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The Grace & Form Podcast
The Injury Episode P2: Julie Kent, Maria Kowroski, Harrison Coll, Zimmi Coker, Miko Fogarty, Cameron Gomez, Dr. David Williams & Caroline Krumm
In part two of our injury series, we look at injury through connected angles: how company culture is shifting, the perspectives of those who care for dancers’ bodies, and the ways injuries can open the door to unexpected new chapters. You’ll hear from dancers and practitioners across the ballet world: Julie Kent on the emotional reality of injury at the highest level of the art form, and how her experiences now inform the way she nurtures dancers in her leadership roles. Harrison Coll (soloist, New York City Ballet) on how company culture arou...
2025-12-01
1h 22
The Grace & Form Podcast
Patricia Delgado: On Returning to Your Roots & Reimagining What’s Possible
In this intimate and expansive conversation, Patricia Delgado, Tony Award–winning choreographer, Juilliard faculty member, and proud Cuban-American artist opens up about the many chapters that shaped her: dancer, teacher, mother, collaborator, sister, and now, a choreographer discovering her own voice. Patricia shares what it means to build a classroom rooted in emotional awareness, how motherhood has become her greatest grounding force, and why reconnecting with her Cuban roots through Buena Vista Social Club™ ignited a new creative fire. Together, we explore the complexities of comparison and sisterhood, the delicate dance of artistic partnership, and the courage it t...
2025-11-24
1h 35
The Grace & Form Podcast
Gilbert Bolden III: Making the Suit That Suits You
Gilbert Bolden III is a newly minted principal dancer with New York City Ballet, a designer, choreographer, and an artist who brings joy, fluidity, and individuality into everything he does. Earlier this year, he ruptured his Achilles mid Scotch Symphony- but instead of spiralling into crisis, Gilbert met the moment with calm, humour, and an almost shocking amount of perspective. In this episode, we start right where he is today, and then trace the path that brought him here: dancing to Britney in his living room, discovering ballet later than most, rising through the ranks at NYCB...
2025-11-17
1h 20
The Grace & Form Podcast
The Injury Episode P1: Craig Hall, Sara Mearns, Thomas Forster, Isabella LaFreniere, Alexa Maxwell, Cameron Gomez
In this special episode of Grace & Form, we’re doing something a little different. This is Part One of our two-part deep dive into injury - a universal experience for dancers, yet one that’s rarely spoken about with honesty and care. In this episode, we hear voice notes and reflections from dancers around the world, each sharing what injury has meant in their lives and careers, from the first moment it happened to the long journey of recovery that followed. Featuring: Alexa Maxwell - New York City Ballet soloist Craig Hall...
2025-11-10
1h 06
The Grace & Form Podcast
Maria Kochetkova: A Career Around the World
From Moscow to London, San Francisco to Copenhagen, Maria Kochetkova has built a career defined by courage, curiosity, and conviction. In this episode, she reflects on her early years at the Bolshoi Ballet School, leaving Russia to find artistic freedom, and the challenges of carving a path in an industry that often tries to box dancers in. Maria shares what it means to follow intuition over practicality, the importance of great teachers and truthful technique, and how motherhood has reshaped her relationship with dance. She talks about performing while pregnant, adapting her body through each decade, and...
2025-11-03
1h 05
The Grace & Form Podcast
Craig Salstein: The Scaffolding of a Great Dancer
Craig Salstein-NYCB repertory director, longtime ABT soloist, teacher, and Broadway collaborator-shares grounded, generous advice for dancers navigating the hard parts: injury, casting politics, and self-comparison. With trademark humor and clarity, Craig makes a case for “dancing smart”: build technique like scaffolding, obsess over landings and communicate clearly and kindly. He talks about keeping class light without losing discipline, how to turn professional envy into fuel, and why presence beats perfection. We also dig into his work with Justin Peck (from Carousel and West Side Story to Maestro), teaching everyone from company principals to total beginners, and the mindset that sust...
2025-10-27
59 min
The Grace & Form Podcast
Misty Copeland: Five Years Away and One Final Bow with ABT
Misty Copeland joins Saskia Gregson-Williams and Indiana Woodward on the Grace & Form Podcast for an intimate, reflective conversation about stepping away, returning, and saying goodbye to ABT. After five years off stage, Misty shares the perspective she gained outside of ballet, the injuries and challenges that kept her away, and why she initially resisted the idea of a farewell. She talks about the decision to come back: and how gratitude, not finality, is what guides her farewell at ABT. With honesty and warmth, Misty reveals what movement means to her now, how she carries her legacy forward...
2025-10-20
1h 15
The Grace & Form Podcast
Jovani Furlan: The Leap That Changed Everything
In this episode of the Grace & Form podcast, we’re joined by New York City Ballet principal dancer and founder of Furlan Dancewear, Jovani Furlan. From his early training at the Bolshoi school in Brazil to dancing on some of the world’s biggest stages, Jovani shares the pivotal moments that shaped his path; including the risks he took, the pressure he’s learned to navigate, and the tools that keep him grounded. We talk about performance anxiety, building a business while dancing full-time, and how meditation, therapy, and a sense of humor have helped him through it all...
2025-06-23
1h 16
The Grace & Form Podcast
Ballet, Business & Best Friends: The Story Behind Grace & Form
In this special episode, co-founders Saskia Gregson-Williams and Indiana Woodward sit down for an honest conversation about friendship, creativity, and the leap from barre to business. From meeting through the ballet world to building Grace & Form from the ground up, they reflect on the highs, the hard bits, and how their bond has shaped everything along the way. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, a few laughs, and a look at what it really takes to build something meaningful, with your best friend by your side. Take class with one of our incredible Grace & Form teachers, h...
2025-06-16
1h 03
The Grace & Form Podcast
India Bradley: Pointe Shoes, Pressure & Self-Belief
In this powerful and personal episode, New York City Ballet’s India Bradley opens up about what it means to be the “first”; the first Black Dewdrop, the first in many roles - and the complex weight that comes with it. From her early years in Detroit to finding her voice at Dance Theatre of Harlem and SAB, India shares the winding path to NYCB, the pressure to prove she belongs, and the lessons she’s still learning about self-worth, representation, and resilience. We talk about dancing through doubt, the difference between strength and visibility, pointe shoe trials...
2025-06-09
1h 10
The Grace & Form Podcast
Saskia Gregson-Williams: How Ballet Led Me to Start a Business at 15
In this intimate episode, Indiana turns the mic on her co-host and best friend, Saskia Gregson-Williams. Saskia’s journey as a ballet dancer, entrepreneur, and wellness creative has been anything but linear. Together they unpack the journey: homesickness, bullying, burnout, early independence, , injury, and the quiet courage it takes to start again, again and again. They talk about the pressure of being “the best,” the cost of chasing external validation, and how Saskia found strength not in perfection, but in surrendering control. This is an honest and hopeful conversation about identity, reinvention, and the power of patience.
2025-06-02
1h 04
The Grace & Form Podcast
Chun Wai Chan: How I Learned to Dance Smarter, Not Harder
From Guangzhou to New York, cramping on stage to commanding the spotlight, Chun Wai Chan shares the story of how grit, laughter, and letting go helped him become the first Chinese principal dancer at New York City Ballet. In this episode of Grace & Form, Chun opens up about the physical and mental battles behind the curtain: from writing a letter to his parents to convince them to let him dance, to redefining success across continents. We talk training, injury, cultural expectations, building a personal brand, and the infamous Swan Lake performance that almost ended in disaster (hint...
2025-05-26
53 min
The Grace & Form Podcast
Indiana Woodward: Body Image, Self-Love, and the Journey Between
From growing up between continents to rising through the ranks of New York City Ballet, your co-host Indiana Woodward shares her deeply personal journey with body image, identity, and learning to embrace herself fully. In this candid conversation, she opens up about the pressures of ballet, the impact of being told her body wasn’t “right,” and the long path toward self-love and acceptance. We also talk about what it means to build something of your own, and how Grace & Form became part of that healing. Take class with Indiana or one of our incredible Grace & Form teache...
2025-05-19
1h 08
The Grace & Form Podcast
Sara Mearns: Dancing Beyond Expectation, through Burnout and Hearing Loss
In this episode, Principal Dancer Sara Mearns joins us for a raw and wide-ranging conversation about how life onstage has shifted, and how she’s shifted with it. She shares the reality of living with hearing loss for over a decade, what it was like to finally hear her own solo again, and how that moment marked a turning point. We talk about burnout, boundaries, mental health, body maintenance, saying no, and unlearning perfectionism. She opens up about returning to roles like Swan Lake, navigating long-term creative partnerships, her cross-training routine, and the evolving pressure to choreograph in the ag...
2025-05-12
1h 07
The Grace & Form Podcast
Unity Phelan: Resilience, Artistry, and Choosing Your Path
Unity Phelan’s journey to becoming a principal with New York City Ballet wasn't linear, and in this episode, she opens up about the doubts, decisions, and quiet determination that got her there. From facing early rejection to finding her voice as both an artist and a person, Unity shares what it means to stay the course while still carving your own. We talk about building resilience and staying true to yourself in a competitive world. Take class with Saskia, Indiana or one of our incredible Grace & Form teachers, here: Train with the best Try 7 Days Free...
2025-05-05
1h 09
The Grace & Form Podcast
Skylar Brandt: Owning Your Individuality
In this episode, we sit down with Skylar Brandt, principal dancer with American Ballet Theatre, to explore how she's forged a path that’s uniquely her own. Skylar opens up about the challenges and triumphs of embracing her individuality in a traditional art form, the lessons she's learned along the way, and how self-expression has shaped her career both on and off the stage. Whether you're a dancer, a dreamer, or simply someone seeking inspiration, Skylar’s story is a powerful reminder that the courage to be yourself is one of the greatest strengths you can have. Take...
2025-04-28
1h 02
The Grace & Form Podcast
Payal Kadakia Pujji: Class Pass Founder on How She Danced Her Way to a Billion-Dollar Business
In this powerful and heartfelt episode, we sit down with Payal Kadakia Puiji, founder of ClassPass and Sa Dance Company, to trace the incredible path from basement dance classes to boardrooms, sold-out performances, and building a billion-dollar business. Payal shares how her love of dance helped her navigate the pressures of academia, corporate life, and entrepreneurship, while staying deeply connected to her culture and artistic spirit. We talk about the dual identity of dancer and businesswoman, the inner tug-of-war of choosing joy over expectations, and how Payal kept movement as her North Star, even while building one...
2025-04-21
1h 05
The Grace & Form Podcast
Devon Teuscher: The Quiet Strength Behind the Spotlight
In this episode, we sit down with Devon Teuscher, principal dancer at American Ballet Theatre, to explore the extraordinary journey behind the curtain. Devon shares how dance became her sanctuary through her childhood; offering her presence, purpose, and safety when so much felt uncertain. We talk about what it means to stay: in a company, in your body, in your truth — even when the path forward feels unclear. This episode is a celebration of grace, grit, and the ongoing practice of presence. Take one of Devon Teuschers ballet classes on our Grace & Form studio app: Learn from Devo...
2025-04-14
1h 06
The Grace & Form Podcast
Wendy Whelan: The Evolution of a Dancer
From Center Stage to Leadership, we sit down with Wendy Whelan to explore learning, letting go, and lifting the next generation. A former New York City Ballet principal dancer and current associate artistic director, Wendy shares her incredible journey—from performing at the height of her career to stepping into a leadership role. In today’s episode, Wendy opens up about her evolution, embracing growth, and empowering the voices of future dancers.
2025-04-07
1h 08
The Grace & Form Podcast
Introucing The Grace & Form Podcast
Introducing, The Grace & Form Podcast – your backstage pass to the world of movement and the stories that shape it. Join us as we sit down with dancers, creators, and artists who find joy and inspiration through movement. From career-defining moments to lessons in resilience, we explore the journeys that have shaped them—on and off the stage. Meet your hosts and get ready for new episodes every Monday. Let’s move, learn, and be inspired—together.
2025-04-02
02 min