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Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime Africa🚨 SYSTEM FAILURE: The Rosebank Police Station ShootingThis week on Profiler Africa, South Africa's leading forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne takes us inside a shocking event that rocked an affluent Johannesburg suburb: the 2011 Rosebank Police Station shooting. More than just a lone disgruntled employee, this case exposes the dangerous cracks within law enforcement and the chilling reality of workplace violence.We delve into:The Perpetrator & The Spark: Who was Kekana, the admin clerk whose dismissal triggered this tragedy, and what was the seemingly minor fraud that set it all in motion?Ignored Warnings: The explicit threats made to Captain Neelavathie NAIDU...2025-07-091h 11Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime Africa🚨 SYSTEM FAILURE: The Rosebank Police Station ShootingThis week on Profiler Africa, South Africa's leading forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne takes us inside a shocking event that rocked an affluent Johannesburg suburb: the 2011 Rosebank Police Station shooting. More than just a lone disgruntled employee, this case exposes the dangerous cracks within law enforcement and the chilling reality of workplace violence.We delve into:The Perpetrator & The Spark: Who was Kekana, the admin clerk whose dismissal triggered this tragedy, and what was the seemingly minor fraud that set it all in motion?Ignored Warnings: The explicit threats made to Captain Neelavathie NAIDU...2025-07-091h 11That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union Show30 Years Since '95: Mark Andrews on World Cup Glory & Boks vs Italy1995 World Cup winner Mark Andrews joinsXola Ntshinga to reflect on rugby’s wildest era, the Natal hard men, and why Italy at Loftus won’t be the walkover you’re expecting. Old-school grit meets modern Bok talk.🇿🇦 ANDREWS ON ‘95Madiba, Mehrtens, and mayhem — Mark takes us inside the squad, the mindset, and the madness of South Africa’s first World Cup win.🇮🇹 BOKS vs ITALY PREVIEWTshituka gets his first cap, Grant Williams starts at 9, and Italy’s Six Nations form demands respect. Loftus won’t be a walk in the park.🧠 THE SIM BINSim’s on deadline...2025-07-0357 minThat Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union ShowKobus Wiese: The Punch, the Cup & the ChaosSpringbok legend Kobus Wiese joins Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa to talk 1995, Boet Erasmus brawls, and what rugby’s lost in the age of analytics.No fluff. No filter. Just a Bok icon telling it like it is.🇿🇦 WIESE ON ‘95Madiba, Morné, and mayhem — Kobus reflects on the World Cup that changed South Africa, and why that punch was worth it.🧢 BOKS vs BARBARIANSFour uncapped players, one controversial 10, and Rassie rolling the dice. What the squad says about the road to 2027.🦁 LIONS IN OZThey’re back — but does anyone still care...2025-07-031h 12Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaHarvested Alive: The Truth About ‘Muti’ Murders in South AfricaThis week on Profiler Africa, forensic psychologist Gérard Labuschagne uncovers the terrifying world of muti murders — killings where body parts are harvested for traditional medicine. These aren’t random acts of violence. They’re deliberate, driven by belief, greed, and an underground economy that thrives in the shadows.We dive into:What muti murder really means — and why it’s not just “ritual”A shocking case of a mother who killed her own childHow investigators navigate cultural taboos, community silence, and legal blind spotsWhy justice rarely comes for the v...2025-07-021h 22Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Hostage Whisperer: Inside SAPS' Elite Negotiation Unit with Dr Ernst StrydomThis week, Profiler Africa goes behind the scenes of South Africa’s most high-stakes standoffs with Dr Ernst Strydom — SAPS’ former National Coordinator of Hostage Negotiations.Host Paul Llewellyn and forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne dig into the psychology of crisis and negotiation, guided by the man who trained the nation’s negotiators and led SAPS through hijackings, bomb threats, and terrorist incidents.🔍 In this episode:What makes a hostage-taker tick — and how negotiators break the cycleInside SAPS responses to terrorism, kidnappings, and mass casualty eventsThe anatomy of a standoff —...2025-06-181h 32Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaA Fine White Treason | Inside the Boeremag’s deadly plot to overthrow South AfricaIn this explosive episode, Paul and Gerard sit down with retired Colonel Tollie Vreugdenburg — former head of SAPS Counter-Terrorism — to expose the chilling truth behind one of the most dangerous domestic terror plots in South African history: the Boeremag.This white supremacist militia planned to bomb the country into civil war, assassinate Nelson Mandela, and launch a violent coup. But thanks to Tollie and a small team of investigators, South Africa narrowly avoided its own 9/11.Inside the episode:Who the Boeremag were — and why they were more dangerous than you think“Document...2025-06-111h 47That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union ShowRassie Reloaded: Bomb Squad Back & Wink-Gate EruptsRassie drops the squad and Ireland loses its mind over a wink.Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa are joined by former Bok assistant and USA coach Gary Gold to break it all down.🇿🇦 RASSIE’S PICKSThe Bok boss names squads for the Barbarians, Italy, and Georgia — who’s missing, who’s lucky, and what it says about 2025.🌩️ STORMERS STUFFEDDobbo’s men got dismantled. We unpack the Stormers’ collapse: tactics, turnovers, and temperament.👀 WINK-GATEHendrikse winked. Ireland combusted.Rassie clapped back. Jacques said it’s personal.Sim says: rugby needs more villains.🧠 THE SIM BINURC chaos, Springbok...2025-06-061h 26Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaBlood on the Land: The Human Toll of South Africa’s Farm MurdersThis week on Profiler Africa, we go deep into one of the most brutal and misunderstood crime waves in South Africa — farm murders.Host Paul Llewellyn and forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne are joined by veteran detective Gawie “Sakkie” Louwrens, who’s investigated over 300 farm killings. Now retired from SAPS, Sakkie leads an independent rural crime unit taking on what the police can’t — or won’t.Forget the headlines and political spin. This episode is about the real people living — and dying — on South Africa’s farms.🔍 What we cover:What the stats really say ab...2025-06-041h 10That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union ShowYOU CAN’T KILL THE CHEETAHS | URC QFs, Club World Cup & Bok FutureRugby’s unkillable underdogs are back — and That Rugby Union Show is all over it.🎙️ Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa are joined by Rory Duncan and Frans Steyn to talk survival, resurrection, and rugby politics — Cheetahs style.🐆 You Can’t Kill the CheetahsFrom near extinction to international ambition, the Cheetahs story isn’t over — it’s just heating up.⚔️ War Stories from BloemDuncan on captaining Currie Cup champions, coaching in Japan, and business school.Frans on debuting at 19, life abroad, and stepping into rugby leadership.🌍 Club World Cup: Bold Vision or Kak Idea?🦁 Springboks, the Li...2025-05-301h 11That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union ShowMaro’s Lions, Schmidt’s Wildcards & SA’s URC FateRugby’s never off — and neither are we. This week, Xola and Sim break down the headlines that matter:🦁 Lions Squad Revealed: Maro Itoje takes the captaincy — bold move or just hype?🦘 Wallaby Wildcards: Joe Schmidt’s calling James O’Connor. Inspired or insane?🇿🇦 URC Crunch Time: Just two rounds left — who makes the QFs, and who’s hanging by a thread?Plus: Lions snubs, SA’s playoff chances, and why the Wallabies are entering chaos mode.It’s smart talk, real takes, and no fluff. Just rugby, unfiltered.🎧 Listen weekly on Spotif...2025-05-3055 minThat Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union ShowSTORMERS, SHARKS, BULLS ON THE BRINK | Willemse Banned, URC QFs & R14K Bok TicketsRugby’s chaos engine keeps purring — and we’re back to fuel the fire.🎙️ Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa are joined by Scarra Ntubeni for big calls, brutal honesty, and URC playoff smoke.🌩️ Stormers: Make or Break🏆 European Finals: Why They Still Matter🚨 Damian Willemse Banned — Fair or Farce?💸 Bok Ticket Bloodbath🔁 URC Quarterfinals: Who’s Hot, Who’s Hopeless💬 Drop us your thoughts — We're watching 👀📺 Watch the show: youtube.com/ThatRugbyUnion📸 Insta: @thatrugbyunion🐦 X: @ThatRugbyUnion#URC #Springboks #ThatRugbyUnionShow #Stormers #RugbyUnfiltered #Stormers #DamianWillemse #ScarraNtubeni #RugbyUnfiltered #ChallengeCupFinal #ChampionsCupFinal #BokTickets #XolaNtshinga #SimXabanisa #RugbyTalk2025-05-301h 19Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaFarm Murders: Crime, or Conspiracy?Profiler Africa | Episode Out NowWho’s really killing who in South Africa?In one of our most explosive episodes yet, Paul Llewellyn and forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne sit down with Dr Chris de Kock, former head of SAPS Crime Research, to pull the mask off one of South Africa’s most politicised crime topics: farm murders.Forget the hashtags, headlines, and hype. We’re cutting through the myth, the fear, and the politics — and getting to the truth.What farm murders are — and what they’re notWhether white farmer...2025-05-281h 37Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Etwatwa Family Axe Murders | The Little Killer | South African Serial Ep 3We delve into one of the most disturbing familicides in South African history — the Etwatwa family murders.On May 23, 2013, a 14-year-old boy in Johannesburg’s East Rand took an axe to his mother, grandmother, six-year-old brother, and four-month-old sister. Four lives ended in one night. A quiet street turned crime scene. A community left reeling. And a nation asking: how could a child commit such horror?We unpack the chilling events, the whispers of satanism and abuse, and the state's struggle to understand a boy turned killer. With little media coverage and fewer answers, a smal...2025-05-2348 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaSerial Killer Cop | Kobus Geldenhuys: The Terror of Norwood | South African Serial Ep 2This is the case that chilled Johannesburg to the bone.Between 1989 and 1992, Kobus Geldenhuys — a police officer sworn to protect — unleashed a wave of terror across the city. He raped, murdered, and broke into homes while wearing the badge. By the time it was over, five women were dead, and a community had lost all trust in the uniform.This week, we dig into how Geldenhuys hid in plain sight, and the twisted psychology that drove his crimes. We’re joined by journalist Janine Lazarus, who worked with police during the hunt — even acting as bait to...2025-05-2245 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiling Killers: From South Africa to Scotland YardPsychologist. Intelligence specialist. Co-author of Killer Stories. This week, Paul and Gerard sit down with Brin Hodgskiss for a heavyweight conversation on the dark art of criminal profiling — from Johannesburg to the UK.Brin’s career spans burglary to terrorism, serial rape to murder, with 15 years in British law enforcement after starting out in SAPS. Now with the NHS, he brings that same insight to storytelling, consulting on the psychology of narrative and transformation.We get into:Profiling: SA vs UK — what’s different, what worksThe inner monologues of serial offendersInterviewing violent criminals (hint: it’s not...2025-05-211h 31Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime Africa🔥 When Fire Becomes Murder: Profiling Arsonists with Ed NordskogNo case breakdown. No fluff. Just a gripping conversation with one of the world’s top arson and bombing experts.We’re joined by Ed Nordskog—retired arson/bomb investigator for the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department, FBI instructor, US Marine vet, and author of six essential books on fire-related crime. With over 2,100 arson cases under his belt and profiles on dozens of serial arsonists, Ed is the real deal.Together with Paul and Gerard, he unpacks:– What makes a serial arsonist tick– How investigators track killers who burn– The brutal realities of fire death scenes–...2025-05-131h 59Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime Africa🎙️ Talking about Murder with Tshego Paledi: Profiler Meets Telling the Told & UntoldWhat’s it like creating true crime content in South Africa? This week, we sit down with YouTuber and storyteller Tshego Paledi (44K+ subscribers) for a raw, behind-the-scenes look at life in the local crime content game.No case breakdowns—just an honest convo about the highs, hate, ethics, and emotional toll of documenting real stories of violence, injustice, and survival.From the cases that changed her to the criticism she faces, Tshego joins Paul and Gerard to unpack what it really means to tell the told and untold in a country where crime is pers...2025-05-131h 39That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union ShowFEAR FRANCE? | GURTHRO STEENKAMP ON SCRUMS, STALLIONS & SOUTH AFRICA’S EURO STRUGGLERugby’s never off — and neither are we.This week on That Rugby Union Show, we pack more heat than a 7–1 bench split.🎙️ Gurthro Steenkamp joins Xola — Bok centurion, SA Player of the Year, now La Rochelle scrum guru — to break down the French rugby machine from the inside. Should the Boks be worried?🧠 Simnikiwe Xabanisa returns with flyhalf-level insight and a few spicy takes.Inside the Episode:🇫🇷 Fear France? • Dominant scrums: Gurthro spills La Rochelle's secrets💔 Champions Cup heartbreak: Are French sides slipping?🌍 Why SA sides struggle in Europe: Climate, culture… kak pl...2025-05-021h 29Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaNatural Born Killer?: Boetie Boer Wilken | South African Serial Ep 1Series Description:South African Serial is a 12-part true crime anthology series. Each episode investigates one unforgettable South African crime.Episode Description:In our first episode, we unpack the disturbing case of Stewart “Boetie Boer” Wilken — one of South Africa’s most dangerous serial killers. With a history of necrophilia, cannibalism, and a terrifying God complex, Wilken confessed to 12 murders and was convicted of 7.This episode draws from exclusive case files and a rare two-day prison interview conducted in 2006. It’s a harrowing journey into the making of a monster.New episodes drop weekly — f...2025-05-0145 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaStolen from the womb: Caesarean KidnappingThis week: one of the rarest — and most horrifying — crimes on earth. A baby ripped from the womb in a violent act of theft.We go deep into the case of Loretta Cook, a 24-year-old from Toekomsrus, whose web of lies led to murder and left a newborn fighting for life.South Africa has seen not one, but at least three known caesarean kidnappings — an almost unheard-of crime globally. Why here? Why now?Gerard Labuschagne and Paul Llewellyn unpack:Why women fake pregnancies and kill to make them realHow th...2025-04-301h 24That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union Show🔥 BULLS CHARGE| ROBBIE FLECK ON IKEYS’ CUP GLORYRugby never stops — and neither do we. This week, on That Rugby Union Show, we’re diving into it like a loose forward at a buffet.🎙️ Xola sits down with Robbie Fleck to unpack UCT Ikeys’ epic Varsity Cup win. How did they pull it off? What’s it mean for SA rugby? We’ve got the man himself — and he’s bringing all the insights.Then, we hit the big leagues…🐂 BULLS: CHARGE OR CHOKE?• Historic win at Thomond Park: Bulls break Munster’s home record. First SA team to do it there. Massive.• Playoff pre...2025-04-2556 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaFamily Killer: Henri van BredaHe murdered his family with an axe — thencalmly called emergency services like nothing happened.We're digging into one of South Africa’s mostshocking crimes: the brutal axe murders committed by 20-year-old Henri van Breda.In 2015, inside the family’s luxury estate inStellenbosch, Henri killed his parents and brother—and nearly murdered his teenage sister, who somehow survived. The aftermath? A strange 911 call, self-inflicted wounds, and a trial that exposed chilling levels of control, detachment, and deceit.What turns a privileged young man into a familyannihilator? What does the psychology say about motive, manipulation, and remo...2025-04-221h 15That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union Show💣 SA SCREWED AGAIN? | RWC HOSTING BOMBSHELLRugby never sleeps—especially when World Rugby keeps shifting the damn goalposts.This week, legendary sports writer Simnikiwe Xabanisa joins us to break down the biggest stories lighting up the rugby world:🇿🇦 RWC 2035? Dead.South Africa’s World Cup hosting hopes are toast—outspent, outmanoeuvred, and no longer in the race.💥 Bomb Squad BacklashMatt Williams blames the 7-1 split for Kitshoff’s injury. Rassie hits back. World Rugby finally weighs in.🧠 Old Guard vs. New BloodIs Erasmus playing a smart long game—or just playing favourites?🔙 Etzebeth ReturnsThe Sharks unleash 12 Boks, includin...2025-04-181h 25Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Psychology of Murder with Finland’s Leading Profiler Dr. Helinä HäkkänenWe're stepping out of the morgue and into the mind — with one of the world’s top forensic psychologists.This week on Profiler Africa, our guest is Dr. Helinä Häkkänen, a Finnish powerhouse whose work has shaped war crimes trials, courtroom psychology, and criminal investigations from South Africa to The Hague. With over 60 publications and a career advising the ICC and European law enforcement, she’s the real deal — no drama, just science.We unpack what real profiling looks like — far from the TV nonsense. From prepping witnesses for court using cutting-edge trauma techniques, t...2025-04-161h 07That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union Show🎙️ Elton Jantjies: I’LL BE BACK!!!This week on That Rugby Union Show, we bring you an exclusive announcement from former Springbok fly-half Elton Jantjies: he's returning to professional rugby.After a long layoff and public scrutiny, Elton joins us for a rare and focused conversation about where he's headed next—on and off the field. No sensationalism, just a player with unfinished business, fresh ambitions, and something to prove.In this episode:✅ Elton confirms his comeback to rugby🏉 Staying connected to the game during his time away🔥 His goals for the next chapter—both as a player...2025-04-1158 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Horrors of Stewart 'Boetie Boer' Wilken: South Africa’s Most Notorious KillerIn this episode of Profiler Africa, we take a deep dive into the terrifying case of Stewart Wilken, South Africa's most notorious serial killer. Wilken's killing spree, which spanned the early 1990s, left a trail of horrific murders that shocked the nation. Through an in-depth analysis of his background, his brutal crimes, and the dark psychology behind his actions, we uncover the twisted motivations that drove his reign of terror.From his troubled childhood in Boksburg to his descent into violence, we’ll explore how Wilken’s traumatic experiences shaped his need for power, control, and revenge. We’l...2025-04-091h 29That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union ShowSave our Scrums with guest Robbi KempsonRugby never sleeps—big wins, crushing losses, squad shake-ups, and the stories shaping the game. That Rugby Union Show is where we break it all down.This week, we’re tackling one of the hottest topics in rugby: Is the scrum under threat?🚨 Save Our Scrums – With special guest Robbie Kempson🏉 Why the Boks Dominate the Scrum – The science behind SA’s set-piece power⚠️ World Rugby’s Rule Changes – Are scrums being phased out?🇺🇸 The MRL Experiment – Is the U.S. killing the scrum for good?📊 Bok Barometer – Who’s next in line for the Springbok front row?🌍 URC & Sevens Acti...2025-04-041h 11Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Seesig Monster: Inside the mind of Kyle Ruiters with Col. (ret.) Kirsten ClarkIn this episode of Profiler Africa, we’re joined by Colonel (Ret.) Kirsten Clark, former SAPS Investigative Psychologist and Criminal Behaviour Specialist, to discuss the chilling case of Kyle Ruiters. Clark conducted a psychological assessment of Ruiters in 2019, offering rare insight into his mindset, disturbing obsessions, and the dark psychological profile that emerged from her report.Ruiters, who brutally murdered and dismembered his victim, displayed traits of narcissism, manipulation, and a dangerous preoccupation with control and power. In tonight’s episode, we’ll unpack Clark’s findings, from his early childhood issues to his fascination with serial killers...2025-04-011h 39That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union ShowInside the Mind of a Springbok Coach with guest Swys de BruinRugby never sleeps—big wins, crushing losses, squad shake-ups, and the stories shaping the game. That Rugby Union Show is where we break it all down.This week, we’re diving into the mind of one of rugby’s sharpest thinkers: Swys de Bruin—performance coach for SA Rugby and a mastermind of attacking play.Topics this week:🏉 Springbok Women’s updates, World Cup prep & Nadine Roos’ impact💪 Player welfare: injuries & mental health in the game🧠 Inside the Springbok machine—how Rassie & co. dominate through tactics🔍 Who’s next for the Boks? Frontru...2025-03-271h 13Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Krugersdorp Cult Killings with Author Jana MarxIn this episode of Profiler Africa, we’re joined by Jana Marx, author of The Krugersdorp Cult Killings: Inside Cecilia Steyn's Reign of Terror, as she takes us through the disturbing story of the Electus Per Deus cult. Between 2012 and 2016, a group led by Cecilia Steyn carried out a series of brutal murders, driven by religious extremism, manipulation, and revenge. Steyn used her influence to brainwash followers into believing they were on a divine mission, leading to a chilling and violent rampage.Jana’s book exposes the twisted inner workings of this cult, and in this episode, we’l...2025-03-261h 40That Rugby Union ShowThat Rugby Union ShowThe Rise of a Legend with guest Breyton PaulseRugby never sleeps — big wins, crushing losses, squad shake-ups, and the stories shaping the game. And That Rugby Union Show is where we break it all down.For our inaugural episode, we’re joined by Springbok legend Breyton Paulse—64 Test caps, 26 tries, and a career packed with unforgettable moments. But tonight, it’s not just about the past. We’re diving into:🏉 The biggest rugby headlines right now🏆 Team selections, tournament results & shake-ups🔥 Breyton’s unfiltered take on today’s game💭 War stories from his playing days📢 Engage with...2025-03-201h 10Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaShocking Courtroom Moments: A Crime Reporter's View with Jana MarxWhat really happens inside South Africa’s courtrooms? What is it like to cover the country’s most gripping murder trials?In this episode of Profiler Africa, we sit down with Jana Marx, an award-winning journalist and true crime author, to uncover the hidden world of crime reporting. From high-profile cases to shocking behind-the-scenes moments, Jana shares what it takes to bring the truth to light.🔍 Get an insider’s look at true crime journalism, the challenges of reporting on brutal cases, and the stories that have stayed with her over the years.📢 Support the...2025-03-181h 22Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe murder of Reeva Steenkamp by Oscar PistoriusThe Oscar Pistorius trial remains one of the most infamous criminal cases in South African history. Twelve years after Reeva Steenkamp’s tragic death, the case continues to spark debate about justice, privilege, and rehabilitation.In this episode of Profiler Africa, forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne, who was part of the prosecution team, joins Paul Llewellyn to break down the facts. What really happened on that fateful night? What do we know for certain? And how did the case evolve through the legal system—from trial to sentencing to parole?🔊 Listen in as we unpack the key mom...2025-03-181h 36Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaCrime, Power & the Law: A conversation with Advocate Gerrie NelIn this episode of Profiler Africa, we’re joined by one of South Africa’s most respected legal minds, Gerrie Nel.With a career spanning decades, Nel has prosecuted some of the country’s most high-profile cases, including the conviction of former police chief Jackie Selebi and leading the Oscar Pistorius murder trial. We explore his early years as a prosecutor, the challenges of working within South Africa’s complex legal and political landscape, and the lasting impact of his work on the justice system.From his time with the Scorpions to his current work with Afr...2025-03-181h 36Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaHillbrow Killer Cop Marius van den HeeverIn 1994, ex-cop Marius van den Heever was convicted of three brutal murders, arson, and weapons theft. Sentenced to life, he spent decades behind bars—until 2018, when the High Court overturned his denied parole and set him free.How does a convicted killer walk free? What changed?In this episode of Profiler Africa, Paul Llewellyn and forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne break down the case. Gerard personally assessed van den Heever for parole in 2014, offering rare insight into a man who convinced the system he was no longer a threat.We dissect the crimes, the pa...2025-03-181h 41Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Pastor's Murder: Inside an Intimate Partner Murder MysteryIn October 2021, respected pastor Liezel de Jager returned home from her morning jog—only to be ambushed and murdered just steps from her front door. The attack was brutal, the motive unclear. Years later, her husband, Werner de Jager, was arrested for the crime—but before he could stand trial, he took his own life.In this episode of Profiler Africa, we delve into the psychological complexities of intimate partner homicide. What drives a spouse to kill? Why do some offenders display post-crime remorse, while others show none?Joining us is criminologist Naomi Griffiths, a form...2025-03-181h 16Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaA Serial Killer in the Making? An interview with the murderer Jose da SilvaIn 2002, forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne walked into his first crime scene—a brutal murder that would lead to the capture of Axe Killer Jose da Silva. But what happened next was even more chilling.In this episode of Profiler Africa, we take you inside the case with rare, unnerving audio of Gerard’s interview with the killer—recorded just hours after his arrest, in the very bathroom where the murder took place. It’s a raw, unfiltered glimpse into the mind of a murderer and the investigative process that ended his reign of terror.📢 Support the Show:2025-03-181h 28Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaBody Of Evidence: Stories from behind the Pathologist's knife with guest Dr Hestelle van StadenForensic pathologists uncover the final truths that the dead leave behind. Their work tells the untold stories of crime, tragedy, and justice—one autopsy at a time.In this episode of Profiler Africa, we sit down with Dr. Hestelle van Staden, a forensic pathologist dedicated to deciphering the secrets held within the human body. From high-profile murder cases to overlooked tragedies, she reveals the reality of unnatural death in South Africa and the vital role forensic pathology plays in the pursuit of truth.Dr. van Staden is the author of Outopsie: Bloed Vertaal ’n Storie and...2025-03-181h 16Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaForensic Pathology in South Africa with Dr Shakeera HollandForensic pathology is at the heart of criminal investigations—determining causes of death, uncovering hidden evidence, and bringing crucial facts to court. But what really happens behind the autopsy table?In this episode of Profiler Africa, we’re joined by Dr. Shakeera Holland, Head of the Department of Forensic Medicine and Pathology at the University of the Witwatersrand. With years of experience overseeing hundreds of cases annually for the Gauteng Department of Health, Dr. Holland provides expert insight into the challenges, advancements, and real-world impact of forensic pathology.From unraveling complex deaths to the evolving scie...2025-03-181h 14Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Forensic Science of Identifying Bodies with Lawrence HillIn rural South Africa, a grim discovery: human remains with no identity, no backstory, and no immediate leads. How do forensic experts step in to solve the mystery?From analyzing bone fragments to DNA profiling and isotopic science, forensic specialists use cutting-edge techniques to uncover who the victim was, where they came from, and what happened to them. These methods not only help solve crimes but also provide closure to families searching for answers.In this episode of Profiler Africa, forensic scientist Lawrence Hill joins us to explore the fascinating process of identifying unknown human...2025-03-181h 30Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Murder of Jacques du Plessis by Mariska du PlessisOn the night of June 23, 2017, Mariska du Plessis made two chilling calls to the police. In the first, she claimed her husband was violently attacking her and their son. Less than 20 minutes later, her second call told a different story—Jacques du Plessis had been shot by intruders.But what really happened that night?Mariska later claimed self-defense, citing battered woman syndrome, but investigators uncovered evidence of a volatile and destructive relationship where both partners contributed to a cycle of conflict and dysfunction. This case raises complex questions about domestic violence, legal defenses, and the ps...2025-03-181h 30Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Murder of Gabriela Kabrins AlbanIn this episode of Profiler Africa, forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne unpacks the shocking murder of Gabriela Kabrins Alban, a successful marketing executive from California who was found brutally killed in a Cape Town hotel room. Her boyfriend, Diego Novella, a wealthy Guatemalan national with a history of drug use, was later convicted of her murder.We explore the toxic dynamics of their relationship, the psychological factors behind the crime, and the chilling details that made this case one of South Africa’s most disturbing. What really happened behind closed doors, and what does this case reveal about in...2025-03-181h 28Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaTeenage Serial Killer: The Vredendal MurdererWe’re diving into the chilling case of a teenage serial killer from Vredendal in the Western Cape. At just 14 years old, he committed his first violent crime—and his reign of terror only escalated. But could he have been stopped earlier?Join us as we unravel the harrowing details of his crimes, examine the failures that allowed him to keep killing, and ask the haunting question: Where is he now?This is a case that Gerard Labuschagne worked on personally, so you’ll get unparalleled insights and the ultimate insider perspective. Don’t miss this gripping episode of Profiler Africa.🌟...2025-01-011h 13Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Murder of Susan RohdeIn this episode of Profiler Live, we delve into the mysterious death of Susan Rohde. Was it a tragic suicide, or was there something more sinister behind it? Jason Rohde, a wealthy businessman, became the central figure in a case that raised as many questions as it answered.Join Paul Llewellyn and forensic psychology expert Gerard Labuschagne as they break down the complex details of this case. From key evidence to the theories that still swirl around Susan’s death, we explore the twists and turns of this gripping story.🔴 Don’t forget to visit Youtube and like, subscribe, and hit the...2025-01-011h 19Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Murder of Anisha van NiekerkIn 2008, the brutal murder of Anisha van Niekerk shocked South Africa. This week, Profiler Africa takes you inside the case with forensic psychologist Gerard Labuschagne and retired Lt. Col. Jan de Lange, who led the investigation. Together, they unravel the sequence of events and the evidence that brought clarity to a deeply unsettling crime.What were the key breakthroughs in the investigation? How did the psychological profiling and investigative techniques help uncover the truth? Gerard and Jan share their personal experiences, shedding light on the challenges and decisions that shaped the outcome of the case.🌟 Support the Show:Become a mem...2025-01-011h 33Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Serial Killer Catcher: Micki PistoriusThis Week on Profiler Africa: A True Crime ExclusiveFor the first time ever, South Africa’s premier criminal profilers—Gerard Labuschagne and Micki Pistorius—sit down for an unmissable conversation. Micki, the trailblazing founder of the forensic psychology section at the South African Police Service (SAPS), and Gerard, her successor, take you behind the scenes of profiling the country’s most chilling cases.From serial killers to high-profile investigations, this episode delivers unparalleled insights and stories only they can share. Don’t miss this rare meeting of two brilliant minds who shaped the very foundations of forensic psychology in South Africa.🌟 S...2025-01-011h 07Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaThe Tokoloshe Killer: Elifasi MsomiThis week on Profiler Africa, we uncover the chilling case of Elifasi Msomi, infamously known as "The Axe Killer" & "The Tokoloshe Killer". Between 1953 and 1955, Msomi, from southern KwaZulu-Natal, claimed he was driven by a tokoloshe—an evil spirit—to commit 15 brutal murders. His actions left an indelible mark on South African history, shocking the nation and raising complex questions about culture, belief, and justice.Join us as we unravel the psychological and cultural dimensions of Msomi's crimes, the historical context of the investigation, and the supernatural claims that complicated the pursuit of justice.🌟 Support the Show:Become a member on YouTube...2025-01-011h 08Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaA Typical South African Serial Killer The Quarry RevisitedHow Gerard and his team tracked down the Quarry Killer. We revisit a case we've discussed before on the audio pod, this time we get to really deep dive into the case and how it unfolded with crime scene photographs, forensics and more. Head over to Youtube to watch!2025-01-011h 25Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaSA's Youngest Serial KillerPaul & Gerard discuss the case of SA’s youngest ever female serial killer. Join the chat Live on Profiler Africa on Youtube Tuesdays at 8pm CAT.2025-01-011h 02Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER EP 38 - The Rosebank Police Station ShootingIn 2011, tragedy struck the Rosebank police station in Johannesburg when a disgruntled police clerk attacked station commander Lieutenant Colonel Thandi Mkhize and Captain Neelavathi Naidu before turning the gun on himself. The incident, which occurred following a recent disciplinary hearing where the clerk was found guilty of mishandling firearms, shocked the nation and left lingering questions about motive and mental state. Join us as we explore the heart-wrenching events of that fateful day and delve into the broader implications of this senseless act of violence.2024-04-111h 29Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER EP 37 - The Sunday Serial Killer Sifiso MkhwanaziOn March 13, 2024, Sifiso Mkhwanazi was convicted of the brutal murders of six Johannesburg sex workers. These heinous crimes occurred between April and October 2022 within the confines of his father's panel beating workshop located in downtown Joburg. Delving into the intricate details of the case, Gerard unfolds the chilling narrative as recounted by the perpetrator himself during a recent interview. Unveiling the grim reality behind this serial killer's actions, Gerard sheds light on the dark underbelly of the City of Gold.2024-03-131h 20Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER EP 36 - The Seesig Monster Kyle RuitersWe're diving into a case that rocked the quiet neighborhood of Bellville in Cape Town. It was August 21, 2019, when Lynette Volschenk, known for her gentle nature and dedication to her work, crossed paths with Kyle Ruiters, who would later infamously be dubbed the Seesig Monster. Their encounter unleashed a nightmare scenario, shedding light on Kyle's dark obsession with serial killers and leading to a crime that horrified the nation. Join us as we uncover the chilling details of this tragic event and explore its lasting impact.2024-03-0358 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER EP 35 - The Terrible Trail of Gerhard AckermanGerhard Ackerman was convicted on charges of rape, human trafficking and the unlawful possession, creation and distribution of child pornography. Ackerman was also found guilty of attempted murder for “selling” the sexual services of a youth to disgraced advocate Paul Kennedy, who he knew was HIV-positive. This is the story of one of the bad guys.2024-02-121h 04Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 34 - Top Cop Part 2In episode two we deep-dive into the story of Anisha Van Niekerk, and how Gerard and Jannie De Lange worked tirelessly to solve the case and bring justice to the family.2024-01-261h 16Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 33 - Top Cop Part 1In episode one, we meet one of South Africa's most accomplished investigators, retired Lt Colonel and IPS Lead Detective, Jannie De Lange. We discuss his career highs and lows and his relationship with Gerard, as they reminisce about their time together and some of their favourite cases.2024-01-261h 50Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 32 - The Get Out Of Jail CardWe're back! Catching up on the state of the nation, and deep diving into the fact that some very interesting criminals are being released on parole. Through the lens of the Oscar Pistorius, Station Strangler & Donovan Moodley cases, we interrogate the parole system and whether certain people should once again be walking amongst us.2024-01-251h 35Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 31 - The Railway KillerDuring 2005 four bodies were found in Pretoria, the capital city of South Africa, along the railway tracks. This led to a serial murder task team being formed. The case would take 8 more years to solve. It would take patience, solid police work...and a little bit of luck, to ultimately catch a serial killer!2023-01-1659 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 30 - Forensic Tools With Peter FryerWe go behind the scenes of crime prevention to discuss the technologies that are applied in local law enforcement, with Peter Fryer, who has spent decades providing the latest tech to the local police, and the private security industry, through companies such as Forensic Tools & Risk Diversion. What is out there, and how is it currently being used by the police in particular? This episode delves quite deeply into where the fundamental problems are within the mechanics of local law enforcement. By way of a disclaimer, the outlook is pretty scary, so grab a stress ball for this one...2023-01-091h 01Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 29 - A Conversation With Colonel Tollie Vreugdenburg & the story of 'Die Boeremag'An incredible first conversation with retiring Colonel Tollie Vreugdenburg, the Head of South Africa's counter terrorism efforts, about his incredible career. We focus today on 'Die Boeremag' case. You'd better sit down for incredible insights into why SAPS likely closed down the specialist units, to just how close Nelson Mandela came to losing his life. The episode marks the Colonel's retirement from service.2022-12-301h 54Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 28 - Talking Forensic Pathology W Dr Hestelle Van StadenIn this episode we take a fascinating deep dive into the world of Forensic Pathology with one of SA's leading experts, and a life long devotee to the profession, Dr Hestelle van Staden.2022-12-161h 21Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 27 - The Newcastle Serial KillerIn Newcastle, a town between Joburg and Durban in South Africa, in 2004, four men are murdered over the period of a year. All are killed in or around the exercise park bordering the town. Two of the incidents take place when the killer interrupts young couples engaging in romantic activities. He rapes the woman in each case, but he lets them live. The murders are brutal and the killer leaves little evidence. How will police eventually catch this incredibly dangerous murderer?2022-12-0959 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 26 - The Right Wing Tale of Harry Johannes KnoesenOn 28 November 2019 the Crimes Against the State (CATS) unit of the South African Police Service (SAPS) arrested Harry Johannes Knoesen (60) at his girlfriend’s home in Witbank, South Africa. The charge? Contravening the Protection of Constitutional Democracy Against Terrorist and Related Activities Act (33 of 2004) by preparing and planning to carry out terrorist attacks, and soliciting support for an entity engaged in terrorist activity. The following day three co-conspirators were arrested. The plan was to take over the country, a lofty one. How had they intended to do it and how did police ultimately catch up with them?2022-11-291h 37Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 25 - The Westonaria Strangler“I want you to help me because when I am with a woman, I lose control and don’t know what I am doing. I kill all of them if they don’t give me what I want”...meet serial killer Jack Mogale, the subject of this week's episode.2022-11-141h 18Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 24 - Talking True Crime SA With Nicole EngelbrechtIn this episode we chat with Nicole Engelbrecht, creator and host of the True Crime South Africa Podcast, and author of 'Samurai Sword Murder', which tells the story of Morne Harmse, who attacked a number of people with a samurai sword at the Nic Diederichs high school in Krugersdorp in 2008.2022-11-071h 13Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 23 - The State versus Mariska Du PlessisOn 23 June 2017 Mariska du Plessis made two calls to the police. In the first at 22:55 she said that her husband, was attacking her son and herself. In the second, made at 23:15, she advised police that her husband had been shot by intruders. So what actually happened?2022-10-311h 09Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 22 - Current Cases (The Bodies in JHB) & Gerard's Guide to Investigative PsychologyThis week we discuss some current cases, including the discovery of the bodies of murdered sex workers in downtown Joburg recently. Plus, we break down Forensic Psychology, and Gerard explains how you might set about learning to do what he does!2022-10-241h 10Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 21 - Killing the King of America: A Threat Assessment Case StudyAround the time of US president Barrack Obama’s visit to Sub-Saharan Africa in June/July 2013 an emailed death threat was received by the US consulate in Johannesburg. This is the story of the man who sent it.2022-10-1753 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 20 - Gerhard Jansen van Vuuren & the Murder of Andrea VenterThat one case that Gerard was determined to see through to a conviction. How Gerhard janse van Vuuren murdered his girlfriend Andrea Venter, and then tried to get away with it.2022-10-101h 17Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 19 - Brian The Stalker HarveyWe travel back to 2010 and discuss the case of Brian Harvey who stalked over 40 women.2022-03-241h 13Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 18 - JOSEPH THE AXEMAN NTSHONGWANAIn the space of just 8 days in March 2011 Joseph Ntshongwana killed four people, some of whom he decapitated with an axe.2022-03-021h 23Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 17 - CATCHING UP PT 2More catching up...this time we talk about Gerard's 2nd book and tease the cases within it.2022-03-0250 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 16 - CATCHING UP PT 1Profiler is back with new episodes. Paul catches up with Gerard to discuss his book, surviving a pandemic, and his thoughts on the current state of the police and crime in SA. Oh...and don't worry we will be giving away that book on social media!2022-02-181h 14Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 15 - THE AXE KILLER JOSE DA SILVAIn 2002, Gerard attended his first crime scene. It was that of the murder victim of Jose da Silva, who would become known as the Axe Killer. Hear the true audio from the interview conducted by Gerard, in the bathroom, where he killed his victim, on the day he was arrested. A gripping insight into the mind of a killer!2021-03-111h 19Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 14 - Tommy WilliamsThe incredible tale of South Africa's longest active serial killer. Upon his conviction the Judge said “The State (and here I include the two prosecutors and the SAPS investigating team) have excelled in investigating and prosecuting this case to its ultimate successful conclusion. The difficulties should be self-evident, given the fact that the 1987 matter occurred twenty two years ago, the inquest docket had been destroyed and material witnesses have passed away or have retired. The same obstacles presented themselves to a lesser extent in the 2004 matter. Dogged persistence and diligent investigation coupled with meticulous prosecution have borne fruit for the St...2021-02-2659 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 13 - Stewart 'Boetie Boer' WilkenI would strangle them while having sex. I would go into another world when I am strangling them and raping them. When I was strangling them, they would go limp, like a jellyfish, made me feel like a king .... I had sex with some of the dead bodies. Then I can have my ecstasy. Then I can do things the way I wanted to, there is no screaming and chaos. I would fantasize about the murder and masturbate at the body also (an excerpt from an interview in 2006, with the serial killer Stewart Boetie Boer Wilken).2021-02-181h 03Profiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 12 - The Knysna MurdersIn this episode we discuss a series of murders that took place in Knysna over a one-month period in Autumn, 2005. They became known as The Knysna Murders. Heinrich van Rooyen, a young DJ, was convicted for the murders of Jessica Wheeler(18) and Victoria Stadler(20).2021-02-0452 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 11 - Violent FantasyIn this episode we discuss Violent Fantasy illustrated through the murder of Michael van Eck in Welkom in 2011. Michael was lured via a dating app to a secluded area, where he was murdered and dismembered. Later his face was skinned. What drove two people to do this?2019-08-2751 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 10 - The Norwood Serial KillerKobus Geldenhuys, the Norwood Serial Killer, committed house robberies, rapes and murders in the early 1990s in Johannesburg. A policeman, he raped 2 victims and murdered 5. Gerard interviewed Kobus from 1996 to 2001, and again in 2011.2019-08-2049 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 9 - The Nocturnal ProwlerIn this episode we discuss a current case. A murderer, dubbed the Nocturnal Prowler, is believed to be killing homeless people in Pretoria. We unpack the case, profile the killer, and learn what to expect as the case unfolds.2019-08-1550 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 8 - Fetal AbductionIn this episode we explore Fetal Abduction, otherwise known as Cesarean Kidnapping. These crimes involve the forced removal, by means of a crude caesarean-section, of an unborn child. This may or many not involve the subsequent death of the mother. In recent history, 21 incidents of this crime have taken place around the world. There have been 4 incidents in South Africa, we discuss 3 of them.2019-05-2347 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 7 - Muti MurderIn this episode we discuss the phenomenon of Muti Murder. Muti murder is defined as a murder in which body parts are removed from a live victim for the sole purpose of using the victim's body parts medicinally. These body parts are then often mixed with other ingredients or used alone to make a medicine called muti. Muti is a Zulu (umuthi) word meaning medicine. The victim usually dies as a result of blood loss from the wounds. While muti murders have occurred throughout history in South African culture, little is known about them and little research exists on the...2019-05-1550 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 6 - The Hillbrow Birthday RapistIn this episode we discuss the Hillbrow Birthday Rapist who was convicted on 112 of 122 counts against him which included 39 counts of rape, 11 compelled rapes, 1 sexual assault, 15 kidnappings, 15 assaults, 2 assault GBH and 29 thefts. He was sentenced to 39 life sentences & 212 years2019-04-1845 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 5 - The Griekwestad Family MurdersIn this episode we discuss the Griekwestad family murders. Don Steenkamp murdered his father Deon Steenkamp (44) his mother Christel (43) and his sister Marthella (14) on April 6, 2012. We are joined by Bronwynn Stollarz. Bronwynn is a Clinical Psychologist. She resigned from SAPs special investigative psychology section on the rank of Colonel. In the IPS she was the section commander of the Forensic Psychology sub-section, in charge of the forensic psychologists in the unit. She has worked on a wide range of psychologically motivated crimes, from single sexual murders, to family murders to rape series. She worked on high profile cases such as...2019-04-1144 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 4 - The Port Elizabeth Prostitute KillerIn this episode we discuss the Port Elizabeth Prostitute Killer, Riaan Stander, who murder sex workers Lee-Ann Rondganger and Noxolo Ngqoyiya in 2007.2019-04-0347 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 3 - Serial Crime in SA and how to train a Profiler.In this episode we discuss the history and status of serial crime in SA and learn how the cops are trained to catch serial criminals.2019-03-2847 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 2 - Creating A Profile & The Johannesburg Mine Dump MurdererIn this episode we discuss the history and evolution of profiling, and we profile the Johannesburg Mine Dump Murderer.2019-03-2053 minProfiler: True Crime AfricaProfiler: True Crime AfricaPROFILER Episode 1 - The Quarry KillerProfiler is a weekly discussion between journalist Paul Llewellyn & former Head of Forensic Investigation at the South African Police Service, Gerard Labuschagne, who worked on over 300 serial murder and rape cases in his career. Hear the stories behind the killers who stalk the streets of South Africa. In this episode we discuss serial murder in SA and the Quarry Killer.2019-03-1148 min