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Narativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | The Stories We Choose to Tell with Jim O'GormanIn this episode of Leadership Story Talks, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with Jim O’Gorman to explore how formative leadership experiences—both painful and inspiring—shape the way we show up for others at work.Jim opens with a candid story from early in his career: working for a deeply toxic boss and the toll it took on his confidence, health, and sense of self. That experience became a defining catalyst, ultimately guiding him toward a career dedicated to people strategy, trust, and humane leadership.From there, the conversation moves into Jim’s time o...
2026-02-0234 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Stereotypes & the Power of PrecisionIn this debrief, Jerome and Julienne reflect on their conversation with Dr. Anja Timmerman—an exchange that reminded them how a single, small human moment can reshape how we see a place, a culture, or a community. Anja’s story about arriving in New York for the first time becomes a doorway into her passion for community-building and the global storytelling symposium she now leads.What starts as a reflection on kindness from strangers becomes an exploration of how personal stories disrupt stereotypes, soften assumptions, and open the door to deeper understanding between people who might never othe...
2025-12-0110 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Identity, Change & The Story You Tell NowIn this debrief, Jerome and Julienne reflect on their conversation with Dr. LaNysha Adams and her powerful reminder that identity isn’t fixed—it’s chosen. Drawing on her insights, they explore why “bringing your whole self to work” isn’t about dragging every version of yourself into every room, but about being intentional, adaptable, and honest about who you need to be right now.What begins as a discussion about roles—parent, leader, teammate, creator—quickly becomes a broader reflection on navigating uncertainty, evolving past outdated labels, and telling the story that actually serves you in this moment of c...
2025-11-1710 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Selling With StoriesIn this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their engaging conversation with Alex Smith, a dynamic thought leader on sales and persuasion. Alex's perspective, rooted in Dan Pink's To Sell Is Human, challenges traditional notions of sales by focusing on human connection, active listening, and storytelling as key elements of persuasion and influence.This episode offers a fresh take on how storytelling can transform everyday interactions into opportunities for authentic connection and meaningful change.You’ll Hear:The Misconceptions of Sales: Exploring the negative pe...
2025-01-2010 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Unpacking BoxesIn this special episode of Leadership Story Talks, co-hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan explore the metaphorical and literal significance of boxes in a conversation titled "Unpacking Boxes." Inspired by Julienne’s long-standing curiosity about Jerome’s bookshelf boxes, they delve into the symbolism, stories, and personal growth tied to what we choose to keep, store, and revisit in our lives.Highlights from the Conversation:A Personal Anecdote: Jerome shares the story of receiving a closed box from the founders of Narativ, which ultimately led to his role as CEO. The box symb...
2024-12-2311 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Inspiring Change with Pearl Alexander, JDIn this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome the inspiring Pearl Alexander, JD, a transformational leader in organizational culture and higher education. Pearl shares her remarkable journey from her early career in HR at Georgia Tech to her influential work in fostering inclusion and belonging. With over 35 years of experience, Pearl has catalyzed meaningful cultural transformations and empowered leaders to create thriving workplaces.This episode is brimming with profound insights, authentic stories, and actionable advice for leaders, professionals, and anyone interested in building inclusive and resilient organizational cultures....
2024-12-0240 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Difficult ConversationsIn this episode of Julienne and Jerome debrief a previous conversation with Jennifer Gardner. Discussing the impact and techniques of storytelling in professional settings, They connect storytelling to leadership, particularly in delivering difficult messages. They share a story about a leader who used a personal journey metaphor to introduce a challenging topic, which helped her team engage more openly with finding solutions. This episode emphasizes the importance of staying present after sharing a story to gather the valuable feedback that emerges.Jerome and Julienne underline that storytelling is not an innate skill for everyone but...
2024-11-1113 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Navigating Difficult Conversations with Todd Davis"If we realize, wait a minute, I can reduce the pain, and actually I can make progress if I focus first and foremost on balancing my needs and theirs, and if I get real clear on that balance of what we call courage and consideration."In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Todd Davis, a senior consultant and thought leader at Franklin Covey with over 35 years of experience in human resources, talent development, and executive recruiting. Todd's been with Franklin Covey for 28 plus years and until recently spent 18 of those years as Chief People Officer and...
2024-06-0333 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Pay EquityIn this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss pay equity from their talk with Sally Loftis of Loftis Partners in Episode #92Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e...
2024-05-2708 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Pay Equity with Sally Loftis"Are you engaging people who are just trying to survive day to day and pay their bills? Or do you engage with people who have the capacity to dream and innovate for your company, because those day-to-day concerns are taken care of?"In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Sally Loftis. She's the managing director at Loftis Partners, a 100% woman-owned human resource resources consulting firm in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. Loftis Partners specializes in strategy, people facilitation, and pay justice and works at the intersection of human resources, organizational development, and social justice...
2024-05-2035 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Listening to Our AncestorsIn this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss learning from our ancestors from their talk with Craig Delarge in Episode #89Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team...
2024-05-1309 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Mental Health in the Age of Digital Technology with Craig Delarge"May we have a level of wisdom and literacy and will and purpose that allows us to rise to the occasion of using our technologies to keep ourselves and our children healthy."In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Craig DeLarge. Craig is a digital healthcare strategist, mental health advocate, and educator at the Digital Mental Health Project, where he produces education and research, helping to improve the responsible adoption of digital technology and behavioral health services and therapies. As a digital and healthcare marketer, strategist, and educator, he's worked in world-class firms like Novo Nordisk...
2024-05-0654 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Listening With PeopleIn this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss listening with people from their talk with Corine Jansen in Episode #87Notes*Learn more about the Global Listening Movement *Find Corine Jansen on LinkedInNarativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV...
2024-04-2912 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Listening With People with Corine Jansen"We should take more time for self-awareness and reflection to become aware of our instruments. How do we resonate with people with different views or different morals? Am I really curious to know the other, or just to get an answer?"In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Corine Jansen. Corine has over three decades of experience in communications and management across diverse sectors. She was the Chief Listening Officer at the Reshape Center for Healthcare Innovation, focusing on impactful interactions with cancer patients and their families, and she recently co-founded the Global Listening Movement. They...
2024-04-2241 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | It's Always About PeopleIn this new series of shorter podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.When you're managing a project with multiple tasks and you're trying to complete the project, it's easy to see the project as a series of to-do's and deadlines. Don't forget that it's about people. Use storytelling and listening skills to bring the humanity back to your project and make people feel seen and heard. This will get people excited and motivated to support you in completing your goal. Kory Kogan's full episode is...
2024-04-1509 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Speaking the Language of Project Management with Kory Kogan"Every single person in the organization should understand the language of something (...), a leader should understand the language of project management, so they understand the foibles of it and the inspiration of it when they are assigning it to a project manager."In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Kory Kogan. She is FranklinCovey’s Vice President of Content and Senior Consultant. She's the Wall Street Journal bestselling co-author of The Five Choices, the Path to Extraordinary Productivity, and has appeared as an expert on today, MSNBC's your business, forbes.com inc.com, and on fast co...
2024-04-0844 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Giving Everyone a VoiceIn this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss giving everyone a voice, mentioned by Workplace Wellness Expert Erica Reed in Episode #83Notes*Learn more about Leading Well Solutions*Find Erica Reed on LinkedIn*Learn more about the online course “Leading with Empathy: A Trauma Informed Approach to Emotional Intelligence for HR Professionals and People Managers” hereNarativ’s online course in partnership with New Me...
2024-04-0107 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Creating Workplace Wellness by Increasing Emotional Intelligence with Erica Reed"If you don't know what to say and you're afraid of saying the wrong thing, you say nothing. And then you have to have an awareness of what that nothingness is communicating."In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Erica Reed. She's the founder of Leading Well Solutions, and she brings over 25 years of experience as a psychotherapist and workplace wellness expert to help managers become inclusive leaders with higher levels of emotional intelligence, improved communication skills, and the ability to optimize the unique strengths of employees. They talk about her journey from being a therapist...
2024-03-2537 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Intention + AttentionIn this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss using intention with attention mentioned by CEO and founder of WriterGirl Christy Pretzinger in Episode #81Notes* Find Christy Pretzinger on LinkedIn * Learn more about WriterGirl Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more...
2024-03-1810 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Building a Business Based on Kindness with Christy Pretzinger"When I first started my business, I said to my accountant at the time, if I can't build a business based on kindness, then I'll go back to being a freelance writer."In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Christy Pretzinger, a dynamic, visionary innovator who has transformed the landscape of healthcare content creation as the owner and CEO of WriterGirl. Christy has built an industry-leading organization that delivers top-notch content strategy and creation to the healthcare industry nationwide. Christy is also passionate about creating an environment where people can truly thrive and is dedicated to...
2024-03-1150 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Becoming AI Literate Citizens in a Global World with Melissa Drew“In order for us to be AI literate, we have to be aware of what and how much data we're creating. We have to understand when and how our personal data is being stored, shared, deleted, and sold to a third party. An AI literate citizen is someone who can feel confident that they understand how the data is being used in the products and services that they consume and interact with”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Melissa Drew, the founder of Simply Transformed, a company which guides digital transformation initiatives to leverage data stra...
2024-02-2645 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Data, Stories & Systemic Changes in Financial Health with Matt Bahl“How do we get employers to say that their workers are not risks to be managed but humans worthy of investment and dignity? That is a fundamental shift in the way that benefits are designed and oriented in a lot of contexts.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to their first returning guest! Matt Bahl is the Vice President of Market Lead Workplace Financial Health at the Financial Health Network. In his role, Matt leads the development of new capabilities, strategies, and partnerships to help employers achieve their financial health goals, and he is a nationally reco...
2024-02-1254 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Creating Human Connection in Healthcare & Beyond with Derek McCracken“Every conversation is a fresh performance. And even though we have skill sets we're bringing forward, that person is listening to this for the first time, and they are a new audience, and we have to meet them where they are.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Derek McCracken, a New York-based health equity activist who teaches narrative medicine, pedagogy and applied writing for Columbia School of Professional Studies and serves on the board of Say Ah!, which is a health literacy nonprofit agency. They talk about the importance of narratives to buil...
2024-01-2945 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Setting Intentions“What is your story right now? What's your story going to be for this year and beyond? January is always that month when you have an opportunity to sort of pause for just a minute and look at what's ahead and how you want to be.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about setting intentions. They explain the difference between resolutions, goals, and intentions, and Jerome tells Julienne more about his intention for this year, which is to seek opportunities to grow and choose to see even the hard things as an opportunity. They talk about mome...
2024-01-1520 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | How to Access Authenticity with Hava Horowitz“I'm thinking of authenticity on a moment-to-moment basis, in a threefold way: one, can I locate what feels true for me in this moment? This is that self-inventory piece. Two: Can I express what feels true for me in this moment? That's the communication piece. And, three, can I read the needs of the moment? Can I read my audience? Can I read my environment and adapt to that? Because your authenticity changes in response to your environment.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Hava Horowitz, a transformational coach and facilitator who helps entrepreneurs, leaders, and...
2024-01-0151 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Failing Forwards“We don't have control. We can only have control of what we're doing and how we're reacting, and appreciating how the other people might be watching this situation and seeing how we can pivot and shift.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on the episode they did recently with C.M. Conway, a filmmaker who made a movie called “How to Successfully Fail in Hollywood”. Julienne tells Jerome about a time when she had to give a big keynote speech, but then, out of nowhere, she suddenly also had to facilitate a panel discussion, and then the pane...
2023-12-1816 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Embracing Humanity in Storytelling and Leadership with Elena Valentine“I'd like to think that the stories that we tell on behalf of our clients are helping them remember their why, their reason for being, and why they exist today.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Elena Valentine. She is the co-founder and executive director of Skillscout, a creative studio dedicated to transforming brand stories into compelling visuals that inspire action and belief. She tells Jerome and Julienne about how her business started with the premise that ‘you cannot be what you cannot see’, and how that has influenced her work ever since. They talk about th...
2023-12-0445 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Why Story? Why Now?“Even if you've told a story a thousand times to different audiences, every time you're going to tell that story to a new audience in a new location, in a new venue, or at a new time, you still have to ask yourself that question. Because once you answer that question anew every time, you are going to show up in a very different way.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on the last episodes and discuss the importance of asking the question “why story, why now?”. Even if you’ve told a story a thousand times to d...
2023-11-2033 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Bringing the Human Edge with Lisa Danels“If each one of us is aligned in that space where we have access to our heart, head, and gut, we have an incredible capacity within ourselves and our organizations. We create more capacity than we could possibly ever use to solve the problems that are in front of us.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Lisa Danels. She is the founder and executive director of Human Edge, author of “The Human Edge Advantage: Mastering the Art of Being All In” and senior executive talent and leadership consultant and coach. Lisa focuses on devel...
2023-11-0646 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Finding The Funny (& more) After Failure with C.M. Conway“Once you get past the emotional reaction, what is this failure telling me? Is it telling me to stop? Is it telling me to persevere? Is it not the right time, or do I need to dig a little deeper, and do I maybe need to find another way? Do I need to find another day?”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk with C.M. Conway, a filmmaker, marketing, and storytelling consultant and coach. Her diverse, inspiring film “How to Successfully Fail in Hollywood'' became the little indie that could and is now available in a top st...
2023-10-2348 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Navigating Change & Emotion with Intention“Almost on a day-to-day basis, you hear things that you really do not believe in. It pushes your buttons, makes you angry, sad, upset, whatever it might be. It provokes a reaction, and the question is, what do you do with that?”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about a recent experience Julienne had that led her to reflect on the importance of taking a pause, and making sure that you deal with emotions like anger, rather than brushing over them and moving forward. They then reflect more broadly on the trends they are seeing in thei...
2023-10-0929 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Learning to Be Authentic with Ehsan Fahmi“There are all these different types of people that I've coached: men, women, executives, graduates, it doesn't matter. They all have the same challenge, and that challenge is how do I just be more myself in my job? It's literally this, and it all stems from the same cause, but it translates in different stories.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk with Ehsan Fahmi, Client Success Director and the Talent Enterprise. She is an expert in talent management, talent assessment, and customer success and is passionate about creating spaces where people can simply be. For Ehsan, impa...
2023-10-0239 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Data-Based DEI with Miranda McKie“You would go into these leadership meetings and for everything else it would be “okay, let me see the financials, let me see the numbers associated with it”. But diversity, equity, and inclusion was, “how do you feel”, right? And it would be, “how do you feel”, because we talked to maybe the five people of color at our organization, and that's how they feel.”In this episode, Julienne and Jerome talk to Miranda McKie, founder and CEO of McKie consultants. She has a proven track record of utilizing data-driven techniques to identify and mitigate systemic institutional barriers that im...
2023-09-2532 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | with Heather Hansen“We need to start inviting everyone to the table if we want to have innovation and growth, because we're losing half our talent here or more because we're hugely outnumbered as native English speakers. The fact that we have this immediate power and dominance in the world due to our eloquence in English, I see as a massive inequality.”In this fascinating episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about linguistic bias with Heather Hansen. She is on a mission to empower global voices to contribute to conversations that matter, and in her latest book, ‘Unmuted’, she outlines a framewor...
2023-09-1848 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Season TwoWelcome to a new season of Leadership Story Talks! In this episode, Jerome and Julienne kick off the new season and introduce the theme for this month: culture. How does an organizational culture shift in the face of the increasingly uncertain world that we’re in? What are the values that drive an organization, and individual people, and what happens to them in the face of change? Jerome and Jules have a classic back-to-school conversation as they look back at what they did during the summer and look ahead to all the lear...
2023-09-1113 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksREPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Leaders ListenThis is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on April 24th 2023.For this podcast series, Jerome and Julienne have been talking to many people about leadership. In this episode, they look back at the conversations they’ve had, talk about the things many of these leaders had in common, and share what they have learned so far.They talk about being anchored in your values, the ability to delegate but also go deep on something when needed, and the importance of collaboration and diversity of thought. The idea of...
2023-09-0413 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksREPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | From Athlete to CEO with Niall DunneThis is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on January 23rd 2023Julienne and Jerome speak to Niall Dunne, CEO of Polymateria, a company that is working on solving the enormous, worldwide problem of plastic pollutants.You’ll go on a fascinating journey as Niall tells us about how he started as a track and field athlete, met with Julienne’s husband and fellow Irishman, Joe Ryan, who was a coach at Manhattan College in the Bronx, New York. Niall ended up representing Ireland in the 800m run....
2023-08-2851 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksREPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Measuring Justice with Amy BachThis is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on March 27th 2023Julienne and Jerome speak with Amy Bach, founder and CEO of Measures for Justice, a criminal justice nonprofit that develops data tools and services that help communities, including the institutions that serve them, reshape the system.A journalism fellowship led to a book idea, the book led to an idea for an organization, and now that organization (60+ employees and growing) is reshaping the justice system. In this episode, Amy talks us through some of the most crucial...
2023-08-2145 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksREPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Learning to Keep Your Mouth Shut with Dan LyonsThis is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on March 20th 2023What do Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Tim Cook, Barack Obama, Richard Branson, and Larry King have in common? They are great listeners and know when to stop talking.In this episode Julienne and Jerome talk to Dan Lyons, New York Times bestselling author, screenwriter and journalist, about the power of talking less and listening more. Dan recently published ‘STFU: The Power of Keeping Your Mouth Shut in an Endlessly Noisy World’, a book he decided to write after real...
2023-08-1450 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksREPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Live Storytelling Coaching with Anna VafeiadouThis is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on December 13th 2022.Julienne and Jerome discuss how storytelling has enhanced their guest’s presentation and leadership skills. Anna Vafeiadou is responsible for the legal sector of the WWF (World Wildlife Fund) in Greece.As she had been increasingly asked to represent the work of the WWF through public speaking, she decided to enroll into a leadership development course at the MAVA foundation.She then worked with Jerome on her story to include into her presentations for a variety of st...
2023-08-0748 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksREPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Our Origin StoryThis is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on October 25th 2022.In this episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect back on their meeting.Julienne had reached out to Jerome and members of the Narativ team, that led to a meeting in person (pre-pandemic).During that first meeting, Julienne noticed that the Narativ team members were walking their talk, meaning they were listening and giving space to Julienne to speak.A dialogue ensued that mirrored the process that Julienne had seen glimpses of on the Narativ web site, materials...
2023-07-3143 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksREPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Socratic Dialogue with Sira AbenozaThis is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on April 11th 2022.In this episode Jerome and Julienne talk with Sira Abenoza, a professor at ESADE business and law schools in Barcelona, Spain.She created the Institute for Socratic Dialogue to create conversations between people who sometimes have diametrically opposing points of view.We discussed Sira’s experience working with inmates, as well as with factions from both sides of the conflict in Northern Ireland. The methods of Socratic Dialogue managed to create connection where there seemingly was no...
2023-07-2444 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksREPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Making The Workplace Work Better for Working People with Matt BahlThis is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on December 8th 2021.Jerome and Julienne talk with Matt Bahl – VP and head of workplace financial health, Financial Health Network.In this episode of Story Talks we discover:How do we make people’s lives better by improving their financial resilience?That salaries are not determinative of financial health.How can we make workplace work better for working people?Matt talks about how the catalytic moment for him was when he told the story of his father at a...
2023-07-1742 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Looking Back and Looking ForwardIt’s the last episode of the season! Jerome and Julienne take a moment to reflect on what they’ve learned from all the inspiring guests they had the privilege to talk to this season and how they can take that forward in their work. They discuss the novel perspectives on DEI and the importance of not only looking at issues through one lens and paying attention to how we show up.Jerome and Jules also provide a sneak peek into what is to come next season, including a thought leader in tech and someone who advocates for...
2023-07-1022 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | The Portfolio Life with Christina WallaceAre you interested in many different things, and if so, have you permitted yourself to be all of who you are? How do you build a (professional) life that allows you to be many things at the same time?In this episode, Julienne and Jerome talk to Christina Wallace, a self-described human Venn diagram who has crafted a career at the intersection of business, technology, and the arts, teaches at Harvard Business School, and has recently published her book “The Portfolio Life: How to Future-Proof Your Career, Avoid Burnout, and Build a Life Bigger than Your Business Ca...
2023-07-0353 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Organizational Culture with Pernilla Rorso“People have their personalities, there’s professional culture and there’s an organizational culture. Everything plays a role, but you can say national culture runs the deepest and it’s more or less in place by the age of 10. So it really runs deep.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Pernilla Rorso, who specializes in national and organizational culture from a performance perspective. She is the managing director of the Copenhagen office and senior business consultant at Hofstede Insights, and is a PhD fellow. She talks about how we can quantitatively measure national culture using six dimens...
2023-06-2639 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Everyday Leadership with Ash Beckham“Wherever you are, whatever you’re doing, you can lead right now. It’s not just when you open your laptop or walk in the door at work. It’s a lifestyle.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Ash Beckham, an inclusion activist whose TEDx talk ‘Coming Out of Your Closet’ became a viral sensation and author of the book ‘Step Up: How to Live with Courage and Become an Everyday Leader’. Ash talks about a key experience that shaped who she is today and her mission to provide people with the tools they need to become a leader...
2023-06-1944 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | The Power of Saying NoAre you someone who prefers to say yes, or are you someone who likes to say no? And can you think of experiences where using the answer you usually default to might not have been productive or effective? In this podcast, Jerome and Julienne talk about the power of saying no, the importance of listening to your internal dialogue, and the courage to follow through with whatever comes up, even when it might be uncomfortable. Jerome tells Julienne a personal story of a complicated and empowering situation in which he said no, using and showcasing the power o...
2023-06-1224 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | The Greatest Song with Kevin GriffinThe music business is notoriously fickle, but some people, such as Kevin Griffin, manage to stay for a long time. What did he do that many of his peers didn’t? How did he manage to stay inspired and nimble?In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk with Kevin Griffin, an award-winning songwriter, producer, and performer whose songs have sold over 80 million copies and have been streamed over a billion times and the author of “The Greatest Song”. He walks them through his journey from writing his own hit songs to writing for others and, most recently, becoming a...
2023-06-0644 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Pay Attention to The TensionIn this episode, we explore the line between comfort and discomfort. Tension and ease. When do we need to stretch ourselves and put ourselves in a “dis-comfort zone” in order to grow? Julienne shares a recent experience of noticing the tension that she was feeling. Rather than trying to hide it away, she decided to explore its cause, and figure out the message this tension was giving her. This led her to be more present for the people she was working with. We discuss the practice of identifying and releasing obstacles to listening that ke...
2023-05-2922 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Listen Courageously with Julianna Tafur“All it takes is one person's recognition of the other person's suffering, humanity and value for the other person to go ‘you see me, you truly see me, you get me’, and then the magic happens. People want to be seen and heard.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk with Juliana Tafur, an Emmy-nominated TV producer and the Listen Courageously movement and workshop series creator. Juliana's mission is to counteract “other-ing” by fostering understanding and connection among diverse individuals, which she does by organizing workshops designed to create a safe and open space for participants to share their...
2023-05-2252 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | What It Means to be a ManHow do stereotypes affect leadership? How can we empower people, and men in particular, to question those stereotypes, take control of their identity and be a better version of themselves?In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about the growing movement trying to change the traditional idea of what it means to be a man. They talk about how stereotypes are passed along through generations and internalized by individuals and how these ideas about who we’re supposed to be impact connection and communication. Jerome and Julienne share some of their experiences with environments th...
2023-05-1519 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Alexandre Seiler“People want choice, optionality, and flexibility. They don’t want to be told what to do.” In this episode, Julienne and Jerome sit down with Alex Seiler, a global people leader with over 15 years of experience transforming people functions and putting talent first at WeWork, Blue Shield of California, NBCUniversal, and Citi. He currently serves as Chief People Officer at GHJ and under his leadership, GHJ recently won the Transform “2023 People Activator: Employee Experience of the Year Award.” They talk about the importance of accountability, psychological safety and making sure your values align with the values of yo...
2023-05-0849 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Innovating For DiversityBetter product development, greater innovation, and better performance- many companies and people see the benefits of greater diversity. But what if we flip the script around and apply a lens of innovation to diversity rather than view diversity as just another checkbox? This is one of the ideas that Bertina Ceccarelli and Susanne Tedrick, the two guests in this episode, talk about in their new book ‘Innovating for Diversity: Lessons from Top Companies Achieving Business Success through Inclusivity’. In this episode, Jerome and Julienne speak with them about approaches to DEI and the difference that changing from a com...
2023-05-0143 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | LEADERS LISTENFor this podcast series, Jerome and Julienne have been talking to many people about leadership. In this episode, they look back at the conversations they’ve had, talk about the things many of these leaders had in common, and share what they have learned so far.They talk about being anchored in your values, the ability to delegate but also go deep on something when needed, and the importance of collaboration and diversity of thought. The idea of collaboration leads them to the idea that it is essential to recognize when you need to reach out for he...
2023-04-2411 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Curtis Bateman Author of Change: How To Turn Uncertainty Into OpportunityChange is often challenging, both for individuals and organizations. Why do we so often push back? And how can leaders help people through change? In this episode, Jerome and Jullienne talk to Curtis Bateman, an internationally recognized presenter, content developer, change consultant, business leader, coach and author of ‘Change: How to Turn Uncertainty into Opportunity.’ Curtis explains why people so often oppose change, and how the starting point of change often determines whether people are excited to move through change. He argues that change is primarily a human endeavor rather than merely a process or workfl...
2023-04-1840 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Upcoming Workshop & What To ExpectThe world we live in is volatile and filled with uncertainty. How do you navigate that as a leader? How do you know where to go next, and how do you communicate those decisions to others?In this episode, Jerome and Julienne tell us more about the upcoming online leadership workshop. In this workshop, which will consist of three one-hour sessions over a period of three weeks, you will get to learn and uncover what your values are and how to tell a story to bring those values to life. Having this leadership story...
2023-04-1011 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Jerome Deroy & Julienne B RyanWhat happens when we’re late? What do we do when we’re late, and what do we do when we’re the ones waiting? In this episode, Jerome and Julienne find themselves in an unexpected situation, but they decide to stay positive and use it to their advantage. They talk about choosing to shift the energy when something unexpected happens, using what’s going on in the moment and the grace in being reality-based and giving a person the chance to show up as they are. Listen to this episod...
2023-04-0309 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Measuring Justice with Amy BachJulienne and Jerome speak with Amy Bach, founder and CEO of Measures for Justice, a criminal justice nonprofit that develops data tools and services that help communities, including the institutions that serve them, reshape the system.A journalism fellowship led to a book idea, the book led to an idea for an organization, and now that organization (60+ employees and growing) is reshaping the justice system. In this episode, Amy talks us through some of the most crucial turning points along this journey and the power of the stories, and the people and relationships, that helped shape them...
2023-03-2744 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Learning to Keep Your Mouth Shut with Dan LyonsWhat do Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Tim Cook, Barack Obama, Richard Branson, and Larry King have in common? They are great listeners and know when to stop talking.In this episode Julienne and Jerome talk to Dan Lyons, New York Times bestselling author, screenwriter and journalist, about the power of talking less and listening more. Dan recently published ‘STFU: The Power of Keeping Your Mouth Shut in an Endlessly Noisy World’, a book he decided to write after realizing that his work to become a better listener was much bigger than himself. This episode dives...
2023-03-2048 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Dealing with Grief at WorkSooner or later, we all go through it: grief and loss. How do we deal with grief and loss, in the workplace and beyond? How do we remember, or re-member, our loved ones and how do we help others when they are dealing with loss? In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about grief and loss. They provide guidance for employers on how to help employees who are experiencing grief and loss and for those who are experiencing loss on how to communicate what they need. Jerome talks about how storytelling can help us when we are g...
2023-03-1316 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Well-Being In The WorkplaceHow are you spending your time? Are you intentional about it and do you take your wellness into account, or do you put in time just for the sake of it? And if you do want to be intentional about it, how can you use the connection between your body and mind to find out how to improve your productivity and well-being?In this episode, Jerome and Julienne discuss well-being in the workplace and how this relates to how we spend our time. They talk about a study that showed how a 4-day workweek might improve productivity...
2023-03-0615 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Engaging people with Head of People Sasha RobinsonJules and Jerome talk to Sasha Robinson, Head of People at Trainual, a company that codifies processes related to the people function of an enterprise, helping them to scale and grow, particularly around training and onboarding. Sasha has grown teams everywhere she's been, always paying attention to engagement and the best ways to meet employees where they are. This episode tracks Sasha's non-linear journey from working in a civil rights non profit organization to meeting someone who led her to her first role in the people function of a company. On the way to Trainual, Sasha l...
2023-02-2043 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | The Power of Mentorship with Garrett RichardsonGarrett Richardson has had a sense of purpose ever since he did a summer internship at the Freedom School, mentoring young people in Newark to instill them a passion and enthusiasm for literacy. Today, Garrett has leveraged all of his professional experiences to scale up mentorship as part of his work with Bloomberg Philanthropies in the city of London in particular. In our interview with Garrett, we discuss his experiences and how mentoring became the through line in a career that has had many ups and downs including having to navigate being unemployed during the 2008 great recession.
2023-02-131h 02Narativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Differentiate yourself through storytellingIn this episode, we discuss the current market conditions, and mixed messages headlines are giving us. Especially for people in tech, there's a lot of uncertainty and anxiety coming from layoff announcements and talk of a recession in general. So what do we do in the face of that? Jerome and Julienne discuss the effectiveness and value of storytelling to help differentiate yourself when you're seeking to express what your strengths are to a potential employer, or if you're assessing where you are in your career. Whether you're telling yourself a story to identify what brings you...
2023-02-0617 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Storytelling in HealthcareJulienne and Jerome discuss healthcare and how storytelling can improve dialogue between patients and doctors. What they uncover in this episode is the importance of listening and how to improve it so that people who are often in a power deferential, or feel intimated by the medical field, can feel like they have a voice. You'll hear about a recent client that Jerome worked with to support them in generating stories that would raise awareness, and change how community health centers are perceived by legislators but also by the people in the communities they serve.
2023-01-3026 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | From Athlete to CEO with Niall DunneJulienne and Jerome speak to Niall Dunne, CEO of Polymateria, a company that is working on solving the enormous, worldwide problem of plastic pollutants. You'll go on a fascinating journey as Niall tells us about how he started as a track and field athlete, met with Julienne's husband and fellow Irishman, Joe Ryan, who was a coach at Manhattan College in the Bronx, New York. Niall ended up representing Ireland in the 800m run. From there, Niall encountered a few angels that looked over him as he struggled with a potentially career ending injury, and th...
2023-01-2350 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Building A Better World of Work with Craig FormanJulienne and Jerome were excited to discuss the science of people with Craig Forman, from Culture Amp, a company that is dedicated to improving employee engagement through tech and people. Craig's purpose is to "build a better world of work", through community building and technology in particular. Craig discussed with us how he came to realize what needed to be fixed in the corporate world, working through adversity in his own life, starting with his parents' divorce, and then learning what could be better in the corporate world through both "really bad jobs, and really great ones." ...
2023-01-1645 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Building relationships in 2023Julienne and Jerome discuss the art of building relationships and trust through an experience that Julienne had before the holidays. She describes how her assumptions were proven wrong when she reached out to people to support her for a project. We look at the role of assumptions in our day to day lives and how they can get in the way of our ability to move forward. This aligns with Narativ's method of listening specifically and in this episode we go through strategies you can use to set aside assumptions you may have that have been get...
2023-01-0920 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | 2023 Trends to FollowHappy New Year! In this first episode of 2023, Julienne and Jerome discuss HR trends in 2023, based on an article that Julienne was invited to contribute to on bestofhr.com The main take away is to focus on the most effective ways to keep people engaged, especially in the face of an uncertain year, with much "doom and gloom" talk. We posit that the R word that will guide 2023 does not stand for Recession but for Retention. Storytelling will be a critical skill to master and transfer to others in order to come up with a st...
2023-01-0416 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | 2022 Year In ReviewJerome and Julienne discuss lessons learned from the 5 most popular episodes of 2022, which are all linked below in the show notes. From Zev Shalev and his story of witnessing the release of Nelson Mandela in South Africa as a young student in his uniform to Julienne and Jerome's episode on intentions versus resolutions, you will get practical insights while hearing leadership stories that you can implement in your own life.You'll hear about our take from the episodes on psychological safety with Sona Sherratt, the benefits of community based approaches to problems both in society at large a...
2022-12-2926 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Live Storytelling Coaching with Anna VafeiadouJulienne and Jerome discuss how storytelling has enhanced their guest's presentation and leadership skills. Anna Vafeiadou is responsible for the legal sector of the WWF (World Wildlife Fund) in Greece. As she had been increasingly asked to represent the work of the WWF through public speaking, she decided to enroll into a leadership development course at the MAVA foundation. She then worked with Jerome on her story to include into her presentations for a variety of stakeholders. In this episode, Anna shares her story, which starts in her childhood and spans in less than 5 minutes, her...
2022-12-1346 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Scientific Problem Solving with Gianna BiscontiniJulienne and Jerome speak to Gianna Biscontini, a board certified behavior analyst, bestselling author, and founder of W3RKWELL, a company that is dedicated to creating assessments that businesses can use to improve employee well being. Working in the clinical world, Gianna's environment was no longer supporting her growth, and she started to teach neuroscience based meditation. From there, she came across research that showed how poor health was often a result of one's work environment. That's when she created W3RKWELL to help better match the work environment with what employees want and need.
2022-12-0535 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Heather Walker, PhD - Levity At WorkIn this episode, we welcome Heather Walker, PhD, who has made a career of promoting, and implementing levity at work, through a variety of means. Dr. Walker founded Lead with Levity to promote healthy workplaces through survey insights, workshops, and a healthy dose of wisdom from guests on the Lead with Levity Podcast. Her goal is to help people have fun, and get more done. And in this episode, we sure had a lot of fun, especially when our guest shared with us a visual exercise that she had just created for a group of...
2022-11-2845 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Onboarding with Personal StoriesJerome recently was invited as an expert speaker to appear on a panel along with two other experts to discuss onboarding. The central question posed: How do we make onboarding more impactful and more engaging?Julienne observed the panel as a participant and in this episode, we looked at the main take aways and elaborated on why and how personal stories transformed the onboarding process for the companies that Narativ worked with.Is your onboarding process bogged down by compliance, administrative and technical content that have sucked the enthusiasm out of your new hires in their first...
2022-11-2119 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksLeadership Story Talks | Leadership In A VUCA WorldThe acronym VUCA stands for Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, Ambiguous.Does this resonate with you right now? How does leadership respond to such an environment? Julienne and Jerome examine the term but instead of delving into the doom and gloom of current headlines, they look at how you can address these fears through listening and storytelling. The future is a story, and this episode will give you practical insights on you can create a more hopeful and positive story that stands the test of a VUCA world. Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Me...
2022-11-1414 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | The Connected Community with Cormac RussellCormac Russell is a social explorer, an author and a much sought-after speaker. He is the Founding Director of Nurture Development and a member of the Asset-Based Community Development (ABCD) Institute, at DePaul University, Chicago. Over the last 25 years, Cormac’s work has demonstrated an enduring impact in 35 countries around the world. He has trained communities, agencies, NGOs and governments in ABCD and other community-based approaches in Africa, Asia, Australia/Oceania, Europe and North America. In our interview, Cormac described his work in communities and how he's made a career out of using community-based approaches to...
2022-11-0755 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Brand Citizenship with Anne Bahr ThompsonAnne Bahr Thompson has a rich and layered background, from business school to banking to branding to research and advertising to purpose. Anne connects the dots between vying for profit and leading a purpose-driven company. The two are not incompatible, quite the opposite! But she also notes that too many companies have gone overboard looking at their "why", and not enough time has been spent looking at the "how." How will you make your purpose a reality? In this rich conversation, we look at how organizations can "Do good", which is the title of Anne's new book...
2022-10-3159 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Our origin storyIn this episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect back on their meeting. Julienne had reached out to Jerome and members of the Narativ team, that led to a meeting in person (pre-pandemic). During that first meeting, Julienne noticed that the Narativ team members were walking their talk, meaning they were listening and giving space to Julienne to speak. A dialogue ensued that mirrored the process that Julienne had seen glimpses of on the Narativ web site, materials and a phone call she'd had with members of the team before that first meeting in person. How do you...
2022-10-2442 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Quiet Listening with Jerome Deroy and Julienne B RyanIn this episode, we look back to what we were talking about exactly a year ago, when we started the podcast. From a post pandemic return to the office, to the Great Resignation, and now Quiet Quitting in the last few months, we've seen a lot of changes. But have things really changed that much in terms of our behaviors and interpersonal communications? Were the problems that led to issues with working remotely, people resigning en masse, come out of nowhere? Our answer is NO! Human behaviors that we need to pay attention to...
2022-10-1718 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Happier at Work with Aoife O'BrienWe welcome Aoife O’Brien in this episode. She's the founder of Happier at Work, a business with the mission to support organizations in retaining top talent. She is passionate about ‘fit’ and specifically how creating the right environment can help individuals to reach their full potential and support organizations to thrive. She partners with HR and business leaders to focus on four pillars: engagement and belonging; leadership equity; performance and productivity; and the future of work. She is a self-professed data nerd, with a 20+ year career in market research in the fast-moving consumer goods industry...
2022-10-1048 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Psychological Safety with Sona SherrattIn this episode of Story Talks, we welcome Sona Sherratt of Ashridge where she designs, teaches and client directs on several executive education programmes with clients such as SAB Miller, Swarovski, Heineken, Erste Group Bank, Avis, Beazley Insurance Group and Continental. Sona has designed and delivered senior leadership and general management programs for clients around the world. Sona has co-authored a book entitled ‘50 Biggest Management Dilemmas Solved’ which was published by Pearson in January 2014. Together we discussed an area close to her heart, something she's been researching and writing about extensively as part of her doctorate: Psychological Safe...
2022-09-2637 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Responsible Leadership with Earl BreonIn this episode, we welcome Earl Breon, a former active duty United States Marine with over 25 years of experience in coaching and leadership development. He is the CEO and Founder of The Leadership Phalanx where he combines his civilian and military experiences with his love of history to bring his clients what he calls, "The 11 Shields of The Leadership Phalanx".These shields work together like the ancient Spartan formation to provide a strong leadership foundation that values diversity and inclusion as fundamental to building strong, successful, and innovative teams.We discussed all aspects of what...
2022-09-1244 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Zev Shalev - Seeking The Truth in StorytellingIn this episode, Julienne and Jerome talk to Zev Shalev, CEO of Narativ Studios and Cool Wolf Inc. Yes, you read that right, Narativ spelled the same way we do. We couldn't pass up the opportunity to find out what another Narativ is doing out there in the world. And what a treat to speak to Zev, a former CBS News Executive, and journalist who hails from South Africa. He is the winner of the Murrow Award and has been nominated for three Emmy Awards and 5 Canadian Screen Awards. Zev shared with us the...
2022-06-2241 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Answer Intelligence with Brian GlibkowskiIn this episode, Jerome and Julienne are talking with the creator of Answer Intelligence (AQ)™, Dr. Brian Glibkowski.When Dr. Glibkowski wanted to know what skills he could improve when he was a doctoral student, the answer was "communication." This set him on a path to discover how to help organizations and their employees improve the way they communicate by answering 6 questions: What, Who, Why, When, Where, How. Starting with golf professionals, he tested out a methodology that became the Answer Intelligence (AQ), which led to a book and now a framework that he...
2022-06-0336 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Passion, Paycheck, Environment - with Jodi BrockingtonIn this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Jodi Brockington, who is a hiring, career, Diversity & Inclusion, and Corporate Social Responsibility consultant, with many other hats. Jodi has created a framework to help both employers and employees figure out the right combination between their need for a paycheck, their passion (tied to their purpose), and the kind of work environment that fosters productivity and well being. You will learn how you can engage your employees by looking at all 3 elements, and, if you're looking for your next career move, how you can use this framework for yourself. ...
2022-05-1148 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Socratic Dialogue with Sira AbenozaIn this episode Jerome and Julienne talk with Sira Abenoza, a professor at ESADE business and law schools in Barcelona, Spain. She created the Institute for Socratic Dialogue to create conversations between people who sometimes have diametrically opposing points of view.We discussed Sira's experience working with inmates, as well as with factions from both sides of the conflict in Northern Ireland. The methods of Socratic Dialogue managed to create connection where there seemingly was none at all.Sira believes that every person deserves to be heard, no matter their politics or beliefs. In t...
2022-04-1243 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | Crisis LessonsIn this episode of Story Talks, Julienne and Jerome discuss the ongoing war in Ukraine, and what they're learning about leadership, listening and dealing with crises. The last few years have brought on many global crises that have affected everyone. The war in Ukraine is showing a particular style of leadership, which we believe carry lessons for business leaders. Listen to this episode to learn about these leadership qualities, and how to keep listening when there are so many obstacles getting in the way of our ability to connect and be present.
2022-03-2220 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | Leading Into The Unknown with Paul Browde, MDJerome and Julienne talk with Narativ co-founder Dr Paul Browde.Paul is a psychiatrist, a Narativ therapist, a marriage guidance counselor and an actor. Paul talks about his early training as a doctor in South Africa and how learning to listen to his patients led him to Narativ and developing a listening and storytelling method. You'll hear Paul's origin story, and what led him to be guided by listening and people's stories, even as a doctor. He noticed early on that in the medical field, doctors listen for what's wrong and how to fix things, but th...
2022-03-0732 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ Story Talks | We need to talk about the benefits cliff with Karen SchoellkopfIn this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk with Karen Schoellkopf, founder and CEO of Leap Fund. We look at Karen's journey from MFA to tech to entrepreneur. Karen tells us about something that was obscure to us and, apparently, even members of Congress: The benefits cliff. This is when workers across the country turn down income that they have earned at their jobs, out of fear of losing public benefits worth much more than a raise. Leap Fund creates products that empower optimism, financial and career growth, future planning, and security for the working families that need i...
2022-02-2229 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | Financial Health Expert George GrombacherIn this Story Talks episode Jerome and Julienne talk with George Grombacher who has worked in personal finance for 20 years and has been named a top 100 financial advisor in the US by Investopedia for the past three years. He’s working hard to encourage, empower, and entertain others with critical and compelling information to help them create more financial success and live as they wish to.George hosts LIFE BLOOD a podcast that shares information and advice on personal wealth management.Highlights: - George breaks down how he sees financial health an...
2022-02-0722 min
Narativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | DialogueIn this short episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about the importance of silence in dialogue. How listening is key to understanding and not to be afraid of the silence in between.Narativ’s online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ’s storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you’re welcome to schedule a free 15-minute...
2022-01-2711 minNarativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | New Year Intentions vs ResolutionsHere is 2022!Julienne and Jerome discuss the value of setting an intention instead of beating yourself up about not coming through with your New Year resolutions. Intentions call you into a certain way of being and can help you break old habits, especially when it comes to listening and to the story you tell about yourself and others. Julienne has some great advice for businesses and leaders based on a recent experience with a client. You'll come away with practical ways to engage your customers and employees, so listen in and let us kn...
2022-01-0613 min
Narativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | Lessons from start up CEO Penny SchifferWhy are Venture Capitalists not using tech to help them do their work? That’s where Raized.ai, the company that Penny Schiffer created, comes in. Penny talks about the origin of her venture and why she went from being a Venture Capitalist to being a CEO of a start up. She also tells us about what happened after her aha! moment. We discuss the process by which Penny uses data and AI to help make better decisions and expand the sources and funnels that VCs use to find the next big venture. We...
2021-12-2034 min
Narativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | Making The Workplace Work Better for Working People with Matt BahlJerome and Julienne talk with Matt Bahl - VP and head of workplace financial health, Financial Health Network.In this episode of Story Talks we discover how do we make people’s lives better by improving their financial resilience?That salaries are not determinative of financial health. How can we make workplace work better for working people? Matt talks about how the catalytic moment for him was when he told the story of his father at a summit on financial wellness and how that story led him to a positive career move...
2021-12-0841 min
Narativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | The Value of Personal StorytellingIn this podcast Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan talk about the ways in which leaders can connect with their employees with personal stories in the wake of the events of 2020.In this episode they talk about ~~ Many companies are seriously utilising Diversity, Equity & inclusion.~ Leaders eyes (and ears) opened in hearing employee stories in the wake of George Floyd's death and the personal stories that came out through listening sessions where leaders invited stories from their employees~ People need the tools to be able to tell their stories~ Be prepared to receive the response(s) to your personal story~ How...
2021-11-2326 min
Narativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | How To Share Key Knowledge For Recruitment & RetentionIn this episode, Jules and Jerome take a deeper dive into something that they scratched the surface of in episode 1. That thing is knowledge transfer. How do you do it? Why do you need to? Inspiring presentations are not the only outcome of storytelling. Effectively transferring knowledge within your organization is the lesser known, but perhaps more powerful use of storytelling in business. Listen to this episode to learn how you can put in place practices today that will make your systems more efficient and have the potential to turn the tide on issues of engagement, retention, recruitment, onboarding...
2021-11-0833 min
Narativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | Learning from First GradersWhat can we learn from first graders and the school system to welcome back our colleagues into an in-person office environment? This episode considers the very practical ways of reentering an in-person office environment, drawing inspiration from the protocols schools have put in place, while acknowledging the social anxieties that both Jerome and Jules themselves have been feeling! Too often, we assume that things will go back to business as usual as soon as we can get back into an office environment, but we're now seeing that's not the case. Jules and Jerome discuss the structures (and rituals) that...
2021-10-2533 min
Narativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | Vulnerability In BusinessWhat happens when a leader tells a personal story about his father to a business audience? Does vulnerability connect you with your audience or does it distract the audience? Jerome and Jules discuss vulnerability and leadership, through real world stories about leaders they've worked with. You'll come away with practical ideas and tools to present yourself in a genuine way, representing who you really are in order to connect with your audience.narativ.com jryanpartners.comArticle about vulnerability and storytelling: narativ.com/2021/05/17/mvp-of-storytellingHIGHLIGHTS ~- An executive who told a personal story about his father for a business audience: we...
2021-10-1129 min
Narativ Leadership Story TalksNarativ StoryTalks | Knowledge Transfer In A Remote WorkplaceStory Talks is a podcast hosted by Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan.In each episode we discuss the practices that engage, motivate, develop, retain, and attract people to businesses, whether these are your customers or your employees. Their principles and tools are based on real world stories that leverage listening and storytelling to become a better leader and management professional.IN THIS EPISODE ~This is a critical time for leaders to start a systematic process for collecting knowledge for the whole company. Jerome and Julienne discuss their observations and learnings around being proactive in collecting and sharing your company’s...
2021-09-2727 min