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Nothing Without UsMars Lord on Reimagining DEIIn this eleventh and final episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Mars Lord.Mars is a doula, birth activist and life coach. We talk about considering the life arc of your colleagues and employees as you consider DEI matters, and staying curious.You can find out more about Mars here - www.marslord.co.ukConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/mars-lord-on-reimagining-dei2024-02-0811 min
Nothing Without UsAlison Peacock on Reimagining DEIIn this tenth episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Alison Peacock.Alison is the CEO of the Chartered College of Teaching. We talk about what has changed in Alison's attitude to DEI, and how she thinks schools should approach the work now.You can find out more about Alison here - https://chartered.college/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/alison-peacock-on-reimagining-dei2024-02-0118 min
Nothing Without UsCatarina Rivera on Reimagining DEIIn this ninth episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Catarina Rivera.Catarina is a disability public speaker and DEI coach. We talk about intersectionality and disability, hidden disabilities in the workplace, and Catarina's hope for the future.You can find out more about Catarina here - www.catarinarivera.comConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/catarina-rivera-on-reimagining-deiThis podcast was written...2024-01-2514 min
Nothing Without UsSimone Seol on Reimagining DEIIn this eighth episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Simone Seol.Simone is a coach and podcaster. We talk about Simone's approach to learning through her work, and why thinking of yourself as a good person is a block to change. You can find out more about Simone here - www.simonegraceseol.comConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/simone-seol-on-reimagining-deiT...2024-01-1814 min
Nothing Without UsViv Grant on Reimagining DEIIn this seventh episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Viv Grant.Viv is Director of Integrity Coaching, providing coaching and leadership training for school leaders. We talk about soul wounding, the need for self care in DEI work, and the depth of understanding needed to properly tackle racial injustice.You can find out more about Viv here - www.integritycoaching.co.ukConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at h...2024-01-1114 min
Nothing Without UsIona Jackson on Reimagining DEIIn this sixth episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Iona Jackson.Iona Jackson heads the Insights Team at Edurio, and leads on a number of surveys for schools. We talk about the trends in DEI within educational settings, and the challenges of keeping DEI at the top of the agenda.You can find out more about Edurio here - https://home.edurio.com/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found a...2024-01-0413 min
Nothing Without UsDavid Bedrick on Reimagining DEIIn this fifth episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with David Bedrick.David Bedrick is a teacher, author, and psychological activist and founder of the Santa Fe Institute for Shame-Based Studies. We talk about the experience of shame and how to unearth it, and the value of storytelling in DEI work.You can find out more about David on his website - https://www.davidbedrick.com/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can b...2023-12-2818 min
Nothing Without UsElizabeth Wright on Reimagining DEIIn this fourth episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Elizabeth Wright.Elizabeth Wright is a disability allyship consultant, keynote speaker, leadership coach and Paralympic medalist. We talk about what allyship means to her, and how we can move beyond performative actions to real inclusivity.You can find out more about Elizabeth on her website - http://www.elizabethwright.net/Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/ep...2023-12-2113 min
Nothing Without UsClaire Bloor on Reimagining DEIIn this third episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Claire Bloor.Claire Bloor is CEO of SARSAS, a sexual violence service supporting survivors of sexual violence across the Southwest. We talk about workplace approaches to responding to sexual violence and discrimination, and the work still to be done in this area.You can find out more about Claire and SARSAS at www.sarsas.org.ukConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can b...2023-12-1414 min
Nothing Without UsYee Won Chong on Reimagining DEIIn this second episode of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Yee Won Chong.Yee Won is a strategist, trainer and speaker, and along with his partner, Brooks Nelson, created the film, Trans Dudes with Lady Cancer. We talk about the discussions the film has generated - about how we can make an effort to be more humane in the way that we intentionally create welcoming spaces for everyone, especially trans people.You can find out more about Yee Won on his website - http://yeewonchong.org/ See th...2023-12-0716 min
Nothing Without UsCherry Steinwender on Reimagining DEIIn this first of our Reimagining DEI series, you will hear excerpts from my conversation with Cherry Steinwender.Cherry is cofounder of the Center for Healing Racism, and has been working in this space for many years. Our conversation ranges from how Cherry and her colleagues developed their methods, the importance of inner work, and how to keep going when you don't see the results you want.You can find out more about the Center for Healing Racism on their website www.centerhealingracism.orgConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk...2023-11-3015 min
Nothing Without UsIntroducing our Reimagining DEI SeriesToday, I'm really excited to introduce a unique series on the Being Luminary podcast, one that's really close to my heart. Earlier this month, we hosted a sensational event. It was a summit called Reimagining DEI for a new era of ethical leadership. And it was focused on reimagining diversity, equity and inclusion work in the context of all sorts of leadership roles, whether that's coaching or service provision, consultancy, whether you are somebody that's a school leader, a charity leader, we were really looking at how we do this work across our fields. It was an event that...2023-11-2311 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Aspiring for equality, with Carla Whelan"I do think that because of my experiences, and because of, of my feeling around learning, that made me excel in the classroom as a teacher, because I really could understand how to do the building blocks of learning, you know, and break things down and make sure that understanding was there. I think that teachers I've met that have not struggled at school and that have been, you know, those learners that are flying through, have found that journey of being able to break learning down harder."In this distilled episode Angie talks to Carla Whelan...2023-10-2614 min
Nothing Without UsMeet Our Virtual Summit SpeakersIntroducing our 2023 Virtual Summit - Reimagining Diversity, Equity, Inclusion for a new era of Ethical LeadershipIn this episode Angie introduces some of the speakers and conversations that will be available at the Summit, which will be taking place on Friday 27th and Saturday 28th October 2023.Register for your free ticket - https://www.beingluminary.co.uk/summitConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/meet-our-virtual-summit-speakersThis podcast was written...2023-10-1916 min
Nothing Without UsOur 2023 Virtual Summit is here!Introducing our 2023 Virtual Summit - Reimagining Diversity, Equity, Inclusion for a new era of Ethical LeadershipIn this episode Angie explains the purpose and format of the summit, which will be taking place on Friday 27th and Saturday 28th October 2023.To be notified when tickets are available, sign up for Angie’s newsletter at https://beingluminary.myflodesk.com/2023summitConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/our-2023-virtual-summit-is-hereThis podcast was...2023-10-1217 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Faith in schools with Rebecca Leek"I'm really interested in this idea in spiritual education. And we don't we say it, but we don't really engage with it in schools. And when I have talked about it, people get a little bit kind of itchy."In this distilled episode, Angie talks to Rebecca Leek about how her faith as a Quaker informs her teaching, and why schools in Britain don't engage well with faith.Rebecca Leek is an experienced strategic leader who has worked across a wide range of settings and organisations. She has been a headteacher, executive headteacher, chief executive...2023-10-0516 min
Nothing Without UsFreedom of Speech vs Cancel Culture“So I want to live in a liberal society where people can have their freedom of speech recognised where people can debate openly on issues on the issues of the day, where people can debate things. Yeah, I think I think liberal societies need debate. And I think they need to have people feel confident enough to call others out as part of that debate. But debate isn't possible where tone policing happens, I don't think because debate requires that everybody's voice does get to be heard, however, that voice is being used. And so I think tone policing an...2023-09-2821 min
Nothing Without UsTokenism vs Representation, and Why You May Not Want Either!“Now I've been the token., so I can wholeheartedly speak from experience of how being the one representative made me feel both a kind of responsibility, and a specialness, but also a visibility that perpetuated my marginalisation. That visibility, that responsibility and visibility also meant that it was impossible to genuinely include me, because I was never just like everybody else, I was always just the voice over there, that might have a really different way of viewing things. And so although I applaud any organisation for wanting to have people in the organisation, who come from a whole ra...2023-09-2123 min
Nothing Without UsColour Blindness Does Not Exist!“Our colourblindness attempts to sanitise, through our intention, the very reliable and very lived impact of the significance of colour in the lives of many people who are racialized as black or brown. Because colourblindness ignores the persistence of racial discrimination and the lack of equity experienced in the day to day lives of people who hold racialized identities.”In this solo episode, Angie explores why the ideas of neutrality and colourblindness in leadship are problematic. She proposes some tips to consider for yourself when confronting colourblindness and the supremacy of whiteness in your own thinking, and...2023-09-1420 min
Nothing Without UsWanna Know The Limits of Diversity Training?“When we say that we need to run diversity training, what we actually do is reassert the centre ground. We say we need to train people who don't hold minoritized identities, (the centre ground (everybody who we understand)) on all of those people who do have minoritized identities (those at the margins (everybody that we don't understand)). So what it becomes is a reassertion of the idea that there can be a centre ground, when in actual fact, it's kind of an impossibility. If we are talking about diversity, the question always has to be, diverse from what? Diverse fr...2023-09-0722 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Carla Whelan"I do think that because of my experiences, and because of, of my feeling around learning, that made me excel in the classroom as a teacher, because I really could understand how to do the building blocks of learning, you know, and break things down and make sure that understanding was there. I think that teachers I've met that have not struggled at school and that have been, you know, those learners that are flying through, have found that journey of being able to break learning down harder."In this episode Angie talks to Carla Whelan, Chief...2023-08-3142 min
Nothing Without UsDoes it really 'get to be easy'?"Life does not always get to be easy. And for those of us who are, you know, have existed with the high tolerance levels for a life that hasn't been easy, that are existing with these continually minoritized identities, you know, deliberately saying these identities have been minoritized by a centre ground, if you live with these identities doesn't always get to be easy. And although we can change our thoughts about our lives, we can change our thoughts about our circumstances, that doesn't mean that it gets to be easy."In this solo episode, Angie questions...2023-06-1517 min
Nothing Without UsMasterclass: Luminary ListeningIn this episode, Angie expands on her approach to receiving feedback, as a leader, and describes why calling detractors 'haters' is unhelpful.This Masterclass was recorded live on Instagram. More lives from Angie can be found at her IG account - @angelambrowneConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/masterclass-luminary-listeningThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and p...2023-06-0828 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Rebecca Leek"I'm really interested in this idea in spiritual education. And we don't we say it, but we don't really engage with it in schools. And when I have talked about it, people get a little bit kind of itchy."In this wide ranging conversation, Angie talks to Rebecca Leek about how her faith as a Quaker informs her teaching, why schools in Britain don't engage well with faith, sexism in British culture, and the challenge of being neurodivergent and contentious in the education system.Rebecca Leek is an experienced strategic leader who has worked across...2023-06-0144 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Telling my story, with Richard O'Neill"If we look at it in plain and simple terms, then some people will ask you to be part of something because of, of your ethnicity. You know, because you are this, this ethnicity, and it's exotic or interesting. But, you know, and then sometimes you might need to do that. So, very often, I'll be described as a Romani writer. And that might serve the purpose of that particular thing. But actually, in reality, am I a very good storyteller? Am I a reasonably good writer who just happens to be Romani? Or am I a Romani writer...2023-05-2518 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Mixed messages, with Sarah Doneghy"My mom is white and English. And my dad is black and American. And he grew up in segregation in West Virginia. And I really don't think either of them expected me to experience racism. .. When I got older when I was 12, 11/12/13 and these kids were telling me, 'Don't let your dad pick you up. We can't let my parents know he's black. Don't tell them you're black'. I didn't tell my parents any of that because I knew at that point, that was gonna hurt them. You know, and so I didn't share that with them. Maybe I...2023-05-1817 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Holding multiple truths, with Penny Rabiger"Our childhood was kind of framed with violence and neglect and struggle. But also alongside that there were kind of riches in terms of freedom, art, music, friendships...I think my origin story is a lot about holding two truths or multiple truths - dualities, juxtaposition." In this distilled episode, Penny Rabiger explores her origin story, as the child of a Jewish mother in North London, and how she navigates whiteness in her DEI work.You can listen to the full episode here - https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-penny-rabigerPenny Rabiger is a...2023-05-1117 min
Nothing Without UsPivoting Into The Unknown With As Much Grace And Peace As I Can Muster"I allow myself the thoughts of doubt, but these are not self-isolating thoughts. No, I make these thoughts hold hands with others. I make them connect with thoughts like 'things are always working out', like 'there are amazing opportunities around the corner', with thoughts like, 'how truly lucky you are.'In times like these, there is an opportunity for us all to face down misery, turmoil and strife with grace and peace, and I invite you to try it. As Rob Bell says, if we stumble or fall, 'wisdom is always around the corner'. If we l...2023-05-0413 min
Nothing Without UsAnnouncing our Virtual Summit "I feel like maybe disruption, maybe disorder, maybe some degree of changing and a little bit of chaos, even, it's just the way that we live. But in that we have the opportunity to cling on to things that are really sure that are really secure. And there is nothing short or secure than our own sense of ourselves. Because that's what we were born with, we walk with it every day, we hold it, whether we like it or we want to change it is a different matter. But we all are here with a sense of ourselves. A...2023-04-2712 min
Nothing Without UsUpdates and Expansions"I'm trying to recognise that I have been able to bring a body of work into the world that benefits from being shared and interpreted and articulated by others. And also just to really see the impact of becoming the bottleneck for all of that getting out into the world. There's something of ego in there isn't there, there's something of hubris like, Oh, I'm the only person that can do this. That also sits in there. And I've been working in exploring that as well as I expand into the next level of myself and also, as the...2023-04-2021 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: DEI in practice with Steffan Griffiths“I think the idea of it being a golden ticket to being an insider, has already gone. And I think that's a good thing. I mean, I don't have a problem with it. And I think one of the big challenges for the independent sector is, is to ensure that we are fully integrated in society. And we are a force for good both institutionally and for the individuals that we send out into the world.”In this distilled episode, Angie talks to Steffan Griffiths about how he approaches DEI work while holding a lot of privileges. They...2023-03-3014 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Doing something with Robin Bevan"If you do nothing, that is a political act. If you sit on the sidelines, and you are not engaged in using the talents that you have, ultimately for the well being of others, then you're actually contributing to maintaining the status quo, you're not seeking change."In this distillled episode Angie talks to Robin Bevan, Headteacher at Southend High School for Boys. They talk about Robin’s background in trade unionism and non-Conformist religion, about using his privilege to speak up for others, and how his school is focusing on diversity, equity and inclusion.Ro...2023-03-2318 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Making progress with Cheryl Giovannoni“This is exciting, energising stuff. And while it's difficult, we shouldn't be cowed by that. Because it's through the difficulty that we will make real progress and start to chip away at some very embedded and deep issues that just need to have a light shone on them and that's why we should approach it in a very positive way” In this distilled episode Angie talks to Cheryl Giovannoni about growing up in South Africa, the DEI work that the Girls’ Day School Trust is engaged in and the work that is still to be done.Chery...2023-03-1617 min
Nothing Without UsAnother chance to hear: The Myth of Thick SkinTrigger warning - this podcast contains depictions of both physical and emotional torture and pain. Listener discretion is advised. Somebody asked me recently, what I thought might be different about my life, had I been born in a different skin in less brown skin? And my immediate response was, how could I possibly know? We none of us really know, do we, what the other person experiences. But the thought of not experiencing this life, as someone with brown skin has never really occurred to me, has never really been something that I have tried t...2023-03-0924 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Penny Rabiger"I think as a white woman in this field, there's just so much that one has to try to be mindful of. And I think holding on to this notion that I will be good is just, it's not helpful. Right? Of course, I try to do no harm. I try to be self aware. But there are layers and layers. So I do need people to reflect back. But I also need to be self reliant and responsible and not just expect other people to carry me along and explain and educate me. So I think there's a...2023-03-021h 05
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Leading change, with Russell Hobby“There are thousands of school leaders and teachers doing those sorts of things every day. And if they weren't, this country would be a lot worse place for this and we don't see it, reward it. I think government takes it for granted that this sort of glue is there. In many ways it sort of uses it, I think, but if we funded it properly, and resourced it and respected it that way, this could be a very powerful force for our country.”In this distilled episode, Angie talks to Russell Hobby about the social impact of g...2023-02-2317 min
Nothing Without UsA Day in the Life of Angie BrowneIn this solo episode, Angie shares an intimate portrait of a day in her life. Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/a-day-in-the-life-of-angie-browneThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.
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Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Richard O'Neill“Every adult in school is getting paid to be there, including me, the kids are not. They don't get anything out of it. And if they're disengaged from their education, from the learning in that school, they're getting less than nothing. Imagine if somebody said to you as an adult, now, here's the thing, you go to this place, it's not very good for you. You just don't want to be there all day. And maybe it's giving you some kind of anxiety as well on top, and you don't get anything out of it. Why would you go? Yo...2023-02-0951 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Recognising privilege with Claire Bloor'For so many people in my generation who were raised with that kind of colorblind approach, they've always thought there's not no racism at all, but they haven't realised that they've internalised so much of it. Because it is in all, it's in the media, it's in the culture, it's all in there. So it's for us about kind of trying to say to people, it's okay to see that now. And we need to start talking about it, and having really deep meaningful conversations about it, and how that might be impacting on the work that we're doing...2023-02-0217 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Sarah Doneghy"I found that when I was acting, there were no, I had to audition with monologues. And there were no monologues written for me, for a mixed girl. So I'm like, Well, I'm writing it. And then I was getting asked the What are you? questions so many times when I would go into auditions, that I wrote a monologue, and I it was called, I'm mixed and I walked in the room. They're like, Do you have a monologue? I was like, yes. And it started just to answer all the questions that it consists of, What are...2023-01-261h 07
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Creative collaboration with Darren Chetty"We're so sort of conditioned to think of writing as this solitary thing where one person tells you how it is - that collaboration is seen as, as less interesting."In this distilled episode Angie talks to Darren Chetty about his varied family background in Wales, the Netherlands and South Africa, and his focus on collaboration through his disparate work in anti racism in primary schools, academic writing, philosophy of education, Hip Hop Ed and DEI consultancy. Darren Chetty taught in London primary schools for twenty years before becoming a Teaching Fellow at UCL Institute o...2023-01-1916 min
Nothing Without UsHappy New Year and The Melanated Mastermind"I have had no reason to achieve the success that I have, to achieve the confidence that I have, to enjoy the life that I have. There is no reason that that should have happened to me, and it can't happen to you. And that's why I've developed this programme. That's why I want to work with you. Because I want you to feel what that feels like, as a woman of colour in your workplace, in your life, to show up and feel like you're in complete control of your destiny is just, it's just luminary." In...2023-01-1221 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Robin Bevan“I kind of realised that, probably from the age of maybe 15/16/17, that if you have advantage, if you have power, whether it is there by virtue of merit, or whether it's there by virtue of the way society is organised, that you can either use that power that influence that voice, to help transform the world into the world that you want to see. Or you can use it to shore things up to your own advantage. And although that's a kind of fairly bleak, split between the two, I also became convinced that if you do nothing, that is...2023-01-051h 07
Nothing Without UsA Being Luminary Masterclass: Listening to Your Stakeholders‘When was the last time you asked young people about identity and about how safe they feel to bring their identity into school. Because that's the starting point to mitigating attrition of both students and staff.’In this masterclass episode, Angie focuses on listening to your stakeholders, particularly on issues of race. She discusses how to narrow the gap between pupils’ perception of racist incidents and staff perceptions, and invites you to consider how your own school would address such issues.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full t...2022-12-2948 min
Nothing Without UsA Being Luminary Masterclass: Develop Your Team“Our ability to weather storms in our schools, I believe, rests on our ability to have skilful, and confident conversations with all of our stakeholders”In this masterclass episode, Angie presents a strategy for developing an SLT that can navigate stormy weather, going beyond just being good people to gain a DEI Intellectual Quotient leading to a DEI Emotional Quotient through deliberate practice.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/a-being-luminary-masterclass-develop-your-teamThis podc...2022-12-2245 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Steffan Griffiths“I think the idea of it being a golden ticket to being an insider, has already gone. And I think that's a good thing. I mean, I don't have a problem with it. And I think one of the big challenges for the independent sector is, is to ensure that we are fully integrated in society. And we are a force for good both institutionally and for the individuals that we send out into the world.”In this episode Angie talks to Steffan Griffiths about how he approaches DEI work while holding a lot of privileges. They also...2022-12-1545 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Cheryl Giovannoni“This is exciting, energising stuff. And while it's difficult, we shouldn't be cowed by that. Because it's through the difficulty that we will make real progress and start to chip away at some very embedded and deep issues that just need to have a light shone on them and that's why we should approach it in a very positive way” In this episode Angie talks to Cheryl Giovannoni about growing up in South Africa, and being a South African in Britain. They also discuss what makes girls’ schools valuable, and the DEI work that the Girls’ Day School Tr...2022-12-0841 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Russell Hobby“There are thousands of school leaders and teachers doing those sorts of things every day. And if they weren't, this country would be a lot worse place for this and we don't see it, reward it. I think government takes it for granted that this sort of glue is there. In many ways it sort of uses it, I think, but if we funded it properly, and resourced it and respected it that way, this could be a very powerful force for our country.”In this episode Angie talks to Russell Hobby about his origin story, from PPE...2022-12-0154 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Claire Bloor'For so many people in my generation who were raised with that kind of colorblind approach, they've always thought there's not no racism at all, but they haven't realised that they've internalised so much of it. Because it is in all, it's in the media, it's in the culture, it's all in there. So it's for us about kind of trying to say to people, it's okay to see that now. And we need to start talking about it, and having really deep meaningful conversations about it, and how that might be impacting on the work that we're doing...2022-11-2443 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Darren Chetty“I remember talking to my PhD supervisor at the time, and saying I'm really getting fed up with being the angriest person in the room. And his response was, you need to find yourself some new rooms.”In this episode Angie talks to Darren Chetty about his origin story, including his varied family background in the Netherlands and South Africa, and his focus on collaboration through his disparate work in anti racism in primary schools, academic writing, philosophy of education, Hip Hop Ed and DEI consultancy. Darren Chetty taught in London primary schools for twenty years...2022-11-1749 min
Nothing Without UsIn Focus: Angie's Origin Story"I often think I developed a way of being that is quite convenient, but actually on reflection, I think I was already destined to be that person. But notice, when I look back on how helpful that chameleon like aptitude was, as I made my way through school, because I was very able to put people at ease, very able to make people feel as though my race was not going to cause them any problem."In this distilled episode, Angie reflects on her childhood and first teaching experience, in coversation with Claire Stewart-Hall.Connect...2022-11-1014 min
Nothing Without UsSo what is The Being Luminary Programme?‘I really want schools to be places that shine a light on their own challenges in DEI and that shine a light on their own great practice because I believe that that kind of unrelenting focus and that willingness to look at every dark corner will change communities, will change society, will change individuals who work in organisations and will allow organisations to innovate in as yet unimagined ways. I think luminary organisations are great for the world. And the organisations that embrace this work boldly, are some of the most creative, curious, courageous and exciting places to work.’2022-11-0331 min
Nothing Without UsFollowing the breadcrumbs‘Just like every other story has been partial and imperfect, just like the coloniser story has been partial and imperfect, I give myself licence to tell a partial and imperfect story about myself’This episode is part two of Angie’s conversation with her long time friend and colleague Claire Stewart-Hall.They discuss the contributions that Angie’s previous roles have made to her current practice, modelling flexibility and reflection, self care, deciding what to let in, and Angie’s commitment to aesthetics.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA...2022-10-271h 04
Nothing Without UsAngie's Origin Story“I think I'm more taken by the breathtaking nature of what would happen if we just decentralised some of those voices, those activities that are currently dominated by the majority And I've become increasingly aware of just how brilliant people are.” In this episode, the tables are turned, and Angie is interviewed by her long time friend and colleague Claire Stewart-Hall.They discuss Angie’s origin story, from her childhood move from North London to Devon, through her teaching career to her motivation to work in the DEI space. Connect with Angie on her webs...2022-10-2054 min
Nothing Without UsIn Defence of DEI'In a perfect world, diversity, equity and inclusion would be an aspirational goal in any society, any classroom, any workplace.'This is a really short episode because I wanted to make an audio recording of a recent newsletter that has gone out from Being Luminary towers. And it's because it's been on my mind over the last couple of weeks. The newsletter itself was a response to some critique I had from a friend about the relevance and importance of diversity, equity and inclusion work. The feeling from my friend was that not only was this...2022-10-1308 min
Nothing Without UsWhat do you think?‘The system really needs to build in more accountability for it to do its work properly, and then to hold us to account for our silence and our avoidance of what are clearly institutional issues.’I've been reflecting this week on the murder of Chris Kaba. And thinking about how two years ago, people were very, very exercised about the murder of George Floyd. There's been relatively little notice taken of Chris Kaba in this country, somewhat overshadowed by the recent death of Queen Elizabeth II and so it's just given me pause, really, again to think abou...2022-10-0610 min
Nothing Without UsLooking forward to Season 2A quick update from Angie, about Season 2 of Being Luminary, which begins on Thursday 6th October 2022.Make sure you follow the podcast, wherever you're listening, so that you don't miss the new episodes coming soon. Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/looking-forward-to-season-2This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music is by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media an...2022-09-2204 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Confident leadership with Will Smith‘If you haven't got someone symbolising the strength and power of diversity, as well as having the systems to back it up. It fails, it doesn't work. Whenever we're doing anything, and whenever we're producing anything, we say why’In this distilled episode Angie talks to Will Smith, CEO of Greenshaw Learning Trust, about using experience to motivate change, and bringing people onboard by embracing diversity of opinions and explaining why.Will Smith is a Physics teacher, and was leader of the PiXL network for a number of years. He is now Chief Executive Officer of G...2022-08-0417 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Creating inclusive culture, with Abby Bayford“There never is a barrier; it's only a perceived barrier”In this distilled episode Angie talks to Abby Bayford, Director of Institute at the Academy Transformation Trust, a national multi-academy trust, about discovering that difference can be talked about, and should be shared by the people who experience it.Abby has been a qualified teacher for 14 years, working in and supporting a range of schools in the Midlands. Abby now leads on people development across all directorates for all employees at Academy Transformation Trust. Abby has been invited to share this work at national events; she...2022-07-2814 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Negotiating boundaries with Claire Stewart-Hall"There have been thresholds in my life where I have actually dug into what I've thought, rather than be binary. I obviously got through, I did it through education. So I learned about the history of lesbian and gay and trans people. I learned about women's history, I learned about black history. And I learned that people have always navigated those boundaries, and those thresholds and created lives for themselves."In this episode distilled episode, Angie talks to Claire Stewart-Hall founder of Equitable Coaching. Claire served as a leader in schools in the UK for twenty years...2022-07-2114 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Nurturing inclusion with Dave Baker"I've had to have a lot of conversations. I've been to a lot of funerals. But it's really important to do that stuff. And to be able to talk about it and support people through those situations, and being able to write to them and have the conversation rather than shy away from it and say to other people, you need to do that."In this distilled episode Angie talks to Dave Baker, CEO of the Olympus Academy Trust. They discuss the influence of Dave’s childhood in a busy vicarage on his leadership style, and his ap...2022-07-1414 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Finding identity with Bennie Kara"I haven't got the knowledge. You know, we're sharing knowledge, we're transmitting that knowledge between us, we're shaping it between us. And sometimes that comes with truths, you know, things that are hard to swallow, things that are unpalatable, to kind of keep extending this metaphor. And that's okay."In this distilled episode, Angie talks to Bennie Kara about finding her identity in terms of both race and sexuality.You can find the full conversation in Episode 6 Bennie Kara is a deputy headteacher in the East Midlands, specialising in curriculum, teaching and learning. S...2022-07-0714 min
Nothing Without UsIn focus: Micro signals with Andy Buck“I think our beliefs about the world, yes, are are formed by the very big messages that we get. But I actually believe that they're even more informed and I don't know what the evidence is for this, this is just my view, but are even more formed by all the little things that happen to you on a day to day basis.” In this distilled episode, Andy Buck talks about creating positive micro signals for his students and his legacy in education.Listen to the full episode here - Being Luminary Episode 5A geo...2022-06-3013 min
Nothing Without UsFrom the archive - In conversation with Alison Peacock“I started talking about an alternative improvement agenda that wasn't based on blaming people, wasn't based on labelling children, it wasn't based on tracking performance. It was essentially based on on openness and questioning and inventiveness and so on, that was all about a highly inclusive way of thinking about teaching and learning.”A second chance to hear Angie talk to Dame Alison Peacock, Chief Executive of the Chartered College of Teaching and originator of Learning Without Limits about her motivation, her career and the future of the Chartered College of Teaching. They discuss how to ensure that...2022-06-2350 min
Nothing Without UsEngaging Stakeholders in DEI Work“When we think about parental engagement, I’m encouraging us to just sit in that space between praise and blame, and really lean into compassion and non-judgement.”In this solo episode of Being Luminary, Angie explores how we can cultivate fertile ground through trust, compassion and openness, to better work with parents as we strengthen our DEI work in schools. She ends with posing some questions you can use to support your work with stakeholders.Read more in Lighting the Way: the case for ethical leadership in schools, by Angela BrowneConnect with Angie...2022-06-1627 min
Nothing Without UsQuestions We Can Ask Ourselves“It turned out that I could not be an innocent bystander, and the more I understood this, the more it became possible for people to ask me for help”In this episode Angie shares five of the prompts that she gives her podcast guests, to tease out their stories, and their personal reflections on diversity, equity and inclusion work.In doing so, she shares her own thoughts from her blog about the prompts, and encourages you to think what your answers would be.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk2022-06-0929 min
Nothing Without UsRecruiting with Diversity in Mind“Really luminary work is recalibrating around being better places to be, for everyone”In this solo episode of Being Luminary, Angie encourages you to stop playing DEI whack-a-mole and focus on being intersectional in all aspects of recruitment and retention.Angie highlights areas of recruitment that tend to be overlooked, and gives three practical ways to attract a more diverse talent pool.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/recruiting-with-diversity-in-mindThis...2022-06-0226 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Will Smith‘If you haven't got someone symbolising the strength and power of diversity, as well as having the systems to back it up. It fails, it doesn't work. Whenever we're doing anything, and whenever we're producing anything, we say why’In this episode Angie talks to Will Smith, CEO of Greenshaw Learning Trust, about using experience to motivate change, and bringing people onboard by embracing diversity of opinions and explaining why.Will Smith is a Physics teacher, and was leader of the PiXL network for a number of years. He is now Chief Executive Officer of Gree...2022-05-2653 min
Education On Fire - Sharing creative and inspiring learning in our schools253: ‘Lighting the Way’: The Case for Ethical Leadership in Schools with Angela BrowneAngela Browne is a former education leader, director of a coaching and consultancy company and founder of ‘Havn’ (Danish for ‘Harbour’) an online space for women. She provides transformational leadership coaching, personal development programmes and luminary diversity equity and inclusion consulting to organisations desiring deep and sustainable change.Angela is a researcher in the field of diversity, equity and inclusion and is undertaking her PhD within the Centre for Race Education and Decoloniality at Leed’s Beckett University. Her book ‘Lighting the Way’: The Case for Ethical Leadership in Schools (published by Bloomsbury) brings her passion for et...2022-05-2345 min
Nothing Without UsLest we Forget“At the heart of diversity, equity, inclusion work for me, is a desire to be respectful enough to know who we remember and why.”In the wake of the terrorist attack in Buffalo, and the anniversary of the death of George Floyd, a reminder of why and for whom we do this work.Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/lest-we-forgetThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was...2022-05-1923 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Abby Bayford“There never is a barrier; it's only a perceived barrier”In this episode Angie talks to Abby Bayford, Director of Institute at the Academy Transformation Trust, a national multi-academy trust, about discovering that difference can be talked about, and should be shared by the people who experience it.Abby has been a qualified teacher for 14 years, working in and supporting a range of schools in the Midlands. Abby now leads on people development across all directorates for all employees at Academy Transformation Trust. Abby has been invited to share this work at national events; she has...2022-05-1248 min
Nothing Without UsLoving the complexityIs following a framework enough when it comes to diversity, equity, inclusion work? What motivates us to do the work?In this solo episode of Being Luminary, Angie looks at why it is important to explore the culture and practice of your organization as part of DEI work, and why one size may not fit all.Find out more about the Luminary Leadership of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Programme visit www.angelabrowne.co.uk/luminary-leadership-deiConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this e...2022-05-0521 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Claire Stewart-Hall“I got comfortable with challenge, challenging spaces, challenging people, challenging, being the question asker, being the disrupter, I guess, because that's how my family viewed me. The coming out was disruptive.” In this episode Angie talks to Claire Stewart-Hall founder of Equitable Coaching. Claire served as a leader in schools in the UK for twenty years in urban areas of economic disadvantage and poverty and has experience of supporting creativity, positivity and self-organising systems to enable positive cultures to grow.They talk about Claire’s childhood growing up with a Protestant father and an Irish Catholi...2022-04-2850 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Dave Baker“I suppose I want to move beyond the point of staff, being nervous and feeling they can't say stuff because they're frightened, they're not going to say the right stuff, we got to get beyond that and just start to be honest about where, where we're uncomfortable, and start to confront the uncomfortable so that we can move into a different place.” In this episode Angie talks to Dave Baker, CEO of the Olympus Academy Trust, a family of 9 schools working together within a multi-academy trust to provide the best possible educational experience and outcomes for young peopl...2022-04-2141 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Bennie Kara“I think luminary work … is a process of truth gathering, and acknowledging that there are truths that you might not be comfortable with. So you know, the questions you ask of yourself, as a teacher, for example - what are the truths of our workplace? What are the truths for the adults and what truths for the children and recognising the truth for someone else, might be completely different from your own truth.”In this episode Angie talks to Bennie Kara about her work in diversity. Bennie shares her experience of feeling like an outsider to both her ho...2022-04-1444 min
Nothing Without UsIn conversation with Andy Buck“I think our beliefs about the world, yes, are are formed by the very big messages that we get. But I actually believe that they're even more informed and I don't know what the evidence is for this, this is just my view, but are even more formed by all the little things that happen to you on a day to day basis.” In this episode Angie talks to Andy Buck about his teaching career, his regret at not being ‘out’ to the pupils in his care, and his work to build a legacy in coaching.A geogr...2022-04-0743 min
Nothing Without UsThe Problem With Psychological SafetyHow do we create psychological safety for people who hold marginalised and intersectional identities? How do we support people who hold these identities in bringing their voices into the organisation that we're working in creatively, in ways that will actually help our organisations develop, in ways that will actually help our organisations become luminary? Find out more about the Luminary Leadership of Diversity Equity and Inclusion Programme www.angelabrowne.co.uk/luminary-leadership-deiConnect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at b...2022-03-3126 min
Nothing Without UsThe Myth Of Thick SkinTrigger warning - this podcast contains depictions of both physical and emotional torture and pain. Listener discretion is advised. Somebody asked me recently, what I thought might be different about my life, had I been born in a different skin in less brown skin? And my immediate response was, how could I possibly know? We none of us really know, do we, what the other person experiences. But the thought of not experiencing this life, as someone with brown skin has never really occurred to me, has never really been something that I have tried t...2022-03-2424 minNothing Without UsIn conversation with Alison Peacock“I started talking about an alternative improvement agenda that wasn't based on blaming people, wasn't based on labelling children, it wasn't based on tracking performance. It was essentially based on on openness and questioning and inventiveness and so on, that was all about a highly inclusive way of thinking about teaching and learning.”In this episode Angie talks to Dame Alison Peacock, Chief Executive of the Chartered College of Teaching and originator of Learning Without Limits about her motivation, her career and the future of the Chartered College of Teaching. They discuss how to ensure that our disa...2022-03-2450 min
Nothing Without UsWelcome to Being LuminaryIntroducing Being Luminary, the new podcast from Angie Browne.In this podcast, you are going to get to hear a combination of my thoughts on how we can be luminary. I'm going to be talking across this vast topic area of diversity, equity and inclusion. I'm going to be shining a light on the complexities of holding some of these marginalized and intersectional identities. I'm going to be talking through the lens of sex, sexual orientation, religion and belief, through the lens of age, through the lens of trans inclusion, through the lens of gender, through the...2022-03-1728 min