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It Depends
78. Joe Tepe is here and he is on fire! Also sperm racing is a thing now.
Jordan and Katie sit down with Joe Tepe from The Strip CrossFit and the conversation was epic. Stop what you are doing and listen to this one on 1/2 speed so you don't miss a thing. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes |
2025-05-16
1h 09
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77. Non-essential sex sounds, Pepsi is losing, and pick up the pieces
Jordan and Katie dig into conflict resolution about sexual moaners in the gym, the fall of Pepsi in the soda wars and why it is a good sign when your coaches pick up trash.CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin
2025-04-15
44 min
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76. Katie could kidnap you, wellness is booming, and ex-members creeping back
Jordan and Katie are back after a long break. So much to catch up on. The CrossFit Open, Katie is going to be a great kidnapper, and so much more.
2025-04-02
53 min
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73. IT'S 2025!! 2024 Industry Rundown, Jordan's L2, Good coach, bad mover?
In this episode, the hosts discuss the devastating California wildfires, personal stories of evacuation, and the importance of maintaining fitness credentials. They reflect on holiday gatherings and the significance of family traditions, before diving into the rising trend of continuous glucose monitors and their implications for health and wellness. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the intersection of fitness and medicine, emphasizing the need for proper nutrition education alongside medical interventions. In this conversation, Katie Hogan and JHo explore various themes surrounding women's health, fitness trends, coaching quality, and the importance of personal development in the fitness industry...
2025-01-10
53 min
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72. New FTC rules, don't be a hoarder, TOP 50% Y'ALL
In this episode, Katie and JHo dive into the curious habits of gym owners, from hoarding broken bumper plates to turning gyms into second garages. They tackle listener questions about cardio equipment—do you need all the gadgets or just the classics?—and discuss why making phone calls might be the simplest (yet hardest) way to grow your gym. Katie shares stories of her daughters’ athletic triumphs, proving that growing up in a CrossFit gym builds more than just muscles. JHo reflects on the idea of "quarters in broken machines," exploring the importance of focus and investing in what truly...
2024-12-14
57 min
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71. It's been a minute
In this conversation, the hosts discuss a range of topics from the acquisition of Infowars by The Onion to the rapid evolution of technology and its implications for society. They reflect on the cultural significance of boxing and MMA, the importance of community and connection in fitness, and the impact of loneliness on mental health. The discussion also touches on personal training dynamics, the future of retail in the fitness industry, and the value of human interaction in a digital age. In this episode, Katie Hogan and JHo discuss the complexities of coaching in the fitness industry, focusing on...
2024-11-21
46 min
PG-ish
From Points to Planning, to Parenting, How to Master Family Travel, an interview with Katie's Travel Tricks
Many of us know that travel is one of the best ways to expose our kids to the most amazing things the world has to offer—but the cost and planning can feel overwhelming for families. Today I’m chatting with Katie from Katie’s Travel Tricks all about how to make travel easy, accessible, and even fun. As an expert who teaches families to travel more affordably, Katie shares her best tips for using points and avoiding common mistakes. Whether you’re dreaming of your next vacation or wondering how to master travel hacking, this episode is for you....
2024-11-12
46 min
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70. Making sales calls, Rogue vs Concept 2, take a break
Jordan and Katie wax nostalgic about the golden days of magazine collages and ransom note aesthetics, then shift gears into the wild world of AI, as JHo tries to figure out if his kid’s calculus grade is pure genius or just a well-played ChatGPT assist.The fitness world gets spicy as they tackle Metfix, which sounds like a workout plan but might just be a secret club with a confusing marketing strategy. But hey, nothing says “join us” like not knowing what you’re signing up for, right? They also highlight the art of making sales calls wi...
2024-10-21
1h 02
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69. Painted dogs, Katie is a hot mom, and making fitness, friends, AND money.
Jordan and Katie kick things off with a lighthearted discussion about viral news, including a Chinese zoo painting dogs to look like pandas. They dive into the importance of following up with gym leads, with JHo sharing insights on their process at RESET and emphasizing how persistence can lead to higher conversions. Katie reflects on the challenges of balancing gym capacity and maintaining the right community vibe in smaller, personal training environments. They also explore the growing influence of AI in fitness, considering how it might complement coaches rather than replace them. The episode wraps up with their usual w...
2024-10-05
58 min
It Depends
68. Affiliate summit, to discount or not to discount, and level up your education
In this episode, Katie Hogan and Jordan Holland discuss a variety of topics ranging from the science behind Doritos and invisibility to the importance of fitness certifications and coaching feedback. They reflect on the recent San Diego Affiliate Summit, share insights on gym management challenges, and emphasize the significance of marketing in the fitness industry. The conversation also touches on the topic of discounts in fitness and concludes with personal wins and lessons learned from the week.CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | ...
2024-09-21
58 min
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67. Ask good questions, Jordan is in France, Katie hates periods, new zone diet
Worst audio in the history of the pod but a trip to France can't stop this duo. Just listen to it. You don't need notes. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up |
2024-09-12
50 min
The Sacred Travel Podcast
EP 22: The Sacred Path of The Blue Lotus with Katie Holland
In this episode Julia and guest Katie Holland journey along India, Bali, Bulgaria and Egypt to reveal the intricate connection between dance and the medicine of the blue lotus across various cultures. Join us for an enlightening conversation celebrating the alchemy of embodied wisdom as the sacred journey back to ourselves. Explore with us:Dance as Path of Initiation: Storytelling to remember your lineage, connection to your innate wisdom and expressing your soul’s truthThe Blue Lotus Medicine - expect mult...
2024-08-02
47 min
It Depends
65. Practice your pitch, taping cats together, and It Depends merch?
Jordan and Katie dive into a quirky 2018 study on parachutes, laugh about pricey military-grade dogs, and admire Bo Jackson's sports career. They discuss CrossFit HQ layoffs, advising gym owners to focus on what they can control. Katie shares BB’s stressful swim lessons, while Jordan vents about slow gym renovations. They highlight CrossFit's expertise in gamification and customization, with Katie humorously noting, "CrossFit is crushing it, everyone else is just taping cats together." The episode wraps up with wins and lessons, emphasizing the importance of addressing the whole person in fitness.CrossFit | Cr...
2024-07-13
42 min
It Depends
64. Crappy rent vs crappy landlords, no kids allowed, and strong sexy seniors
In this week’s snark-filled episode of It Depends, Katie Hogan and Jordan dive into historical trivia, including parachutes and the Stonewall riots. They ponder why people can’t mind their own business, relating it to politics, religion, and CrossFit.Katie discusses her perfect landlords while Jordan rants about his gym move debacle and a landlord blocking their Pride events. The duo also explores a study on how heavy lifting benefits seniors, with Jordan's mom as a prime example.They debate the pros and cons of youth sports, with Katie defending pricey club sports and Jord...
2024-07-02
1h 02
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63. Wearables are for women, saunas are for men
Katie and Jordan are back with their usual blend of wit and wisdom, diving into the absurd and the essential. Katie is adamant about NOT skydiving and Jordan has tried to die on more than 30 occasions. They hilariously navigate the history of June 13th and debate the most useless gym equipment (spoiler: it's not what you think). They tackle Yelp reviews, wearable tech, and the mental health benefits of saunas, all while Jordan reveals the roller-coaster saga of securing a new gym lease. Buckle up for an episode that's as unpredictable as their tangents!CrossFit
2024-06-21
58 min
It Depends
62. The gym without a face, CrossFit Games Semifinals, and Hyrox at your gym
Jordan and Katie don't agree about dogs. Again. There was some epic racing at semifinals but also some really bad attendance and should your gym be a Hyrox affiliate? CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning...
2024-06-02
00 min
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61. Humans vs the algorithm, sucking at sales, and snakes everywhere.
Katie and Jordan kick things off with lots of snake-related news and then Katie gets a little heated over Orange Theory's "data-driven" coaching style. The team answers a listener question about sales and they get into gym filming etiquette.
2024-05-19
56 min
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58. Lay off the buterfly and don't let the brand languish. Lessons from Lifetime Fitness, Bowflex, and Jazzersize.
Katie and Jordan go ham on butterfly pull ups and catch up on a lot of CrossFit news. The Open is in full swing and Katie was basically the most important and beautiful person at the live announcement. The duo draws lessons from Lifetime's stellar performance and they dig into the risk of the CrossFit brand languishing if the players in this community don't all row in the same direction.
2024-03-09
59 min
It Depends
57. Charge like a bathhouse, Riot is closing, and selling your gym
ChatGPT says:In the engaging episode of "It Depends" dated February 22, hosts Katie Hogan and Jordan Holland dive into an eclectic mix of topics, from Taco Bell's innovative menu collaborations and a judge's scandalous resignation to the historic conclusion of Japan's Naked Man Festival. They weave in fascinating historical tidbits like the introduction of popcorn to English colonists and the cession of Florida to the U.S., while engaging in light-hearted banter about personal extravagances and the peculiarities of fitness spaces. The episode shifts towards more serious discussions on gym ownership, with a focus on the challenges and...
2024-02-23
50 min
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56. Can there be too much sex in the gym? What if your partner sucks?
Jordan and Katie do it again. And by "it" I mean they surprise and delight with their brilliance and banter. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up | Washington Post
2024-02-06
53 min
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55. Your CRM game better be strong. Tesla, Tiktok and burnout?
Jordan and Katie chat about CRMs, Tesla fitness gear, and Tiktok partnering with Peloton. The team answers a heavy listener question about burnout as well as other brilliant and delightful musings. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin |
2024-01-19
59 min
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54. Why do people fawn over earlier eras of CrossFit, Google search trends, new years resolutioner haters
Jordan and Katie discuss why folks seem so enamored with an earlier era of CrossFit. They dig into industry news about Google search trends and what they indicate. And the team unpacks negative attitudes around the influx of New Years resolutions. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | ...
2023-12-31
1h 05
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53. SEASON 2! Well sort of. Year 2, so basically the same thing.
Jordan and Katie chat about Ikea's foray into fitness equipment, the Bloomberg report on Xponential franchisees and Jordan throws his mother under the bus with Becca Voigt.CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up
2023-12-15
48 min
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November 16, Language matters, CEO's maybe not so much, and when to start marketing your new business.
Jordan and Katie get into Planet Fitness leadership changes, boujee weight vests, how much language matters period but especially at your gym and when to start marketing your new business. Plus the other random nonsense. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell...
2023-11-17
54 min
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November 2, Don't be like lifetime fitness, do have a plan for a broader service offering, and make sure you are casting a wide net for new members.
Jordan and Katie talk about shoes and why you probably need less CrossFit gear than you currently own. Big and depressing news from Lifetime Fitness, and Hyperice and Escape Fitness are teaming up on recovery and what it means for you. Jordan isn't happy with the MCU. The paper, or the cinematic universe, but only one is discussed on the show. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News |
2023-11-03
56 min
It Depends
October 26, Rogue Invitational is predictive, Spotify has the answer, and you need more continuing education
Katie and Jordan basically teach a masterclass in business with lessons from Spotify. The team goes down a Fast and Furious rabbit hole for a bit but then the fitness business talk comes back in strong with continuing education, Centr making moves, and all about prospects and leads. Also, Jordan might be in love with Daniel Chaffey.CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press
2023-10-28
56 min
It Depends
October 19, Super plunge and Ultra Theragun, stop buying new stuff for the gym, and drop ins suck sometimes
Katie spends way too much time hating on Jordan's breathwork training, the duo discusses NASM's new trainer education program and are there too many features on the new Theragun pro plus?CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | History | Brittanica | Onthisday | ...
2023-10-20
55 min
Regulatory Phishing
The State of Contractor Cybersecurity with Katie Arrington
In this episode of "Regulatory Phishing," former U.S. Department of Defense Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) Katie Arrington joins Holland & Knight Government Contracts and Cybersecurity attorney Eric Crusius to discuss the state of cybersecurity within the defense industrial base, including the rollout of the Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC). The discussion is wide-ranging and offers invaluable insights into what is to come in the months and years ahead.
2023-10-19
57 min
Holland & Knight Legal Podcast
The State of Contractor Cybersecurity with Katie Arrington
In this episode of "Regulatory Phishing," former U.S. Department of Defense Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) Katie Arrington joins Government Contracts and Cybersecurity attorney Eric Crusius to discuss the state of cybersecurity within the defense industrial base, including the rollout of the Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC). The discussion is wide-ranging and offers invaluable insights into what is to come in the months and years ahead. For more, visit: https://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/media-entities/2023/10/podcast--the-state-of-contractor-cybersecurity-with-katie-arrington
2023-10-17
57 min
It Depends
October 12, Your business partner might suckk, CLIMBR gets acquired, and Oura is doubling down on stress
Katie Hogan and Jordan Holland are back with a dive into the Forme and CLIMBR deal, the changes Oura is making to it's platform and business model and they answer a listener question about a lazy good for nothing business partner. And there is still more. Check it out. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter
2023-10-13
44 min
It Depends
October 5, Sharing pronouns, Lulu vs Peloton, and gym lounge areas
Katie and Jordan dig into the partnership between lululemon and Peloton and pull out lessons for gym owners and CrossFit HQ, as well as hit on cereal, gym lounge areas, using pronouns in the gym and inclusivity in general.
2023-10-07
1h 04
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September 29, Jenn Green senior manager of US gym ops, writing a business plan, and fitness in the metaverse
Katie and Jordan get to sit down with Jenn Green to chat about what she does for affiliates. The pair discusses Xponential Fitness getting into the metaverse, there is a listener question about business plans and so much more. SHOW NOTESCrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | History
2023-10-02
1h 01
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September 21, Everyone is a salesperson, lessons from EoS and Planet Fitness.
Katie and Jordan get into who should be selling in your business. Spoiler alert it is EVERYONE! They chat about lessons from EōS Fitness and what to learn as they cross 1 million member mark. And maybe you stop trippin' when CrossFit changes a CEO. SHOW NOTESCrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Ne...
2023-09-24
56 min
It Depends
September 14 Orange Theory is coming for your weightlifters and The CrossFit Games equipped by Life Fitness?
Katie and Jordan get into Orange Theory Fitness' new strength program as well as Life Fitness entering the functional fitness equipment fray with a new equipment line. The duo discusses paying your staff for opening and closing and is it ok to run your gym as a hobby.
2023-09-17
56 min
It Depends
September 7, Guido Trinidad is crushing it, but you already knew that, vacations are important, and maybe you should upgrade your gym tech
Katie and Jordan get to talk shop with the legend who built Peak 360 CrossFit and Wodapalooza as well as engage in their normal frivolous banter covering industry news on Xponentials new partnerships and Crunch Fitness' new technology integrations. SHOW NOTESCrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | History
2023-09-09
1h 12
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August 31, AI is your friend, kids suck sometimes, old people are LIARS!
Katie and Jordan dig into the use of the question of the day as well as other ways to engage. Old people are lying and we won't stand for it. AI is taking over everything but it will be your ally if you learn how to use it. And kids and dogs may or may not belong in the gym.SHOW NOTESCrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry |
2023-09-02
49 min
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August 24, Feedback loops, CrossFit Games at ATT Stadium, and affiliate rookie of the year?
Katie and Jordan get to chat with Max Cantor who after over a decade of CrossFit and a successful career in the tech space is opening his first affiliate with his wife. Dial in your sales process and raise your rates kids. Plus Jordan calls his shot and explains why AT&T Stadium will be the next location for the CrossFit Games.
2023-08-28
1h 06
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August 13, WE ARE BACK! And Caleb Gregory is with us.
Katie and Jordan are back after a little break. Jordan is fatter than ever after the Iowa State Fair and the CrossFit Games. Caleb Gregory is here to talk about why CrossFit East Nashville is so amazing and how he basically sold it for a billion dollars. The team discusses getting your L2 vs Specialty courses and pound plates vs kilos.
2023-08-20
1h 05
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July 27, Katie loves GORUCK, should you go big or cheap when it comes to a lease, and there are enemies at the gates.
Katie and Jordan get into coaching teens at your affiliate, they unpack some of their training, and Jordan is still fat but might be the best dad ever. No surprise there. NOBULL has a new majority shareholder and venture funding is coming to the fitness industry in a big way. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter
2023-07-29
53 min
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July 20, You should make your gym prett, Lululemon layoffs and the WHO is...a thing...I guess.
Jordan and Katie dig into reasons to make your gym prettier. They discuss layoffs at Lululemon and why you should care. And the news from the WHO and how keeping it simple is still working for CrossFit's nutrition prescription. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | History | Brittanica
2023-07-25
46 min
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July 13, Finding "good" CrossFit gyms, F45 HQ sucks more than ever, West Coast WZA and Mission Impossible 7
Katie and Jordan talk about their strategies for finding a good CrossFit gym, more sad news for F45, and TYR Wodapalooza is coming to the West Coast and Jordan isn't excited about it.
2023-07-16
1h 02
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July 6, Does being a gym owner ever get easy, one of the host is crushing on Dale King and it isn't Katie, and lessons from Xponential
Jordan and Katie discuss whether it is better to be completely original when it comes to opening your affiliate or if you should take the road oft traveled. They also show an unreasonable amount of love to Dale King and they draw some lessons from Xponentials recent woes in the stock market.
2023-07-11
1h 03
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June 29, It is a great time to open a gym, Ozempic is already outdated, and you should definitely double down on behavior change.
Katie and Jordan talk about the imporance of brevity during the whiteboard brief, how you should be getting your clients to work on behavior changes outside of the gym, and why now is a great time to open a gym. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | History | Brittanica
2023-07-02
56 min
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June 22, Jason Khalipa has more money and more muscles than you. He really wants to help you improve on both.
Katie and Jordan go deep with Jason Khalipa, CrossFit Games icon, highest grossing affiliate owner, and most impressive triceps in CrossFit. We also hit a listener question on when to throw in the towel and of course the perpetually incredible banter that always ensues. How much sex is too much at one time?CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | ...
2023-06-25
1h 34
Holy Cow A Cubs Podcast
Holy Cow! A Cubs Podcast Episode 105; Katie Dzwierzynski
Friend of the podcast Katie Dzwierzynski joins Sean to talk about the recent Cubs hot streak, Mike Tauchman mania, and the iffy Marquee broadcasts. And yes Pat and Ron I really do read adult diaper ads on the radio.
2023-06-20
19 min
Holy Cow A Cubs Podcast
Holy Cow! A Cubs Podcast Episode 105; Katie Dzwierzynski
Friend of the podcast Katie Dzwierzynski joins Sean to talk about the recent Cubs hot streak, Mike Tauchman mania, and the iffy Marquee broadcasts. And yes Pat and Ron I really do read adult diaper ads on the radio.
2023-06-20
19 min
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June 15, Dale King is the coolest and he knows it.
Katie and Jordan get to chat with Dale King from PSKC CrossFit. Dale is also crushing it in a couple of other businesses because he is awesome like that. If you want to maximize your beard game then check out Doc Spartan. So many good lessons from this Ohio based CrossFit gangster. We dig into buying your gym to keep it from closing and answer a listener question about choosing to be a little niche within the niche.CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate |
2023-06-18
1h 37
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May 8, Adam Neiffer is nicer than you, like a lot more, should use AI, and the fitness industry is booming
Adam joins Katie and Jordan and we cover a lot of ground, no surprise. They are incredible at interviewing people. Plus Adam is amazing. Obvi. We chat about AI for gym owners and maybe your community isn't as amazing as you think it is. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday
2023-06-12
1h 25
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June 1, Alan is definitely winning but he wants you to win too!
Alan joins Katie and Jordan to chat about how he found success with Rhapsody CrossFit, the team digs into the direction of CrossFit HQ, and Jordan has no self-control. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | History | Brittanica | Onthisday | Forbes
2023-06-03
1h 31
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May 25, Don Faul keeps the party going, why affiliates should learn from Barry's bootcamp, and how to develop coaches if you aren't a great coach.
Katie and Jordan continue the conversation with CrossFit CEO Don Faul in part 2 of this epic interview. The team discusses how to develop your coaches if you aren't the right person to do the job yourself, who affiliates as a whole could use a little more polish in their businesses, and does a great coach make more out of the program or does a great program not need a great coach. SHOW NOTESCrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | F...
2023-05-26
1h 23
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May 18, Don Faul isn't holding back and we love it
CrossFit CEO Don Faul joins Katie and Jordan for the most candid interview he has ever given. Big questions were asked and Don didn't balk at a single one. The pair discuss allocating funds in your business and if great coaches are made or born. This is part one of the interview with Don.
2023-05-19
1h 20
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May 11, Bryant Powers is better than you at everything, Jenny Craig is dead, Oura is crushing, and you don't need TikTok, or maybe you do.
Katie and Jordan get some learnin on systems from a true master of his craft. Bryant Powers has been doing CrossFit longer than you, has opened more gyms than you, but he still wants to be friends and help you crush it like he does. Katie says grandmothers should be doing muscle ups and you should definitely have at least one social media account. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech...
2023-05-12
1h 37
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CINCO DE QUATRO! Josh Hunnicut is here and raising the bar for affiliate financial success, Oura is up and Halo is down, and finally something nice about Trent.
Katie and Jordan talk to Josh Hunnicut from New Species CrossFit. Long time affiliate owner who is absolutely crushing it and he is not shy about it. He isn't shy about anything in fact and we are here for all of it. Oura is making gains, Amazon is retreating in the wearable space and Inside Tracker thinks women are cool? And Jordan finally tells the world how he feels about Trent. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | ...
2023-05-05
1h 35
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April 27, CrossFit layoffs and Jordan is a casualty, new business vs retention, and semifinals throwdowns.
Jordan and Katie discuss Jordan's recent departure from CrossFit HQ. He is sad but not shattered. And more importantly he still believes in the mission unequivocally. Is it better to bring in new business or focus on retention? It's a short one but definitely worth a listen. SHOW NOTESCrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | ...
2023-04-29
35 min
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April 20, Chriss Smith is dropping knowledge, fitness racing is on the rise, and you why you should smile more
Katie and Jordan get lessons in just about everything from the legend Chriss Smith from Trident Athletics and Trident Mindset. It takes a special person to build a 600+ member gym and then decide to scale back just to create more opportunities to foster connection. SHOW NOTESCrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter
2023-04-22
1h 40
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April 13, Andrew Charlesworth comes in hot with the money talk, we want more from Hiller, rent is an issue, and everybody loves Twins.
Katie and Jordan chop it up with Midwest Regional Affiliate Rep Andrew Charlesworth and his affiliate and his thoughts on all things money. How can we get better from Andrew Hiller, and how much should you be spending on rent. Oh, and Jordan just hit a PR even though he is old and fluffy. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press |
2023-04-14
1h 19
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April 6, CFL1 isn't just for coaches, Mark Wahlberg vs Nicole Carroll, and would a 5 minute mile help your open ranking
Katie and Jordan unpack reasons to get your CFL1 even though you may have no plans to be a coach. Mark Wahlberg is trying to be like Nicole Carroll to save F45, a new new weight loss drug is here, and Katie is the fittest volleyball mom and it scares people. SHOW NOTESCrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press
2023-04-07
1h 12
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March 30, Justin Cotler is here but he won't coach either of us. BMI still sucks, Target is innovating, should CrossFit HQ go DTC?
Katie and Jordan are joined by legendary coach to the stars Justin Cotler. Well the stars of the CrossFit Games anyway. We all wish he trained all of the Kates though. Target is doing cool stuff with Gainful, and beleive it or not new reporting shows that the body mass index is still trash. F you Ancel Keys! And a discussion about trading for memberships and how many machines does one gym actually need. SHOW NOTESCrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate |
2023-03-31
1h 51
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March 23, Dating your members, raccoon dogs, more lessons from franchise fitness, and Precor layoffs are a good sign for CrossFit
Katie and Jordan once again perfectly thread the needle between brilliance and whimsy. Short episode because our guest today didn't. come through for us. We take lessons from Xponential Fitness' earnings report, unpack the Forbes article on CrossFit, celebrate Precor layoffs, and somehow start unpacking relationships in the gym and end up in stinky member territory. It is a wild ride. Just listen to it. CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | ...
2023-03-24
41 min
It Depends
March 16, CrossFit inside Wal-Mart, Quarterfinal review with a quarterfinal athlete, big vs small gyms, and showering your members with love
Jordan and Katie talk about new alternatives in health care and what this could or should mean for affiliates. Review the quarter finals workouts from an athlete and a business perspective. Do you need a shower in your gym? Probably not but let's review the data.
2023-03-18
1h 01
It Depends
March 9, Kevin Ogar teaches us stuff, personal training at CrossFit gyms, Planet Fitness is breaking records, and Alexis Raptis is going to win the CrossFit Games?
Katie and Jordan cover so much ground with Kevin Ogar. You don't know what you don't know so you need to check this one out. Personal training at your CrossFit gym could unlock careers for your staff. Apple is doing cool stuff and Planet Fitness is absolutely crushing the revenue game but not the results game and why you should care. SHOW NOTESCrossFitCrossFit GamesBecome a CrossFit AffiliateFitt InsiderClub IndustryA...
2023-03-11
1h 21
It Depends
March 2, The best insurance lesson ever and why RRG is the only answer, NOBULL is going big in London, do you need a head trainer, and what you should do about the crappy gym down the street
Katie and Jordan are joined by Eric Reingen of the CrossFit RRG and he is breaking down everything you didn't know you wanted to know about insurance. And if you listen to this and don't immediately sign up for the RRG you need to listen to it again. Nut milks are officially milks, London is where the cool kids work out, and why you shouldn't be angry about the crappy gym down the street you should be helpful instead.CrossFitCrossFit GamesBecome a CrossFit Affiliate
2023-03-03
1h 19
It Depends
February 23, Finding new members, developing new trainers, arrogant Costco shopping, and a gated CrossFit community.
Jordan and Katie spend some time diving into developing trainers, pursuing more credentials vs getting more time on the floor with actual clients. Do you judge people for what's in their shopping cart? Could vegetable prescriptions for food insecure populations be on the way? And how to attract members who have never done CrossFit before.CrossFitCrossFit GamesBecome a CrossFit AffiliateFitt InsiderClub IndustryAthletech News
2023-02-24
1h 13
It Depends
February 16, Jesse Burdick comes in hot with the steroid talk, F45, 24 Hour Fitness, and Tonal are taking hits, trainer pay rates, and profitability talk
Katie and Jordan dig into some industry news regarding big players and the hits they are taking. F45 and 24 Hour Fitness are on quite a roller coaster. Tonal is for sale if you have a few hundred million dollars, and how to think about compensating your traininers. And is your gym actually in the black or is it an illusion based on your volunteer efforts? Katie's husband Jesse Burdick joins us to talk about powerlifting and gives Jordan quite the education on steroid use in and outside of CrossFit competitions.Thanks to:CrossFit.com
2023-02-17
1h 27
It Depends
February 9, Gym ownership as a side hustle, CrossFit Hillcrest update, 2023 fitness trends, and when to fire a trainer,
Katie and Jordan discuss the true value of the CrossFit Level 2 seminar and why every person who calls themself a professional coach should take it. They dig into some industry news on loneliness, a startup focusing on puberty and body health for young women, and Xplonential fitness is going to sea. They also discuss when to fire someone at your gym and Jordan gives an update on the gym he purchased in San Diego.
2023-02-09
1h 00
It Depends
February 2, Happy black people month, Niki Brazier is here and delightful, should your staff be sales trained and a case for rotational movements
Jordan and Katie dig into marketing concepts with the brilliant Niki Brazier, Jordan has a serious number 2 situation and a magical drop in experience at CrossFit Pendulum. The team unpacks the how and why behind rotational movements in your programming, and they unpack wins and lessons from the West Coast affiliate summit.
2023-02-03
1h 14
JamJarGill Podcast
S02 E08: Women & Bellydancing (part 2) with Katie Holland
I met Katie through Starseed Business Networking (a free online networking for everyone in the holistic space), she was actually the featured guest speaker the month we met, I was instantly taken with her story and what she was doing in the world, how she was empowering women in such a creative way. So I reached out to her to ask if she'd like to be a guest on my podcast and she said yes! This conversation was so interesting, so deep, I didn't want to edit it down and down so I decided instead to split it into...
2023-02-01
53 min
It Depends
January 26, Acquisition vs retention, H&M has a gym, John Wooley joins, and you don't need to care about competing to do the Open
Katie and Jordan discuss whether it is better to focus on acquisition or retention, how drug companies are targeting obese people, and H&M's fitness concept store in Brooklyn. John Wooley of Make Wods Great Again joins the show for a chat about his epic productivity, lessons from business in and outside of the affiliate, and why you should do the CrossFit Open.
2023-01-27
1h 01
Happening on the Hudson
WE'RE BACK! Holland Hell, Fancy Ferries & Local Foodie Sirena Aguiar talks best food spots for HC Restaurant Week!!
We're back baby! I explain why I've been MIA for a month now and then we hop right back into a little news. Holland Tunnel Closures until 2025 Ferry's are finally getting updated! Hoboken cop assaulted after arresting a crazy. Search for 2 missing NJ women continues on. INTERVIEW WITH FOOD INFLUENCER SIRENA AGUIAR Sirena gives her top 5 spots of 2022 I ask her opinion on best date spot, best food on a budget and more. Then we talk HC Restaurant week. Where to sit and where to...
2023-01-26
46 min
JamJarGill Podcast
S02 E07: Women & Bellydancing (part 1) with Katie Holland
I met Katie through Starseed Business Networking (a free online networking for everyone in the holistic space), she was actually the featured guest speaker the month we met, I was instantly taken with her story and what she was doing in the world, how she was empowering women in such a creative way. So I reached out to her to ask if she'd like to be a guest on my podcast and she said yes! This conversation was so interesting, so deep, I didn't want to edit it down and down so I decided instead to split it into...
2023-01-25
1h 00
It Depends
January 19, Affiliate summit, Katie loves her Oura ring, Jason Khalipa is back in CrossFit, Chase Ingraham is on the show and puts Jordan's podcast voice to shame!
Jordan and Katie talk about the first affiliate summit of 2023, and about how Whoop sucks but Oura is cool, and Jason Khalipa is back in the CrossFit fold. They go over on ramp vs straight to class models, and Chase Ingraham joins us on the show. Wins, lessons, she implies, he infers, we have got it all. CrossFit.comCrossFit GamesFitt Insider Whoop sucksClub Industry Lifetime Fitness is crushing
2023-01-25
1h 13
It Depends
January 12, Continuing education, fat kids on drugs, Adrian Bozman joins us, and when to get a bigger space
Katie and Jordan in typical fashion cover a lot of ground. The team is shocked and appalled by the new guidance on childhood obesity. They discuss the merits of continuing education with specific emphasis on the CrossFit level 1-4. Adrian Bozman is the first guest on the show and you don't want to miss that interview. And the listener question this week is about when is the right time to get a bigger space. CrossFit.comhttps://www.crossfit.com/CrossFit Gameshttps://games.crossfit.com/C...
2023-01-13
1h 07
It Depends
Jan 5, The magic of CrossFit, getting angry on Facebook, the importance of starting off on the right foot, and numbers you should be tracking
Jordan and Katie talk about the Magic of CrossFit campaign, how Jordan got fired up over a Facebook post from a gym owner, the important numbers you should be tracking in your business. Jordan dropped into CrossFit Alinea and loved it.
2023-01-07
57 min
It Depends
December 29, Incentivizing staff, Gary Gaines departs CrossFit, Netflix adds fitness, and NOBULL is in the NFL
Jordan and Katie reflect on Gary Gaines' time at CrossFit HQ, discuss options for creating pay incentives for staff, as well as their respective top 5 CrossFit moments from 2022.
2022-12-31
1h 04
It Depends
December 22, CrossFit Louvre crushing, strength training is so hot right now, and DEI fun
Katie and Jordan talk about Jordan's international drop in tour, and how the rise of strength training among your competitors is a good sign for the industry and your business and then dig into a listener question about pursuing diversity for diversity's sake in your affiliate.
2022-12-23
1h 06
It Depends
December 15, Lessons from fitness franchising, do you know your [bill of] rights, cleaning up membership rates,
Jordan tests Katie's knowledge of American government, and the team goes deep into fitness franchising but not without first digging into chicken franchising. Lessons from Jordan's drop in at CrossFit Signal Hill and a discussion of cleaning up membership rates after purchasing a gym.
2022-12-16
59 min
Inspiring Spiritual Entrepreneurs with Liz Findlay
Meet Katie Holland - Inspiring Spiritual Entrepreneurs
Welcome to this podcast series on “Inspiring Spiritual Entrepreneurs” hosted by Liz Findlay. Today we have the pleasure of meeting Katie Holland. Katie uses movement as an integrative tool for self-empowerment, propelling you forward on your visionary soul path. She focuses on Divine Feminine Alchemy both online and in-person with workshops and retreats. CONNECT WITH KATIE HOLLAND: Website: https://awakenedbellydance.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/awakenedbellydance/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@katieholland8241 ABOUT THIS PODCAST SERIES - "Inspiring Spiritual Entrepreneurs": We’ll be chatting with some of the wonderful business owners...
2022-12-14
12 min
It Depends
December 8, Employee compensation, unicorns, polygamy, CrossFit SOMA, Jute CrossFit and the FDA sucks...alot
Katie and Jordan dig into employee compensation, unicorn permits, why you should stop putting your face online. Oh and a bunch of other mildly related topics and their impact on your fitness business.
2022-12-10
1h 07
It Depends
December 1, Rosa Parks, eviction notice, Spartan Race, better follow up, and better sales training
Katie and Jordan talk about effect follow up to ensure your business is running like a business, the need to train your staff to sell and just as important the need to let them make some mistakes along the way, plus you could be sent to prison for a booty call in Indonesia. It's a riot.
2022-12-05
55 min
It Depends
November 22, Dead minks, drop in at my own gym, leap seconds, mental health apps, weight check in, and Black Friday questions.
Katie and Jordan are having too much fun talking about dead animals, lessons on the leap second, and a check in on Jordan's weight loss progress. They also answer a listener question on Black Friday deals and share lessons in parenting.
2022-11-23
56 min
It Depends
November 22, Dead minks, drop in at my own gym, leap seconds, mental health apps, weight check in, and Black Friday questions,
Katie and Jordan are having too much fun talking about dead animals, lessons on the leap second, and a check in on Jordan's weight loss progress. They also answer a listener question on Black Friday deals and share lessons in parenting.
2022-11-23
58 min
It Depends
November 12, Customer follow up, CrossFit affiliates in the news, Lessons from Crypto meltdown, Chad reflections
Katie and Jordan cover a lot of ground from pothead cows in Ireland, to how the FTX meltdown has some hidden wisdom for gym owners and Jordan finally goes to the dentist. The CrossFit Open registration is live and one of us is signed up already. It doesn't matter who. Amazon is dealing drugs, we talk space travel, and reflections on Chad and so much more. Let's get into it!
2022-11-18
56 min
It Depends
0. It Depends Preview
Check out the preview of the brand new podcast from your 3rd favorite flowmaster and her diversity hire. Katie Hogan and Jordan Holland are talking about all things fitness and business with a slight CrossFit bias. It's like real news and stuff.
2022-11-12
01 min
It Depends
1. November 10, Early Open registration, Level 4 launch, Gym culture, Inflation impact
FIRST EPISODE: Katie and Jordan get into all things CrossFit and business. What does that mean? Listen and find out. The Open is open early this year, the Level 4 is finally coming back, and Don goes down under. And Katie and Jordan might be bad parents.
2022-11-11
52 min
The Clog Pod
AuThursday – Katie Baldwin
This episode is also available as a blog post: https://tinaholland.wordpress.com/2022/08/18/authursday-katie-baldwin/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tina-holland/support
2022-08-21
02 min
Creative Mental Health
Global Conversations with special guests speakers Katie Holland and Kelsey Walker
Brining conversation to the challenges we face as women. Focusing on healing and helping each other we speak to two amazingly dedicated women for a dynamic and thought provoking interview. Kelsey, who offers comfort to women who are suffering as a result of abortion, child, infant or pregnancy loss. Katie, who works with sacred dance to support healing and self expression. Hosted by Sarah-Zee Haskett, a creative, psychotherapist & mental health nurse, her team at Creative Mental Health are passionate about creating community networks, connection and conversations that matter. #women #wellness #conversation #internationalwomensday #wellbeing #goodmentalhealth #creativementalhealth #artsinhealth Kat...
2022-03-11
42 min
The Fred Holland Podcast
The Fred Holland Podcast-Katie Britt-Republican Candidate for U.S. Senate
How many will there be? Katie Britt is currently one of four seeking to replace the retiring Senator Richard Shelby. On this episode of the Fred Holland Podcast she shares her vision and why she should be your choice for Alabama. @KatieBrittforAL www.katiebrittforsenate.com
2021-10-08
26 min
Potential to Powerhouse: Success Secrets for Women Entrepreneurs
Bringing a Big Idea to Fruition and Finding Your Inner Fabulousness with Katie Echevarria Rosen Kitchens of FabFitFun
In this episode, Tracy Holland talks to Katie Echevarria Rosen Kitchens, Co-Founder of FabFitFun, as she opens up about her childhood, reveals how she became a journalist, and then eventually an entrepreneur. Her entrepreneurial journey started with a big idea, for a lifestyle direct-to-consumer subscription box, which has grown to be so much bigger than ever she ever imagined. We discuss how the concept for Fab, Fit, Fun went from a simple blog, to a digital editorial business, to a “ship to your home” subscription box. Katie talks about her evolution as a business leader, progression of FabFitFun, and the r...
2021-05-19
1h 01
UN-CAPED HEROES - The Podcast
Episode 55 - Katie Grimes
We all are recovering from something! This month, we are celebrating National Recovery Month and are bringing you stories of people who have recovered from something and are helping others recover as a result. In Katie's story, she challenges and encourages us to love ourself first. The value of this simple truth runs deep. Katie has conquered and desires to help others do the same. You can reach out to Katie at KatieGrimes.com!
2020-09-21
19 min
The Alchemy Lab with Colm Holland
Colm Holland - The Alchemy Lab - with guest Katie Oman
In the Alchemy Lab this week I have the marvelous Katie Oman talking with me about her new book Self-Love Pledge - that guides the reader to the most important journey of all, that of loving yourself. This opens the doors to a real sense of happiness and fulfilment, and yet it's one that most people struggle with. In addition to writing Katie is a psychic worker and teacher and you will love listening in on our conversation.
2020-06-29
47 min
Holy Cow A Cubs Podcast
Holy Cow! A Cubs Podcast Episode 58: Katie Dzwierzynski
Katie Dzwierzynski is back on the podcast. We talk about the Cubs road struggles, Nicholas Castellanos, and of course Bentley the dog. It's a really fun interview.
2019-08-09
23 min
The Stokecast
54: Community, Connection, and Changing The World, with Katie Boué
Katie Boué is a Cuban-American outdoor advocate, freelance writer + social media expert, professional adventurer, climber, public speaker, former van-dweller, and public lands wonk. She is Miami-raised and traded flat Florida swamps for a life of exploring mountains, camping in the desert and playing in the snow. Boué currently lives in Salt Lake City, UT with her partner Brody Leven and her dog named Spaghetti. Katie’s love of being outside and sharing wild spaces is the focus of her work in the outdoor recreation industry. She sees opportunity for empowerment, empathy and action in every outdoo...
2019-06-19
1h 17
An American Workplace | A 'The Office' Podcast
Episode 71: 705-706 "The Sting"/"Costume Contest" | The Office Podcast
In Episode 71 of An American Workplace, Katie and Chad talk about Season 7 Episode 5 and 6 of The Office, “The Sting” and “Costume Contest”! OUR PATREON PAGE! Bonus content for as little as $1 per month! An American Workplace on iTunes P.O. Box: An American Workplace P.O. Box #852134 Mesquite, TX 75185 Show Notes “The Sting” on iTunes “Costume Contest” on iTunes 705 “The Sting” Aired October 21, 2010 Dir. by Greg Daniels Written by Mindy Kaling 706 “Costume Contest” Aired October 28, 2010 Dir...
2018-12-20
58 min
Feedback with Abby Bonell
Feedback with Abby Bonell-Katie Holland
Katie Holland-Pathfinder Award Recipient-Discussed the challenges of founding a business as a woman and the things she has done to be successful.
2018-11-20
10 min
Holy Cow A Cubs Podcast
Holy Cow! A Cubs Podcast Episode 33: Katie Dzwierzynski
Katie Dzweirzynski joins the pod to talk Wrigley Field, Cubs faces, South Carolina, and Hallmark movies. Fun conversation.
2018-09-12
14 min
An American Workplace | A 'The Office' Podcast
Episode 44: 511-512 "Moroccan Christmas"/"The Duel" | The Office Podcast
In Episode 44 of An American Workplace, Chad and Katie talk about Season 5 Episodes 11 and 12 of The Office, “Moroccan Christmas” and “The Duel”! OUR NEW PATREON PAGE! Bonus content for as little as $1 per month! An American Workplace on iTunes Show Notes “Moroccan Christmas” on iTunes “The Duel” on iTunes 511 - “Moroccan Christmas” Aired December 11, 2008 Dir. Paul Feig Written by Justin Spitzer 512 - “The Duel” Aired January 15, 2009 Dir. Dean Holland Written by Jennifer Celotta Contact Katie Twitter Facebook Chad Tw...
2018-06-14
1h 16
Open Mic On Inspired Choices Network
Awakened Bellydance ~ Open Mic Spotlight ~ Guest Katie Holland
Open Mic Spotlight Radio Show Open Mic Spotlight PRESENTS Katie Holland this weeks’ Unique Exciting Speaker with Awakened Bellydance! We will dive into all of who Katie is, all about Awakened Bellydance ~ sacred dance and spirituality, what she is creating in the world, her ideas, messages and anything else that comes forward during the conversation. Katie Holland: Dancing from the age of 3, the beautiful Katie Holland is the creator of Awakened Bellydance. This gift is the intuitive synthesis and integration of her life's studies and experiences to date. Renowned worldwide as a performance dancer and teacher, Katie began her Middle Eastern da...
2018-01-22
54 min
Open Mic on Inspired Choices Network
Awakened Bellydance ~ Open Mic Spotlight ~ Guest Katie Holland
Open Mic Spotlight Radio Show Open Mic Spotlight PRESENTS Katie Holland this weeks’ Unique Exciting Speaker with Awakened Bellydance! We will dive into all of who Katie is, all about Awakened Bellydance ~ sacred dance and spirituality, what she is creating in the world, her ideas, messages and anything else that comes forward during the conversation. Katie Holland: Dancing from the age of 3, the beautiful Katie Holland is the creator of Awakened Bellydance. This gift is the intuitive synthesis and integration of her life's studies and experiences to date. Renowned worldwide as a performance dancer and teacher, Katie began her Middle Eastern da...
2018-01-22
00 min
Open Mic On Inspired Choices Network
Awakened Bellydance ~ Open Mic Spotlight ~ Guest Katie Holland
Open Mic Spotlight Radio Show Open Mic Spotlight PRESENTS Katie Holland this weeks’ Unique Exciting Speaker with Awakened Bellydance! We will dive into all of who Katie is, all about Awakened Bellydance ~ sacred dance and spirituality, what she is creating in the world, her ideas, messages and anything else that comes forward during the conversation. Katie Holland: Dancing from the age of 3, the beautiful Katie Holland is the creator of Awakened Bellydance. This gift is the intuitive synthesis and integration of her life's studies and experiences to date. Renowned worldwide as a performance dancer and teacher, Katie began her Middle Eastern da...
2018-01-22
54 min
Brent Holland Show
Katie Callaway Hall
Katie Callaway Hall joins the program today to share her frightening true story of survival at the hands of a monster. In 1976 Katie Callaway was kidnapped and raped by Phillip Garrido. Garrido was a sexual predator and every woman's darkest nightmare...
2010-03-03
00 min