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FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsEngineering Clean: Innovations in Food Conveyance with Dorner and GarveyExplore how Dorner and Garvey, part of CMCO Conveyance Solutions, are revolutionizing food production with sanitary conveyor design, 3A-certified belts, and integrated systems that reduce contamination risks and streamline packaging—from raw materials to finished goods. A must-listen for food industry professionals.
Sponsored by:2025-07-1117 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsWater Mist’s Role in Industrial Fryer Fire SuppressionDirk Laibach, global senior product manager for water mist at Johnson Controls, covers potential fire risks associated with industrial fryers, the differences between CO2 and water mist technologies, and the role detection plays in fire suppression systems. Headshot courtesy of Laibach2025-07-0924 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsCelebrating Women in Engineering: Samara HeaggansSamara Heaggans, director of process quality engineering for Feastables, recently spoke to Food Engineering in recognition of International Women in Engineering Day, celebrated annually on June 23. Heaggans, who has taken a winding journey to and through the food industry, shares her college experience, her work at both major food companies and startups, and the importance of mentoring.2025-06-2034 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsCelebrating Women in Engineering: Shalima SreenathShalima Sreenath, head of downstream processing for Cellibre, recently spoke to Food Engineering in recognition of International Women in Engineering Day, celebrated annually on June 23. Sreenath covers her experience in the food industry, the importance of taking on high-stakes projects and developing a diverse skillset.2025-06-2019 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsMitigating Facility and Food Safety Risks with High-Performance CoatingsKey experts from Sherwin-Williams share how to mitigate risks to food safety, personnel and your bottom line with the right high-performance coatings.
Sponsored by:2025-06-0522 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsFA&M 2025 in RewindKelley Rodriguez, editor in chief of Refrigerated & Frozen Foods and content manager for FA&M, Alyse Thompson-Richards, editor in chief of FOOD ENGINEERING and Michael Levitt, editor of FOOD ENGINEERING, unpack highlights from the 26th annual Food Automation & Manufacturing Symposium and Expo.2025-04-3023 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsPreparing for FSMA 204: Food Traceability and Data StandardizationIn this episode, Sara Bratager, senior food safety and traceability scientist for the Global Food Traceability Center at the Institute of Food Technologists, talks about the Food Safety Modernization Act, the Food Traceability Rule, the importance of data standardization and how it can help with preventing and managing recalls.Sponsored by2025-02-1914 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsUncovering the Impact of Better-for-You on Baked Good ManufacturingArnaut Dubat, business development director for KPM, chats with former FE Editor Derrick Teal about how the better-for-you consumer trend continues to impact food manufacturers, particularly manufacturers of baked goods.2025-02-1143 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsHow Conveying Can Help with SustainabilityIn this episode, former editor-in-chief Derrick Teal chats with Adam Webster, vice president of innovation for ProVeyance Group, about how conveying can help food manufacturers with their sustainability goals.2025-01-2230 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine Podcasts2024 Rewind: The Latest Trends in Food ManufacturingFOOD ENGINEERING Editors Derrick Teal and Alyse Thompson-Richards and Refrigerated & Frozen Foods Editor Kelley Rodriguez discuss the major trends affecting food manufacturing in 2024 and what they expect to see in 2025. They cover food safety, automation, sustainability, mergers & acquisitions, and more.2024-12-1832 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsGood Weighing Practice and FSMA Rule 204 ComplianceJoin us as we explore the impact of good weighing with FSMA Rule 204 compliance. Discover best practices to enhance weighing accuracy, measurement data traceability, and food safety. Tune in to help your organization navigate the complexities of FSMA compliance by 2026.
Headshots courtesy of METTLER TOLEDO
Sponsored by:2024-11-2038 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsDigitizing Plant Operations for Better SOP GenerationNick Haase, co-founder of MaintainX, talks about helping manufacturers digitize and connect their plants and generating standard operating procedures, particularly when it comes to food safety and preventative maintenance.2024-11-2021 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsImproved Safety in Food Production with Mike Stegmann, Regal RexnordMike Stegmann discusses the safety and design considerations of speed reducers in food processing equipment and operations. Learn about the purpose of a speed reducer and considerations to minimize risk and maximize uptime.
Sponsored by:2024-11-1239 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsPackaging and Processing Trends for 2024 and BeyondIn this episode, Rebecca Marqez, director of custom research for PMMI, covers AI, sustainability, material recycling and composting, challenges with the workforce, and features of the upcoming edition of PACK EXPO.2024-10-2330 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsWaste Not, Want Not: Turning Food Waste into New Revenue StreamsArlin Wasserman, founder and managing director of Changing Tastes, discusses his experience in sustainability and the food industry, finding ways to transform what would be food waste into valuable new offerings, and the marketing and consumer acceptance of upcycled products.2024-09-0923 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsThree Design Considerations for Food Distribution CentersJami Lamb, a design leader for Charlotte-based design-build firm A M King, discusses three important considerations for food distribution centers, as well as work on a recent projects.2024-07-1635 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsCelebrating Women in Engineering: Jaclyn NavaraAs part of our International Women in Engineering Day series, Jaclyn Navarra, head of engineering for Kerry Ingredients, shares her college experience, her work with Kerry and advice for women just getting into the field.
Read our Women in Engineering feature.2024-06-2115 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsCelebrating Women in Engineering: Jayme LaserAs part of our International Women in Engineering Day series, Jayme Laser, director of engineering, supply chain, for Conagra Brands, shares her college experience, her work with Conagra – including on a vegetable processing facility in Minnesota – and the importance of mentoring young engineers.
Read our Women in Engineering feature.2024-06-2128 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsCelebrating Women in Engineering: Savannah StellhornAs part of our International Women in Engineering Day series, structural engineer II, Stellar, discusses her college experience, her work with design-build firm Stellar, and what she hopes to see in the future of engineering.
Read our Women in Engineering feature.2024-06-2114 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsHow Data Collection Impacts Food SafetyEric Garr, regional sales manager for Fortress Technology, which designs and manufactures metal detectors, checkweighers, x-ray and combination systems, shares his insights as to how data collection affects food safety.2024-06-1331 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsMeeting Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA) Requirements with Surface CoatingsKey experts from Sherwin-Williams Protective & Marine
share how to comply with the Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA) with the help of high-performance coatings.
Sponsored by Sherwin-Williams Protective & Marine2024-05-3023 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsDiving into Cultivated Seafood with Atlantic Fish Co.Doug Grant, co-founder and CEO of Atlantic Fish Company, covers how he became interested in cultivated seafood, hurdles for bringing these products to market and developing the North Carolina company’s first prototype.2024-05-0319 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsExploring Water Conservation StrategiesChris Dooley, chief commercial officer of Integrated Water Services, Inc., discusses water conservation strategies for food and beverage manufacturers and the evolving perception of using treated wastewater as an ingredient.2024-04-0419 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsAdvancing Food Safety InitiativesA wide-ranging interview with food safety leader Frank Yiannas explores initiatives taken on by Revol Greens and delves into common pitfalls affecting safety in food and beverage production.
Explore More Food Safety2024-02-1430 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsExploring 2024 F&B Construction TrendsMcCown Gordon's senior VP of manufacturing, Jeff Roy, sits down with FE to share his thoughts on what the industry can expect in the upcoming year.2024-01-1821 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsThermal Imaging in Food and BeverageExplore More Food Safety
Yoran Imaging’s Eran Sinbar shares information about his company and explains what thermal imaging is and its importance regarding food safety. Yoran Imaging uses thermal imaging technology in the filling and heat-sealing packaging process for inspection, production-optimizing data collection and analysis, reduce labor investments and minimize materials and product waste.2024-01-0318 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsSmall Business Creativity Meets High-Powered Innovation at Egglife FoodsDavid Kroll, Egglife Foods CEO, speaks with Samantha about the latest trends in the gluten-free/allergen-free industry and gives a full-profile of company’s high-protein egg-based tortilla products.2023-10-0426 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsPlanning for the Unexpected—Plant Maintenance and AutomationJohn Cray, principal consultant at Life Cycle Engineering with 40+ years of experience with plant maintenance. In this episode, Cray shares how to plan ahead and react to the unexpected, utilizing CMMS systems and a few horror stories.2023-07-1937 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsA New Wave of Alternative Protein Products with New Wave Foods’ Michelle WolfMichelle Wolf, co-cofounder and chief executive of New Wave Foods, describes how industry culture, innovative solutions and a thriving market paved the way for New Wave Founds to make an impact from coast to coast.2023-05-2249 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsPackaging and Food Scarcity: The Profitability in Waste ReductionIn this episode of the FOOD ENGINEERING podcast, Todd Muessling, senior manager of market development at Fresh Lock, and managing editor, Samantha Russo, discuss the role of packaging in FLW. They review packaging solutions such as; the correct sizing, labeling, sustainable material usage, best-by dates, new packaging innovations and Muessling’s perspective on the future of packaging.2023-03-2345 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsCelebrating Women in Manufacturing—Rebellyous Foods’ Rebellious LeaderRebellyous Food’s founder and CEO, Christie Lagally, speaks with FOOD ENGINEERING's managing editor, Samantha Russo, about her ambitious leap into the food manufacturing industry and her journey to success2023-01-2034 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsA Conversation on RoboticsIn this FOOD ENGINEERING podcast, FE Editor-in-Chief Derrick Teal talks to TM Robotics’ Executive Vice President Ryan Guthrie about all things robotics, particularly their impact on automation and food safety. The sound quality isn’t perfect for this one. While it was Ryan at the airport, Derrick sounds like he’s the one walking down the jet bridge boarding a flight. We did the best we could to clean it up, but our apologies for the quality.2023-01-1628 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsGeorgia Center of Innovation Supporting Businesses of Any SizeChris Chammoun, the Director of Agricultural Technology (AgTech) at the Center of Innovation joins Derrick Teal, editor-in-chief in discussing how Georgia’s Center of Innovation feeds the world, creates a home in retail for grandma’s recipes, dissects and explains the state’s agricultural industry, its impacts and much more.2022-12-0133 min
elliTek's Automation Know-HowIndustrial Automation - It Doesn't Have To... Be UnfamiliarSend us a textAre you ready for some GOOD news?!? Unless you've had your head in the sand, you've heard of elliTek's new Automation Partner, so this company shouldn't be unfamiliar to you.Over the past many months, we have been working closely with a fantastic company. It's a huge, behemoth company. It's the largest industrial manufacturing company globally and one in which elliTek is extremely privileged to partner. This is the official announcement that elliTek is now an authorized distributor for Siemens Digital Industries and Controls products!Ou...2022-07-1235 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsA&Es look at labor, supply chain and alternate proteinFOOD ENGINEERING’s Senior Technical Editor Wayne Labs discusses labor and supply chain issues plus the rise of vertical farming and alternate protein facilities with Tyler Cundiff, president, Food & Beverage Group at Gray, Inc. and David Ziskind, director of engineering for global engineering firm Black & Veatch’s NextGen Ag team.2022-06-0836 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsAlternative Protein Packaging and SustainabilityFOOD ENGINEERING’s Senior Editor, Sharon Spielman, sits down with Marcos Leta, founder of plant-based meat brand Future Farm, to discuss how alternative protein food processors can select and implement packaging for their products as well as overcome challenges they face in the market.2022-05-2011 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsAll things (TOMRA) Food with Michel PicandetMichel Picandet, Head of TOMRA Food, touches on topics like food safety and transformation. He talks about his daily routine, favorite dishes, and what he learned in China. But most of all: he gives you a unique insight into the mission he sees for TOMRA Food in the world around us. Be inspired and inspire in return!
SPONSORED BY: TOMRA Food2022-04-2533 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsTyson’s Case for Case-Ready MeatsOn this episode of the FOOD ENGINEERING Podcast, Tyson’s Nate Hodne and Brady Welu detail the company’s latest and largest case-ready meats facility in Eagle Mountain, Utah, and how the plant efficiently addresses demand for case-ready beef and pork through cutting-edge automation, engineering and design.2022-04-2019 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsThe Details of DTC Distribution for Food ProcessorsOn this episode of the FOOD ENGINEERING
Podcast, Brendan Duttry from direct-to-consumer (DTC) bakery subscription brand Wildgrain joins us to discuss how food processors—especially smaller startups—can start their own DTC program, and what the benefits and challenges are to distributing your products via e-commerce.2022-03-0729 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsMaking the Case for Track and TraceEric Henefield, director of traceability business at Omron, sits down with Editor-in-Chief Michael Costa to talk about how track-and-trace technology can help food processors forecast ingredients and maintain accurate production schedules in 2022, while improving supply chain management overall.2022-02-0420 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsBlockchain’s Leap Forward in 2022Kevin Otto, senior director of community engagement at GS1 US, joins the FOOD ENGINEERING podcast to discuss the future of blockchain for food processors in 2022, while taking a look back at how blockchain has evolved the past decade into a must-have traceability option for operators.2022-01-1120 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsStrategies for Choosing a System IntegratorJessica Bennett, operations manager at Bachelor Controls, sits down with Editor-in-Chief Michael Costa to discuss strategies for choosing a system integrator to maximize an operation’s automation and technology, and how system integrators can be vital assets to growing processors looking to scale up production.2021-12-1712 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsHow pet food companies can fight food waste with upcycled ingredientsMary Emma Young, senior director of communications and strategic planning at The Pet Food Institute (PFI) joins Editor-in-Chief Michael Costa to discuss the use of upcycled ingredients and “ugly” produce in pet food formulations as a way to help fight food waste.2021-11-0415 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsFood Defense: Past and PresentFOOD ENGINEERING Editor-in-Chief Michael Costa sits down with Earl Arnold, global manager, food defense/FSMA at AIB International, to discuss the history of food defense in the U.S., and what current checks processors need to know if they use imported ingredients to comply with FDA regulations.2021-10-1322 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsOversized Compressed Air Systems: A widespread problemFar too many compressed air systems operate below 50% system capacity. This podcast episode explores the issues with an oversized system, ways to identify if your system is operating below system capacity, and options to address the problem.
Sponsored by Kaeser Compressors, Inc.2021-09-0929 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsDust Hazards when Manufacturing Food ProductsWhen manufacturing food products, dust is produced that poses three types of dangers - worker health problems, product cross-contamination and combustible dust explosions. This podcast will explain these hazards, the agencies that regulate them, and how facilities can best mitigate the risks to their employees and facility.
Sponsored by Camfil Air Pollution Control2021-09-0918 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsThe trends shaping the future of food and beverageFood Engineering editor-in-chief Casey Laughman speaks with Ellen Davis, Executive Vice President of Industry Engagement, Consumer Brands Association, on the consumer trends shaping the future of the food and beverage industry.2021-08-3121 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsThe Application of AI TechnologiesIn the August episode of the Food Engineering podcast, Editor-in-Chief Casey Laughman discusses the application of AI technologies with The Morning Star Company’s Saul Alarcon (L) and Javier Garrido.2021-08-1324 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsWhat You Need to Know About Industry 4.0Industry 4.0 is dramatically changing the way food and beverage manufacturing plants are managed. In this podcast, we explore the DNA of Industry 4.0, its potential for our enterprises, and even some of the pitfalls that may lie ahead.
Sponsored by: Hixson Architecture & Engineering2021-07-2016 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsAre you down with OEE?In the July episode of the Food Engineering Podcast, Anthony Doss, VP of Engineering, Poultry, for Tyson Foods, shares insights on how to most effectively measure, apply and learn from OEE to ensure you’re hitting your performance goals.
Sponsored by: Advanced Technology Services, Inc. (ATS)2021-07-0620 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsUnderstanding Hygienic DesignIn the June episode of the Food Engineering podcast, Duane Grassmann, corporate hygienist, Nestlé USA and Canada, shares insights on best practices in hygienic design, understanding how to evaluate your facility’s needs and implementing a process to ensure cleaning, sanitation, food safety and employee safety are all manageable goals.
Sponsored by: Watson-Marlow Technology Group2021-06-0320 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsMeeting the Challenges of an Evolving Food IndustryMark DiMaggio discusses the food production sector’s shifting landscape, pandemic challenges and Messer’s response to them. He details new markets, Messer innovations and how the company helps customers solve their production challenges.
Sponsored by: Messer Americas2021-05-2633 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsOptimizing food freezing, chilling, and manufacturing with nitrogen and CO2Listeners will learn how using nitrogen and carbon dioxide improves food manufacturing processes and product quality. The podcast will explore the benefits of cryogenics, and factors involved in choosing between them. Food processors will gain a new perspective on improving their company’s efficiency and output...
Sponsored by: Air Products2021-05-1331 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsIntegrating islands of automationIf you have old equipment, there is hope that you can keep what works and modernize it by pulling worthwhile information from it with instrumentation and controls.2021-05-0727 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsProducing pet food can be a risky businessProducing pet food can be difficult, but even more challenging is recovering from a safety recall. TOMRA advanced its technology into pet food - bringing a whole new safety level and peace-of-mind to the industry. This podcast looks at how technology can help you get the best possible product.
Sponsored by: TOMRA2021-04-2320 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsA New Era in Hygienic Conveyor DesignSideDrive’s Kevin Mauger explains how food-safe, side drive belt technology enables the most flexible, hygienic spiral and long run conveyors available for the food industry.
Sponsored by: SideDrive2021-04-1430 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsLessons LearnedIn the April episode of the Food Engineering podcast, Editor-in-Chief Casey Laughman speaks with Art Sebastiano, CIO, Ken's Foods, on applying lessons from other industries as part of a digitalization strategy.2021-04-1319 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsHVAC Options for a Post-Pandemic PlantCOVID-19 has had a significant impact on the selection of HVAC systems and filtration options. “HVAC Options for a Post-Pandemic Plant,” a podcast from Hixson’s Food Plant of the Future series, looks at the latest HVAC options that may minimize viral spread and protect employees.
Sponsored by: Hixson Architecture & Engineering2021-03-1325 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsSunOpta’s Oatbase expansion right-sized for now and future needsSunOpta expanded its Alexandria, Minn. facility to meet rising demand for oatbase, which the company produces for use in oat milk. In the March episode of the Food Engineering podcast, editor-in-chief Casey Laughman discusses SunOpta’s expansion and automation project with Bryan Clark, VP, R&D Plant Based Food and Beverages, SunOpta.2021-03-1222 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsThe rise of alternative proteinThe alternative protein market continues to grow, with both start-ups and legacy companies looking for ways to claim a stake. In this installment of the Food Engineering podcast series, Editor-in-Chief Casey Laughman speaks with Kristie Middleton, VP of Business Development, Rebellyous Foods, to discuss how the market has grown and where it’s going.2021-01-2816 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsThe role of AI and robotics in pet food processingAutomation, artificial intelligence and robotics are becoming a staple of food and beverage processing, and the pet food market is no different. In this installment of the Food Engineering podcast series, Editor-in-Chief Casey Laughman speaks with Tyler Cundiff, President, Food and Beverage Market, Gray, and Greg Powers, VP of Solution Architecture, Gray Solutions, to discuss how pet food processors are adopting these technologies.2021-01-0723 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsHow produce packaging is responding to consumer trendsThe ongoing COVID-19 pandemic has caused dramatic shifts in consumer behavior, but that doesn’t mean consumers are abandoning their desire for information about sustainability, quality and freshness, especially when it comes to produce. Food Engineering Editor-in-Chief Casey Laughman and Georgia-Pacific’s Liz Walsh, Director of Insights and Innovation, Packaging and Cellulose, discuss how consumer trends are driving retail packaging decisions.2020-10-2711 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsThe Secret to F&B Manufacturing Agility in a Changing WorldYou know that food and beverage manufacturers must react with lightning speed to consumer demands for new experiences, healthier products, and most recently, huge fluctuations in demand due to world challenges. Digitalization is the secret to overcome these demand challenges and prepare for future opportunities. Davide Picciotto, Siemens Digital Enterprise Industry Director for CP&R, discusses how digital threads enable the true agile enterprise in ways never imaginable before.
Sponsored by: Siemens Digital Industries2020-07-2414 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsReconfiguring Food Facilities in Response to COVID-19Speaker: Brian King, Owner and President of A M KingFood processing and distribution operations are being severely impacted by COVID-19. Facilities are suspending operations to protect employees while the food chain is being jeopardized. Companies must develop new strategies for operating at full production while ensuring the health and safety of their workforces.
Sponsored by: A M King2020-05-0830 min
FOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsBurns & McDonald executives discuss the distinctions of Food Safety and Food DefenseBurns & McDonnell project manager RJ Hope and senior project engineer Justin Hamilton discuss the distinctions between Food Safety and Food Defense as well as the implications for food manufacturers of the Food Safety Modernization Act.2014-02-0310 minFOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsBe Proactive in Protecting Your Brand and Food Supply ChainThe Food Defense Strategy Exchange (FDSE) is a forum for food defense professionals to interact and share their knowledge and experiences. At the most recent FDSE, a poll of attendees revealed that approximately two-thirds were either re-evaluating their existing food defense plan, or implementing new food defense plans. In this podcast, Don Hsieh, Director of Commercial and Industrial Marketing at Tyco Integrated Security, discusses this topic and other findings from the exchange, and offers some best practices to proactively protect a company’s brand from food adulteration.2013-06-0626 minFOOD ENGINEERING Magazine PodcastsCorporate Sustainability Reporting for the Food and Beverage IndustryBurns & McDonnell project manager RJ Hope and senior project engineer Justin Hamilton discuss the distinctions between Food Safety and Food Defense as well as the implications for food manufacturers of the Food Safety Modernization Act.
Burns & McDonnell Global Reporting Initiative (GRI)-certified corporate sustainability reporting (CSR) specialists discuss:
What is a CSR?
What is the GRI and the Food Processing Sector Supplement?
Why are companies producing CSRs?
What are latest CSR trends?
More at www.burnsmcd.com/csr.2012-10-1211 min