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The Edu Salon
Episode 50: Deborah Netolicky and Mathew Irving in an ‘Edu Salon X EdLeaders’ collab
In this special 50th episode of The Edu Salon podcast, Deborah Netolicky hosts a collaboration between The Edu Salon and EdLeaders Australia podcasts. Mathew Irving co-host of EdLeaders, joins Deb in a broad ranging and candid conversation about school principalship, leadership, transitions, finding professional nourishment and sustaining wellbeing. Want to know more? - EdLeaders Australia podcast https://www.edleaders.com.au/podcast Join the conversation: - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
2025-07-06
49 min
Mornings with Graeme Goodings
Walford Principal Deborah Netolicky explains the affect going to school at three year old will have
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2025-06-06
04 min
The Edu Salon
Paul Teys on school leadership and being the principal
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Paul Teys about principalship and the realities of leading in a school. Paul spent 36 years in middle and executive leadership roles in Australian independent schools, including 24 years as Principal across diverse schools in three states. Paul now coaches and mentors school principals and works in executive leadership recruitment as an Associate of Slade Group. Paul is author of ‘Now You Are A Principal’ and ‘So You Want To Be A Principal’. Want to know more? - paulteys.com - https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/applied-school-leadership/id1688134224 - https://ambapress.com.au/products/so-you-want-to-be-a-principal - https...
2025-06-01
43 min
The Edu Salon
Fiona Longmuir on teacher workforce, workload and wellbeing
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Fiona Longmuir. Fiona is a Senior Lecturer in Educational Leadership in the Faculty of Education at Monash University. She is also co-leader of the Education Workforce for the Future Research Impact Lab. Her most recent projects have focused on examining working conditions for educators. In other research Fiona has investigated interactions of school and system leadership with student engagement and agency; the emotional labour of school leadership; leading schools through crises; and, leading for social cohesion and social justice. She publishes on topics of leading schools in complex contexts, teachers working conditions and teacher retention...
2025-05-04
40 min
The Edu Salon
Matthew Esterman on the possibilities of AI in education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Matthew Esterman about the role of AI in education, including its possibilities, limits, impact on student learning and potential to reduce teachers’ workloads. Matthew has held a number of teaching and leadership roles in schools, most recently as Director of Innovation and Partnerships at Our Lady of Mercy College Parramatta. He is currently Adjunct Fellow at Western Sydney University, and founder and director of The Next Word consultancy which focuses on training, support and strategy for schools and other organisations to take their use of AI to the next level. Want to know more? - https://ne...
2025-04-05
48 min
Afternoons with Stacey Lee
Afternoons with Stacey Lee - 31 March 2025
Deborah Netolicky, Election News Wrap, Andrea Michaels, Jessica Mauboy, Mike Smithson, Dr. Derek McNair, Afternoon Delight and Tim Ginever.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2025-03-31
1h 53
Afternoons with Stacey Lee
Big Jump In Number Of SA Principals Considering Quitting
Principal of Walford Anglican School for Girls DEBORAH NETOLICKY joins Stacey Lee. Listen live on the FIVEAA Player. Follow us on Facebook, X and Instagram. Subscribe on YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2025-03-31
08 min
Afternoons with Stacey Lee
Afternoons with Stacey Lee - 5 March 2025
Deborah Netolicky, Amelia Jarrett, Rob Simms, Bronte Manuel, Tara Moses, Richard Pascoe, Lauren De Cesare and Stephen Rowe.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2025-03-05
2h 09
Afternoons with Stacey Lee
Could flexible working arrangements be possible for teachers
Principal of Walford Anglican School for girls, Deborah Netolicky joined Stacey. Listen live on the FIVEAA Player. Follow us on Facebook, X and Instagram. Subscribe on YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2025-03-05
11 min
The Edu Salon
Kylie Bice on adjusting teaching for the learning of all students
Deborah Netolicky talks with Kylie Bice about how ‘differentiation’ means designing responsive teaching and learning to students’ diverse needs. Kylie (BA, DipEd, MEd) is an experienced and award-winning teacher and scholar, and now Director and Education Consultant with Growing Up Greatness. Kylie specialises in gifted education, differentiation, assessment, disability and educating diverse student groups. Kylie was previously the Senior Inclusive and Gifted Education Consultant at the Association of Independent Schools of WA (AISWA), and has many years of experience working with diverse students in government and non-government schools in Western Australia, including students with learning difficulties, disability, gifted and talented and tw...
2025-03-01
45 min
The Edu Salon
Karen Spiller on leadership and governance in schools
Deborah Netolicky talks with Karen Spiller OAM CF about leadership and governance in schools. For 23 years, Karen was Principal of two schools in Queensland: St Aidan’s Anglican Girls’ School and John Paul College. She has also been the Chair of the national bodies the Association of Heads of Independent Schools, Australia and the Alliance of Girls Schools, Australasia. Karen was a member of the Board of Independent Schools Australia and Yalari and was Chair of The Board of Independent Schools Queensland for six years. Karen was a member of the St Laurence’s College Board for five years and is now...
2025-02-01
44 min
Afternoons with Stacey Lee
Afternoons with Stacey Lee - 22 January 2025
Sally McKibbin, Tama Leaver, Sam Hayes, Deborah Netolicky, Richard Pascoe, Rachel Matthews and your calls. Listen live on the FIVEAA Player. Follow us on Facebook, X and Instagram. Subscribe on YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2025-01-22
2h 06
Afternoons with Stacey Lee
Looking at the school year ahead with expert and principal Dr Deborah Netolicky
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2025-01-22
13 min
The Edu Salon
Barbara Watterston on living and leading well
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Barbara Watterston about leading and leadership in education, including mentoring, coaching, professional companioning and sponsoring. Barb is CEO of the Australian Council for Educational Leaders (ACEL) and has held several school and system leadership positions across Australia. She is an Honorary Fellow of the University of Melbourne Faculty of Education and a National Fellow of ACEL. Her expertise is regularly sought out to contribute in an advisory capacity as a member of numerous university, departmental, school, and professional boards. She is author of the report 'Insights: Environmental Scan Principal Preparation Programs' and the award-winning book...
2024-11-30
50 min
The Edu Salon
Glenn Savage on the future of education policy and practice
Deborah Netolicky talks with Associate Professor Glenn Savage about education policy and practice, and the future of schooling. Glenn is a policy sociologist, leading researcher and public commentator on education policy and reform. He is Associate Professor of Education Futures in the Faculty of Education at the University of Melbourne and author of the book ‘The Quest for Revolution in Australian Schooling Policy’. Glenn has extensive large-scale research experience, including being awarded three Australian Research Council projects as Lead Investigator, including a current ARC Discovery Grant that is examining ways to improve collaboration and co-design between government agencies in the deve...
2024-11-02
46 min
The Edu Salon
Claire Golledge on leading culturally nourishing schooling
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Claire Golledge about school leadership, education research, aboriginal education and culturally nourishing schooling. Claire is a Lecturer in Education at the University of Sydney, the co-ordinator of - Secondary Human Society and its Environment Curriculum - in the Sydney School of Education and Social Work, and a Researcher for the Culturally Nourishing Schooling project. Prior to taking up her position at the University, Claire led pedagogy, teacher learning, and innovation at independent Sydney schools. Want to know more? - https://www.culturallynourishingschooling.org.au/ - https://doi.org/10.1007/s41297-024-00239-w - https://doi...
2024-09-29
44 min
The Edu Salon
Yong Zhao on all things education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Yong Zhao about teaching, curriculum, schooling, educational leadership, and schools within schools. Yong is a Foundation Distinguished Professor in the School of Education at the University of Kansas and a professor in Educational Leadership at the Melbourne Graduate School of Education in Australia. He previously served as the Presidential Chair, Associate Dean, and Director of the Institute for Global and Online Education in the College of Education, University of Oregon, where he was also a Professor in the Department of Educational Measurement, Policy, and Leadership. Prior to Oregon, Yong Zhao was University Distinguished Professor at...
2024-09-01
43 min
The Edu Salon
Fiona Hutton on education leader search, recruitment and support
Deborah Netolicky talks with Fiona Hutton about search, recruitment and support of educational leaders. Fiona is an educator, executive search professional and keynote speaker. She is the founding Director of Hutton Consulting Australia and a Victorian Branch executive member of the Australian Council of Educational Leaders. Her client portfolio includes leading schools in the Independent, Government and Catholic sectors in addition to education related organisations at a system level. Fiona is actively involved in developing leadership capacity at Senior and Executive levels through bespoke PD programs, individual career conversations, 360 degree reviews and constructive feedback from search processes. She was nominated...
2024-08-04
48 min
The Edu Salon
Jared Cooney Horvath on brain science and learning
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Jared Cooney Horvath about brain science, memory, learning, and the impact of technology on young people. Jared (PhD, MEd) is a neuroscientist, educator, and author of 'Stop Talking, Start Influencing: 12 Insights from Brain Science to Make Your Message Stick'. At the crossroads between the laboratory and the classroom, Jared spends most of his time working directly with schools or helping companies, schools and organisations to improve training, education, impact, and engagement. Want to know more? - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCypIIZtJ1JOJ8VdED2L360Q - https://www.amazon.com/Stop-Talking-Start-Influencing-Insights/dp/1925335909 Join the...
2024-07-07
45 min
The Edu Salon
Karen Edge on diversity, kindness and education workplaces
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Karen Edge about leadership, diversity, kindness and education workplaces. Karen is a Reader in Educational Leadership at University College London. Before joining UCL, Karen worked in senior advisory roles for the Ontario Minister of Education and the Centre for Educational Leadership at UC-Santa Barbara. She also worked as a Research Fellow at the World Bank in Washington DC. Karen leads the Global City Leaders Project working with 60+ Generation X school leaders in London, New York and Toronto to understand how their careers, leadership and future aspirations may influence future of urban and national education systems...
2024-06-02
46 min
The Art of Teaching
Dr Deborah Netolicky: How to listen, work-life integration, and transformational professional learning.
Today I have the great pleasure of sharing a recent conversation that I had with the brilliant Dr Deborah Netolicky. Deb is an Australian School Principal committed to building positive school cultures of trust, inclusivity, and excellence, through collective action that is strategically aligned and based on context, research, and innovation. Deb is an Adjunct Senior Fellow at the University of Adelaide and on the Editorial Board of the Journal of Professional Capital and Community. She is a fellow podcaster and is the host of The Edu Salon Podcats: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/t...
2024-05-05
55 min
The Edu Salon
Christine Grice on decentring leadership
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Christine Grice about decentring leadership, leading the child, and leading together. Christine a Senior Lecturer in Educational Leadership, and postgraduate coordinator of the Master of Education Programs at the University of Sydney. Christine’s research is centred in the practices of educational leadership with a focus on leading pedagogy in schools and systems. Christine is passionate about supporting educators to connect theory, philosophy, and practice for purposeful leading in her teaching, research, and service to the education community. She works with school and system leaders at all levels on research and professional learning partnerships that se...
2024-05-05
41 min
The Edu Salon
Simon Breakspear on implementing change
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Simon Breakspear about implementing change in schools and education systems. Simon is a researcher, advisor and speaker on educational leadership, policy and change. He develops frameworks and tools that make evidence-based ideas actionable and easy to understand. Over the last decade his capability building work has given him the opportunity to work with over 100,000 educators across more than 10 countries. Simon is an Adjunct Senior Lecturer in the School of Education at UNSW. He serves as an advisor to the NSW Department of Education and sits on an expert steering committee for the Australia Institute for...
2024-04-07
49 min
The Edu Salon
Jill Berry on headship and leading in schools
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Jill Berry about leading in schools, including principalship and ‘making the leap’ to being a school head. Jill taught for thirty years in six different schools, both state and independent, and was a head for the last ten years of her time in schools. She has also taught at GCSE and A-Level in the evenings for several years. Since then, Jill completed a doctorate that explored the transition into headship, wrote a book about it, ‘Making The Leap: Moving from Deputy to Head’, and carried out an extensive range of leadership development work. She has also giv...
2024-03-02
48 min
The Edu Salon
Rachel Lofthouse on mentoring and coaching in education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Rachel Lofthouse about mentoring and coaching in education. Rachel is Professor of Teacher Education in the Carnegie School of Education at Leeds Beckett University, and the Director of CollectiveED: The Centre for Mentoring, Coaching and Professional Learning. She has been an educator for more than 30 years, including as a Geography teacher, a teacher educator, and a researcher. Her research focuses on professional learning, especially how teachers learn and how they can be supported to put that learning into practice. Rachel works with student teachers and their school-based mentors, teacher coaches, postgraduate students and school leaders...
2024-02-03
44 min
The Edu Salon
Pat Thomson on school leadership and arts-rich education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Pat Thomson about school leadership and arts-rich education. Pat is a Professor of Education at the University of Nottingham; the University of South Australia, and Deakin University. She is on a number of editorial boards, is Convenor of the Centre for Research in Arts, Creativity and Literacy, and is author of the academic writing blog ‘patter’ which is archived by the British Library and followed by academics around the world. Prior to taking up her role as an academic in the UK, Pat was principal of Paralowie School for eleven years, deputy principal at The Park...
2023-12-16
43 min
The Edu Salon
Pasi Sahlberg on reinventing schooling
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Pasi Sahlberg about reinventing schooling and from where we might draw our inspiration to make schooling better for students. Pasi is a Finnish educator and author whose work spans teaching, teacher education, policy making and advising schools and education system leaders around the world. He served as a senior education specialist at the World Bank in Washington DC, lead education specialist at the European Training Foundation in Italy, director general at the Finland’s Ministry of Education and Culture, and visiting professor of Practice at Harvard University. He is a recipient of a huge array of...
2023-11-11
45 min
The Edu Salon
Amy Green on individual and collective wellbeing
Deborah Netolicky talks with Amy Green about wellbeing of individuals and in workplaces, especially for staff in schools. Amy is a past teacher and school leader, and a speaker, facilitator, coach and author of ‘Teacher Wellbeing: A real conversation for teachers and leaders’. As founder of The Wellness Strategy--with a background in teaching, leadership, human behaviour and positive psychology--Amy's work is focused on improving workplace culture and wellbeing in schools and organisations. Want to know more? - https://www.thewellnessstrategy.com.au/ - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amygreen/ Join the conversation on social media. - Amy: @_thewellnessstrategy on Instagram. - De...
2023-10-15
44 min
The Edu Salon
Lauren Sayer on curriculum, innovation and neurodivergence
Deborah Netolicky talks with Lauren Sayer about innovation, curriculum, teaching, neurodivergence and change. Lauren is currently Director of Curriculum at the Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority (VCAA). Previously, she served as the Executive Director of Research and Innovation at Melbourne Girls Grammar, and founded the Melbourne Girls Grammar Institute, a global educational community hub dedicated to innovation and leadership in education practices. In addition to her school leadership roles, Lauren was previously Head of Teaching and Learning at the Royal Children's Hospital Education Institute where she championed the cause for world-class pedagogy and continuous learning for those students who could...
2023-09-16
45 min
The Edu Salon
Jim Knight on humanising conversations and instructional coaching
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Jim Knight about instructional coaching, trust, credibility, humility and mutually humanising conversations. Jim is Founder and Senior Partner of Instructional Coaching Group (ICG), a research associate at the University of Kansas Center for Research on Learning. He has spent more than two decades studying professional learning and instructional coaching. Jim earned his PhD in Education from the University of Kansas and has won several university teaching, innovation, and service awards. The pioneering work Jim and his colleagues have conducted has led to many innovations that are now central to professional development in schools. Jim’s bo...
2023-08-20
45 min
The Edu Salon
Kevin Richardson on principalship and students as change makers
Deborah Netolicky talks with Kevin Richardson about the joys of principalship, school change, and engaging students as change makers in schools built for the future. Kevin has been a Principal at Immanuel College since 2002. Prior to this he helped established the internationally acclaimed Technology School of the Future and held senior executive positions in the WA, NSW, and SA Education Departments. Kevin is a highly versatile educator with leadership and management expertise across a broad range of domains including governance, education, technology, and consultancy; in private, public and not for profit sectors. Kevin has been a leader nation-wide with respect...
2023-07-09
45 min
The Edu Salon
Helen Kelly on educator wellbeing and burnout
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Helen Kelly about educator wellbeing and burnout. Helen is a school wellbeing expert, author, consultant, speaker and researcher. She led international schools in Asia and Europe, until she retired from her work as a principal in 2020. She has been conducting research in the field of educator wellbeing for almost a decade. Prior to becoming an educator, she spent ten years as a lawyer in the field of workplace health and safety. Helen draws upon her knowledge of evidenced-based practices, her understanding of the needs of school communities and her legal background to deliver approaches that...
2023-06-04
44 min
The Edu Salon
Chris Munro on coaching, culture and conversation
Deborah Netolicky talks with Chris Munro about coaching, mentoring and cultures of intentional professional conversation. Chris is an educator first and foremost, with extensive experience in supporting and leading the development of teachers and school leaders drawn from more than 30 years in schools in Australia and Scotland, in Initial Teacher Education, and as a coach and facilitator. Chris followed his passion by joining Growth Coaching International (GCI) in 2017 and he now has the privilege of leading this world-class organisation as it works to fulfil its purpose: to enhance the quality of conversations in education communities so that learners, educators and...
2023-05-07
46 min
The Edu Salon
Summer Howarth on designing learning, partnering with students, and trusting teachers
Deborah Netolicky talks with Summer Howarth about learning design, teaching, student voice, and really partnering with young people in the work of education. Summer spends her days championing teachers and positioning students as partners in learning. She is a key figure behind some of Australia’s most forward-thinking learning and innovation strategies for education systems including positioning students as decision makers in their learning with the Northern Territory Learning Commission, the NSW DOVES the NT Youth Voice Peak Group. She has delivered projects and professional development alongside teams including ACER, ACEL, CSE, The Global Education Taskforce on the UNSDGs, IDEO’s Te...
2023-04-02
41 min
The Edu Salon
Michael Fullan on education leadership, equity, collaboration, and change
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Michael Fullan about what does and should drive education, what educators might consider in their work, and the ways in which practitioners can influence systems. Michael is the Global Leadership Director of New Pedagogies for Deep Learning, and a worldwide authority on education reform. He is former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, of the University of Toronto, and received the Order of Canada in 2012. He is author of more than 40 books and holds honorary doctorates from several universities in North America and abroad. His books include ‘Spirit Work and the Science of...
2022-12-10
44 min
The Edu Salon
Rania Sawalhi on leadership and humanity in education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Rania Sawalhi about pracademia, education in Qatar, Islamic-based leadership, women in educational leadership, psychological support for students, and humanity in education. Rania has more than 20 years of experience in K-12 and higher education, and has worked as teacher, vice principal, principal of an international school, strategic manager, researcher, and lecturer. Rania has won several awards such as ICSEI/JPCC 2020 Innovation Award for designing a female empowerment program which included career readiness and social innovation, and she was a Study UK alumni awards finalist for social impact. In 2019, Rania completed her PhD Educational Leadership from University...
2022-11-26
44 min
The Edu Salon
Alma Harris on education leadership, networks and policy
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Alma Harris about leadership, networks, the teaching profession, and education policy. Alma is a Professor Emeritus at Swansea University, specialising in Education Policy and School Improvement. She has held Professorial posts at the University of Warwick, University College London, the University of Malaya, and the University of Bath. In 2009-2012, she was appointed to the Welsh Government as a senior policy adviser to assist with the process of system-wide reform. Since 2009, she has worked for the World Bank contributing to development and research programs aimed at supporting schools in challenging contexts in Russia. She is...
2022-11-12
45 min
The Edu Salon
Andy Hargreaves on identity, influence and research in education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Andy Hargreaves about identity, wellbeing, student engagement, education research, and influence in education. Andy is Director of Chenine (Change, Engagement and Innovation in Education) at the University of Ottawa, Emeritus Professor at Boston College, and Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts. He is a member of the National Academy of Education, former President of the International Congress of School Effectiveness and Improvement, former Adviser in Education to the Premier of Ontario, and current adviser to the First Minister of Scotland. He has published more than 30 books and has 8 Outstanding Writing Awards. He has been...
2022-10-30
43 min
The Edu Salon
Beth Blackwood on leading schools in complex times
Deborah Netolicky talks with Beth Blackwood AM about leading schools, principalship, and the complexity of education. Beth is the CEO of AHISA (the Association of Heads of Independent Schools of Australia) and serves on the Boards of AITSL (the Australian Institute for Teaching, Learning and School Leadership) and the Australian Council on Children and the Media. She has been a teacher, deputy principal, and principal of various schools throughout Australia, as well as President and Executive Board member of the Alliance of All Girls’ Schools Australasia. In 2022 Beth was recognised in the Queen’s Birthday Honours list “for significant service to sec...
2022-10-16
43 min
The Edu Salon
Jen Buchanan on global, human-centred, future-focused education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Jen Buchanan about education that is global, future-focused and human-centred. Jen is a teacher, leader and educator with a vision to make schools better, and a strong advocate for student agency. She has worked in progressive schools around the world including Green School (Bali), Think Global School (USA), and more recently Preshil School in Melbourne. Currently a convenor with Future Schools, Jen previously completed her Master of Education at the University of Melbourne, with her field of research looking at increased opportunities for students to engage in states of flow. Want to know more? - Jen’s...
2022-10-02
42 min
The Edu Salon
Cameron Paterson on learning, teaching, and schooling
Deborah Netolicky talks with Cameron Paterson about learning, thinking, teaching, and schooling. Cameron is Director of Learning at Wesley College, Melbourne. Prior to this he was the Director of Learning and Teaching at Shore School, Sydney. Outside school, he works with Harvard’s Project Zero as an online course instructor and as part of the faculty at the annual Project Zero Classroom. He has taught in the Harvard teacher education program and worked for Harvard’s Principal’s Center. His awards include the Dr Paul Brock Medal from the Australian College of Educators, a Churchill Fellowship, the 21st Century International Global...
2022-09-18
45 min
The Edu Salon
Kevin Lowe on sustainable improvement in Aboriginal education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Associate Professor Kevin Lowe about Aboriginal education research and practice in Australia, including the role and power of curriculum, the ‘making of teachers’, the importance of listening to the voices of Indigenous people and engaging community. Kevin is a Gubbi Gubbi man from southeast Queensland. He is a Scientia Associate Professor and Indigenous Fellow at the University of New South Wales, with experience in education as a teacher, administrator and lecturer. He has expertise in working with Aboriginal community organisations on establishing Aboriginal language policy and school curriculum implementation. Recently Kevin has worked with colleagues to revi...
2022-09-04
46 min
The Edu Salon
Ellie Drago-Severson on adult learning and leading adult learners
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Ellie Drago-Severson about adult learning and leading adult learners, through the lens of developmental psychology. Ellie is Professor of Education Leadership, and Adult Learning and Leadership, at Teachers College, Columbia University. A developmental psychologist, Ellie teaches, conducts research, and consults to schools and districts, school and district leaders, teacher leaders, coaches. and organizations on: professional and personal growth and learning; leadership that supports principal, teacher, school, and leadership development; and coaching and mentoring in K–12 schools, university settings, and other educational contexts domestically and internationally. She is author of several prizewinning, bestselling books, including ‘Helping Teac...
2022-08-21
42 min
The Edu Salon
Jiang Xueqin on teaching for creativity, agency, and empowerment
Deborah Netolicky talks with Jiang Xueqin about creativity, agency, and empowerment in the context of China’s education system. Jiang is a Beijing-based school leader, educator, and writer who for the past fifteen years has promoted the teaching of creativity in the Chinese public school system. He has written two books about his work: ‘Creative China’ (2014) and ‘Schools for the Soul’ (2021). Jiang is a judge for the Global Teacher Prize, the Global Student Prize, and the World's Best School Prizes. He is a researcher at the Harvard Graduate School of Education Global Education Innovation Initiative, and a Fellow of the Royal Soci...
2022-08-07
43 min
The Edu Salon
Tracey Ezard on leading for collaboration, culture and growth
Deborah Netolicky talks to Tracey Ezard about leadership, collaboration, learning, and developing psychologically-safe organisational cultures. Tracey has a background in teaching and educational leadership in the Victorian state system; business management and HR in fine dining restaurants; and project management in the automotive industry. She has been running her own speaking and consulting practice for sixteen years, and is known for her Ferocious Warmth leadership approach and collaborative framework The Buzz. Tracey has run leadership, cultural and strategic programs throughout Australia, New Zealand and the UK. She is a National Fellow of the Australian Council of Education Leaders, a Certified...
2022-07-24
42 min
The Edu Salon
Trista Hollweck on professional learning, wellbeing and community
Deborah Netolicky talks to Dr Trista Hollweck about mentoring, coaching, teacher agency, wellbeing, play, and community. Trista is a pracademic who integrates the worlds of research, policy, and practice. She is a former teacher, vice-principal, and school district consultant. She is Director of the ARC Education Program that brings together Ministers and professional leaders from seven countries to advance equitable, inclusive and humanitarian goals in education, and co-Principal Investigator of the Canadian Playful Schools Network funded by the LEGO Foundation in the University of Ottawa. Her research has examined teacher induction, mentoring and coaching programs and their systemic change implications...
2022-07-10
42 min
The Edu Salon
Paul Campbell on leadership, pracademia, and collaboration
Deborah Netolicky talks to Dr Paul Campbell about teaching, leading, pracademia, and collaboration. Paul is Vice Principal of ESF Sha Tin Junior School in Hong Kong, with responsibility for learning, teaching, and assessment, professional learning, quality assurance, and child protection and safeguarding. Paul is also on a partial secondment to the ESF Centre for Research where he leads the 'Seeds of Leadership' programme. He is also a Partner Tutor at the University of Dundee working on MEd programmes in Educational Studies, and External Reviewer for MEd programmes at the University of Hong Kong. Paul is Chair of the International Professional...
2022-06-26
45 min
Teachers Education Review
TER #199 - Effects of Class Streaming with Olivia Johnston - 22 June 2022
Main Feature: Olivia Johnston discusses her research into student perceptions of the eperience of class streaming; Deb Netolicky talks about her new podcast, the Edu SalonRegular Features: Kolber’s Corner, Steven Kolber discusses using papercraft bingo as an approach to retrieval practice; Ideology in Education, Tom Mahoney discusses t curriculum as an inherrently ideological space.Join our episode 200 Q&A at https://terpodcast.com/2022/06/14/join-our-episode-200-qa/ Timecodes:00:00:00 Opening Credits00:01:31 Intro00:04:12 Kolber’s Corner00:11:13 Ideology in Education00:18:22 Deb Netolicky – The Edu Salon Podcast00:32:25 Feature Intro00:34:30 Interview – Olivia Johnston01:12:19 Patron Shout Outs01:14:01 AnnouncementsLinks:- Steven Kolber on Twitter – https://twitter.com/steven_kolber- To...
2022-06-22
1h 17
Teachers Education Review
TER #199 - Effects of Class Streaming with Olivia Johnston - 22 June 2022
Main Feature: Olivia Johnston discusses her research into student perceptions of the eperience of class streaming; Deb Netolicky talks about her new podcast, the Edu SalonRegular Features: Kolber’s Corner, Steven Kolber discusses using papercraft bingo as an approach to retrieval practice; Ideology in Education, Tom Mahoney discusses t curriculum as an inherrently ideological space.Join our episode 200 Q&A at https://terpodcast.com/2022/06/14/join-our-episode-200-qa/ Timecodes:00:00:00 Opening Credits00:01:31 Intro00:04:12 Kolber’s Corner00:11:13 Ideology in Education00:18:22 Deb Netolicky – The Edu Salon Podcast00:32:25 Feature Intro00:34:30 Interview – Olivia Johnston01:12:19 Patron Shout Outs01:14:01 AnnouncementsLinks:- Steven Kolber on Twitter – https://twitter.com/steven_kolber- To...
2022-06-22
1h 17
The Edu Salon
Dylan Wiliam on learning, teaching, and cultures of continuous improvement
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Dylan Wiliam about his important work in formative assessment, as well as how classrooms and schools can create cultures of continuous improvement for all. Dylan is Emeritus Professor of Educational Assessment at University College London. In a varied career, he has taught in inner-city schools, directed a large-scale testing program, served a number of roles in university administration, including Dean of a School of Education, and pursued a research program focused on supporting teachers to develop their use of assessment in support of learning. His books include 'Embedded Formative Assessment', 'Leading Teacher Learning', and 'Creating...
2022-06-12
43 min
The Edu Salon
Marnee Shay on Indigenous education, research and representation
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Marnee Shay about flexi schools, yarning, and the education experiences of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander young people. Marnee is an award-winning Aboriginal educator and researcher whose maternal connections are to Wagiman country, and she also has strong connections to Aboriginal communities in South East Queensland where she was born and raised. She is a Senior Research Fellow in the School of Education and an affiliate Senior Research Fellow in the Centre for Policy Futures at the University of Queensland. Her work spans the fields of Indigenous education and policy, flexible schooling, and youth studies...
2022-05-29
43 min
The Edu Salon
Dennis Shirley on change, wellbeing and engagement in education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Dennis Shirley about educational change, wellbeing, student engagement, and teaching. During the episode, Dennis shares an impromptu poetry recitation, mindful moments, and deep reflections on his own practice. He is Gabelli Faculty Fellow and Professor of Education at the Lynch School of Education and Human Development at Boston College, and also a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts in London, and a Richard von Weizsäcker Fellow of the Bosch Foundation in Berlin. Dennis has conducted research and led professional development for teachers, principals, and affiliated staff in 30 nations in 6 continents. His prolific work h...
2022-05-15
44 min
The Edu Salon
Victoria Showunmi on identity, gender, race and class in education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Victoria Showunmi about identity, racism, classism, gender equity and intersectionality in education, especially in terms of the experiences of black girls and black women. Victoria is Associate Professor in Education at University College London’s Institute of Education and has led educational equity and leadership projects all over the world. Her research and projects focus on gender and educational leadership, and black young women and their wellbeing through an intersectional lens. Join the conversation on social media. Victoria: @ShowunmiV on Twitter. Deb: @debsnet on Twitter and @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram. The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Twitter an...
2022-05-01
40 min
The Edu Salon
Santiago Rincón-Gallardo on living, liberating and leading learning
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Santiago Rincón-Gallardo about what it means to liberate learning from schooling, including global examples of learning communities embracing learning as a practice of freedom and humanity. Santiago is an education consultant, founder and director of Liberating Learning, and Chief Research Officer at Michael Fullan’s consulting team. He conducts research and advises leaders and educators to liberate learning in school networks and across educational systems in the United States, Canada, Latin America, and Australia. As an educator and organiser, Santiago worked for over a decade to promote grassroots pedagogical change initiatives in Mexican public sch...
2022-04-17
43 min
The Edu Salon
Amanda McKay on principals’ lives, work and wardrobes
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Amanda McKay (formerly Heffernan) about principals’ identities, work, wellbeing, and wardrobes. Amanda, a former public school principal, is a Senior Lecturer in Educational Leadership at Monash University whose work focuses on principals’ work and lives, and on how we can better attract, support, and keep school leaders within the profession. She has a particular interest in leadership in complex school settings, including those in rural and remote areas, and the skills and knowledge that are needed to successfully lead those schools. She is author of numerous publications, including the award-winning book 'The Principal and School Impr...
2022-04-03
42 min
The Edu Salon
Adam Voigt on restorative practices and restoring teaching
Deborah Netolicky talks with Adam Voigt about restorative practices, principalship, and trusting the teaching profession. Adam was a teacher and primary principal before founding the company Real Schools, a business that partners with schools to develop tools, skills, and attitudes to build meaningful relationships and positive school cultures. He an author, speaker, and prominent commentator on education in the Australian media, including news and current affairs show ‘The Project’, work through which he advocates for students and those working in schools. Join the conversation on social media. - Adam: @adam_voigt on Twitter and @voigty72 on Instagram. - Deb: @debsnet on T...
2022-03-19
43 min
The Edu Salon
Vivienne Porritt on gender equity, impact and courage in education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Vivienne Porritt OBE about impact in education, gender equity, WomenEd, and being 10% braver. Previously a teacher, secondary headteacher, Executive Director of the London Centre for Leadership in Learning, Director for School Partnerships at University College London, a Chair of Governors, and a Founding Fellow and Vice President of The Chartered College of Teaching, Vivienne is currently a leadership consultant supporting school and academy leaders with professional learning and development, impact evaluation, vision, strategy and women's leadership. She is one of the Co-Founders and Global Strategic Leaders of WomenEd. Join the conversation on social media. - Vivienne...
2022-03-05
41 min
The Edu Salon
Jacob Easley II on equity, agency and measurement in education
Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Jacob Easley II about equity, inclusion, culturally responsive teaching, measuring educational effectiveness, and the effects of the pandemic. An expert in educational accountability, equity, and improvement, Jacob is Dean of the Graduate School of Education at Touro College, New York, and previously served in various education and leadership positions across five different states, and the District of Columbia. Join the conversation on social media. - Jacob: @Drje2 on Twitter and @drje2 on Instagram. - Deb: @debsnet on Twitter and @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram. - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Twitter and Instagram. Want to know more? ...
2022-02-19
44 min
The Edu Salon
Christian van Nieuwerburgh on coaching for optimal performance and optimal wellbeing
Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Christian van Nieuwerburgh about coaching, respectful conversations, professional growth, and teaching. Christian is an author and an authority on the use of coaching in educational settings. He is Professor of Coaching and Positive Psychology at the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, and Global Director of Growth Coaching International. Join the conversation on social media. - Christian: @ChristianvN on Twitter and @coachonamotorcycle on Instagram. - Deb: @debsnet on Twitter and @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram. - The Edu Salon podcast: @theedusalon on Twitter and Instagram. Want to know more? - Growth Coaching International: https://www.growthcoaching.com...
2022-02-05
45 min
The Edu Salon
Prologue
Welcome to The Edu Salon! In this preliminary episode, host and salonnière Dr Deborah Netolicky discusses the why and what of this podcast, and a little about her.
2022-01-22
10 min
Lighting a Fire! All things Teaching and Learning with the Teaching Council
In Conversation with Dr Deborah Netolicky
Dr Deborah Netolicky has more than 20 years of experience in teaching and school leadership in Australia and England. She is currently Head of Teaching and Learning at St Mark’s Anglican Community School, Honorary Research Associate at Murdoch University, Chair of a local primary school board, and member of education advisory committees. She blogs at theeduflaneuse.com, is author of Transformational Professional Learning: Making a Difference in Schools, editor of the upcoming Future Alternatives for Educational Leadership: Diversity, Inclusion, Equity and Democracy and co-editor of Flip the System. Deborah joins Tomás Ó Ruairc, Director of the Teaching Counc...
2021-07-05
1h 02
Game Changers
Series 2 Episode 7: Transforming Teachers - Deborah Netolicky
The Game Changers podcast celebrates those true pioneers in education who are building schools for tomorrow. In the seventh episode of the second series of the Game Changers podcast, your hosts Associate Professor of Education and Enterprise Philip Cummins and prominent educational Thought Leader Adriano Di Prato discuss leading practice in the area of professional learning for teachers from Deborah Netolicky. Deborah is Head of Teaching and Learning at St Mark’s Anglican Community School in Perth, Australia, an Honorary Research Associate at Murdoch University, Deputy Chair of the Karrinyup Primary School Board and a member of numerous education advisory co...
2020-07-02
44 min
TLTalkRadio
Season 6: Episode 38 – Interview with Armand Doucet – Thinking about Pedagogy in a Pandemic
In this episode, we are speaking with Armand Doucet who recently co-wrote a report with Deborah Netolicky, Koen Timmers, and Jim Tuscano entitled Thinking about pedagogy in an unfolding pandemic: an independent report on approaches to distance learning during Covid 19 School Closures. Armand is one of the world’s foremost pracademics and teachers in education. He is a sought-after leader,…Read more
2020-04-30
00 min
empowerED Podcast with Francis Jim Tuscano
S05E02: Global Voices feat. Dr. Deborah Netolicky: Challenges that Teachers Face and the Support They Need at this Time of the Pandemic
Dr. Deborah Netolicky, author of "Transformational Professional Learning: Making a Difference in Schools and education school leader in Perth, Australia, talked about the challenges that teachers face at this time of the COVID-19 Pandemic. She also recommends possible support to help teachers as they continue to respond to the needs of their students despite the great distance separating them. Alongside Arman Doucet and Koen Timmers, she co-wrote our independent report to UNESCO and Education International, "Re-Thinking About Pedagogy in an Unfolding Pandemic." Visit her website: https://theeduflaneuse.com--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/empoweredpodcast...
2020-04-23
18 min
FreshEd
FreshEd #196 – Pedagogy During A Pandemic (Armand Doucet)
Most children are now out of school because of the pandemic. How should we think about teaching and learning during the crisis? How can we ensure the basic needs of students continue to be met out of school? And can digital learning teach the whole child? My guest today is Armand Doucet, one of the world’s foremost pracademics and teachers in education for the Digital Age. He has recently co-written a report with Deborah Netolicky, Koen Timmers, and Francis Jim Tuscano entitled Thinking about pedagogy in an unfolding pandemic: an independent report on approaches to distance learning during Covid 19 Sc...
2020-04-13
28 min
Teachers Education Review
TER #141 - Transformational Professional Learning with Deborah Netolicky - 27 Oct 2019
TER #141 - Transformational Professional Learning with Deborah Netolicky - 27 Oct 2019 by Teachers' Education ReviewSupport TER Podcast at Patreon.com/TERPodcastTER Podcast on TwitterFollow TER Podcast on Facebook
2019-10-27
38 min
Teachers Education Review
TER #141 - Transformational Professional Learning with Deborah Netolicky - 27 Oct 2019
TER #141 - Transformational Professional Learning with Deborah Netolicky - 27 Oct 2019 by Teachers' Education ReviewSupport TER Podcast at Patreon.com/TERPodcastTER Podcast on TwitterFollow TER Podcast on Facebook
2019-10-27
38 min
Habits of Leadership
010: Using Research in Schools with Dr Deborah Netolicky
In this episode of the Habits of Leadership, Dan chats with Dr Deborah Netolicky. Deborah is Dean of Research and Pedagogy at Wesley College and Honorary Research Associate at Murdoch University as well as the author of Transformational Professional Learning: Making a Difference in Schools She also one of the co-editors of Flip the System Australia: What Matters in Education - a book in which Dan also contributed a chapter. Deborah blogs at www.theeduflaneuse.com and tweets using the handle: @debsnet As well as being awarded the Australian Council for Educati...
2019-08-12
32 min
Teachers Education Review
TER #070 - TPL & Professional Identity with Deborah Netolicky - 15 May 2016
00.000 Opening Credits01:19.210 Intro - ICTENSW Conference03:25.790 Off Campus with Dan Haesler12:30.536 Workcover decision re workplace stress24:59.405 Spotlight on Special Education33:17.950 Feature Introduction35:02.202 Interview - Deborah Netolicky1:01:38.838 Thoughts on Professional Learning1:09:05.738 Quote & Sign OffSupport TER Podcast at Patreon.com/TERPodcastTER Podcast on TwitterFollow TER Podcast on Facebook
2016-05-15
1h 10
Teachers Education Review
TER #070 - TPL & Professional Identity with Deborah Netolicky - 15 May 2016
00.000 Opening Credits01:19.210 Intro - ICTENSW Conference03:25.790 Off Campus with Dan Haesler12:30.536 Workcover decision re workplace stress24:59.405 Spotlight on Special Education33:17.950 Feature Introduction35:02.202 Interview - Deborah Netolicky1:01:38.838 Thoughts on Professional Learning1:09:05.738 Quote & Sign OffSupport TER Podcast at Patreon.com/TERPodcastTER Podcast on TwitterFollow TER Podcast on Facebook
2016-05-15
1h 10