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Paradox of CivilityEpisode 36: EpilogueOn this episode...It's just me, reflecting on this podcast and "The Hate Project", and the relevance to what is happening in American and the world right now, and how relevant it may be in the near future. Also some discussion of murdered Texas deputy Sandeep Dhaliwal, Botham Jean's murder by the police, racist Hollywood costumer Heather Patton, Musical Prodigy Draylen Mason killed by package bomb, the wealthy elites who fund racist anti-immigration movements, and more...
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F...2019-09-3044 minParadox of CivilityEpisode 35: Ending "The Hate Project"CW: Hate Speech/Language
On this episode...I revisit the final episode of "The Hate Project" which aired on September 9th, 2013. I reflect on "The Hate Project" overall, troll the trolls in the chat, and field phone calls from right-wing radio host "Newsguy" and "Kennewick Man" who I interviewed on Episode 28 and appeared on Episodes 5, 6, and 10. Later "TheChad80", who I interviewed on Episode 33 and appeared on Episode 29, joins the conversation. We talk about literal hate-fucking, specifically the hypocrisy of male white nationalists coupling with non-white women. "Kennewick Man" discusses how some neo-nazi groups are possible fronts for sata...2019-09-232h 40Paradox of CivilityEpisode 34: Interview with D.K. Wilson (2019)On this episode...I catch up with D.K. Wilson, the black sportswriter, tennis pro, musician, anthropology expert that I interviewed in 2013 and revisited here on Episode 32 of this podcast
We have a long robust conversation that covers many topics including (but not limited) to the problems of discussing race with white liberals, why Democrats constantly capitulate to Republicans, the 2020 election and if it's possible to actually have a liberal/progressive U.S. President, and how the government really asserts its power in order to maintain the status quo and quash real solidarity among the populace. We...2019-09-161h 54Paradox of CivilityEpisode 33: Black Alex Jones / Rich Hate, Poor HateCW: Hate Speech/Language
On this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 35 which originally aired on August 19th, 2013. A young African-American man going by the name "TheChad80" calls in, and explains his own mission in talking to nationalists - both white and black - similar to the mission of my show. Chad and I talk about a variety of topics. He talks about his views on zionism, the challenges in talking with white nationalists, and he makes the distinction between talking to respectable white nationalists like Jared Taylor versus the average skinhead. Chad also mentions that he...2019-08-261h 17Paradox of CivilityEpisode 32: Racism in Sports and Beyond / People of Color have Stockholm Syndrome / Real Right-WingismOn this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 34 which originally aired on August 12th, 2013. I have a great interview with D.K. Wilson, an African-American writer. D.K. discusses how he wrote about racism in sports and found himself marginalized, blacklisted, and even threatened. He also talks about his own life including encountering racism at private school, being a tennis coach and a musician, and his experiences with paranormal activity which may be connected to his father's work in the government.
Something that has stood out to me about this interview since 2013 is the fact that Peo...2019-08-192h 16
Paradox of CivilityEpisode 31: 2019 Interview with Corinna Luray Olsen - Former White NationalistOn this episode...I manage to catch up with Corinna Luray Olsen, the former white nationalist that I interviewed in 2013 and revisited here on Episode 29 of this podcast
Corinna talks about her recent conversion to Islam, her current work in funeral homes doing reconstructive work for trauma cases, and other developments in her life since we last spoke. We also discuss the parallels of what she witnessed in the white nationalist movement and how the ideology has made it's way into mainstream American politics, how immigration has been used as an issue to push white nationalist ideas...2019-08-121h 35Paradox of CivilityEpisode 30: Interview with Daryle Lamont Jenkins of One People's ProjectOn this episode...I have a great conversation with antifascist civil rights activist Daryle Lamont Jenkins, founder of One People's Project. Daryle is portrayed in the new film "Skin", currently playing in theaters and available on demand. Daryle's name has also been mentioned by a few nazis and white supremacists that called into "The Hate Project", due to his work in directly confronting these hate groups. We discuss "Skin", including Daryle's involvement in the film and how accurate it is to the real story it's based on. We also talk about whether it's worth engaging nazis/white nationalists in a...2019-08-021h 09Paradox of CivilityEpisode 29: Leaving White Nationalism - A Journey of Embalming, Torture Porn, Bodybuilding, and Eventual Disillusionment with White PrideCW: Hate speech/language
On this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 33 which originally aired on August 5th, 2013. I have a great interview with Corinna Burt a former white nationalist who was known as "Axis Sally". We have a long and fascinating conversation about her career working in a funeral home, working as a torture porn actor, participating in bodybuilding competitions, and how she became involved in the white nationalist movement and ascended to leadership status. We discuss how she came to each turning point in her life and how she came to leave the white nat...2019-07-152h 23Paradox of CivilityEpisode 28: Hate AdjacentOn this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 32 which originally aired on July 29, 2013. Interview with a former member of a white nationalist group who still holds many of the beliefs in the movement. Other topics check the time stamps below!
*00:00 - Intro to Episode. Topics include:
-Never Again Action direct protest of ICE detention centers: https://www.neveragainaction.com
-The ecosystem that sustains white supremacists
-how well-meaning liberals maintain racial stereotypes and hierarchies
-the futility of winning over bigoted hearts and minds
*18:29 - Hate Project Ep. 32 begins
-guest host Carl...2019-07-071h 57Paradox of CivilityEpisode 27: No Justice for Trayvon / Drunk Asian JesusCW: hate speech/language
On this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 31 which originally aired on July 15, 2013. Most of this episode was me discussing the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the murder of Trayvon Martin. Also discussion of current topics including the dehumanizing and torturous polices of the U.S. in regards to migrant children and families, the Marshae Jones case, Portland fascist and antifascist conflict, and Police and Border Patrol Agents posting racist hateful content. Check the timestamps below for episode details:
*00:00 - Intro to POC / Intro to the Hate Project
Topics di...2019-06-303h 07Paradox of CivilityEpisode 26: "Did You Take a Class in Dumb?"On this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 30 which originally aired on June 24, 2013. I had a conversation with an ex-Mormon turned atheist and we discuss the challenges of raising a family with his wife who is still in the Mormon church, as well as fundamentalism in general. Also discussion of abortion bans, Paula Deen, the racially motivated jailing of children, and other topics. Check the timestamps below for episode details:
*00:00 - Intro to POC / Intro to the Hate Project
*16:18 - general mockery of the KKK
*22:47 - Discussion of Paula Dean racism
2019-05-262h 41Paradox of CivilityEpisode 25: May Day Mayday!On this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 29 which originally aired on May 6, 2013 (exactly 6 years ago today, 3rd time in a row!!). Discussion of violent May Day clashes in 2013, Assata Shakur, Facebook banning, and more. Check the timestamps below for the topics discussed:
*00:00 - Intro to the Episode / Hate Project Episode Intro
*05:12 - general responding to racist trolls in chatroom
-discussion of Cinco de Mayo, how most people don’t know what they’re celebrating
-interactions with people in the chat – mainly about the value of celebrating holidays even if you’re not part o...2019-05-062h 02Paradox of CivilityEpisode 24: The Friendster of Hate Groups / More Shitpost TerrorismOn this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 28 which originally aired on April 29, 2013 (exactly 6 years ago today, again!!). Check the timestamps below for the topics discussed:
*00:00 - Intro to the Episode. Discussion of Poway, CA Synagogue shooting, release of aspiring white terrorist Christopher Hasson, IRL shitpost terrorism
*08:25 – Intro to “The Hate Project: Episode 28” - including my alias on this episode as guest host Ted Whelps, leader of the Eastboro Baptist Church which, unlike the Westboro Church, actually uses homoerotic material to teach about Jesus
*18:00 – Discussion of the Boston Marathon Bombing and how it combine...2019-04-293h 01Paradox of CivilityEpisode 23: Kill or be Killed / Live and Let LiveOn this episode...I try a brand new format where I comment DURING the episode of "The Hate Project" that I am revisiting. This time, I am revisiting episode 27 which originally aired on April 15, 2013 (exactly 6 years ago today!!). Check the timestamps below for the topics discussed - highlights include a call from "Mandelacon", discussions of imperialism, and my dramatic performance of Brad Paisley's "accidental racist"
*00:00 - Intro
*05:12 – Intro to “The Hate Project: Episode 27” where I establish newer ground rules. I decide to start a hate group against rude people
*08:47 – I offer to do a dramatic r...2019-04-142h 05Paradox of CivilityEpisode 22: Interview with Roman RimerOn this Episode...I have a one-on-one interview with Roman Rimer, who called in to the "Hate Project" a few times during its 2012-2013 run (you can hear him on POC episodes 5,9,14,20). Roman is a trans, queer community activist and performer based in the Bay Area, and he hosts a weekly radio show as well. Roman and I reflect on how our views have changed in the last few years in regards to having peaceful dialogues with hate mongers, be they nazis or TERFS. Roman also discusses the worsening homelessness and wealth disparity problems in the Bay Area, and h...2019-03-241h 56Paradox of CivilityEpisode 21: The Church of Communistic Race-Mixing WhorehouseCW: Hate speech/language.
At the top of the show, I discuss the horrific Christchurch New Zealand Mosque shooting, and the white supremacist online shitposting nature of it. I revisit "The Hate Project: Episode 26" original air date March 25, 2013, which contains an insane rage-filled conversation with a white nationalist named "Loganhunter" who expresses aggrievement that white people and white countries are under attack from Jewish and non-white forces. At one point he says that most churches are "communistic race-mixing whorehouses" which makes me question whether I should go back to church. Resident Klansman Dragon 1488 calls in, and seemingly s...2019-03-172h 39Paradox of CivilityEpisode 20: Sausage Smuggling / You May Be on a ListCW: Hate speech/language, rape, assault.
I revisit "The Hate Project: Episode 25" original air date March 18, 2013, where I discuss the Steubenville High School rape case, the danger of raising boys to feel like they can do anything. Roman calls back in, we talk about sexuality and gender. Longer talk with white nationalist Tyrant Trooper who claims "our race is our religion" yet claims to do charity work with other groups of people. A man named "Puffy" calls in and dunks on Tyrant. African-American sports host Najradio calls back in, makes cogent arguments to counter Tyrant's white nationalist tal...2019-03-102h 46Paradox of CivilityEpisode 19: Intellectual Violence, Fake Hate Crime & Real White Nationalist TerrorismCW: Hate speech
I revisit "The Hate Project: Episode 24" which aired on March 11, 2013. One of the overall funnier episodes, though it still has some terrible ideologies of hatred espoused. This episode of HP has a lot of prank calls (from the same dude) as well as white nationalists/supremacists lamenting that white culture is under attack from multiculturalism facilitated by the jews, including the resident klansman Dragon 1488, as well as callers "Saxon1" "GovHater" and "Tyrant Trooper". Thankfully, the African-American radio host NajRadio as well as the anti-racist Patrick Hwang call in to counter-balance these views with reality. S...2019-02-242h 53Paradox of CivilityEpisode 18: The Raw Fear of Living in Your Own SkinCW: Hate speech
I revisit "The Hate Project: Episode 23" which originally aired on March 4th, 2013. This particular THP episode begins with a prank call, then the resident klansman Dragon1488 calls in. The bulk of this episode is a conversation with Patrick (or Paul) Hwang, who is an Anti-racist who trolls white supremacist Harold Covington and other white supremacists. Patrick reveals that he had an encounter Covington's hate group Northwest Front, which spurred him to monitor these hate folks. At the beginning of this episode, I discuss a neo-nazi influencer outside of Ft. Worth, TX, the collusion between th...2019-02-172h 09Paradox of CivilityEpisode 17: Black History Month - Innovation and the Persistence of HateCW: Hate speech
I revisit "The Hate Project: Episode 22" which aired on February 25, 2013. Due to my meltdown from "Hate Project Episode 21", I decide to turn off the chat room that allows people to comment during the broadcast, and I only allow phone calls. The resident klansman Dragon1488 and Neo-nazi McBride call in. Unfortunately, this ends up allowing these two to have my platform all to themselves in order to amplify their ideology of hate. African-American sports host NajRadio calls in to offer his great insights in the face of the ignorance. Several prank calls and trolls also ad...2019-02-072h 49Paradox of CivilityEpisode 16: Carol 2: The MeltdownI revisit "The Hate Project: Episode 21" which aired on February 18, 2013. Bonkers episode that includes a hateful yet informative debate between resident klansman Dragon 1488 and African-American sports host/sage Najradio, a call from "Carol", and a couple of calls -one prank, one sincere - advocating for a white ethnostate. I have a bit of a meltdown in the last hour of the aforementioned episode, because I'm accused by a listener of being a closet neo-nazi. I explain why I broke down and the lead up to this confrontation in the intro of this episode. Also some discussion of the Covington C...2019-01-223h 20Paradox of CivilityEpisode 15: Accommodation of HateI revisit "The Hate Project - Episode 20" (originally aired February 11, 2013) in which Neo-Nazi McBride calls back in, and so does one of his neo-nazi colleagues who I refer to as "South Carolina" on this show. The resident klansman Dragon1488 calls in, as does the Nurse1488. I reflect on this show from today 2018 and question why I'm accommodating and polite to the hate-mongers who call in, and whether I'm moving towards having an honest dialogue with these folks or if my show is just being used to spread hate.
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...2018-12-173h 05Paradox of CivilityEpisode 14: White Extremism and Our Unpreparedness to Face It.I revisit "The Hate Project - Episode 19" originally broadcast on February 4, 2013. I have a long conversation with Dragon1488, the klansman who is a regular caller on this show. Roman also calls in, challenges Dragon on his hateful anti-Semitic views by mentioning the family members he will never know because they died in the Holocaust. Dragon and I debate the Bible. Dragon also admits he works at a major Fortune 100 company, and that he fires black employees more than white employees. Upon reflection, I am a little too casual in this conversation and I wonder if the congeniality I share wi...2018-11-191h 59Paradox of CivilityEpisode 13: Racism Booth / Forgotten White Men / Assault Rifle OwnershipI revisit "The Hate Project: Episode 18" broadcast on MLK Day January 21st, 2013. I pitch a business idea for booths that allow people to pay to say racist words in private. African-American sports radio host NajRadio offers sympathetic perspective on white men who are left behind, and feel they have no access to the white privilege often attributed to them, but we also talk about the powerful people who take advantage of them. Resident Klansman Dragon 1488 calls in, offers a very reasonable explanation on why regular citizens should not be allowed to own assault rifles, surprising given his ideology and me...2018-11-141h 48Paradox of CivilityBONUS Episode 12A: LoveBliss McFlowerBlossom Trolls Back!CW: Hate speech/language
This bonus episode is the entire episode of "The Hate Project: Episode 17" (parts of which were featured on POC Ep. 12). I play a guest host named LoveBliss McFlowerBlossom, and I spend most of the episode interacting with hate-mongers saying heinously hateful things in the chat room during the show. I troll these trolls back by being extra loving to them in the most annoyingly vapid faux-spiritual person way. It's bizarrely funny at times, but there is a ton of hate language so be warned.
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Twitter: @civilpodcast2018-11-092h 45Paradox of CivilityEpisode 12: The Call is Coming from Inside Our Borders / Please VOTEI revisit "The Hate Project: Episode 17" released on January 7th 2013. There is a debate between Neo-Nazi McBride and African-American sports radio host NajRadio that ends up being contentious but respectful. They debate immigrants and millennials, McBride espouses talking points about immigrants attempting to come to the U.S. that have existed within hate groups for a long time, but I discuss how these viewpoints have found concrete legitimacy within the mainstream right-wing ecosystem all the way up to the White House. I also discuss current domestic hate terrorism and the actual death and damage connected to it. Also, be s...2018-11-061h 11Paradox of CivilityEpisode 11: The Carnage is the PointCW: Hate speech/language, child molestation, sexual abuse
I begin by talking about the past week (Oct 21-27 2018) of domestic terrorism from the #MAGABomber, the white supremacist murderer in Kentucky, and the anti-semitic massacre at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh.
Then, I revisit "The Hate Project, Ep. 16" which was broadcast on Christmas Eve 2012. I gave Martin Lindstedt, pastor in the Christian Identity movement, an uninterrupted interview. It's an often incoherent dialogue. Lindstedt describes his dysfunctional family background, embracing white supremacy in the Christian Identity movement, and the allegations against him as a child...2018-10-292h 50Paradox of CivilityEpisode 10: From Louis Beam to Proud Boys / Pagan White Nationalism & "Christian Identity"CW: Hate Speech/Language
At the top, I go off about Gavin Mcinnes's hate gang Proud Boys and the violence they were involved in both in NYC and Portland on Oct 12-13, 2018. I revisit "The Hate Project Episode 15" in which I interview Martin Lindstedt, unhinged pastor, possible pedo. He mentions working with Louis Beam, a figure that paved a path for the current alt-right. A member of the Neo-Nazi national socialist movement calls in from Delaware, discusses his Pagan beliefs and how he became a white nationalist. Fake George Takei drops the mask, reveals he used to b...2018-10-223h 01Paradox of CivilityEpisode 9: The Tim Burton of HateRevisiting "The Hate Project 14" which aired on December 10th, 2012. My guest co-host was Roman (who you can hear on Paradox of Civility Episode 5). The klansman Dragon1488 calls back in, Roman is able to challenge him in a peaceful and intelligent manner. Dragon describes how he thinks gay people are living a life of evil, yet he knows some gay people and likes them. He continues to demonstrate insight into socio-economic political machinations, yet chooses hate even though it is part of the problem.
References from episode:
The Weekly Review (Roman's show): https://www.patreon.com/Wee...2018-10-081h 52Paradox of CivilityEpisode 8: Klansman is woke, but still chooses racism / MiseducationRevisiting "The Hate Project" which aired on 11/12/2012. This episode features two long phone conversations. The first is with Dragon1488, the resident klansman. He demonstrates a very insightful understanding of racism and the honest mentality of white people, but still can't help reverting to being racist. Then his friend EdClanofChattan calls in, gives revisionist version of slavery, and he also shares how he began to come to his white supremacist worldview from a comment made by his father. The klansman talks about his wife, and how he would quit the klan if she wanted him to. I play some clips fr...2018-09-243h 03Paradox of CivilityEpisode 7: The Klansman and the Black Sports Radio HostRevisiting "The Hate Project - Episode 12" - The regular klansman calls back in, a new caller - an African-American man named Najradio - debates the klansman on many of his statements. The conversation takes on a wide range of topics including how the klansman used to like 80s rap groups and currently (in 2012) enjoys Tyler Perry movies, diversity in crops, black invention, class struggle and the failures of both political parties, and more. I offer commentary before and after the episode, explaining my perspective on this episode and project from today's standpoint.
References from episode:
...2018-09-042h 25Paradox of CivilityEpisode 6: The President mainstreams #whitegenocide / Escaping Racism / The Klansman & The Nurse of 1488 / Fake George Takei is a Real RacistCW: Hate Speech / Slurs
At the top of the show - I talk about current events, citing the articles below. Donald Trump has mainstreamed a fringe white nationalist talking point.
"Hate Project" Episode 11 clips - Recorded shortly after Hurricane Sandy. Guest co-host with Red Sonya, from Kentucky who explains how she escaped racist indoctrination from her parents and community. The Klansman, now calling himself Dragon1488, calls back in. He says he is motivated by his love of his own race, but still can't help sounding hateful. A nurse, who also wears the 1488 handle calls in, sh...2018-08-281h 59Paradox of CivilityEpisode 5: Real Klansman, Fake George Takei, Social Justice, GeekdomThis episode features two clips from Episode 5 & Episode 9, respectively, of "The Hate Project". Ep. 5 features a phone conversation with a friend named Roman in which we touch on social justice, the sources of our own anger, why the right-wing gets its way, my experience growing up Indian in Texas.
Episode 9 features a phone call from a real member of the Ku Klux Klan, the first call of many throughout "The Hate Project". Before that, it's a phone call from someone impersonating George Takei. To complicate matters, someone who hosts a show called "Michigan Radio Geeks" calls in an...2018-08-161h 25Paradox of CivilityEpisode 4: Fascist Aggression - Online and IRLThis one is a little heavy on my present day rant - I address a White Nationalist march in NYC in a park that hits too close to home. Also talk of Portland and Berkeley rallies/clashes with fascists and counterprotesters this past weekend (Aug 4th-5th). I replay a montage of the last of the "The Hate Project" episodes from 2012 on Blog Talk Radio, where I talk about a bodega incident and discovering online hate group websites like Stormfront.
References from episode:
Identity Evropa in Ft. Tryon: https://twitter.com/Uptowncollectiv/status/1025416576374398979
Back...2018-08-061h 01Paradox of CivilityBONUS Episode 3A: Larry PencilThis is a standalone broadcast from week 2 of "The Hate Project". A call from a gentleman named Larry Pencil. Hilariously weird conversation involving hate, M. Night Shymalan, and more!
2018-08-0334 minParadox of CivilityEpisode 3: Should We Have a Race War? / Trump the BirtherThis Episode is a compilation various clips from the 2nd week of my online radio show "The Hate Project". I didn't have any phone calls, so I talked on my own about being Indian, the value of having an official race war, Trump's birther antics, my biases and resentment coming out from a day camp job, and other topics. I offer some reflection from today at the end.
References from episode:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_and_Fog_(1956_film)
https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2012/07/17/mitt-romney-surrogate-says-he-wishes-president-obama-would-learn-how-to-be-an-american
http://observer.com/2018/06/private-prison-stocks-soar-amid-immigration-crisis/...2018-07-3043 minParadox of CivilityEpisode 2: First week of "The Hate Project"CW: Hate speech/Language
This episode is a compilation of clips from the very first week of my online radio show "The Hate Project". I was trying different time slots with my BlogTalkRadio account after my very first episode, and ended up with a variety of content. The clips in this episode include me describing being the only person of color in kindergarten, the Daniel Tosh rape joke controversy from 2012 (current at the time), how I learned to be prejudiced against Mexicans and Jews before any interaction, a good call about how race and racism was constructed a...2018-07-161h 25Paradox of CivilityEpisode 1: Launching "The Hate Project"CW: Hate speech/language
I explain the inspiration behind creating "The Hate Project" - an online radio show designed to allow racist, sexist, homophobic people to call in and express their true feelings. As an Indian-American, I wanted to learn about the source of bigotry and why it happens. I talk about re-visiting this experiment and reflecting on it in the age of Trump. I then play the very first episode of this radio show, and then add a little commentary afterwards.
Any comments, feedback, questions...
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