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iLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries221: Charging into 2025!Mike and Jeff close out their fifth year of iLikeBatteries! Jeff's SnowJoe battery update; Jeff's new EGO show thrower; Mike finds a deal; Charging options Jeff missed during his Ionic 5 rental; CCA vs NACS charging standards; what about renting an EV from Turo?; are you wanting to start a podcast?; Stats and a Thank You.2024-12-3125 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries134: The Case for Single Use BatteriesJeff and Mike dive into the BIN to talk about a click-bait single use battery article and some re-purposing that Kodak is doing. Jeff's Ecoflow River arrives and he gives first impressions. iLikeBatteries reaches a download milestone.2022-08-0235 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries097: Junk in the FrunkMike and Jeff attend an EV meetup in Dover, NH where they discover some odd things under the hoods of a few different vehicles; E-Bike Classifications (wear your helmet); Review of EV charging station levels.2021-11-1939 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries096: Energizing ConnectionsJeff and Mike reveal some exciting things coming soon from iLikeBatteries; some excellent battery-related tidbits in the recently signed Infrastructure Bill; and, as always, Gratitude.2021-11-1219 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries095: A Date with Battery Dates, and WinterMike and Jeff explore battery expiration dates, battery self-discharge rates, lead acid car battery manufacture dates, and a jump start story.2021-11-0527 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries094: Three Books and Some SoupJeff and Mike inadvertantly recommend 3 books while discussing lighting an ourdoor fire with the Sparkr, a Porsche Taycan option to avoid, Hertz's Tesla Model 3 purchase, and Dyson going all in on solid state batteries. And a soup story. The Art of Impossible (Steven Kotler), Invention: A Life (James Dyson), Thinkertoys (Michael Michalko).2021-10-2926 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries093: Don't Scarf My Solar PanelMike and Jeff find a battery powered heated scarf just in time for Fall; solar panel follow-up; Mike gets his NowLight.2021-10-2224 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries092: Segway Segue SegwayJeff and Mike touch on solar panel lifespans, have a follow-up to our EV plate discussion, chat about segway scooters, and then about some interesting swappable battery tech.2021-10-1527 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries091: Keep the Recycle Cycle GoingMike and Jeff discover why EV license plates are not an ego trip; more on expanding the recycling stream; what about overall energy usage during the recycling process?2021-10-0822 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries090: Enough Power To Go WAY BACK In TimeJeff gives Mike a birthday present. Excellent news from Gravitricity. Lucid Air goes 520 miles on a single charge. Porsche Cayman and Boxster to go electric in 2025. Ford Lightning strikes twice. The rise of the gigafactory.2021-10-0126 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries089: Are Batteries Jumping Ship?Mike and Jeff discuss batteries in the news, including some interesting things that VW is doing with leases, a battery-powered inland ship with swappable batteries and some Back to the Future nonsense.2021-09-2425 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries088: Batteries and Hot DogsJeff and Mike continue on their battery safety kick with an ironic local news story, and then they dig into some specifics of the NMC battery chemistry as a follow-up to our discussion with Shawn Murphy.2021-09-1727 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries087: Controlled Thermal Events and the Future of PyrotechnicsMike and Jeff discuss some powerful products, and start to learn about thermoelectrics, including the Seebeck Effect and the Peltier Effect. Charging your phone with fire?2021-09-1030 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries086: Hearts, Souls, and Checkbooks, with Shawn Murphy from Titan Advanced Energy SolutionsJeff and Mike wrap up our 3 part conversation with Shawn Murphy. We get into the future of batteries, giga-factories, lessons in economics, legacy, twitter environmentalists, data, and inspiration! 2021-09-0328 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries085: Like California on Steriods, with Shawn Murphy from Titan Advanced Energy SolutionsMike and Jeff continue with part 2 of their 3 episode conversation with Shawn Murphy from Titan Advanced Energy Solutions. In this episode we dig deeper into Titan's technology, battery recycling, and the "happy accident". 2021-08-2732 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries084: Better, Smarter, & Safer Batteries with Titan Advanced Energy SolutionsJeff and Mike had the distinct pleasure to spend some time at the headquarters of Titan Advanced Energy Solutions on the waterfront in Salem, Massachusetts. We received an incredible tour (thanks Jeff Kowalski), and then sat down with Founder and CEO, Shawn Murphy, for a journey you will not want to miss. This is part 1 of 2 (or maybe 3?) episodes.2021-08-2034 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries083: Batteries that BounceMike and Jeff discuss different ways to test your batteries, including one unique way that involves nothing more than a table top and gravity.2021-08-1321 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries082: You Sank My SUB-marine!Jeff and Mike dive deeper into battery recycling, especially Single Use Batteries (SUBs). Should there be a deposit on single use cells? They also touch on battery safety.2021-08-0623 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries081: Recycling SoapboxMike and Jeff chat about some leaking alkaline batteries that Jeff came across, and then they get on their soapboxes and talk about battery recycling. Much more to come on that!2021-07-3021 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries080: Old Friends and PotatoesJeff and Mike re-visit the current offerings of some of their previous guests (FYI: powerful stuff!). Jeff is compelled to correct Mike on a "po-tay-toe" vs "po-tah-toe" thing.2021-07-2329 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries079: Batteries and Water, Don't Mix!Mike and Jeff discuss battery safety and start learning about what to do in the case of a thermal event. Jeff compares "fuel" costs of his Cayman with a Taycan (and other EVs). 2021-07-1618 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries078: Mini-UPS and New Eero Woes - We Know JackJeff shares with Mike the details of his latest home WiFi and mini-UPS adventure. Jeff learns an interesting tidbit about his M1 MacBook Air's power draw. We respond to a listener's twitter post.2021-07-0921 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries077: When Your Batteries Need to RestMike and Jeff explore battery capacity loss during longer term storage, and what it takes for batteries to fly.2021-07-0235 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries076: ICE, ICE, BEV-yJeff and Mike talk about Father's Day, and then get into some car-related batteries in the news as well as a discussion about different ways to compare BEV's. Mini-UPS, revisited.2021-06-2539 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries075: 80 is the New 100Matt Lamontangne makes his second "appearance" on the show and helps Mike and Jeff answer some listener questions about EV batteries.2021-06-1830 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries074: Field Trip Follow-UpMike tells Jeff about his visit to see Matt Lamontangne at Leo & Son's. A new segment in the making? Is anyone interested in an iLikeBatteries YouTube channel?2021-06-1109 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries073: Sometimes We're a Little CoolerWith the arrival of Summer, Mike and Jeff see what they can discover about battery powered coolers, refrigerators, and freezers. Some of them are definitely cooler than others.2021-06-0426 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries072: USB Plus!Jeff and Mike dig deep into the origins of the Universal Serial Bus and how it relates to data transfer and power delivery.2021-05-2827 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries071: The EV Crossover Show, Part 2Part 2 of Jeff and Mike's coversation with YouTube creators and podcast hosts Alex Sibila and Brandan Boggs. In this episide we get to know a little bit more about Alex's Model 3 and Brandan's Bolt. They both have stared range anxiety in the face...listen to see how that turned out.2021-05-2120 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries070: The EV Crossover Show, Part 1Jeff and Mike host Alex Sibila and Brandan Boggs to discuss all things EV. Alex and Brandan are electric vehicle enthusiasts who share a passion for education and content production. They each run an EV-focused YouTube channel, and host a new podcast together called Living Electric. We had so much fun chatting that Part 2 will drop next week.2021-05-1424 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries069: Happy Little BatteriesMike and Jeff touch on batteries both large and small in this episode. We talk about Porsche's battery aspirations, the NEEAA.org meetup that Jeff attended, repurposing and recycling all types of batteries, and the A23 and how that might lead you to wanting a talking Bob Ross bobblehead.2021-05-0731 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries068: Experts in PowerJeff and Mike host Bryan Bautista of ExpertPower to discuss their numerous product offerings in the battery space. We talk about their replacement batteries, and mid-sized and large power stations.2021-04-3031 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries067: Avoiding Thermal Events with Matt LamontagneMike and Jeff host Matt Lamontagne from Leo & Sons Auto Repair on South Broadway in Lawrence, MA. Matt takes us on a Hybrid and EV journey from a side we don't often see: out of warranty repair and maintenance. This is a fun episide and we plan to invite Matt back again in the future. Enjoy! Matt is an ASE Certified Master Technician and holds L1 (Automotive) and L3 (Hybrid) Advanced Level ASE Certifications. Matt specializes in diagnosing and repairing hybrid and electric vehicles and is also holds a Master Hybrid Technician certification by Automotive Career Development...2021-04-2333 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries066: ICE cold truth of EV shoppingJeff and Mike discover that most car shopping sites aren't yet up to the task of EV shopping. Jeff has a quick capacity update on his Energizer AAA's.2021-04-1627 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries065: Why the Y, Brandon? - Part 2 of 2Jeff and Mike wrap up their conversation with Brandon Barba, a co-worker of Jeff's who just acquired a Model Y in Massachusetts. In part 2, we discuss charging, range anxiety, and mattresses.2021-04-0928 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries064: Why the Y, Brandon? - Part 1 of 2Jeff and Mike host Brandon Barba, a co-worker of Jeff's who just acquired a Model Y in Massachusetts. In part 1 we explore Brandon's previous vehicle, his choice of the Model Y, and the purchase process.2021-04-0223 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries063: It is ok to be blue, maybe you'll find your sanctuaryMike and Jeff discuss a better way to talk about EV range and do an off the cuff comparison of some whole house auxiliary battery systems. Jeff offers a quick take on "unboxing" of the Pale Blue Earth AA, 9V and D cells.2021-03-2627 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries062: Every Which Way But LooseJeff and Mike tie up some loose ends. Jeff "completes" his UPS journey. Heavy hearts are bad. How about an SSB? The Double Whammy. Can your Tile be a retriever retriever?2021-03-1931 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries061: Mr. Wind and the Unexpected TestMike and Jeff record the episode while Jeff is running on a generator. Does Jeff's internet survive a power outage? More on purchases of power stations, and a powerful thing discussed.2021-03-1230 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries060: Thank You for the UnplugJeff and Mike discuss the near completion of Jeff's UPS journey. But there's an issue, so they have to re-review some of their previous assumptions. TL;DL: Read the manual BEFORE you buy.2021-03-0528 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries059: Those Battery Guys Will "Say Anything"The power station and the Mini UPS arrive, but there are issues. Batteries in the News segment explores phasing out of ICE vehicles. Powerful Stuff Found.2021-02-2628 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries058: UPS Updates: Discovery of the Mini UPSJeff updates Mike on the progress of his UPS setup. A power station has been ordered and Jeff discovers the Mini UPS, which looks to be the perfect solution for what he needs.2021-02-1932 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries057: Jeff's UPS - The Traditional ApproachMike and Jeff explore more traditional UPS options for Jeff's home setup. As you will hear, there are A LOT of options to sort through.2021-02-1230 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries056: Jeff's UPS - In Which We Consider Power StationsJeff and Mike explore the possibility of using a portable power station as part of a UPS-style backup system for Jeff's home office setup. The results may surprise you.2021-02-0526 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries055: Pale Blue Earth (Part 2 of 2)Mike and Jeff host Tom Bishop, co-founder of Pale Blue Earth. Pale Blue is focused on creating a better future by leveraging technology, innovation, and inspired product creation to greatly improve our utilization of energy and resources and greatly reduce the amount of waste we all produce.2021-01-2925 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries054: Pale Blue Earth (Part 1 of 2)Jeff and Mike host Tom Bishop, co-founder of Pale Blue Earth. Pale Blue is focused on creating a better future by leveraging technology, innovation, and inspired product creation to greatly improve our utilization of energy and resources and greatly reduce the amount of waste we all produce.2021-01-2222 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries053: UPS and downsIn section one of this episode, Mike and Jeff begin exploring Jeff's quest for the best Uninterruptible Power Supply for his home setup. Section two has some surprises, including, believe it or not, battery powered pallet jacks?2021-01-1524 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries052: Throwing Some Snow AroundJeff and Mike review some battery powered tools for snow removal and cleanup. Please ignore the intermittent background noise of a tile saw, Jeff is having some work done in an adjascent room.2021-01-0835 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries051: Lion Energy - Part 2 of 2Mike and Jeff host David Whitlock of Lion Energy in Part 2 of our discussion. Happy New Year!2021-01-0126 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries050: The GiftHappy Holidays from iLikeBatteries! In this special episode, Jeff and Mike discuss how they got started with the podcast, some behind the scenes details about the show and some things they are thankful for.2020-12-2536 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries049: Lion Energy - Part 1 of 2Mike and Jeff host David Whitlock of Lion Energy. We had a lot to talk about so we're splitting this into two episodes. Enjoy.2020-12-1826 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries048: Fully Charged for the HolidaysJeff and Mike follow up on Black Friday deals as we prepare for the holiday gift giving season. They explore gifts under $25, under $100 and under $500. Some nice surprises are unwrapped.2020-12-1130 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries047: Bottom's Up!Mike and Jeff round out the heated clothing episodes discussing heated pants.2020-12-0427 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesPowerful Deals 001: Lion EnergyMike and Jeff interviewed David Whitlock of Lion Energy today, but the episode will not air until December 18th. Sad, we know. However, Lion Energy launched their 12 days of Christmas event today and we didn't want you to miss out. Visit LionEnergy.com for more details. Enjoy these Powerful Deals!2020-12-0201 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries046: Make a Wish!Mike and Jeff share their holiday wish lists, including some Black Friday deals you might want to consider. Gifts always welcome.2020-11-2728 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries045: The Rabbit HoleJeff and Mike explore a battery machine learning journey Jeff went on last week as it relates to a possible future version of FruitJuice.2020-11-2030 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries044: Beans and LeavesJeff and Mike wake up to the idea of battery powered mugs for coffee, tea and other hot and cold "beverages".2020-11-1330 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries043: Hot Dogs?Mike and Jeff take on the "accessories" category of battery powered heated "clothing". Stay warm out there!2020-11-0625 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries042: Jackets, Vests, and Base Layers, Oh My!Jeff and Mike survey the options for keeping your core warm with heated jackets, vests and base layers. And More!2020-10-3031 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries041: Putting some Soles into your ShoesMike and Jeff investigate, in close to real-time, battery-powered accessories to keep your feet warm.2020-10-2332 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries040: Pandora's Glove BoxJeff and Mike attempt to get a handle on the myriad of options in the heated glove market. 2020-10-1636 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries039: Electric WinterAs cooler weather depends upon New England, Mike and Jeff give an overview of a product segment they recently discovered that they believe you'll be hot for. Layering up for future episodes.2020-10-0920 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries038: Battery Day CommentaryMike and Jeff react to Tesla's Battery Day announcements.2020-10-0224 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries037: Chi-Chi-USB? (or is that Qi-Qi-USB?)Jeff fills Mike in on the latest with his battery case builds and other purchases. They discuss some UPS options for Jeff's internet setup.2020-09-2531 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries036: All Charged UpJeff and Mike expand upon a recent Twitter thread to dive into "chargers" and break down what they are and the many different types of chargers that are around. #NotACarShow2020-09-1836 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries035: Adventures in Battery Pack Building LandJeff discusses the current status of his recent battery pack parts acquisitions. Mike updates us on his shed.2020-09-1120 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries034: Will You Be Our (Rock) Pals?Jeff and Mike host Lily and Mia from ROCKPALS who tell us about their battery (and non-battery) powered products for outdoor enthusiasts!2020-09-0430 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries033: Go Big or Go HomeMike and Jeff review 4 different power stations that are greater than 2000 Watt hours.2020-08-2833 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries032: Jeff Goes ShoppingJeff shares his recent battery container shopping experiences with Mike; and why you won't hear about it for quite some time.2020-08-2120 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries031: Dave Nanian Likes Battery-Powered Cars (Part 2 of 2)Part 2 of our discussion with Dave Nanian as we cover some specific differences in user experience between the Model S and the Taycan. Also, charging infrastructure and the future.2020-08-1434 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries030: Dave Nanian Likes Battery-Powered Cars (Part 1 of 2)Jeff and Mike host special guest Dave Nanian of Shirt Pocket software as Dave shares his electric vehicle story. We talk about Tesla Model S, BMW i3 and Porsche Taycan.2020-08-0735 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries029: Portable Power StationsMike and Jeff break down a handful of 500 Watt portable power stations, discussing features and options and which one might be the best for you. 2020-07-3140 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries028: Finding Your QiJeff and Mike close the gap on inductive charging. 2020-07-2425 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries027: Battery Recovery ModeJeff had some non-charging rechargeable batteries, buys some toys to diagnose the issues and has a surprising result. Mike changes a car battery.2020-07-1724 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries026: Far Out CoolJeff and Mike discuss current battery events (pun intended).2020-07-1024 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries025: It's Gonna Cost YouMike and Jeff review a number of battery packs and talk about price per milliamp-hour (among other things).2020-07-0337 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries024: 18 x 65The 18650 battery is in more places than you know. Jeff and Mike explore this popular lithium-ion cell.2020-06-2626 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries023: High Voltage AC/DCMike and Jeff talk about inverters and how they relate to batteries.2020-06-1926 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries022: Best Light for BreakfastHave you ever wondered what light temperature was ideal for when you're eating breakfast? Mike and Jeff didn't know this was a thing until this episode.2020-06-1231 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries021: Nature's GeneratorSpecial guest Gregory Adams from Nature's Generator joins Mike and Jeff to discuss their line of solar and wind powered generator/portable power centers.2020-06-0531 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries020: GravitricityMike and Jeff speak with Charlie Blair, Co-Founder and General Manager at Gravitricity, a novel energy storage solution company. All the way from Edinburgh! 2020-05-2930 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries019: Socket to Me, Mike!Mike and Jeff explore things surrounding charging items in your car, and alternate between calling it an outlet and a socket. Which is your preference?2020-05-2822 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries018: DeciwattMike and Jeff speak with Shaun Pirie, Product Design Manager with Deciwatt (https://deciwatt.global) about their unique approach to product design and the sometimes extreme constraints under which their products must perform.2020-05-1538 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries017: Grass, InterruptedMike and Jeff with some follow-ups to last week's episode. Batteries in the news. Battery powered lawn equipment and why Jeff needs to go shopping.2020-05-0830 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries016: Forced to Consider the Potential of a Gravity BatteryMike and Jeff get weighed down with the notion of the gravity battery and discuss their potential. Also, a brief batteries in the news segment.2020-05-0435 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries015: Can Batteries Be (in) Any Cooler?Batteries in the News. Mike has a vision, about a shed. We dedicate some air to battery powered cooling devices.2020-04-2435 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries014: The Only Winning Move Is Not To PlayMike and Jeff chat about eBikes and muse about what Tesla might be announcing next week.2020-04-1722 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries013: Worst Alarm Clock EverJeff and Mike offer up suggestions for how to properly dispose of your spent batteries, and they discover the Oxford Electric Bell. Also, batteries in the news.2020-04-1022 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteries012: Not Your Delivery CompanyMike and Jeff dig into Uninterruptible Power Supplies (UPS) and why you might want to consider getting one if you don't already own one.2020-04-0331 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 011: Not a VirusOur apologies for a technical issue that resulted in us losing our recording for this week. We'll be back next week with a full show. We dug into the following articles: Solid State BatteriesBest Portable Chargers/Power BanksSolar Energy System uses Aluminum to Store Energy Thanks for your patience. Send us questions at: power@ilikebatteries.com2020-03-2001 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 010: Scratching the SurfaceJeff and Mike continue their discussion of electric vehicles (EVs) and dig into lithium mining.2020-03-1328 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 009: Leading the ChargeMike and Jeff scratch the surface of battery-powered vehicles; including a little bit of history.2020-03-0631 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 008: Goal Zero - Part TwoMike and Jeff conclude their discussion with Bill Harmon from Goal Zero. What do you think about the future of batteries?2020-02-2819 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 007: Goal Zero - Part OneMike and Jeff speak with Bill Harmon, General Manager at Goal Zero, about their mission, their product line and the unusual way that the company was founded.2020-02-2218 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 006: Don't Be the One to Close the LoopMike and Jeff close the loop on electricity and get their charge on. Congratulations to Ryan for answering our first ever trivia question!2020-02-1425 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 005: Jeff Goes SkiingMike and Jeff discuss things that can stress out your battery, as well as the difference between state of charge and state of health. They also close the loop on the concepts for understanding electricity and batteries.2020-02-0729 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 004: Jiggy WattsMike and Jeff tease apart power and energy and how it relates to battery capacity. Back to the Future trivia question.2020-01-3130 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 003: Try to Contain YourselfThis week is all about containers (yes, that definition thing again). Jeff and Mike also follow up on "Why the 'I' in Ohm's Law"?2020-01-2430 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 002: Set Your VCRThis week, Jeff and Mike give you a jolt of electricity and attempt to do some math.2020-01-1727 miniLikeBatteriesiLikeBatteriesEpisode 001: Thank You, Ben FranklinIn this episode we define the battery for everyone and explore the history of batteries.2020-01-1227 min