aragon talks about founding her own bilingual theater company, which topics are covered in her theater diversity course, and the challenges faced by many first-generation American students who were born in Mexico. "Wyoming has really missed an opportunity to really engage with the growing Latino population in the state." - Dr. Cecelia Aragon Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at https://thinkwy.org/first-but-last/cecelia-aragon2021-01-2841 min
First, But Last?Lynnette Grey Bull: First Native American Woman From Wyoming To Run For US CongressLynnette Grey Bull discusses why she moved to a reservation in Wyoming, what inspired her to run for public office, and her work curbing the human trafficking of native women in the United States. "Humility should be the center of leadership." - Lynnette Grey Bull Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/55 2021-01-1434 min
First, But Last?Tara Nethercott: The Strength Of Our State Is Our PeopleState senator Tara Nethercott discusses the ways that COVID-19 has affected Wyoming, why she decided to pursue law, and the values of her fellow Wyomingites. "Rural America needs to recognize what rural America is." - Tara Nethercott Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/54 2020-12-1826 min
First, But Last?Carla Mowell: Explores People And Cultures Of The WestCarla Mowell discusses the experience of growing up between two cultures, challenges for Spanish-speaking children in the U.S., and why she ultimately became an educator. "Colorful characters are kind of our specialty." - Carla Mowell Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/53 2020-12-1427 min
First, But Last?Mary Burman: Passion And Dedication To Make A Difference In HealthcareMary Burman discusses why she works in preventative health, how to remove gender bias from healthcare, and the value of individual and societal policy intervention. "Our healthcare is way more costly, it is profoundly inequitably distributed, and we have poorer outcomes than any other developed country in the world." - Mary Burman Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/522020-11-1234 min
First, But Last?Susan Simpson: Serving My State And Your Responsibility To VoteSusan Simpson discusses the role of libraries in a healthy democracy, how politics is like sausage making, and why women don't run for office, they have to be asked. "There is so much to learn running for office, and so to do that and to have a job and to have a family is really challenging." - Susan Simpson Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/512020-11-0429 min
First, But Last?Michelle Sullivan: Living Intentionally, Advocating For Youth & Loving WyomingMichelle Sullivan discusses latchkey kids, who inspires her, and how to promote women in Wyoming. “Solutions are always better with a broader set of perspectives at the table.” - Michelle Sullivan Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/502020-10-2228 min
First, But Last?Anne Mason: Taking Risks & Building Community Through The ArtsAnne Mason discusses the value of the arts, the theater scene in Wyoming, and how theater supports the #MeToo movement. "Theater is a driving tool for society and has the ability to build community." - Anne Mason Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/492020-10-0831 min
First, But Last?Dr. Sandy Caldwell: The Power Of Believing In YourselfDr. Sandy Caldwell discusses the value of rural-based community college, what it's like to grow up on a reservation, and how education is linked to income. "It's very important that we broaden what we mean by the definition of going to college." - Dr. Sandy Caldwell Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/482020-09-2428 min
First, But Last?Nicole Hauser: Opening Her Arms Wide To Build Hope After TraumaNicole Hauser discusses the Cathedral Home for Children, why she wanted to be a social worker, and how to talk about sex with your children. "I swear we learn more from the kids than we can ever impart on them." - Nicole Hauser Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/472020-09-1731 min
First, But Last?Katie Hogarty: Gratitude Unlocks the Fullness of LifeKatie Hogarty discusses her passion for policy work, how foster care differs from adoption, and what it's like to grow up dyslexic. "I have this whole beautiful community of people that have helped me end up where I am." - Katie Hogarty Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/462020-09-1024 min
First, But Last?Cynthia Chace Gray: Wyoming's Incredible Elements That Link Communities TogetherCynthia Chace Gray explains how she ended up in Wyoming, the photographers that inspire her, and how to accommodate women in the state legislature. "Wyoming to me is the place where I feel most connected to the Divine that is out there." - Cynthia Chace Gray Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/452020-09-0326 min
First, But Last?Marcia Hensley: The Legacy Of Single Women HomesteadersListen in to hear Marcia Hensley discuss her favorite characters in her book, why there aren't any failure stories of female pioneers, and why it was difficult for her to get her book published. “You admire that kind of adventuresome spirit and I think it takes that kind of adventuresome spirit -- no matter what walk of life you're in -- to have a fulfilling life.” - Marcia Hensley Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/442020-07-2019 min
First, But Last?Melissa Turley: Inspiring Leadership and Mentorship in Girls and Women of All AgesMelissa Turley discusses the benefits of mentoring younger women, why fewer women are in local government in Wyoming, and how to make state legislature more representative of residents. "Had I not already been in office, it would've been really difficult for me to take on a campaign with a young son." - Melissa Turley Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/432020-06-1120 min
First, But Last?Joanna Kail: Continue Encouraging Our Young Girls To Be CourageousListen in to Joanna Kail discuss why public media is important, what the Wyoming PBS Foundation does, and what keeps women out of politics. “Wyoming has just such an incredible pride and camaraderie and support for one another.” - Joanna Kail Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/422020-06-0421 min
First, But Last?Sue Sommers: Reflections On Women, Art And The Creative EconomySue Sommers explains why she calls herself a contemporary artist, how to define book art, and ways to support women in politics in Wyoming. "When women are doing well, a society does well." - Sue Sommers Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/412020-04-2820 min
First, But Last?Kayne Pyatt: From Cinderella Complex To Feminist IndependenceListen in to learn why Kayne Pyatt's role model is her mother, how things have changed for women over the years, and how to educate young women about suffrage and women's rights. "I get frustrated with the lack of knowledge that most young women have about where we -- me and my foremothers -- came through to get them what they have today." - Kayne Pyatt Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at thinkwy.org/first-but-last/kayne-pyatt/2020-04-0323 min
First, But Last?Britney Wallesch: On The Forefront Of Animal Advocacy And Working To Support Women In LeadershipBritney Wallesch discusses the arguments for and against no-kill shelters, how the state can protect animal rights, and why there are so few women in the Wyoming Legislature. “It is important when you're doing advocacy work to go to the place where policy is made and speak on behalf of the constituents that you represent." - Britney Wallesch Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/392020-03-2526 min
First, But Last?Heather Fleming: The Social And Economic Impact Of Reading Failure In ChildrenHeather Fleming explains why she started WY Lit, the consequences of illiteracy, and how to apply evidence-based reading instruction in the classroom. "I didn't want to see other children struggle the way mine had." - Heather Fleming. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/382020-02-1923 min
First, But Last?Arielle Zibrak: On American Women Writers, Gender & SexualityArielle Zibrak explains how homosexuality written about in the 19th and 20th centuries and the biggest limitation of freedom for women in the United States. "Literature has, for a long time, been a place where women can exert an influence on society where they haven't been able to do so through explicitly political channels." - Arielle Zibrak. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/372020-02-1429 min
First, But Last?Jennie Gordon: Getting To Know Wyoming's First LadyListen to today's episode to learn how Jennie Gordon reaches her audience, how it feels to be a public figure, and why child hunger is so important to her. "Wyoming can do so many things that other big states with a lot of bureaucracy can't do." - Jennie Gordon. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/36.2020-02-0516 min
First, But Last?Robin Sessions Cooley: Change Begins Outside Your Comfort ZoneIn this episode, Robin talks about the impact that working in local government has had on her life, her advice for young women who want to go into politics, and why the people in the Workforce Services Office are the best thing about the job. "Ït's incredible where women are going in Wyoming." - Robin Sessions Cooley Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/35.2020-01-0720 min
First, But Last?Mary Guthrie: Women Who Changed The Course Of History In WyomingMary Guthrie talks about her motivation to go back to school at 36, the people who mentored her, and the delights and challenges of writing a screenplay. "It doesn't hurt for the state to be much smaller because it does give people opportunities that otherwise you might not have." - Mary Guthrie Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/34.2019-12-1321 min
First, But Last?Renee Laegried: The Right To Vote Was Their Most Radical Demand!Historian Renee Laegried explains why Wyoming was the first state to give women the right to vote and how gender equality in Wyoming has evolved since then. "Unless people start supporting women, it's going to be hard for them to be more engaged." - Renee Laegried Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/332019-12-1118 min
First, But Last?Jen Simon: Creates Awareness, Compassion and Economic Self-Sufficiency for Wyoming WomenJen Simon tells us about her journey to Wyoming, what led her to fight for women’s rights, and her thoughts on gender discrimination in the Equality State. “The Wyoming Women’s Community Action Network really exists to try and make sure that we continue to move the needle, continue to move forward, and get people in the Equality State to understand the real benefits that women bring.” - Jen Simon Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/322019-11-2014 min
First, But Last?Dr. Gigi Jasper: Discusses Her Views on Being African American And Racial Equality In WyomingDr. Gigi Jasper discusses her experience with discrimination as an African American woman living and teaching in rural Wyoming. "I am the exception because I have had hundreds of students who now know me and not just what they think they know when they see me for the first time." - Gigi Jasper Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/302019-11-1523 min
First, But Last?Caroline Mills: Educator and Eastern Shoshone Tribe Member on the Wind River ReservationEducator Caroline Mills talks about the time she met Fidel Castro and how she imparts her wisdom to the young people on the Wind River Reservation. “I think it’s important to be available, be accessible, and talk to anybody, and encourage them– because young people need to shoot for the stars and follow their dreams.” – Caroline Mills on mentorship. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/302019-10-2427 min
First, But Last?Nish Goicolea: Embracing Change And Challenges In Wyoming EducationHear about Nish Goicolea's triligual childhood home, her thoughts on the #metoo movement, and her vision for education in Wyoming. “Maybe I didn't have exactly the same opportunities as some of the men in my life, but because of education, I had even more.” – Nish Goicolea. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/292019-10-1818 min
First, But Last?Maggi Murdock: Caring For Each Student Creates Passion For LearningDr. Maggi Murdock tells us about her journey back to Wyoming, her career as a college professor, and her thoughts on gender discrimination. “When we all are treated equally, that helps the whole society.” – Maggi Murdock. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/282019-10-0322 min
What's Your Why?The Afterlife of German Coal Mining And The Future Of Green JobsThis interview is part of the Global Speaker Series. A podcast partnership between the Wyoming Humanities (ThinkWY.org) and the Jackson Hole Center for Global Affairs (www.jhcga.org). With the goal of educating and inspiring listeners, the series interviews global thought leaders on relevant issues impacting Wyoming and the world such as the future of energy, the impacts of climate change, trends in business and entrepreneurship, foreign policy, issues impacting global coal communities, and more. Jürgen Kretschmann , German economist and university president discusses the future of coal energy in Germany. Born and raised in Gelsenkirchen, Jürgen Kr...2019-09-2415 min
First, But Last?Bobbie Birleffi: EMMY-Award Winning Producer/Director With Wyoming RootsProducer/Director Bobbie Birleffi discusses the people who influenced her to become a filmmaker and how the #metoo movement has personally impacted her. “People are starting to use words like ‘misogyny’. If you had used that word ten years ago, you would have been labeled as a radical crazy.” – Bobbie Birleffi. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/272019-09-1917 min
First, But Last?Jennifer Wilmetti: Creating Awareness and Paths of Opportunity for Women in WyomingEmy and Jennifer Wilmetti discuss the top women's issues in Wyoming as well as why mentorship is key in encouraging more women to run for public office. “When you compare apples to apples, rather than apples to oranges, it’s not that women are not taking those more dangerous jobs, it’s that even in jobs in the same sector, they’re being paid less [than men].” – Jennifer Wilmetti. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/262019-08-2921 min
First, But Last?Tara Baker: Sexual Harassment in the Wildland Firefighting CommunitiesHear about Tara Baker's experience with sexual harassment as a wildland firefighter and how the #metoo movement encouraged her to speak up. “Having come out and told some stories publicly about the sexual harassment in the forest service, I came to this place where I really had to own my opinion about that and I had to own my voice. I feel like I really had to decide what I believed. And I think once you go through that process, you stop caring so much about how people could judge you.” – Tara Baker. Learn more about...2019-08-1622 min
First, But Last?Diane Shober: A Woman With A Passion And Purpose For WyomingDiane Shober talks about the fight for gender equality in Wyoming, how to mentor young women, and why the tourism industry is an ideal place for women. "The barriers of life that sometimes constrict and confine us– when you're outside and in these beautiful wide open spaces, you don't have those kinds of restrictions." – Diane Shober. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/242019-07-2821 min
First, But Last?Audrey Cotherman: 89, A Wyoming Writer And Voice Of Wisdom And HumorWriter Audrey Cotherman talks about gender discrimination in government and how she became the first executive director of Wyoming Humanities. “I was not, nor am I inclined to this day, to march. I suppose it really does draw attention to things, but I’m not sure that it changes things. I think to change something takes a lot of relationship building and determination and that it’s a very gradual process.” – Audrey Cotherman. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/232019-07-1821 min
First, But Last?Natalia Duncan Macker: On The Convergence Of Arts And PoliticsTeton County Commissioner Natalia Duncan Macker talks about why women and artists are uniquely suited for serving in local government. “More artists getting involved in government across our country is vitally important because artists are good problem solvers and creative thinkers. I hope more artists will decide that they can put the way their brain works to work to solve the problems we are facing in our society.” – Natalia Duncan Macker. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/222019-07-1019 min
First, But Last?Mandy Fabel: Embracing Challenges, Change And Leadership In WyomingLeadership Wyoming Executive Director Mandy Fabel talks about what intrigues her about Wyoming as well as why Wyoming is opportunity-rich for women. “The women I am surrounded by in my own life are very strong, very capable, very hard-working women and often we choose to live in Wyoming because we want to be here, not because it's the most convenient for our career or our family.” – Mandy Fabel. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/212019-07-0319 min
First, But Last?Clarene Law: Self-Made Business Woman Who Leads With Her HeartHear about how Clarene Law started her hotel business, her favorite legislation from her time as a legislator, and the challenges that Wyoming women face. “We had opportunity in those times. The town was growing and anybody willing to work hard could grow with the town.” – Clarene Law. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/202019-06-2617 min
First, But Last?Mariann Foster: Making a Life, Not a Living: A Single Mom's JourneyHear from Mariann Foster about how she made her way out west, how she became a fiber artist, and how she strives to be a role model for her daughter. “Trying to be a good role model is the biggest thing. You can tell kids things but if they see it, it’s going to mean something more to them.” – Mariann Foster. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/192019-06-1913 min
First, But Last?Justice Marilyn Kite: Wyoming’s First Female Supreme Court JusticeWyoming's first female Supreme Court Justice, Marilyn Kite talks about why so few women serve in the Wyoming state government. “Lots of times we had [judicial] openings and no women applicants or no women applicants who had the number of years of experience that they needed to qualify. So, the field isn’t big enough! I’m hoping more women will think of it as a professional goal and put themselves out there because we can’t select them unless they apply!” – Justice Marilyn Kite Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.2019-06-1616 min
First, But Last?Kristen Czaban: Publisher and Tenacious Journalist Believes In Community And Empowering WomenSheridan Press publisher Kristen Czaban weighs in on whether or not Wyoming still deserves to be called the "Equality Sate". “Print news, by its nature, takes a little longer to be out in front of people. I think taking that breath before something is in print allows print journalists to avoid the sensationalism that happens in other mediums.” – Kristen Czaban. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/172019-06-1217 min
First, But Last?Sarah Jo Sinclair: #METOO Movement Is An Opportunity For Coversations To Talk About Experiences Women Have Had For GenerationsEmy and Sarah Jo Sinclair discuss the differences in how men and women are treated in higher education, how Sarah discusses the #metoo movement with her kids and her students, and why people in Wyoming think of "feminist" as a bad word. “I feel the slow and steady need for continued work on women's issues and finding an equal or at least equitable spot in the workforce, within state politics, within leadership in communities.” – Sarah Jo Sinclair. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/162019-06-0916 min
First, But Last?Laura Griffith: Reality And Hope In Addiction Recovery And The Many Pathways To HealingTune in to hear why Laura Griffith founded Recover Wyoming, how addiction is different for women and men, and Laura’s own story of addiction and recovery. “We all need to be engaged– we all need to change the conversation about addiction and to create a culture of recovery.” – Laura Griffith. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/152019-06-0524 min
First, But Last?Sara Burlingame: An Open Mind Leads to Civil Conversations Even When We Can't AgreeHear how Sara Burlingame was adopted into a tribe of Mormon feminists and why she is conflicted about calling Wyoming the equality state. “I feel very conflicted because on the one hand, I want to celebrate that Wyoming passed suffrage, but I also want to complicate that history with the reality that we did not give all women the right to vote.” – Sara Burlingame. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/142019-06-0224 min
First, But Last?Robin K. Hill, Ph.D: Wyoming Was First - Let's Not Forget It!Robin K. Hill, Ph.D. talks about how Wyoming's suffrage celebration relates to the national celebration that will take place in 2020. “[Computer Science] is a male dominated field for no good reason I can understand. I think women are perfectly well suited for it. These things do tend to take on a life of their own, so if there are a lot of men in the field, it becomes a male dominated field because others tend to follow that trend.” – Robin K. Hill. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/132019-05-2915 min
First, But Last?Kristin Wilkerson: Equality Is Not A Female Issue; It’s A Social And Economic ImperativeFinancial advisor Kristin Wilkerson explains the gender pay gap and talks about how women need to plan for retirement in light of it. “We've still got a ways to go – progress at this point seems to be slow. Right now with the rate we’re improving, the numbers say that we won’t achieve pay equity for about 40 years.” – Kristin Wilkerson. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/122019-05-2622 min
First, But Last?Sarah Sample: Singer Songwriter Talking About Purpose And WomanhoodSinger-songwriter and Wyomingite Sarah Sample sings a song from her new album, and talks about why being financially independent is essential for women. “The wide open spaces felt like open arms to me. The endless skies and horizons leave room for anyone to belong.” – Sarah Sample. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/112019-05-2222 min
First, But Last?Entrepreneur Amber Pollock: A Propensity For The UnusualHear why Amber Pollock and her family decided to found a distillery in Casper, Wyoming and learn about Amber's perspective on gender equality in Wyoming. “Examining those areas that we’re clearly falling short in is important for our state if we truly want to uphold the mantle of ‘The Equality State’.” – Amber Pollock. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/102019-05-1918 min
First, But Last?Becca Steinhoff: A Vision And Voice For Young Children In WyomingBecca Steinhoff talks about her work with Wyoming Kids First and how to get men more involved in discussions about early childhood development. “Should we just celebrate and salute the fact that we were the first [to give women the right to vote] even though we have a lot of work to do? I think there is some celebration that needs to happen there. Meanwhile, we need to not stop the work!” – Becca Steinhoff. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/092019-05-1517 min
First, But Last?Judge Nancy Guthrie: Effervescent, Ebullient And Always Has A Good Story To TellHear about Judge Nancy Guthrie's childhood in Newcastle, WY, her decision to become a lawyer and a judge, and her advice for young female lawyers. “If you ever have a dean of a law school tell you that you were taking up space a man could take up, you just smile at him and threaten him that you’ll sue him if he doesn’t let you in.” – Nancy Guthrie’s advice for young female lawyers. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/082019-05-1221 min
First, But Last?Leticia Liera: Head Start Program Director Influencing Positive Change For Young Latina WomenLety Liera migrated from Mexico City to Jackson Hole, WY in 2001. Hear her perspective on discrimination and how she is raising her son in the #metoo era. “Sometimes, I believe this American culture asks you to take sides: you’re a minority or the majority; you are a person of wealth or you are poor; black or white. I think we are much more complex than that and that’s why we don’t solve issues because they are not always one or the other.” – Leticia Liera. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www...2019-05-0819 min
First, But Last?CEO Brook Kaufman: Instigating Constructive and Meaningful ChangeLearn why CEO Brook Kaufman made Wyoming her home and what the State of Wyoming can do to attract and retain a younger population. “What I love the most about Casper and Wyoming is that there are so many opportunities to do anything you want to do here – it’s wide open. And if you believe you can do it, you absolutely can and there are people around you who will support you.” – Brook Kaufman. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/06.2019-05-0515 min
First, But Last?Dr. Susan Dewey: The Intersections Between Poverty, Violence and Women In PrisonWyoming Pathways from Prison cofounder Dr. Susan Dewey talks about her research and the challenges faced by incarcerated women in Wyoming. “No matter where they're incarcerated – in any of our 50 states or in fact in the world, these are women who have landed a little harder than the rest of us did when we made our bad choices.” – Dr. Susan Dewey. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last atwww.thinkwy.org/05.2019-05-0220 min
First, But Last?Susan Stubson: Professional Pianist, Attorney and 6th Generation WyomingiteSusan Stubson is a 6th generation Wyomingite. Tune in to hear her perspective on women's rights and humanities investment in Wyoming. “My challenge is to figure out how to be a conservative Wyoming woman yet to not diminish my strength or confuse that as a sign of weakness.” – Susan Stubson. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/04.2019-05-0119 min
First, But Last?Entrepreneur Sara Flitner: Practice Mindfulness at Home, in the Workplace, and Around the CommunityTune in to learn about Sara Flitner's life, her perspective on the challenges that women face in Wyoming, and how women can continue to strive for equality. “In all honesty, the last time we did something of note for equality in this state was about 150 years ago.” – Sara Flitner. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/032019-04-2818 min
First, But Last?Rev. Dr. Bernadine Craft: Don't Give Up on Your Dreams, the Journey is RewardingRev. Dr. Bernadine Craft discusses her experience as a Wyoming State Representative and how to get more women involved in government. “The finest people I have ever met in my life have been in Wyoming. There is something about our proud Wyoming heritage: we’re very independent, we’re very resilient.” – Rev. Dr. Bernadine Craft. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy.org/022019-04-2525 min
First, But Last?Judge Margaret McKeown: One of the Most Influential Women Lawyers in the U.S began her Career as a Trailblazing AttorneyWelcome to the first episode of First, but Last with Judge Margaret McKeown. This podcast introduces you to the creative, intrepid and influential women all across the state of Wyoming. Wyoming native Judge Margaret McKeown of the U.S. Court of Appeals talks about her career, workplace discrimination, and the state of women’s rights. “We have made enormous progress from the time when we got the vote (which was significant) to now, but we are not done!” - Judge Margaret McKeown. Learn more about this episode of First, but Last at www.thinkwy...2019-04-2332 minFirst, But Last?Welcome to First, but Last?Welcome to Wyoming Humanities | thinkWY podcast, First, but Last? This podcast introduces you to the creative, intrepid and influential women all across the state of Wyoming asking them about wisdom, work and adventure in the “equality” state. This special series celebrates Wyoming as the first state to give women the right to vote! If you enjoyed this episode, come visit us at www.thinkwy.org. There you can find all episodes, interact and discuss issues that are important, learn about our public programs, and about how to take a closer look at life.2019-04-2301 min
What's Your Why?Nina McConigley: Award-winning Author reflects on growing up in WyomingAuthor Nina McConigley discusses her family and growing up in Wyoming in a racially diverse family. Explore the humanities in Wyoming at thinkwy.org.2017-08-2512 min
What's Your Why?Welcome to What's Your Why?Introducing Wyoming Humanities new podcast “What’s Your WHY? Listen for a sneak peak on this new exciting program. We are bringing you powerful conversations with authors, journalists, philosophers, historians, scientists and many more who will tell us what their “why” is…what inspires, motivates, and makes them tick. The first episodes start Monday, July 31. Subscribe now on iTunes, Google Play, SoundCloud, or Stitcher, for more info go to thinkWY.org2017-07-1803 min