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Lion Counseling PodcastStory, Symbol, and Meaning: Another Legacy Highlight with Jonathan Pageau🎙️ Episode 52 – Story, Symbol, and Meaning: Another Legacy Highlight with Jonathan PageauIn this second Lion Legacy Highlight with Orthodox icon carver and symbolic thinker Jonathan Pageau, we dive even deeper into the intersection of faith, art, EMDR therapy, and how storytelling reveals hidden meaning in our lives.Jonathan reflects on the cultural moment we're in—where meaning is collapsing for many, and how recovering symbolic thinking may be the key to healing our fractured world.🔍 We explore:Why modern culture feels fragmented, anxious, and void of meaningThe collapse of religious authority an...
2026-02-2405 min
Lion Counseling PodcastStop Being the Emotional Punching Bag - Boundaries Aren’t Punishment🎙️ Episode 51 – Stop Being the Emotional Punching Bag | Boundaries Aren’t PunishmentWhat if the most loving thing you could do in your marriage… is stop tolerating disrespect?In this episode, Mark and Zack tackle a pattern we see constantly in our counseling offices: good men who love their wives, own their mistakes, work hard for their families—and still feel like the emotional punching bag years later.Criticism doesn’t expire.Disrespect becomes normal.And eventually the question surfaces:“If I want to stay… what am I supposed to do?”
2026-02-1731 min
Lion Counseling PodcastWhy High Achievers Feel Lonely: The Inner Critic Driving Success | A Lion Legacy Conversation with Matt Anderson🎙️ Episode 50 – The Inner Critic Behind High Achievement—and Why Success Can Feel Lonely | A Lion Legacy Conversation with Matt AndersonWhat if your drive to succeed isn’t actually about winning—but about belonging?In this powerful Lion Legacy Conversation, Mark Odland sits down with strategist, coach, and author Matt Andersonto explore the hidden emotional cost of high achievement. Together, they unpack how work ethic, discipline, and success—while valuable—can quietly become substitutes for connection, love, and acceptance.At the center of the conversation is a haunting moment from Matt’s past, when a ment...
2026-02-1037 min
Lion Counseling PodcastA Therapist Reacts to Ted Lasso Getting Therapy🎙️ Episode 49 – A Therapist Reacts to Ted Lasso Getting TherapyWhat happens when one of TV’s most optimistic characters finally sits down in the therapist’s chair?In this episode of the Lion Counseling Podcast, Mark Odland and Zack Carter react to a powerful therapy scene from Ted Lasso—and break it down through the lens of real-world counseling, EMDR, and how men actually experience therapy. There’s no cheap takedown here. Just an honest, thoughtful analysis of what the show gets right, where it oversimplifies things, and what this scene reveals about fear, defensive...
2026-02-0324 min
Lion Counseling PodcastFinding Meaning in Suffering: A Legacy Highlight with Jonathan Pageau🎙️ Episode 48 – Finding Meaning in Suffering: A Legacy Highlight with Jonathan PageauWhat if suffering wasn’t just something to escape—but an invitation to transform?In this short but profound highlight from our full-length interview, symbolic thinker and artist Jonathan Pageau reflects on how symbolic stories, biblical patterns, and personal failures reveal deeper meaning—even in the darkest seasons.We discuss:How symbolic thinking helps us cope with traumaWhy every loss contains the seed of new creationThe difference between humility and wallowing in shameHow suffering can become a spiritual opportunityThe power of atte...
2026-01-2707 min
Lion Counseling PodcastWhy EMDR Therapy Works – Trauma, Anger, and the Brain Explained: EMDR Lesson #2🎙️ Episode 47: Why EMDR Therapy Works – Trauma, Anger, and the Brain Explained: EMDR Lesson #2Why do traumatic experiences keep showing up years later—through anxiety, anger, addiction, or relationship conflict—even when you know you’re safe now?In this episode, Mark Odland breaks down why EMDR therapy works by walking through two powerful, fictionalized case examples that reflect what many people experience in real life:• A combat veteran struggling with rage, numbness, and addiction• A married couple caught in painful, repetitive arguments that are never really about the dishesUsing clear language, vivid metaphors...
2026-01-2011 min
Lion Counseling PodcastWhy You’re Not Motivated (And What Actually Works)🎙️ Episode 46 – Why You’re Not Motivated (And What Actually Works)Most men think they fail at their goals because they’re lazy or undisciplined.That’s wrong.In this episode of the Lion Counseling Podcast, Mark Odland and Zack Carter break down the three real reasons men struggle with motivation—and why forcing discipline usually backfires. Drawing from real client stories, CBT principles, and practical coaching tools, this conversation moves beyond hype and into strategies that actually create momentum and staying power.Instead of burning out on New Year’s resolutions, this episode will...
2026-01-1334 min
Lion Counseling PodcastEpisode 45 – How Trauma Shapes the Brain (And How Healing Is Possible) - Part 1🎙️ Episode 45 – How Trauma Shapes the Brain (And How Healing Is Possible) - Part 1We live in a world shaped by loss, stress, and unresolved pain. From global crises to family hardship, illness, broken relationships, and personal regret, emotional wounds are everywhere — even when we try to ignore them.In this episode, Mark Odland, licensed therapist and EMDR consultant, explains how past experiences quietly shape the brain, influence our reactions, and impact our health, relationships, and sense of purpose. Drawing from decades of research — including the landmark ACE (Adverse Childhood Experiences) Study — Mark shows why unprocess...
2026-01-0616 min
Lion Counseling PodcastPageau - Why Your Grandmother’s Love is More Real Than Your TraumaPageau - Why Your Grandmother’s Love is More Real Than Your TraumaIn this Legacy Highlight, Jonathan Pageau and Mark Odland explore one of the most profound ideas to ever come out of trauma work: the memories that give life are more real than the ones that destroy it. Mark describes how EMDR helps men see old wounds with new clarity -calmer, farther away, and no longer the center of their identity. Jonathan expands this into a powerful spiritual truth: trauma is a negation of being, but love - especially the love you’ve rece...
2025-12-3006 min
Lion Counseling PodcastAre We Catastrophizing the Rise of AI? A Christian Counseling Perspective🎙️ Episode 43 | Are We Catastrophizing the Rise of AI? A Christian Counseling PerspectiveAI is advancing fast—and for many men, it’s triggering anxiety about jobs, purpose, meaning, and the future of humanity itself. Are we headed for paradise… or a Terminator-style nightmare?In this episode of the Lion Counseling Podcast, Mark Odland and Zack Carter tackle the fear-driven thinkingsurrounding AI, using a viral Joe Rogan & Elon Musk clip as a springboard. From a Christian counseling perspective, they unpack why our brains catastrophize, how to think more clearly about worst-case scenarios, and where real...
2025-12-2322 min
Lion Counseling PodcastThe “Let Them” Theory Might Be Hurting Your Relationships🎙️ Episode 42 | The “Let Them” Theory Might Be Hurting Your RelationshipsThe “Let Them” theory—popularized by Mel Robbins—sounds freeing: stop trying to control people and just let them be who they are. But is it wisdom… or a subtle way to avoid conflict, accountability, and emotional repair?In this episode, Christian counselors Mark Odland (EMDR therapist) and Zack Carter analyze the Let Them theory using real video clips, clinical experience, and a faith-informed psychological lens. We break down when this idea truly brings peace—and when it quietly sabotages intimacy, healing, and leadership in men’s l...
2025-12-1633 min
Lion Counseling PodcastJonathan Pageau: Wallowing Is Pride — How Guilt, Shame & Memory Lead to Transformation🎙️ Jonathan Pageau: Wallowing Is Pride — How Guilt, Shame & Memory Lead to TransformationIn this rare and powerful short-form conversation, Orthodox icon carver and symbolic thinker Jonathan Pageau unpacks the hidden pride inside our guilt, the spiritual dangers of wallowing, and how biblical memory is the path to true humility and healing.Therapist Mark Odland (EMDR specialist and host of the Lion Counseling Podcast) shares symbolic stories—from drowning lifeguards to the thief on the cross—to reveal how men get stuck in shame and what it actually means to be remembered by God.What y...
2025-12-0209 min
Lion Counseling PodcastWhen God Feels Silent: The Dark Night of the Soul🎙️ Episode 39 – When God Feels Silent: The Dark Night of the SoulHave you ever prayed and felt absolutely nothing? Have you been hit with doubts, spiritual confusion, or the terrifying sense that God has gone silent? In this raw and honest episode, Mark Odland shares his personal story of walking through the “dark night of the soul”—a season where faith felt distant, prayer felt empty, and life’s pain stripped away every illusion of certainty.Whether you’re a Christian man battling burnout, grief, doubt, or emotional numbness, this episode will help you understand wh...
2025-11-2524 min
VierListDas Spielejahr 2015 - Part 1Im Jahr 2015 begleiten wir zwei junge Frauen auf einer emotionalen Zeitreise voller schwerer Entscheidungen, ziehen als Elitesoldaten durch ein düsteres, nebelverhangenes London und stellen uns in einem albtraumhaften Königreich Kreaturen, die uns keine Fehler verzeihen. Wir erkunden eine riesige Fantasy-Welt, die bis heute zu den lebendigsten ihrer Art zählt, katapultieren Autos in ein völlig neues Sportgenre und sprengen uns in bester 2D-Manier durch endlose Gegnerwellen. Zum Abschluss kehren wir in ein postnukleares Ödland zurück, um eine verschollene Spur in einer zerstörten Welt wiederzufinden. Viel Spaß beim Wiederentdecken dieses besonderen Spielejahres! Youtube:https...
2025-11-191h 12
Lion Counseling PodcastThe 3 Types of Men: Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs🎙️ Episode 38 – The 3 Types of Men: Sheep, Wolves, and SheepdogsIn this short but powerful episode, Mark and Zack break down a timeless framework for understanding masculinity — and challenge you to examine what kind of man you really are.Are you a sheep who avoids conflict and responsibility? A wolf who uses strength for selfish gain? Or a sheepdog, dangerous but disciplined — a protector, provider, and man of virtue?Drawing from movies, stories, and real client experiences, we explore how men move through these three stages and what it takes to step into your calling as...
2025-11-1835 min
Lion Counseling PodcastThe EMDR Gauntlet: 3 Days That Can Change Your Life🎙️ Episode 37 – The EMDR Gauntlet: 3 Days That Can Change Your LifeWhat if you could complete 3 months of deep trauma therapy in just 3 days? This short episode is different. It’s not just another interview or conversation—it's a direct invitation... an invitation from the world-leader in helping high-achieving Christian men heal from trauma.In this rare, 5-minute solo episode, Mark Odland (Certified EMDR Therapist and founder of Lion Counseling) introduces a powerful new serviceThe EMDR Gauntlet, a life-altering 3-day intensive for high-performing men who are ready to finally deal with what’s holding the...
2025-11-1105 min
Lion Counseling PodcastIf You Had One Year Left… Would You Still Work This Much?🎙️ If You Had One Year Left… Would You Still Work This Much?In this episode, we explore how contemplating death can clarify your priorities and help you fix your work-life balance before it’s too late.From young entrepreneurs to seasoned executives, most men struggle with knowing when to hustle and when to rest. This conversation blends humor, personal stories, and practical wisdom to help you redefine success, realign your values, and avoid burnout.What you’ll learn in this episode:• The biggest lie about “balance”• How death contemplation can bring clarity• Why your work...
2025-11-0423 min
Lion Counseling PodcastWhy Your Relationships Keep Falling Apart (Attachment Styles Explained)🎙️ Episode 35 – Why Your Relationships Keep Falling Apart (Attachment Styles Explained)Why do your relationships always seem to blow up or fizzle out? Why does closeness feel so hard—or even scary?In this powerful episode of the Lion Counseling Podcast, Mark Odland and Zack Carter unpack how your attachment style shapes the way you love, fight, and even parent. Whether you're the one who always pulls away or the one who clings too tightly, there’s a reason—and there’s a path forward.👉 Ready for the next step?SCHEDULE A FREE, 30-MINUTE...
2025-10-2847 min
Lion Counseling PodcastSteel in the Soul: A Conversation with Stephen Mansfield🎙️ Episode 33 – Steel in the Soul: A Conversation with Stephen MansfieldThis is a Lion Legacy Conversation — a long-form interview highlighting the wisdom, resilience, and faith of remarkable men.In this powerful episode, Mark Odland sits down with Stephen Mansfield, New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and founder of the Great Man movement. Together, they explore fatherhood, masculine identity, suffering, trauma, heritage, and the responsibility every man has to shape his own story — not through victimhood, but through agency, gratitude, and legacy.Whether you were raised by mighty warriors or grew up without a father figure, thi...
2025-10-2142 min
Lion Counseling PodcastReal Therapy Isn’t Comfortable: Why You Need to Face the Pain🎙️ Episode 33 – Real Therapy Isn’t Comfortable: Why You Need to Face the PainWhat if the true path to healing isn’t found in comfort—but in courage?In this powerful episode, Mark Odland and Zack Carter unpack what therapy is really about—and why the popularized version of “feel-good therapy” often misses the mark for men. Using imagery from samurai sword-forging and field-tested coaching insights, they challenge men to face emotional pain head-on—not to suffer, but to transform.Whether you’re skeptical of therapy or already in it, this episode will reframe ho...
2025-10-1421 min
Lion Counseling PodcastShould Men Be Skeptical of Therapy?🎙️ Episode 32 – Should Men Be Skeptical of Therapy?In this episode of the Lion Counseling Podcast, Certified EMDR Therapist Mark Odland takes a bold and honest look at a topic many men are quietly thinking about but rarely say out loud: Should men be skeptical of therapy?The answer? Yes—and no.Mark explores why discernment is essential when choosing a counselor or therapist—especially for men with traditional values, Christian faith, or a strong desire for personal responsibility and accountability.🧠Topics Covered:Why many therapists are unknowingly biased against menThe problem...
2025-10-0729 min
Lion Counseling PodcastEpisode 31 – How to Create a Career (Even If You’re Stuck)🎙️ Episode 31 – How to Create a Career (Even If You’re Stuck)Forget “finding your dream job.” What if your dream career doesn't exist yet… because you're meant to build it?In this episode of the Lion Counseling Podcast, Mark and Zack explore what it means to create meaningful work in a world that often pressures men to “figure it all out” by 25. They break down the difference between a job and a career, how to reframe all-or-nothing thinking, and why your past experiences (even the weird ones) might be more connected than you think.Wh...
2025-09-3041 min
Lion Counseling PodcastWhat I Learned from Dr. John Deloney (and How It Can Help You Build a Non-Anxious Life)🎙️ Episode 30 – What I Learned from Dr. John Deloney (and How It Can Help You Build a Non-Anxious Life)👉 Ready for the next step? SCHEDULE A FREE, 30-MINUTE CONSULT with Mark or Zack at: https://escapethecagenow.com/call/In this solo episode of The Lion Counseling Podcast, Mark Odland shares the unexpected story of meeting Dr. John Deloney at a Texas cattle ranch during the EntreLeadership Summit—and how that brief but powerful encounter inspired a deeper reflection on anxiety, integrity, and the daily choices that shape our emotional resilience.But this isn’t just a story—i...
2025-09-2433 min
Lion Counseling PodcastForgiveness: Why It Feels Impossible (And How to Actually Do It)🎙️ Episode 29 – Forgiveness: Why It Feels Impossible (And How to Actually Do It)Forgiveness sounds good in theory—until you’re the one who’s been hurt.In this powerful episode of the Lion Counseling Podcast, Mark Odland (EMDR Therapist) and Zack Carter (Counselor and Coach) unpack the emotional, relational, and spiritual dynamics that make forgiveness so difficult—and show you how to actually walk it out without pretending the pain didn’t matter. Whether you’ve been betrayed by a friend, deeply hurt by a family member, or struggling to forgive yourself, this episode offers both...
2025-09-1623 min
Lion Counseling PodcastGrieving Charlie Kirk: A Christian Counseling Perspective on Tragedy and Healing🎙️ Episode 28 – Grieving Charlie Kirk: A Christian Counseling Perspective on Tragedy and HealingIn this special episode of The Lion Counseling Podcast, Mark Odland and Zack Carter respond to the tragic and violent death of Charlie Kirk from a Christian counseling perspective. As husbands, fathers, and mental health professionals, they unpack the emotional weight of this national trauma and guide listeners through the 4 Tasks of Mourning by J. William Worden.Whether you were a follower of Charlie’s work or are simply shaken by the wave of violence and grief in our world, this episode will help you...
2025-09-1246 min
Lion Counseling PodcastProcrastination: Why You Do It (And How to Make It Work for You)🎙️ Episode 27 – Procrastination: Why You Do It (And How to Make It Work for You)If you’ve ever found yourself asking, “Why do I keep putting this off?”—this episode is for you.In this episode of the Lion Counseling Podcast, Mark Odland (Certified EMDR Therapist) and Zack Carter (Counselor & Coach) break down the 3 types of procrastination—and explain why your brain might actually be working for you, not against you.You’ll learn:✅ Why procrastination is often biologically wired✅ The difference between idealistic, avoidance, and operational procrastination✅ How perfectionism...
2025-09-0924 min