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Joanne Lockwood is joined by workplace inclusion specialist Toby Mildon to explore his path from technology transformation into equality, diversity and inclusion work, and what it takes to make EDI feel practical rather than intimidating.

They unpack why so many leaders feel anxious about “getting it wrong”, how that fear can create inaction, and what helps: clearer organisational purpose, emotional connection to the “why”, and a focus on behaviour change over simply knowing the right facts. Along the way they challenge siloed approaches to diversity, discuss bias and representation, and reflect on how privilege and the myth of meritocracy show up in workplaces and wider society.

The conversation moves into what effective, measurable inclusion looks like in practice. Toby shares how organisations can connect inclusion to commercial outcomes such as retention and attrition costs, and why culture, psychological safety and a credible employee value proposition matter more than surface-level perks. They close by looking at shifting expectations of work and values alignment, and what inclusive culture needs to deliver for people to feel safe, respected and able to belong.