Shows
Integrate or Die: a work technology podcastRussel Klosk - Workforce Planning TechnologySteve talks with Russell Klosk about workforce planning, what it means to do it well, and how technology is changing how it is done. Russell is a Managing Director at Deloitte and author of a new book on workforce planning called Talent Prophecy. He has helped hundreds of companies build strategies that ensure their workforce can support their strategic goals while meeting their financial objectives. Some of the things we cover
+ Understanding how workforce planning impacts long-term growth and near-term performance
+ The need to incorporate non-HR data into workforce plans from finance, procurement and supply c...
2026-02-0443 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastMuriel Clauson - Deskless and Frontline Worker TechnologySteve talks with Muriel Clauson about building HR technology focused on supporting frontline, “deskless” workers. Muriel is the founder and CEO of Anthill, a company that builds technology to engage and retain distributed, frontline workforces. Some things we cover:
+ What makes the frontline employee experience distinct and why it is often overlooked
+ Value gained by establishing better lines of communication with frontline employees
+ The unique challenges of being a frontline manager
We also learn why many frontline jobs are not likely to be replaced by AI.
2026-02-0342 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastKarie Willyerd - Learning and Development TechnologySteve talks with Karie Willyerd about how technology is and is not changing the field of learning and development. Karie’s career is focused on building workforce capabilities whether as a Chief Learning Officer, a start-up entrepreneur, or an author of multiple award-winning books on career development and workforce trends. Some of the things we cover
+ How to get budget to invest in learning technology
+ The importance of customers holding vendors accountable for technology integration
+ The changing but critical role people play in the learning process
We also learn why t...
2026-02-0150 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastJeroen Van Hautte - Talent and Skills Intelligence TechnologySteve talks with Jeroen Van Hautte about using technology to analyze skill requirements with organizations. Jeroen is the CTO and co-founder of Tech Wolf, a technology solution that helps organization understand and manage the capabilities of their workforce. Some of the things we cover
+ The importance of being clear on what you want technology solutions to do
+ The value of approaching HR problems from an engineering perspective
+ Why it is useful to view technology from a functionally agnostic perspective
We also learn how to turn a student project into a...
2026-01-3144 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastJason Costello - Funding HR TechnologySteve talks with Jason Corsello about the role of venture capital plays in driving innovation in HR technology. Jason is a founding partner of Acadian Ventures, a company focused on early investment in work technology companies. Some things we cover
+ Why we are set for a major transformation in the HR technology landscape in the coming years
+ What venture capital firms look for when they are deciding whether to fund a company
+ Why it is often not a good idea for entrepreneurs to seek venture capital funding
We also learn what ea...
2026-01-3046 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastJai Shah - Skills Proficiency and Certification TechnologySteve talks with Jai Shah about building HR technology solutions where mistakes could have life threatening consequences. Jai is the CEO and founder of Kahuna, a company that makes solutions to assess proficiency and certify qualifications for jobs requiring specialized skills. Jai has spent his career helping companies use technology to manage complex workflows, employment regulations and scheduling requirements primarily in the energy, manufacturing and healthcare industries. Some of the things we cover
+ Why the devil is in the details when it comes to assessing skills proficiency
+ How to win the support of operational business...
2026-01-2941 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastDavid Verhang - Technology adoption and renewalSteve talks with David Verhaag about adoption and renewal of HR technology solutions. Dave is Chief Customer Officer for Arist, a company that makes technology supporting employee learning and enablement. His career has focused on working with customers to ensure they get value from cloud HR technology solutions. Some of the things we cover:
+ Why customer success functions that sell software license renewals should be compensated differently from sales functions.
+ What customers should ask HR tech vendors during the sales cycle about solution adoption.
+ Why time to value is more important than people...
2026-01-2852 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastTony Ashton - People Analytics TechnologySteve talks with Tony Ashton about workforce analytics technology. Tony is Chief Product Officer at One Model, a people analytics software company. Tony is a pioneer in the field of workforce analytics having built some of the first global, cloud based people analytics technology solutions. Some of the things we cover
+ How the advent of hyper-scaler cloud technology platforms is transforming the field of workforce analytics
+ The cultural impact that results when companies start using HR data to make business decisions
+ The value of plugging things in versus building them yourself
W...
2026-01-2752 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastChristopher Lind - Learning & AI TechnologySteve talks with Christopher Lind about using technology to enable employee learning and workforce transformation. Chris is a former Chief Learning Office who began his career as an educational psychologist and computer programmer. He also studies and writes extensively on how AI technology is impacting work and society. Some of the things we cover:
+ Focusing learning strategies on impacting results instead of building knowledge
+ Aligning HR support functions with the businesses they are supporting
+ How AI enabled skills ontologies are changing how companies support employee learning
We also learn what it...
2026-01-2554 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastPierre Rousseau - Middleware & Integration TechnologySteve talks with Pierre Rousseau about the challenges of managing software integrations. Pierre is the President of Cloud Connectors, a company that provides solutions that manage integrations between HR technology solutions. Some of the things we cover
+ What middleware technology does and why it is more than you might realize
+ Strengths and weakness of different types of middleware platforms
+ How to talk to technology vendors about integrations
We also learn why building your own software integrations tends to be a bad idea.
2026-01-2440 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastBruce Mazza - Technology Partnership StrategiesSteve talks with Bruce Mazza about the role partner management plays in HR technology. Bruce is the SVP of Global Alliances for 360 Learning, a collaborative learning solution. HIs career has focused on building effective partnerships between technology companies that provide different but complementary solutions. Some things we cover:
+ Why you should ask technology vendors about their partner strategy, and what to look for in their answers.
+ The critical but somewhat hidden role middleware plays in the world of HR technology
+ The increasingly critical role integration is having on the use of HR technology
2026-01-2346 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastMike Hudy - Staffing Assessment TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Dr. Mike Hudy about using technology to improve hiring decisions and create positive and equitable candidate experiences. Mike is Chief Science Officer at HireVue and has years of experience building empirically validated assessments to support candidate selection. Some things we cover:
+ Why one of the criteria for evaluating technology solutions should be to consider the alternative
+ The risk and danger of automating stupidity
+ The science of ensuring staffing selection algorithms are accurate, fair, and equitable
We also learn that the requisition process is the root of a...
2026-01-2148 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastJim Newman & Michael Pawlyzyn - Selling HR TechnologySteve and Jordan chat with Jim Newman, founder of HRIZONS and Michael Pawlyczn, head of sales for SAP SuccessFactors North America about what it takes to convince organizations to invest in HR technology. And the actions that have to take place after the initial sale to ensure high levels of adoption and long-term license renewals.
2026-01-2035 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastMary Poppen - Experience Management TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Mary Poppen about links between HR technology, employee experience, and customer experience. Prior to her role as President of the Employee Experience Division of HRIZONs, Mary led customer experience functions in several prominent HR technology companies and wrote a book about customer and employee experience called “Goodbye Churn, Hello Growth!” . Some things we cover:
+ The challenge of experience management being something that everyone is responsible for but that few people are held accountable for.
+ Why companies need more centralized, cross-functional, continuous, integrated employee and customer experience management platforms.
+ Reas...
2026-01-1952 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastSujit Karpe - Skills Management TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Sujit Karpe about using technology to identify, assess and utilize employee skills. Sujit is the Chief Technical Officer at iMocha where he has guided development of large scale HR technology solutions that use AI/ML to improve skills management. Some things we cover:
+ The need for a common language around jobs and skills, and why it is hard to achieve.
+ The difference between skills data platforms and skills application platforms
+ Approaching skills assessment from an employee perspective
We also give Jordan the opportunity to rate Steve’s s...
2026-01-1751 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastMaria Colacurcio - Pay Equity TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Maria Colacurcioabout using technology to reduce pay inequity based on gender bias and other non-job relevant employee characteristics. Maria is CEO for Syndio where she helps companies identify, understand, and correct situations where employees are being paid unfairly relative to their skills and contributions. Some things we cover:
+ Equitable pay does not mean equal pay and why it is hard to ensure people are paid fairly
+ The impact performance management has on achieving pay equity
+ Moving from pay for negotiation to pay for performance
We also...
2026-01-1636 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastSam Passman -Talent Management TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Sam Passman about using technology to support talent management activities such goal setting, coaching, performance management, and career development. Sam is VP Product Management at SAP SuccessFactors and has played a central role in building some of the most widely used learning and talent technology solutions in the market. Some things we cover:
+ Shifting talent management from an organizational driven to employee driven activity
+ How AI is changing how companies and employees do talent management
+ The importance of creating transparency in talent management practices
We also...
2026-01-1548 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastRuss Fadel - Production Worker Learning TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Russ Fadel about using technology to support the training needs and job requirements of shop floor production workers. Russ, CEO at Augmentr brings a different perspective to HR technology coming from a background developing production technology systems. Some things we cover:
+ Unique challenges affecting production workers and operations workforces
+ The value of having better data on production worker skills and capabilities
+ Production worker attitudes toward technology that monitors their productivity and safety
We also learn why Google glasses never became cool in the world of manufacturing...
2026-01-1546 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastPaul Rubenstein - HR Analytics Technology Steve and Jordan talk with Paul Rubensteinabout how to effectively collect and utilize workforce data to drive business results. Paul is the Chief Customer Officer for Vizier and has built a career based on a passion for using science and data to make better decisions about talent. Some of the things we cover:
+ Why data validity has and continues to be a fundamental challenge to the field of HR analytics
+ The importance of looking at data from the perspective of people who do not work in HR
+ What HR can learn from finance w...
2026-01-1450 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastMichael Fitzsimmons - Quality of Hire TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Mike Fitzsimmonsabout using technology to measure and improve quality of hire. Mike is the CEO of Crosschq and is focused on helping companies improve their hiring intelligence through the use of data. Some things we cover:
+ The transformative impact created by accurately measuring the quality of hiring decisions
+ Factors impacting new hire performance that have nothing to do with the employee
+ The challenges to measuring and improving quality of hire at a holistic level
We also ponder why people persist in doing things that are clearly n...
2026-01-1249 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastMichael Grimm - Data Visualization TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Michael Grimm about design and use of technology that enables companies to effectively visualize and interpret workforce data. Michael is the founder of Ingentis, where he has helped hundreds of companies use technology to integrate, interpret and act on workforce, financial and operations data from multiple sources. Some things we cover:
+ The transformational power associated with being able to see data in a meaningful way
+ The value of using technology that is designed to work across different HR platforms
+ Why people are one of the biggest barriers to...
2026-01-0947 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastJenny Dearborn - Learning TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Jenny Dearborn about using technology to support employee learning. Jenny is the Chief People Officer for BTS and has had a career focused on using technology to improve employee development. She also wrote the book Data Drivenon using workforce data to improve sales performance. Some things we cover:
+ Why traditional learning technology often fails to improve employee skills and performance
+ The value and limitations of using employee assessment tools to support development
+ Building learning programs that business leaders will value as being effective and relevant
2026-01-0852 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastImran Sajid: Payroll TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Imran Sajid about the under-appreciated impact payroll technology has on organizational performance and employee experience. Imran is the Global HR and Payroll Technology Executive at EPI-USE and has spent a career deploying, developing and educating people on the use of complex global payroll solutions. Some things we cover:
+ The challenges of building technology where 99.99% accuracy is considered a total failure.
+ How providing employees insight and control over how they are paid affects their lives
+ Why seemingly small changes to pay practices can create massive logistical issues
2026-01-0741 min
Integrate or Die: a work technology podcastBen Granger - Employee Listening TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Ben Granger using technology to understand and influence employee attitudes, engagement and commitment. The Chief Workplace Psychologist at Qualtrics, Ben is a pioneer and leading expert in the use of technology and data to understand and act on employee experience, perceptions, and attitudes. We go much deeper into the true purpose of employee listening technology and the fact that the way in which organizations operationalize employee matters a great deal. Some things we cover:
+ Why trust is at the heart of the employee experience
+ The difference between employee listening and...
2026-01-0650 min
Integrate or Die: a work technology podcastAdam Greenberg: work scheduling technologySteve and Jordan talk with Adam Greenberg about using technology to manage employee shift schedules. Adam is President and CEO of MakeShift and is a leading figure in using technology to reimagine how companies manage employee’s time. Some things we cover:
+ Why scheduling is far more complicated than people realize
+ How methods used to manage work schedules impact employee morale and team building
+ The diverse data used for workforce scheduling from weather forecasts to employee skills
We also go down memory lane when Jordan reveals he had a Din...
2026-01-0544 minIntegrate or Die: a work technology podcastThomas Otter - Future of HR TechnologySteve and Jordan talk with Thomas Otter about the current state and future growth of the HR technology market. Thomas is a General Partner at Acadian Ventures, a company the funds the growth of HR technology companies. During his career he has held almost every type of job in HR technology one could have including leading product management for one of the largest HR technology companies on the planet. Some things we cover:
+ Workforce analytics and why HR should be making it more of a priority
+ The underestimated impact that AI will have on work...
2026-01-0156 min