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Shouldn'ta Come
E28: Persuasive Algae
Hey Folks! This week we've pulled our normal Patreon fare over to the main feed—welcome to Shouldn'ta Said That, where we give commentary about the news. We check back in briefly with Clive before discovering Labor's persuadability metrics, and then drown in 20 metres of algae.The genocide in Gaza is still ongoing and there are innumerable people suffering unimaginable hardships. After being displaced from his home, Karam is one of many struggling to stay alive amidst Israel's continued assault. Karam and his family are seeking help with accessing food, shelter and medicine. You can learn more ab...
2025-07-22
1h 16
Shouldn'ta Come
E27: Why Do We Hate Iran Again?
Hello! Welcome back to Shouldn'ta Come, where we like to think we're the baddies, but ultimately we’re just waiting our turn, because we are, after all, all the way the fuck over here. Today, we react to how the media reacted to how our politicians reacted to Iran’s reaction to Israel’s random bombing of a bunch of houses and such. We’ll start with a broad look at how the Australian media at-large framed the initial strikes, before later diving into the ABC and Government line.The genocide in Gaza is still ongoing and there ar...
2025-07-15
1h 24
Shouldn'ta Come
E26: Who Wants to be an Australian Citizen? (It's Ciaran)
We test Ciaran's Australianness with a selection of questions from current and historical citizenship tests.If you'd like to support the show, you can do so at our Patreon! You get a bonus episode every week (or so) and you can send in questions for our mailbag.https://www.patreon.com/shouldntacomeWe'd also love to hear from you, so if there's anything you'd like to get in touch with us about, please do so at shouldntacome@gmail.com.And finally, the genocide in Gaza is still ongoing and there are...
2025-07-08
1h 02
Shouldn'ta Come
(preview) Shouldn'ta Said That 6: Hater Behaviour
Over on the Patreon, we take a look at Anthony Albanese's anti-DEI most favourite songs or whatever. We then look at how he's orchestrated the blinding of a political rival, chat about childcare and investigate the dastardly Lowy poll.We would love to have you over on the Patreon, if you'd be open to chucking us $5 a month. We're hoping to be able to dedicate more time to our little project and it'd be super helpful for things like equipment and hosting fees! You can subscribe at patreon.com/shouldntacomeXoxo Yani
2025-07-06
12 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E25: Powers for Police, Voice for Victims
After our Clive Palmer odyssey, we'll whip around some old stories. We take a look at developments in police powers in the provinces, and then peek behind the curtain of the Voice for Victims Facebook Group/Political Lobbying Group.If you'd like to support the show, you can do so at our Patreon! You get a bonus episode every week (or so) and you can send in questions for our mailbag.https://www.patreon.com/shouldntacomeWe'd also love to hear from you, so if there's anything you'd like to get in touch...
2025-07-01
1h 25
Shouldn'ta Come
(preview) Shouldn'ta Said That #6
We have a little chat about the debased reporting around a tragic family murder, and then we also talk about Israel—oh wait. Head on over to our patreon (www.patreon.com/shouldntacome) for the full episode!
2025-06-29
06 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E24: Grand Finale: Professor F Clive "Speedy" Man of "Rascal" Love Palmer, MP (The Clive & The Spurious 4)
Wow, well, I'm glad we finished this off in time for the world to end—tremendous thanks to Beth and Casey for joining us for this big one! We finally finish learning about Clive, the herald, Palmer, the Harbringer. Have you heard the heart of a heathen hollowed and hated? Well, you're going to today! Enjoy the finale of our weird month-long side-quest into this guy, Clive Palmer, the twerking billionaire.If you'd like to support the show, and we'd love if you do, check us out at our Patreon: patreon.com/shouldntacomeWant to te...
2025-06-24
1h 39
Shouldn'ta Come
(preview) Shouldn'ta Said That #5
Some more musings on the irresponsible unaccountability of the Australian armed forces, a tangent into true crime and then a little chat about Olympic Diversity.To hear the full episode, subscribe to our Patreon at https://patreon.com/shouldntacome.If you have any questions, contact us at shouldntacome@gmail.com.Xoxoxoxo Gossip Yani
2025-06-22
02 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E23: F. Clive "Beijing Drift" Palmer (The Clive & The Spurious part 3)
It's finally here! We're going to travel far away and then deep inside, taking a trip through Clive Palmer's odd relationship with the entire idea of China, and then we have a read of some of his heartfelt poetry.Thank you Casey for joining us on this episode, as well as all the help making the entire series come together.If you'd like to support the show, you can do so at our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/shouldntacomeWe'd also love to hear from you, so if there's anything you'd like to...
2025-06-17
1h 11
Shouldn'ta Come
Shouldn'ta Said That #4 (Preview)
Want to hear us sound off about the news? We're hanging out over on our Patreon, so if you want to hear more please head over there! As a preview, enjoy our conversation about our bumbling armed forces.Our patreon: www.patreon.com/shouldntacomeYou can also email us at shouldntacome@gmail.comPart 3 of the Clive Palmer series coming on Wednesday!
2025-06-15
17 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E22: Clive, Fast & Deep (The Clive & The Spurious Part 2, ft Casey & Beth)
Hello! Welcome back to Shouldn'ta Come! This is part two of the Clive Palmer story, and we're going to figure out just how fast this fucking guy is. If you can decisively pick your favourite Clive moment from this episode, let us know all about it at shouldntacome@gmail.com. You can also throw a couple bucks our way on Patreon at http://patreon.com/shouldntacomeBeth recently published an article about Social media-based diagnoses. If you're interested, please have a read over here!And finally, the genocide in Gaza is still ongoing...
2025-06-10
1h 18
Shouldn'ta Come
E21: The Clive And The Spurious (Clive Palmer part 1)
Welcome back to Shouldn'ta Come! This is part one of the Clive Palmer story, and ohmygodohmygodohmygod.... I cannot stress to you enough the insanity herein. Today we look into a bit of Clive's personal life from a young lad on the Gold Coast to I guess an older, richer lad on the Gold Coast, as well as his real estate wheelings and dealings. If you can decisively pick your favourite Clive moment from this episode, let us know all about it at shouldntacome@gmail.com. You can also throw a couple bucks our way on Patreon at...
2025-06-03
1h 07
Shouldn'ta Come
E20: Adult Crime, Adult Time, Red Fish, Blue Fish
Welcome back to Shouldn'ta Come! We continue our ongoing critical eye at the Queensland Government's rabid anti-child rhetoric and take another episode to break down some potentially misleading and spurious statistics.If you'd like to support the show, and we'd love if you do, check us out at our Patreon: patreon.com/shouldntacomeWant to tell us about your favourite youth crimes? Or your favourite youth criminals? You can email us at shouldntacome@gmail.com.The demo of Yani's new album Mostly Words I Mostly Know is up now on bandcamp: https://yanix...
2025-05-27
1h 24
Shouldn'ta Come
E:19 Penny, Passion and Principle (Part 2)
Welcome to Shouldn'ta Come! It's the long-awaited part two of our deep dive into Penny Wong. Come with us as we explore Penny's sexuality, politics and draw somewhat hopeful but vague conclusions. If you'd like to support the show, and we'd love if you do, check us out at our Patreon: patreon.com/shouldntacomeWant to tell us more about Penny Wong? Or even just another Penny you know? You can email us at shouldntacome@gmail.com. The demo of Yani's new album Mostly Words I Mostly Know is up now on bandcamp...
2025-05-20
1h 33
Shouldn'ta Come
Our May Day ParaDay
Welcome to Shouldn'ta Come! Today we bring you some interviews from Brisbane's Labour Day March - we went out to the people to get an understanding of unions in Queensland and how they feel about the recent Labor election victory. We'd also like to take this opportunity to link to an important cause:As you'll no doubt be aware, the genocide in Gaza is still ongoing, and there are innumerable people suffering unimaginable hardships. After being displaced from his home, Karam is one of many struggling to stay alive amidst Israel's continued assault. Karam and...
2025-05-16
38 min
Shouldn'ta Come
BONUS: Mostly Words I Mostly Know (Album Demo)
Hi Shouldn'ta Come fans! You were probably expecting a podcast today, and we do have a more podcasty bonus coming up later this week from the May Day March, but I (Yani) wanted to share a demo of an album I've been working on for a while. Sorry there's no proper episode this week, but I hope this makes up for it.Track Listing with Timestamps:stupid lying murmurs (00:00)sorry i never said bye (02:33)aid n abet (04:29)dimanche (06:45)drop my whip off get a new surgeon (09:37)the mystics privilege (12:31)all over the building (14:09)through the roof (16:58...
2025-05-13
25 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E18—Increasing Claims of Rising Antisemitism
Hi everybody!Today we're going to look at the Executive Council of Australian Jewry's 2024 Antisemitism report, which is at the heart of many news stories you may have seen about rising antisemitism. We'll learn what we can about the report's author, have a gander at each of their alleged cases and see if we can't just draw maybe a slightly different conclusion.If you'd like to read the ECAJ Antisemitism report yourself you can do so at that link. If you'd like to have a look at my spreadsheet and notes, you can do so...
2025-05-06
1h 35
Shouldn'ta Come
Mailbag #2: Election 2025 Special (BYE PETER)
We do another mailbag episode with some questions from our Patrons, this time about the 2025 Election!It's not that we're super excited to have more Albo, but I'm very excited to never, hopefully, deal with Peter Dutton again. One of the last few of the ScoMo diehards, Peter lost his seat amid the catastrophic Liberal party defeat to the Labor Red Wave of 2025. Damn shit's crazy.If you want to support the show, we'd love you to—chuck us some money at https://patreon.com/shouldntacomeIf you'd like to get in touch wi...
2025-05-04
24 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E17: Save Victoria Park! (Interview with Rose O'Hagan)
Hi all! We joined Rose O'Hagan of the Save Victoria Park advocacy group to talk about all of the absurdities wrapped up in the plans for construction there for the Olympics. It was super cool to hear from somebody working in the actual legal and infrastructural side of things and you'll get to hear some really pretty birds as well!Save Victoria Park: https://www.savevictoriapark.com/Instagram: @savevictoriaparkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/savevictoriaparkbarrambin/And as for us! We'd love if you could support us on Patreon, patreon.com/shouldntacome...
2025-04-29
52 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E16: Penny Wong: The Three Penny Problem (Part 1)
Welcome to Shouldn'ta Come! It's the long awaited Penny Wong episode - are you ready?? Join us on part one of this journey as we discuss and analyse three key aspects of Penny's identity: race, gender, and sexuality; and how they have shaped her political career. Questions? Comments? Sources? Contact us at shouldntacome@gmail.comLove our work and want more? Join our Patreon for exclusive episodes at https://www.patreon.com/shouldntacomeOh and we have instagram, you know, if you're into that kind of thing @shouldntacome
2025-04-22
1h 12
Shouldn'ta Come
Most Overrated Australians (of the year)
Hi all! Ciaran's in, just, so much pain, so we've recorded this episode while he reclined in bed. We went through all the winners of Australian of the Year, the (modest) highlights, the (mostly) lowlights and the reflections on what the country was trying to be at the time.We'll be back next week with our properly scripted episodes—there's two coming close to finished at once, we'll see what we do first!If you'd like to support the show, please go to www.patreon.com/shouldntacome and chuck us some money to buy, like, au...
2025-04-15
51 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E15: The Baby Never Had a Neck: Chiropractors in Australia Episode 2
Hello everybody and welcome back to Shouldn'ta Come! This week, we finish off our medium-dive into the world of Australian Chiropractic. We finish off our time with the ACCC and the hell world it portended, and meet some sneaky and potentially pernicious paediatric chiropractors.If you enjoy the show, please consider supporting us on Patreon at patreon.com/shouldntacome. You'll get access to exclusive bonus episodes and you can submit to our mailbag! You can follow us on instagram at @shouldntacome, and if you'd like to contact us directly please email shouldntacome@gmail...
2025-04-08
1h 27
Shouldn'ta Come
Mailbag #1: Pauline, Ned and SAlt
Hi everybody! Thanks for joining us for this Mailbag episode, where we answer some questions from our patrons! This week, we're talking about some old favourites—Queensland's most notorious MP ever (Pauline Hanson), Australia's most notorious bearded bushranger (Ned Kelly) and university campuses' most divisive spruikers (Socialist Alternative, or SAlt).If you'd like to ask a question for the mailbag, consider supporting us at patreon.com/shouldntacome. You can also follow us on instagram (shouldntacome) and email us at shouldntacome@gmail.com.We'll see you on Wednesday for Part 2 of our adventure into Ch...
2025-04-06
55 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E14: Chiropractors, Consumer Law and Quackery in Australia (part 1)
Hi everybody! We are back with a two-parter, about the history of Chiropractic in Australia—the controversial super-massage that is weirdly popular here! This week we're going to be covering some prehistory and early history, trying to understand why there's so many Chiros here.You'll meet DD Palmer, the ACCC and so much back pain.If you're enjoying the show and would like to support us and submit to our mailbag, you can do so at our Patreon! If you'd like to keep up with what we're doing, you can head over to ou...
2025-04-01
1h 18
Shouldn'ta Come
E13: Straya; or Symbolism, Themes , Rhetoric And 'Young' Australia
Welcome to Shouldn'ta Come! Today we are chatting about the symbolism in Australian culture from flags to Chiko Rolls. Hey did you know convicts had tattoos? Or that there are no less than fifteen national sports teams named after bouncing marsupials? Well, you do now! As always, you can contact us on shouldntacome@gmail.com and we now have an Instagram! Woah! Check us out @shouldntacome. Please enjoy the dulcet tones of our street, we live on a main road :)
2025-03-25
1h 17
Shouldn'ta Come
E13: Patreon Launch! (Shouldn'ta Said That)
Hello, welcome back to Shouldn'ta Come! This episode was recorded on our balcony, which I think we shan't be doing again—but enjoy the sounds of the road!This episode's a bit of a news roundup, we're gonna talk about this Caravan, some cops, and whether we should go to Ukraine (no).We're also launching our Patreon, which we'd love if you sign up to at patreon.com/shouldntacome For just $5 a month you'll get...let's say two bonus episodes each month? Still figuring it all out. But also you can support the sh...
2025-03-18
47 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E12: The Sydney Olympic LAMES
Hi everybody! Welcome back to Shouldn'ta come, Australia's number 1 podcast about how we shouldn't have done any of this, and all the worst bits. We're gonna talk about the Sydney Olympics today, so get ready to kill the child inside yourself, learn about the wheeling and dealing behind your favourite athletic event, and try to tune out the sounds of ex-tropical cyclone Alfred.It's been quite the week so we're not sure what next week will bring! If there's anything you'd like us to cover in particular, have any questions or want any sources, please get in...
2025-03-11
1h 04
Shouldn'ta Come
E11: From Camp Hell to Somaliberg: The 1956 Melbourne Olympics (fixed audio)
Hi everybody, and welcome back to Shouldn'ta come! We decided to take a trip down memory lane to the Melbourne 1956 Olympics, and also do a little bit of true crime while we were at it. Tune in to learn about the Brownout Strangler, wonky housing policy and sports!Thank you to Simon for help editing this episode! You can find him at @bowertothebeople on Instagram and Bluesky.For questions, comments, and sources you can contact shouldntacome@gmail.com.
2025-03-04
51 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E11: From Camp Hell to Somaliberg: The 1956 Melbourne Olympics
Hi everybody, and welcome back to Shouldn'ta come! We decided to take a trip down memory lane to the Melbourne 1956 Olympics, and also do a little bit of true crime while we were at it. Tune in to learn about the Brownout Strangler, wonky housing policy and sports!If you're listening to this, and it sounds weirdly quiet—it's because Yani uploaded the wrong version! I've put the correct one up now, but it might take some time to update. Thank you to Simon for help editing this episode! You can find him at @bowertothebeople on...
2025-03-04
51 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E10: The Zionist Trolling of the Bankstown Nurses
Welcome to Shouldn’ta Come! Today we are having a look at the Israel-Palestine War, its impact in Australian culture, and the nature of propaganda - things we are super qualified to talk about, pinky-promise!!In particular we’ll focus on controversy surrounding two nurses from Bankstown-Lidcombe Hospital and the influencer that published the whole thing - Max Veifer. For questions, comments, and sources you can contact shouldntacome@gmail.com
2025-02-25
1h 05
Shouldn'ta Come
E9: K'gari: No One's Making You (Din)Go
Welcome to Shouldn'ta Come! Today's subject comes to you from a little island just north of the Sunshine Coast, coordinates 25°14'58.9"S 153°09'58.7"E. One of UNESCO's World Heritage Sites, a tourist hotspot, and the home of an endemic group of "omg are those dogs?!". The custodians of the land call it K'gari, and if you call it anything else the custodians of this podcast will call you A Piece Of Shit. Thank you to our guest (??omg??) Simon for joining us - you can follow him on @bowertothebeople on Instagram and Bluesky. As...
2025-02-18
58 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E8: The Other Katters (Bob's Your Uncle)
Welcome back to Shouldn'ta Come! Today we're taking a trip through the Katter Dynasty in Australia, starting all the way back in the 1890s to now. We'll be discussing such notable Katterites like Carl Katter, Bob Katter (not that one), Carl Katter (not that that one), and Robbie Katter (the only Robert who doesn't go by Bob). Have you ever wondered what kind of family created one of the most memeable politicians of all time? Well, wonder no longer! Get in touch with us at shouldntacome@gmail.com for sources, questions or just a little...
2025-02-11
1h 15
Shouldn'ta Come
E7: Bandt To The Future (pt 2)
Welcome to Shouldn'ta Come! Its the second, and final, instalment on DOCTOR Adam Bandt. He's a fully-fledged pollie now, but can his Green New Deals save us from ourselves? I'm reaching out to Bob Brown's famous dead aliens through a charming little billiard... "Better not tell you now". Hmmm, guess we'll have to wait and see! Contact us at shouldntacome@gmail.com if you'd like links to sources, share any Bandter, or get in touch. Thanks again to the invaluable Simon for help editing this episode!
2025-02-04
1h 14
Shouldn'ta Come
E6: The Incredible Bandt: Lean, Green, Socialist Machine
Welcome to Shouldn'ta Come! Today we are looking at our greenest subject ever - Adam Bandt. Social Justice Warrior? Climate Crusader? GREEN GUERILLA??? Let's explore the origin story of Adam Bandt from lefty youth to lefty old. Have YOU read Adam's thesis? Spill the tea pleeeease. Thank you to Simon for his help editing this episode! Sources: Ask Yani, lol.
2025-01-28
56 min
Shouldn'ta Come
News Round-up 1: Teal Independents and Gina's Big Party
Welcome to Shouldn'ta Come! Today is a quick and dirty episode on what's going on with the 'Teal' independents as well as a check-in with whatever Gina Rinehart's up to. Next week we'll be back to usual - hope you're ready for some high quality Bandt-er. Main Sources:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jan/12/teal-independents-australian-federal-election-2025https://www.atlasiron.com.au/gina-rinehart-shines-at-the-gala-for-australias-national-mining-day-2024-industry-leaders-rally-behind-fossil-fuels-and-critique-renewables/
2025-01-21
49 min
Shouldn'ta Come
E5 David 'Kids-Are-Fulli' Criminally Responsible
Welcome back to Shouldn'ta Come! This is part two of our looky-loo into David Crisafulli - who the hell is this guy, anyway?? From the winding shore of the Herbert River in Ingham to the shark-infested Brisbane River, come with us on a cruise exploring David's rise to Premier of Queensland. Main sources: Record of Proceedings (Hansard) of the Queensland Legislative Assembly, The Courier Mail, and the National Archives of Australia website (naa.gov.au). Other sources available on request! We'll be back next week to review what's going on in the news right now...
2025-01-14
1h 21
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E4: How the Italians Became Mate (David Crisafulli Pt. 1)
Hi everybody! Thank you for tuning in to this episode of Shouldn'ta come with Yani and Ciaran!As always, a big thanks to Simon for his help editing this episode.Main sources:"The Chinese of Europe and Pioneer Legends: race, labour and Italians in White Australia, 1888 to 1940" by Luke Vitale"They're just as good as white people" by Luke Vitale"The White Australia Policy, the British Empire, and the World" by David Atkinson.Other sources, get in touch baybeeeeee
2025-01-07
1h 09
Shouldn'ta Come
Episode 3: Albo For 3 Years With Possibility Of Extension
Welcome to our final episode covering the man, the myth, the Albo, Anthony Albanese, Australian Prime Minister.Thank you to Simon for helping edit this episode!Main sources:“Albanese: Telling it Straight” by Karen Middleton"Lone Wolf Quarterly Essay" by Katharine MurphyOther sources available upon request!
2024-12-23
1h 07
Shouldn'ta Come
E2 Anthony Albanese: Albo (still) Forever
Welcome to Part 2 of our deep dive into Anthony Albanese - we can't believe there's this much to say about the man either! Part 3, the final Albostalment will be out next week in time for a festive listen. Enjoy!Thank you to Simon for help editing this episode!Main sources:“Albanese: Telling it Straight” by Karen Middleton"Lone Wolf Quarterly Essay" by Katharine Murphy
2024-12-18
1h 10
Shouldn'ta Come
E1 Anthony Albanese: Albo Forever
Welcome to the first (official) episode of Shouldn'ta Come with Yani and Ciaran! Today begins a three-part journey into the primest of ministers, Anthony Albanese. From his government-housing, left wing unionist upbringing to the leader of Straya, we discuss his past, present, and speculate on his future. We also work out how to say 'Albanese'.Thank you Simon for your help editing this episode!Main sources: “Albanese: Telling it Straight” by Karen Middleton"Lone Wolf Quarterly Essay" by Katharine Murphy
2024-12-11
1h 03
Shouldn'ta Come
E0.5 Peter Dutton Good Cop Bad Egg?
Welcome back to Shouldn'ta Come! Today we are diving deep into the yolky lore of Peter Dutton, notorious egg. This is a long one, but going forward episodes should be roughly an hour long. Hope you like your pollies poached! Our first main episode will be out next Wednesday 11 December - get ready for some prime (minister) Albo.
2024-12-03
1h 46
Shouldn'ta Come
E0 Bill Shorten The Fraction Warrior
Welcome to Shouldn'ta Come, a podcast about silly Aussie politicians and their history. Our pilot episode about Big Bill Shorten covers the man, myth, and legend himself. Come with us on a journey through time and space—mostly 1967–2024 in Melbourne—to learn a little about the man that would (never) be Prime Minister.
2024-11-24
1h 01