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Talking LionEp. 75: Cody LovaasIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Cody Lovaas about cantaloupe juice, spirituality, break ups, surfing, transient rooms, San Diego doors, social engineering, Jason Mraz's support, high school crushes, fleeting feelings, hungover music video shoots, scarcity mentalities, ichthyophobia, wellness, Wim Hof, his song "All Around Me" (with Bahari), and working together to co-produce "Rocket". Discord: sleepinglionmusic.com/discord (Edited by Mason Maggio) 2022-06-301h 31

Talking LionEp. 74: EmeiIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Emei about Settlers of Catan, our game nights (w/ Charlie Curtis Beard & Em Beihold), UPSAHL at School Night, promposals, public relationships, cold DM's, being a Chinese pop star, cultural context, AAPI racism, moving in with a partner, federal therapists, chicken wars, slime, idiosyncratic love, lucky Chinese names, Beijing cabs, Shanghai markets, massages, chaotic days, crochet, and the stories behind her songs "Late To The Party" & "Better People to Leave on Read" Discord: sleepinglionmusic.com/discord (Edited by Mason Maggio) 2022-06-151h 38

Talking LionChat #24: The Gambler’s Guide To The Music Industry (Part 3 - Value Systems)How do you determine what's valuable? Discord: sleepinglionmusic.com/discord 2022-06-0138 min

Talking LionEp. 73: AkintoyeIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Akintoye about anime merch, curated consumerism, superhero scrutiny, Twilight's redemption, Canadian history, narrative qualms, CCB live, afterparties, Tik Tok journeys, formal racism, phonathons, the bonnet, game theory, toxic masculinity, ass washing, experiential confidence, elder years, community programs, Pusha T vs. Drake, and his upcoming record. Edited by Mason Maggio Discord: sleepinglionmusic.com/discord 2022-05-261h 55

Talking LionChat #23: The Gambler’s Guide To The Music Industry (Part 2 - Choose Your Character)How to choose your role (and maybe start a band!) Discord: sleepinglionmusic.com/discord 2022-05-1838 min

Talking LionEp. 72: Isabel PlessIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Isabel Pless about Vermont stars, linguistics, the state of the world, lyrical Tik Toks, Trident Booksellers & Cafe, odds jobs, being a student, choosing a location, lost items, Legos, and her viral single "Bechdel Test". Edited by Mason Maggio Discord: sleepinglionmusic.com/discord 2022-05-1154 min

Talking LionChat #22: The Gambler’s Guide To The Music Industry (Part 1 - Introduction)An introduction to Nate's work-in-progress book: "The Gambler's Guide To The Music Industry" Discord: sleepinglionmusic.com/discord 2022-05-0430 min

Talking LionEp. 71: JORDYIn this season premiere, we talked to our new friend JORDY about college acapella, his collaborator round table (featuring friends of the pod EMME/Charlotte Sands), side hustles, rugs, Boston, hobby protection, being liked, cursing, audience awareness, "queer" artistry, empathy, anti-ASMR videos, penne a la vodka, dating advice, his upcoming tour, and the stories behind his recently released record "Mind Games". Edited by Mason Maggio Discord: sleepinglionmusic.com/discord 2022-04-271h 21

Talking LionChat #21: Casper4.6.22: Going through voice memos, demos, and stems we talk about our new single "Casper", the initial songwriting session with Emily Kocontes (EMME), the tumultuous true story behind the lyrics, Andrew Goldstein's (FRND) unintentionally inspiring Instagram story, Lido's early production advice, Ivan Jackson's (Brasstracks) horns (and social activism), the gang vocals recorded by the acapella group Under A Rest, the fake movie quote (by Souveneer & Bashlow), and the two year process it took to finish the song. Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion 2022-04-2044 min

Talking LionEp. 70: KiNG MALAIn this season's finale episode, we talked to our new friend KiNG MALA about her cool new hat, palm reading, embracing cringe, home schooling, LGBTQ+ in Texas, opera, comfort songs, zodiac signs, villains, session dynamics, emotional LLC's, group chats, genre fluidity, elevator pitches, digital hygiene, mental illness, stranger love, simple pleasures, Tik Tok tarot, The Hex Girls, her viral song "she calls me daddy", and her recently released single "golden retriever boy". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-11-212h 04

Talking LionChat #20: Best Friends8.16.21: In this chat, we talked to Nate's best friend David Leone about high school, naming the band, late night arguments, important phone calls, origin stories, feedback, eclecticism, pop development, storytelling, creative problem solving, variance, opportunity cost, and what it's like being an artist's best friend. NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-11-141h 22

Talking LionEp. 69: Jillian RossiIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Jillian Rossi about Berklee fame, spoiling songs, impressions, Maria Landi's carrots, editor brains, cider mills, bad boba, Boston restaurants, punctuality, her viral songs ("Fever Dream"/"Give Me A Reason"), and her recently released single "Hurt Again". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-11-0757 min

Talking LionEp. 68: Naethan ApolloIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Naethan Apollo about Iowa's Slipknot, gym rap, post-ironic sincerity, lyrical logic, the effort of effortlessness, eye color ballads, being Nates, putting numbers in perspective, the story behind the added "e", choosing what to focus on, desensitization, saving lives, narcissism, perpetual honeymoons, Dungeons & Dragons, derechos, his songs ("To You, From Me"/"Sightsee"), and his new single "Hungry World". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-10-311h 20

Talking LionEp. 67: Alexa CappelliIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Alexa Cappelli about ripple trends, cannolis, "sosh meed", Time Square billboards, online dating in the 90's, flower chains, musical theater, Tinder bonfires, The Voice, creating stakes, escapism paradoxes, the math of being yourself, materializing ideas, hope filters, Michael Scarn, trailer living, Mermaid Club, and her songs "Forbidden" & "SAY SOMETHING". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-10-241h 25

Talking LionEp. 66: Em BeiholdIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Em Beihold about fencing, moving goal posts, professional communicating, poker metaphors, fighting with Chopin, parental cameos, Regina Spektor, antidepressants, song responsibilities, existentialism, identity damage, celebrity relationships, the 46th minute, free advertising, getting lost in Mono Lake, embroidery, swashbuckling, quality decisions, and her song "Groundhog Day". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-10-171h 07

Talking LionEp. 65: Abhi The NomadIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Abhi The Nomad about caffeine addiction, risky naps, airplane movies, living nomadically, meeting his wife, Twitch gaming, losing well, jian bing, buses in Fiji, his collaborations (with Charlie Curtis Beard/Axel Mansor/johan lenox), getting hit by a taxi, and his recently released record "Abhi vs The Universe". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-10-101h 11

Talking LionEp. 64: Julia GarthaIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Julia Gartha about Toronto's quarantine, the entire history of Dobbs Ferry, portaging, musical identity, practicing piano, women in production, her Schitt's Creek cameo, free compliments, background work, storytelling, elder years, undistracted baking, game show taxes, deaf representation, soccer movies from the mid-2000's, her collaborations (w/ Ariza, lewloh, Nate Daviau), and her recent move to Los Angeles. NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-10-031h 22

Talking LionEp. 63: Leanna FirestoneIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Leanna Firestone about Tennessee traffic, theatre kids, studded belts, Jason Robert Brown, traumatic expression, avoiding triggers, writing her musical, cults, anime, emotional labor, accurate anxiety, two Christmases, intercepted sexts, karmic pillows, lying to our journals, pirate PR, her upcoming record, and the controversy surrounding her recently released single "Diet Coke". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-09-261h 22

Talking LionEp. 62: Lauren Spencer-SmithIn this episode, we talked to our friend Lauren Spencer-Smith about songfighting, Noah's injury, ruining relationships, writing "Best Friend" together (w/ Geena Fontanella), earned lyrics, Clinton Kane stanning, relatable Tik Toks, Canada, The Big One, tap water, restaurant chains, American Idol, industry plants, Omegle genitalia, fancy words, growing up with social media, land pirates, money shame, body positivity, and her recently released viral single "Back To Friends". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-09-191h 35

Talking LionChat #19: UpdatesRecorded 9.7.21: In this chat, following Noah's unfortunate Roman scooter accident, Nate hosts solo to provide updates on Sleeping Lion and past Talking Lion guests. NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-09-1232 min

Talking LionChat #18: Engelbergian Flavor (w/ Alex Engelberg)Recorded 7.24.21: In this chat, we talk to our friend Alex Engelberg about family collaborations, remixing Kira Kosarin, Tik Tok communities, Bill Wurtz's disciples, diagonal lyrics, software development, #HugOps, #ImACanOfSoup, airport jingles, homeschooling, personality tests, Charlie Curtis Beard, improv comedy musicals, lazy creativity, and Lightning Collabs. NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-09-051h 03

Talking LionEp. 61: Tim AtlasIn this episode, we talked to our friend Tim Atlas about moving across the country, east coast weather, peacoats, tour stories, dating cities, SXSW, manager appreciation, middle school dances, Super Smash Bros., time travel, Fortnite concerts, roller skating accidents, petting bees, and his recently released EP "QUOTA" NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-08-2956 min

Talking LionEp. 60: Griff ClawsonIn this episode, we talked to our friend Griff Clawson about birthday cakes, quarantine hobbies, strange loops, panic attacks, Bo Burnham's "Inside", genetic creativity, bad foods, healthy habits, lyrical pronunciation, Bon Iver, inspiration, olive cravings, moist gutters, his recently released songs ("Leave Me Low" w/ Devault & "Beautiful" w/ Deepend), and his upcoming single "Haircut". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-08-151h 17

Talking LionEp. 59: London MarsIn this episode, we talked to our good friend London Mars about painting, couches, Oklahoma, midnight cafes, our unreleased songs, writing camps, jealousy, nostalgia, first-time listening, life plans, cryopreservation, time traveling kids, and her upcoming record (including the single "Fool For You"). NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Podcast Awards: https://www.podcastawards.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-08-081h 19

Talking LionEp. 58: FlatsoundIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Flatsound about podcast hosting (and his show "all the space in between"), assembling a crew, making money, esoterica, cycling, juggalos, apocalyptic iced tea economies, bird names, fan boundaries, ambient tracks, long careers, naming songs, streaming royalties, giving advice, hacky sack, agoraphobia, and his recently released record "Somewhere in the Distance, Somewhere Towards the Mountains". Positive Images: https://www.posimages.org/donate/ NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Podcast Awards: https://www.podcastawards.com/ Discord: https://www...2021-08-012h 24

Talking LionEp. 57: Ashlynn MaliaIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Ashlynn Malia about performance feedback, dance community, Kidz Bop, unreleased songs from our first sessions together, Arkansas Walmarts, growing up with social media, meeting her producers (Andrew Weitz & Koby Berman), perfect pitch, Mattress Car, waffle breakfasts, patience, tarot, perspective (how to write hurt/edit healed), Midnight Singing, and her debut EP "rather be alone". NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Podcast Awards: https://www.podcastawards.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: https://www.sleepinglionmusic.com/stor 2021-07-251h 26

Talking LionEp. 56: The Bad DreamersIn this episode, we talked to our friend David Schuler of The Bad Dreamers about becoming an Angelino, opening for Transviolet, touring with The Sunstreak, Billy Mann's mentoring, working on songs for P!NK & John Legend, Grammy nominations, filmmaking, creative problem solving, playlisting, sobriety, grief, treasure hunting, horror movies, co-writing songs for the upcoming animated show Do Re & Mi (starring Kristen Bell & Fred Armisen), and his recently released record "Space and Time" NooWave: https://www.noowave.co/ The Truffleist: https://www.truffleist.com/ Podcast Awards: https://www.podcastawards.com/ Discord: https://www.discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: https://www...2021-07-181h 34

Talking LionEp. 55: Charlie Curtis-BeardIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Charlie Curtis Beard about Tik Tok communities, gauging progress, Alex Engelberg, growing up in Nebraska, slam poetry, Chicago rap, publicly growing, monetizing passions, Steven Universe, the origin of his "Oh My" tag, winning sad alex's remix contest for "i'm glad that you found someone (feat. gnash)", and his recently released EP "Rain In Pasadena". Discord: discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-07-111h 45

Talking LionEp. 54: Austin P. McKenzieIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Austin P. McKenzie about religion, vices, fluid identities, coming out, Deaf West's Spring Awakening, sign names, election days, Dungeons & Dragons, child stars, dating Kevin McHale, summer camp, a wild accident in Big Bear, and his new single "Summer of Love". Discord: discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-06-271h 19

Talking LionEp. 53: Charlotte SandsIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Charlotte Sands (for the second time) about avoiding tornadoes, Dollywood, pop punk's reemergence, Emilia Ali's musical parents, low pressure vocal tracking, over-assuming, redefining masculinity, street teams, strange dreams, and her recently released EP "Special" (featuring the single "Dress"). Discord: discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-06-201h 35

Talking LionEp. 52: Dillan WitherowIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Dillan Witherow about Washington, his old band, producing his friends (like Lizzy McAlpine/Laufey), lo-fi beats, poverty, Alaskan log trucks, great musicians (like Ariel Shrum/Nicholas Veinoglou/Bad Snacks), good listening, the chip on our shoulders, analog gear, label pirates, meeting Bon Iver, beer can shakers, his new project Glassell (with Josh Jacobson), and his recently released record "Before Sunrise". Discord: discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-06-131h 39

Talking LionEp. 51: Stela ColeIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Stela Cole about computer souls, fork history, perfect pitch, Autotune, stage names, Atlanta, soccer, DJ features, dreams, Tik Tok nursery rhymes, fashion, the Succession theme, wake board accidents, and her recently released EP "Woman of the Hour" (all prior to her single "I Shot Cupid" going viral on Tik Tok). Discord: discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-06-061h 39

Talking LionEp. 50: J. MayaIn this episode, we talked to our new friend J. Maya about Greek mythology, wordy lyricism, Harvard, cultural pressure, instincts, art inspiring art, Genius videos, theory of language, jazz violin, international pun championships, poetry sleeves, and her debut single "Achilles Heel". Discord: discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-05-301h 50

Talking LionEp. 49: MichiganderIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Michigander about pirate radio, plants, Michigan, high school bands, dumb jetlag, airplanes, getting to know someone, Bernie Sanders, the great state of Michigan, and his recently released EP "Everything Will Be Ok Eventually". Discord: discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-05-2355 min

Talking LionEp. 48: emlynIn this episode, we talked to our good friend emlyn about quarantine pods, adaptation, collaborating with Hailey Knox, music cities, daunting hypothetical celebrity encounters, finding her voice as an artist, lying for a truth, her dog (Banana), and her upcoming EP. Discord: discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-05-161h 13

Talking LionEp. 47: Jades GoudreaultIn this episode, we talked to our friend Jades Goudreault about Montreal bagels, her nomadic childhood, Hotel Cafe, aliens, meeting her producer (Pierre Blondo), driving out to LA, insomnia, bass lines, goal journaling, and her recently release EP "Motel 6". Discord: discord.com/invite/3EbvrZReVX Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-05-091h 23

Talking LionChat #17: Summerland (w/ Conner Rush of Fyre Games)Recorded 11.11.20: In this chat, we talk to Conner Rush, the founder of Fyre Games, about his new video game (Summerland), how sound design can tell a story, and what happens when we die. Play Summerland for free on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1444110/Summerland/ Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion Text us: 914-226-4772 Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2021-02-2850 min

Talking LionEp. 46: ROSIEIn this season's finale episode, we talked to our new friend ROSIE about this crazy year, Tik Tok, songs ruined by exes, multi-faceted creativity, music as a primitive survival instinct, authenticity, inconvenient inspiration, and the story behind her viral new single "Never the 1". 2020-11-2245 min

Talking LionChat #16: Jacob Does Drums (w/ Jacob Harelick)Recorded 9.5.20: In this chat, we talk to our drummer, Jacob Harelick, about professional Simon Says, Westchester Judaism, our "tour", love squares, his various early bands (Walking Is Like Running, Arthur The Pleasure, Soul Candy), being a Ripe/Lawrence fanboy, niches, reaching out, terrible shows, fracturing his heels, and the various artists he drums for (including salem ilese, Sophia Gripari, OSTON, London Mars, Jake Bennet, Rozie Baker, Julia Gartha, and us). Text us: 914-226-4772 Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion 2020-11-1551 min

Talking LionEp. 45: Emilia AliIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Emilia Ali about healthy rescheduling, getting to know Boston, her mother's music, touring from the womb, contact typos, PornHub drums, Berklee, being typecast as a vocalist, learning how to collaborate (and her work with Val of Fiji Blue & dwilly), relationship baggage (and how to express it), kidneys dating gallbladders, day planning, pirate ancestors, being nice to yourself, Nick Smith's cover of "Loved the ocean", and the stories behind the songs she worked on with Noah ("Beautiful", "Loved the ocean"). Text us: 914-226-4772 Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store 2020-11-011h 36

Talking LionEp. 44: Neon DreamsIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Frank Kadillac of Neon Dreams about moving around Canada, gaining empathy, getting raided by a SWAT team, meeting Waka Flocka, racism, Black Lives Matter, time traveling, weirdos at parties, quality gaps, self care, boxing, The Fray B-sides, and stories behind his upcoming record "The Happiness of Tomorrow" Text us: 914-226-4772 Shirts: sleepinglionmusic.com/store Patreon: patreon.com/talkinglion 2020-10-251h 12

Talking LionEp. 43: Miranda GloryIn this episode, we talked to our college friend Miranda Glory about The Bachelor, NYC open mics, Berklee, pizza debts, EDM features, Songland, phone backgrounds, songwriting intuition, performing with a broken toe, astrology, limerence, and the stories behind her songs ("Take"/"Lost Cause"). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-10-181h 10

Talking LionEp. 42: Molly MooreIn this episode, we talked to our friend Molly Moore (with a cameo from her dog, Atlas) about transformation, Zoom sessions, growing up in the suburbs of New York, handling breakups, couch karma, learning the bass, "friendship freckles", world hunger, and her new single "Handsomer" (w/ Maty Noyes). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-10-111h 05

Talking LionEp. 41: R.LUM.RIn this episode, we talked to our friend R.LUM.R about puns, video games, voice acting, anime, comedians, the genius of Bill Wurtz, great lyrics, getting starstruck, the day we met in Nashville, looking back at songs, lightning in a bottle, his song with Brasstracks ("I'm Alright"), slam poetry, the pop merits of Coheed & Cambria, living day-by-day, and his debut album "Surfacing". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-10-042h 17

Talking LionEp. 40: ArizaIn this episode, we talked to our college friend Ariza about foiling our plans for anonymity, receiving feedback, collaborative chemistry, finding value, growing up in Columbia, IB classes, Abbey Road, his hand injury, forming a duo with Miette Hope (The Natural Synthetic), and his prolific collaborations (including working with Ian Kirkpatrick on songs for Julia Michaels & Dua Lipa). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-09-271h 30

Talking LionEp. 39: Vancouver Sleep ClinicIn this episode, we talked to our friend Tim Bettinson of Vancouver Sleep Clinic about high school bands in Brisbane, improv comedy, FIFA video games, finding his falsetto, Triple J, live shows (including the time we opened for him in Boston), the Twilight soundtrack, cover art, surviving LA, hymns, collaborations (w/ THEY/OTR/Shallou), quarantine beards, stage injuries, pirating music, and the stories behind his records ("Winter"/"Revival"/"Therapy"/"Onwards To Zion"). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-09-201h 26

Talking LionChat #15: Lonely in LA (w/ Sophia Gripari)Recorded 8.17.20: We talked with our friend/collaborator Sophia Gripari about what it means to be "Lonely In LA" (which is also the name of our new song that's out now!) Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-09-0632 min

Talking LionEp. 38: Sophia GripariIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Sophia Gripari about trouble sleeping, making music as a kid, our shared drummer (Jacob Harelick), going to "Hogwarts", Berklee, "enjoyment insurance", great teachers, dancing on Wednesdays, hosting a songwriting camp in Joshua Tree, Shania Twain karaoke, our upcoming collaboration "Lonely In LA" (out 9.3.20), and the stories behind her songs ("Lesson Learned" / "Clear To Me" / "Hate You But I Don't" / "Lie To Me"). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-08-301h 16

Talking LionEp. 37: Fiji BlueIn this episode, we talked to our good friends in Fiji Blue about our time in college together, New Years Eve, Arizona hockey, inspirational teachers, coincidental connections, being in a duo, reference tracks, new quarantine hobbies, producers who can cook, Fiji water, pirate chefs, and the stories behind their songs ("Space Makes Me Sad" / "Home" / "Numb" / "Butterflies" / "I Should've Told You"). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-08-231h 20

Talking LionChat #14: Different PlansGoing through voice memos, demos, stems, and a chat with Ashlynn Malia, we talked about the unexpected creation of our new EP “Different Plans”. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-08-161h 18

Talking LionEp. 36: Kira KosarinIn this episode, we talked to our close friend (and "quaranteam" member) Kira Kosarin about singing with her parents, enjoying little victories, creating DIY music videos, Broadway behind the scenes, The Thundermans, what it means to be an artist, roller skating, achieving dreams too early, going "Off Brand", and the stories behind the songs on her recently released EP "Songbird". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-08-022h 06

Talking LionChat #13: We're FineRecorded 7.15.20: Going through voice memos, demos, and stems we talked about our new single "We're Fine" and the 5-year journey it took to complete. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-07-2644 min

Talking LionEp. 35: Dylan DunlapIn this episode, we talked to our college friend Dylan Dunlap about our time together in Boston, Allston basement shows, how to write about tough subjects, busking, his songs ("LiarLover"/"Face Value"), half measures, watching movies alone, his rising single "If That's Alright", mental health, autism, breakfast burritos, childhood injuries, and the story of how he met his girlfriend (Marissa) which inspired his most recent single, "Who Would've Thought". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-07-191h 10

Talking LionChat #12: Eggs Benedict & Emotional Repression (w/ Max Chester)Recorded 7.8.20: In this chat, we're joined by our friend Max Chester to talk about college auditions, math theorems, left-handed polar bears, bad puns, friend-families, rough breakfasts, anxiety dreams, stuffed animals, bravery, Eurovision, broken phones, fireworks, chess stalemates, external support, crafting a narrative, finishing our EP ("Different Plans"), and a surprise outro (that may or may not include Play-Doh). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-07-151h 04

Talking LionEp. 34: ella janeIn this episode, we talked to our new friend ella jane about Tik Tok, oat milk, coincidentally growing up in the same hometown, Instagram covers, generation gaps, high school bands, Dad bands, privacy, graduation, pencil injuries, her upcoming Gatsby-inspired song "nothing else i could do", her three-legged golden-doodle, and the story behind her viral debut single "The City". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-07-121h 09

Talking LionChat #11: Personal QuestionRecorded 7.3.20: In this chat, we talk about Mercedes Benz's in Zimbabwe, Guitar Hero, past conflicts, embarrassing childhood crushes, eisoptrophobia, unintentional success, poetry prompts, unexpected similarities in movies (feat. a Campbellian analysis of the Frozen I & Frozen II), hiking, endoscopy semantics, and our new segment: "Can I Ask You A Personal Question?". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-07-0851 min

Talking LionChat #10: Tendencies (w/ Casey Cook)Recorded 6.24.20: Going through early demos, we talked with our friend & co-writer, Casey Cook, about our first session together and the stories behind our new single, "Tendencies" (w/ Transviolet). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-07-0536 min

Talking LionEp. 33: StephenIn this episode, we met Stephen and talked about early music memories, his first song ("Bullet Train"), executing good ideas, "front porching", the inspiration (and drama) behind his "Crossfire" trilogy, the existential crisis at the heart of his record "Sincerely", acid trips, boredom, his experience with Lyme disease, collaborating with Pell ("In The Morning"), playing Super Smash Bros. with Grey (and writing "These Roots"), his upcoming album "Akrasia", and how a video game addiction (to Overwatch) inspired his recent single, "Tracer". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-06-281h 07

Talking LionChat #9: Father's Day (w/ Russell Goldman)Recorded 6.21.20: In this chat, we talk with our filmmaker friend Russell Goldman about TV reviews, intimidatingly good ideas, industrial musicals, the first film we worked on together ("Alpacaland"), our fathers, shrimp tails, "Better Call Saul", Spike Lee joints, the history of "Atlantis" (the movie), Disney, "The Last of Us Part II", Phoebe Bridgers's new album "Punisher", mental health, his film "No Comment", and the process of working together on his upcoming film "I Make Good Sounds At Parties" through the quarantine. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-06-2459 min

Talking LionEp. 32: Lizzy McAlpineIn this episode, we met Lizzy McAlpine and talked about high school bands, going to Berklee (and what classes have been like during quarantine), theaters/musicals, solo songwriting, flower tattoos, parrot names, screenwriting, and the stories behind her songs ("apple pie"/"to the mountains"/"mean something"). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-06-2143 min

Talking LionChat #8: We're All In This TogetherRecorded 6.14.20: In this chat, we talk about politics/current events, things we still haven't found the time to do during quarantine, exercise, screenwriting, de-cluttering, trouble sleeping, Avatar: The Last Airbender, and High School Musical. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-06-1731 min

Talking LionChat #7: Balance (w/ Miette Hope)Recorded 5.15.20: Going through voice memos & demos, we talked with our friend Miette Hope about the process for the new single we released together, "Balance". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-06-1452 min

Talking LionEp. 31: Miette HopeIn this episode, we talked to our longtime friend Miette Hope about playing the Troubadour, growing up in Colorado, our DIY tour together (including the awful night we had in Ohio), meeting before college, performing with Maddie Jay/Auva, her first singles ("Spring"/"My Love"), moving to Brooklyn, working with Ariza, empathy, adrenaline, losing her father, and her recently released concept EP (and video) "Pendulum". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-05-311h 17

Talking LionChat 6: This SucksRecorded 5.20.20: In this chat, we talk about where songs start, potatoes, Guitar Hero/Rock Band, music supervision in the mid-2000's, indie films, white collar crime, hiking, Noah's spontaneous new song "2 not b alone", grocery shopping, vertigo, cookies, cooking, old friends, new shirts, and the importance of expressing how much this sucks! Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-05-2750 min

Talking LionEp. 30: David ArchuletaIn this episode, we talked to David Archuleta about Nashville, Les Miserables, growing up in Utah, his time on American Idol, set teachers, fan mail, signing to a major label, releasing "Crush", Billboard charts, TV cameos, his mission trip to Chile, Joy Williams (of The Civil Wars), writing teams, his recent single "Just Breathe", and the therapy sessions that inspired his upcoming record "Therapy Sessions". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-05-241h 10

Talking LionChat #5: MuchnessRecorded 5.13.20: In this chat, we talk about burgers, our theme song, small business aids (SBA/PPP), Logic updates (10.5), copyright traps, Unreal Engine 5, sit-com floorplans, dented fenders, edibles, roadtrips, exploring LA, and our new challenges. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-05-2046 min

Talking LionEp. 29: Salem IleseIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Salem Ilese about summer camp, music theory, our adventures in San Francisco, Glee, penguins, our first sessions together ("Impatient" with Noah/"Splinter" with Nate), her EP "757" (in collaboration with Noah McGuire & Bendik Moller), her recent single "Roses To His Ex", befriending exes, song concepts, Area 51, and her upcoming single "Mad At Disney". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-05-171h 24

Talking LionChat #4: New Yorkers & RomansRecorded 5.6.20: In our fourth chat, we talk about the vibes of different cities, writer's block, starting as a duo, quality vs. marketing, Star Wars, real-world locations in video games, "Dave" (on FXX), finishing songs, cover art, and our recent brush with Tik Tok fame. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-05-1336 min

Talking LionEp. 28: Axel MansoorIn this episode, we talked to our longtime friend Axel Mansoor about singing shows, stomach aches, finding a community, his first single "Wasted My Love" (and our remix of the song), his song "Talk To Me" (and the Snapchat music video), his relationship to his brother, Shrek, bullying, sailing, his episode of NBC's "Songland" (with H.E.R), and his upcoming recording "Baggage". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-05-101h 38

Talking LionChat #3: CompoundwordsRecorded 4.29.20: In our third chat, we talk about Philly bands, jazz piano, the ET video game, Phoebe Waller Bridge, compound words, motherly criticism, the release of "No Comment" (a short film Nate sound designed), broken glasses, e-sports, Tik Tok, hiking, and the confusing nature of the word "podcast". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-05-0646 min

Talking LionEp. 27: Chaz CardiganIn this episode, we talked to our friend Chaz Cardigan about the effects of quarantine, growing up in Kentucky, multi-faceted creative tendencies, his deal with Capitol & Bad Robot (JJ Abram's label), opening for Julia Michaels, the creation of his song "As I'll Ever Be" (featured on the Netflix film "To All The Boys: P.S. I Still Love You"), tattoos, therapy, and his new single "SOS". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-05-031h 02

Talking LionEp. 26: Matthew ChaimIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Matthew Chaim about scary childhood movies, improv comedy, his early rap project, meditation, silent retreats, driving cross-country, moving to LA, rough breakups, monks, and the creation of his EP "The Mathematics of Nature". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-04-261h 54

Talking LionChat #2: Don't Like Me (w/ Alex Koste & Alex Venegas)Recorded 3.28.20: Going through voice memos & track stems, we talked with our friends/collaborators Alex Koste (producer) & Alex Venegas (songwriter) about the creation of Sleeping Lion's new single "Don't Like Me". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-04-191h 20

Talking LionEp. 25: sad alexWe began our second season with our friend sad alex to talk about playing live, releasing demos (like her EP "songs you'll probably never hear"), her road to recovery following a serious knee injury, record deals, writing songs about relationships, and spaghetti. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-04-122h 01

Talking LionChat #1: Here GoesRecorded 3.16.20: In our first "Chats" episode, we talk through the early days of quarantine (due to COVID-19), ask each other the questions that will guide all future "Chats", and announce Talking Lion's new Patreon platform. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2020-04-0540 min

Talking LionEp. 24: LooteIn this year's final episode, we talked to our friends & the multi-platinum duo Loote about growing up on the east coast, viral videos, hydrating, High School Musical, meeting at Purchase College, the quality of hit songs, collaborating with Lauv on "No Promises" by Cheat Codes & Demi Lovato, and the stories behind the songs off their new EP "lost". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-11-242h 06

Talking LionEp. 23: Ariana and the RoseIn this episode, we talked to our new friend Ariana and the Rose about morality, friendship, writing in NYC/LA, living in London, women in music, discovering artists, her interactive concert, “Light & Space”, relationships, the music video for her song, “Night Owl”, and collaborating with RKCB on their song “Love You Lately”. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-11-101h 15

Talking LionEp. 22: Eighty NinetyIn this episode we talked to our new friends Eighty Ninety about being brothers, Disney films, concept albums, starting the band, Taylor Swift’s support for "Your Favorite Song", and the creation of their songs “Three Thirty”, “Dream” and “10k Summer Nights”. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-11-031h 34

Talking LionEp. 21: Jackie FosterIn this episode we talked to our longtime friend Jackie Foster about the shows we played together in Boston, her old band (Self Portraits), our graduation, branding/virality, numerology/love languages, her time on Season 14 of The Voice, coming back to reality after reality TV, the stories behind her songs "Time"/"Great Escape", and how we came together to work on her single "Poison". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-10-201h 46

Talking LionEp. 20: JUJIn this episode we talked to our new friend JUJ about growing up in Philadelphia as first generation American, Broadway musicals, serenity, Lyme disease, making friends in LA, and her recently released EP "JUJ, It's U" which includes her single "Mood" featuring Vic Mensa. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-10-131h 05

Talking LionEp. 19: EvangeliaIn this episode we talked to our good friend Evangelia about the music scene in NYC, childhood trips to Crete, hosting open mics at Rutgers University, teaching elementary school, collaborating with Christian Navarro (13 Reasons Why) on "Hello Again", the story behind our songs "Windowseat" & "Moments", and working with Stolar on her upcoming Greek-influenced songs. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-10-061h 06

Talking LionEp. 18: Kyan Palmer and nicopop.In this raucous episode, we talked with our friends Kyan Palmer & nicopop. about college, Kyan's ecology degree, nicopop.'s time in Louis Vivet, ASMR, dogs, fortune cookies, that time we wrote "Five Night Stand" together with Aire Atlantica, and the rollout of their upcoming collaborative album. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-09-2953 min

Talking LionEp. 17: MOONZzIn this episode, we talked to our friend MOONZz about dreams, Judaism, marriage, synch licensing, the hazards of comparison, her song "Navigator", and her upcoming releases. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-09-2258 min

Talking LionEp. 16: Laoise and Seán BehanIn this episode, we talked remotely with our longtime friends in Ireland, Laoise & Seán Behan about Irish culture, rising Irish pop artists, their EP "Halfway" (including our remix of their song "YOU"), and their recently released EP "Mad" featuring the single "Again". Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-09-151h 27

Talking LionEp. 15: Johan LenoxIn this episode, we talked to our friend Johan Lenox about Amaro liqueurs, roller coasters, musicals, merging the classical & pop worlds (as he did with “Yeethoven”), his recently released album “everybody’s cool but me”, and his work with hip-hop legends including Mike Dean, No I.D., Mr Hudson, Travis Scott, Vic Mensa, Lil Nas X, and Kanye West. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-09-081h 34

Talking LionEp. 14: RipeIn this episode, we talked to our friend Robbie Wulfsohn from the band Ripe about hypothetical fire-rain, high school band names, forming Ripe, and their upcoming tour & releases. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-09-0153 min

Talking LionEp. 13: Bay LedgesIn this episode we talked to our friend Bay Ledges about his first EP, the importance of humor, New York City's historic Sidewalk Cafe, love, loss, and his upcoming tour. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-08-251h 25

Talking LionEp. 12: SMLEIn this episode we talked to the GRAMMY-nominated duo SMLE about video games, remixes, the Miami music scene, future bass, and what's driving their upcoming releases. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-08-1858 min

Talking LionEp. 11: Lizzy LandIn this episode, we talked to our good friend Lizzy Land about her first few years in LA, her recently released EP, “Intro Music Plays”, and the story of how we wrote her song "Losing My Head" together. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-08-111h 17

Talking LionEp. 10: Happy SometimesIn this episode, fueled by mimosas & Jaegermeister, we talked with our new friend Happy Sometimes about growing up in Texas, making the right the mistakes, the story behind her platinum single with DVBBS, “Parallel Lines”, and her upcoming single “Pooh Bear”. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-08-041h 16

Talking LionEp. 9: MothicaIn this episode, our friend Mothica came by from New York and talked about her exotic childhood pets in Oklahoma, her upcoming record in progress, what drives her creativity, and her recently released EP “Ashes” (including Sleeping Lion’s remix of her song “Burnout”). Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-07-281h 00

Talking LionEp. 8: FRNDIn this episode, we talked with multi-platinum songwriter/producer/artist Andrew Goldstein (aka FRND) about his recently released EP “Before U I Didn’t Exist”, his work with major artists (Lauv/Hot Chelle Rae/Linkin Park/blackbear), and his upcoming multi-media concept album. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-07-211h 50

Talking LionEp. 7: Flula BorgIn this episode, our friend Flula Borg stopped by to talk about his childhood in Germany, his viral videos & film roles (Pitch Perfect 2/Ralph Breaks The Internet), his friendship with Conan O’Brien, and his life as a rising DJ. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-07-1453 min

Talking LionEp. 6: VesperteenIn this episode, our friend Vesperteen stopped by before his tour with Great Good Fine Ok to talk about his start in music, his recent signing to the label KIDinaKORNER, and the story of how we wrote his song "Medicine" together. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-07-0757 min

Talking LionEp. 5: Cub SportIn this episode, we met Tim & Bolan from the Australian band, www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-06-3051 min

Talking LionEp. 4: YosteIn this episode, our friend Yoste stopped by (while on tour with Shallou) to talk about growing up in Australia, philosophies on culture, and his recently released EP, “try to be okay”. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-06-231h 13

Talking LionEp. 3: TransvioletIn our third episode, our friend Sarah McTaggart from Transviolet talked about the start & early days of the band, mental health, our collaboration for their song "Long Shot", and their upcoming album. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-06-161h 47

Talking LionEp. 2: PhangsIn the second episode, our friend Phangs stopped by during his tour with Nightly to talk about how he got his start in Nashville, his experiences with touring with Cardboard Kids/Relient K, his recent signing to the label KIDinaKORNER, and the story of how we eventually wrote his song "Good Now" together. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-06-091h 13

Talking LionEp. 1: ZealynIn our first episode, we had our friend Zealyn talk about her beginnings, her time on American Idol, and the path that led to her recently released EP, “A Weekend In Maine”. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-06-021h 28

Talking LionTalking Lion - TrailerTalking Lion is a weekly artist-to-artist interview podcast hosted by Nate Flaks & Noah Longworth McGuire of Sleeping Lion. As artists/songwriters/producers, they have worked with many incredible rising artists since starting Sleeping Lion. Whether at sessions, parties, or over cups of coffee, they’ve had countless conversations with artists in the middle of their musical journeys. Talking Lion is about hitting "record" on these conversations about what life’s been like & where it’s going. Subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/TalkingLion 2019-06-0101 min